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« Reply #17280 on: April 23, 2018, 05:56:01 PM »
Macron: "Mr. Presiden we certainly plantud some nice trees"
Trump: "Now to water them with liberal tears and Russian piss"


https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/988538208324595712
The press trying to scream at Trump and Trump screaming back while a helicopter is idling in the background will never get old.
Also, I don't think he has responded to the Waffle shooting or the terrorist car attack from earlier today.

Just imagine if 9/11 had happened on Trump's watch.

Trump would be busy golfing, planting trees, holding a rally or speech or whatever he's occupied with. Send out a bunch of angry unrelated tweets and sign some EO's, while CNN would've had a split screen with the Twin Towers on fire and Cohen's office being raided and Fox News a piece about Panda's and the flammability of Hillary's email. He would've not went there to survey the site like W. did but instead he would've send out a Tweet, something similar to: "Great Americans are cleaning up the mess left behind at Ground Zero. I told you the building was constructed no good. THANK YOU EVERYONE"
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« Reply #17281 on: April 23, 2018, 06:11:42 PM »

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/988536396506914816

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Expect the trump tweet tomorrow.

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« Reply #17282 on: April 23, 2018, 06:22:51 PM »
Now that I think of it. Trump post 9/11 also wouldn't have gone after Afghanistan.

Instead, he would've blamed the pilots of doing a poor job, called for carrying guns on airplanes and try to shift the blame to Bill Clinton for missing Bin Laden when he had the chance.
"Bill had good aim with the interns but not with the terrorists. Totally missed OBL. Pilots weren't safe, wouldn't have happened with GUNS on PLANES"
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« Reply #17283 on: April 23, 2018, 06:35:41 PM »
Trump in 2000 was a pretty different politician than Trump in 2016, he would have a very different set of staffers/cabinet members/etc. around him then compared to now

I could see Colin Powell being in that administration and having far more influence than he had in the W. Bush administration for example, and without the Cheney/Rumsfeld axis.

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« Reply #17284 on: April 23, 2018, 06:38:15 PM »
He ran for the Reform Party nomination before bailing out:
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The irony in the possible Buchanan-Trump matchup is that both men left the Republican Party to get away from the likes of each other. Buchanan says he left because the party had lost its way on core principles, such as the abortion issue.

Trump says he quit because "the Republicans are just too crazy right," a comment that he could easily have been aiming at the Buchananites, judging from some of Trump's comments about the conservative commentator. Speaking Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," he called Buchanan a "Hitler lover," a reference to Buchanan's new book stating that Hitler posed no real threat to the United States at the start of World War II.
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Before opting for Ross Perot's Reform Party, Trump was known as a Republican with socially liberal but economically conservative views.

He backs abortion rights - a stark contrast to his Reform Party opponent Pat Buchanan - tax cuts and universal health care.

He supports free trade - but only with the US getting tough with countries that refuse to open their markets.

"Japan for many years has ripped off the United States, big league," he once said. "England has been a terrific partner.

"France has been a terrible partner, a terrible team player."

While he had said he broadly favoured tax cuts, he also proposed a surtax on every person and trust valued over $10m, the proceeds of which would go to paying the national debt.

He had said that would mean he would have to stump up some $700m but economists say his figures didn't add up.

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The developer's aides, razor sharp in black suits and sunglasses, handed out samples of Trump 2000 hand sanitizer -- a wink to the candidate's reluctance to shake hands

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"So the Reform Party now includes a Klansman—Mr. Duke, a Neo-Nazi—Mr. Buchanan, and a Communist—Ms. Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep." - Donald Trump withdrawing from the race, endorsing McCain

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« Reply #17285 on: April 23, 2018, 06:38:35 PM »
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/mcmaster-and-commander
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Initially, Pollack said, McMaster gave Trump “the benefit of the doubt,” assuming that he could understand complicated issues. Every day, McMaster subjected Trump to detailed briefings. According to Pollack, the President just sat there. “He would look like he was interested,” Pollack said. “He was probably trying to imagine how many times H.R. has to shave his head every day, while H.R. is going on and on about the complexities of Russia policy.” Only later, Pollack said, did McMaster realize that “the guy wasn’t absorbing a fucking thing he said!”

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« Reply #17286 on: April 23, 2018, 06:43:41 PM »
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Soon thereafter, the actual Trump floated possible running mates and members of his presidential cabinet during a November 28 episode of Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. He identified Senator John McCain, a Republican presidential candidate, as a possible Secretary of Defense. Trump said he would consider Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel for Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and mentioned retired General Colin Powell as a possible Secretary of State. He praised General Electric CEO Jack Welch, and discussed him as either Secretary of Treasury or running mate. He again mentioned Oprah Winfrey as a possible running mate.
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okay, so he wasn't that different of a politician

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« Reply #17287 on: April 23, 2018, 06:47:53 PM »
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In discussing his campaign strategy with The Los Angeles Times, Trump proclaimed, "the only strategy is, I'll be on television a lot." ... Trump pointed to the spike in ratings each television network received whenever he appeared on air. He admitted, "whether or not TV ratings can transfer into votes is an interesting question." The Times characterized Trump's campaign as "Political Science 101 on how far politics is devolving into pure entertainment."
He warned us.

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« Reply #17288 on: April 23, 2018, 06:49:44 PM »
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Soon thereafter, the actual Trump floated possible running mates and members of his presidential cabinet during a November 28 episode of Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. He identified Senator John McCain, a Republican presidential candidate, as a possible Secretary of Defense. Trump said he would consider Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel for Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and mentioned retired General Colin Powell as a possible Secretary of State. He praised General Electric CEO Jack Welch, and discussed him as either Secretary of Treasury or running mate. He again mentioned Oprah Winfrey as a possible running mate.
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okay, so he wasn't that different of a politician

And the more things change, the more they also stay the same  :doge

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« Reply #17289 on: April 23, 2018, 06:52:41 PM »
he said trans people are mentally ill and that lesbians are all fat ugly monsters

Throw in a distaste for blacks at the top of that list and you basically just described what every other downtown bar in America is looking for on an employment application.


Something tells me Milos will be just fine finding another place to grab a drink....As long as he doesn't bring his husband with him.


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« Reply #17290 on: April 23, 2018, 07:08:19 PM »
Rand Paul caved on confirming Pompeo.

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« Reply #17291 on: April 23, 2018, 07:14:59 PM »
Rand Paul caved on confirming Pompeo.

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« Reply #17292 on: April 23, 2018, 11:08:12 PM »

https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/988532995656122368

Most amount of physical labor this dude probably has done in a minute.

Why are Melania and that other lady striking such weird ass poses?
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« Reply #17293 on: April 24, 2018, 01:07:52 AM »

https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/988532995656122368

Most amount of physical labor this dude probably has done in a minute.

these people do weird sex stuff together, you can tell just by looking

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« Reply #17294 on: April 24, 2018, 04:07:36 AM »
Rand Paul caved on confirming Pompeo.

This is one of the least surprising things ever.

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« Reply #17295 on: April 24, 2018, 09:35:28 AM »

https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/988532995656122368

Most amount of physical labor this dude probably has done in a minute.

Why are Melania and that other lady striking such weird ass poses?

It looks like a badly photoshopped image from The Onion.
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« Reply #17296 on: April 24, 2018, 03:57:24 PM »
Trump threw his nominee for the Veterans Affairs under the bus.

https://twitter.com/RealMAGASteve/status/988859970350473216

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« Reply #17297 on: April 24, 2018, 03:59:19 PM »
It looks like a picture taken in motion, not posed, you fucking weirdos

It also looks like it was processed as HDR or something.

IMO it’s a bizarre photo.

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« Reply #17299 on: April 24, 2018, 05:32:02 PM »
 :doge

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« Reply #17300 on: April 24, 2018, 05:33:18 PM »


digital retailer gamergate might be involved too i heard


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« Reply #17302 on: April 24, 2018, 06:18:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/988900886025068544

The weirdest part is not that Trump is touchy feely with macron (well that is weird) but that Macron is returning the favor.

These two are just maximum cringe.  :doge
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« Reply #17303 on: April 24, 2018, 06:19:49 PM »
so gay that they should both start posting here
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« Reply #17307 on: April 24, 2018, 08:57:12 PM »
Joy Ann Reid acting like someone hacked and inserted blog posts when she had linked to those posts from her Twitter.

I feel like she could've plowed through with just an acknowledgement and apology, but I don't watch cable news (unless Sam Nunberg's flipping out) and have no idea how any of that works.

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« Reply #17308 on: April 24, 2018, 09:05:35 PM »
the hacking of the Wayback Machine's archive of her blog is so serious that she contacted law enforcement!
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In December I learned that an unknown, external party accessed and manipulated material from my now-defunct blog, The Reid Report, to include offensive and hateful references that are fabricated and run counter to my personal beliefs and ideology.

I began working with a cyber-security expert who first identified the unauthorized activity, and we notified federal law enforcement officials of the breach. The manipulated material seems to be part of an effort to taint my character with false information by distorting a blog that ended a decade ago.

Now that the site has been compromised I can state unequivocally that it does not represent the original entries. I hope that whoever corrupted the site recognizes the pain they have caused, not just to me, but to my family and communities that I care deeply about: LGBTQ, immigrants, people of color and other marginalized groups.

Gamergate's deep pockets even got to the Wayback Machine to fabricate an explanation: http://blog.archive.org/2018/04/24/addressing-recent-claims-of-manipulated-blog-posts-in-the-wayback-machine/
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This past December, Reid’s lawyers contacted us, asking to have archives of the blog (blog.reidreport.com) taken down, stating that “fraudulent” posts were “inserted into legitimate content” in our archives of the blog. Her attorneys stated that they didn’t know if the alleged insertion happened on the original site or with our archives (the point at which the manipulation is to have occurred, according to Reid, is still unclear to us).

When we reviewed the archives, we found nothing to indicate tampering or hacking of the Wayback Machine versions. At least some of the examples of allegedly fraudulent posts provided to us had been archived at different dates and by different entities.

We let Reid’s lawyers know that the information provided was not sufficient for us to verify claims of manipulation. Consequently, and due to Reid’s being a journalist (a very high-profile one, at that) and the journalistic nature of the blog archives, we declined to take down the archives. We were clear that we would welcome and consider any further information that they could provide us to support their claims.

At some point after our correspondence, a robots.txt exclusion request specific to the Wayback Machine was placed on the live blog. That request was automatically recognized and processed by the Wayback Machine and the blog archives were excluded, unbeknownst to us (the process is fully automated). The robots.txt exclusion from the web archive remains automatically in effect due to the presence of the request on the live blog. Also, the blog URL which previously pointed to an msnbc.com page now points to a generic parked page.

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« Reply #17309 on: April 24, 2018, 09:15:41 PM »
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Over the past couple of years, I have become a huge fan of Joy Reid on MSNBC, especially her outstanding commentary on Trump and his toadies in the GOP. So this news of her homophobic blog posts is disturbing, to say the least. That said, no one is perfect and hopefully she's learned her lesson. I also don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that she was hacked, or at the very least, there is some sort of orchestrated attempt on the right to discredit her. They did a great job on Al Franken, don't forget.
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« Reply #17310 on: April 24, 2018, 09:18:02 PM »
What kind of homophobic stuff did she say?

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« Reply #17311 on: April 24, 2018, 09:32:24 PM »
Gonna be an awkward convo by the water cooler with Rachel Maddow

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« Reply #17312 on: April 24, 2018, 09:34:32 PM »
What kind of homophobic stuff did she say?
it's more kind of standard social conservatism than crazy homophobia that i usually find in comment sections, but Reid also has a history of taking shots at people on twitter/etc. using gay terms as insults/slurs against a person, and she had a number of twitter rants about Chelsea Manning's problem being because she's trans or whatever

from: https://www.mediaite.com/online/exclusive-joy-reid-claims-newly-discovered-homophobic-posts-from-her-blog-were-fabricated/
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“Some people use the [word] ‘immoral’ when they really mean ‘distasteful’ — I think a lot of heterosexuals, especially men, find the idea of homosexual sex to be … well … gross, and they lump it in with immorality,” wrote the author in a post dated to 2007. “And then there are the concerns that adult gay men tend to be attracted to very young, post-pubescent types, bringing them ‘into the lifestyle’ in a way that many people consider to be immoral.”

The author continued by using the same argument that conservatives deploy against transgender activists today: “Ditto with gay rights groups that seek to organize very young, impressionable teens who may have an inclination that they are gay.”

The author also casually wrote about the idea of manipulating genes to ensure that children would “not be gay.”
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The author also repeatedly advocated against gay marriage on the site by criticizing liberals deemed too far left on the issue. Cable news host Rachel Maddow, who is openly gay and now works with Reid at MSNBC, was a recurring target in these Reid Report posts.

“[Rick] Warren’s views on gays are out of the mainstream. Perhaps Rachel Maddow… and those at the left-most end of political spectrum wish it were so, but it is not,” the author wrote in a post arguing against Democrats who were pushing for gay marriage to be part of the party’s platform.

The author cited, in different post, a “terrific” article from Bob Ostertag — described as a “pretty out there gay man” — in which he said, “How is that queers became the odd ones out at such a momentous turning point in history? By pushing an agenda of stupid issues like gay marriage.”

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« Reply #17313 on: April 24, 2018, 09:36:57 PM »
I'm not paying attention to this story because anyone who thinks this is homophobic content doesn't know any gay people.

Yeah, since most of those headlines can be read as similar to stuff gay people will joke about with each other, it's probably safe to just assume that's the spirit in which she wrote them, there's nothing worse in the body text, and that she's lying about being hacked just for shits and giggles.

That's how these things usually play out.


Honestly, there's been such a shift on attitudes towards LGBT people that this seems like one of the easiest spots where someone could say "I used to carry some prejudices that I hadn't really thought about, I'm different now thanks to listening to these people, I'm sorry and I'll keep trying to be better blah blah blah."

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« Reply #17314 on: April 24, 2018, 09:39:27 PM »
She sounds somewhat socially conservative

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« Reply #17315 on: April 24, 2018, 09:41:42 PM »
this is the kind of anti-homosexualist agenda comments i prefer :lawd
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Not a fan of Joy Ried at all by she has honest and valid thoughts here. 99% of US citizens have no urge what so ever to watch one man insert his penis into another man's rectum canal to insert sperm. It goes completely against natural law and is is ingrained into the human psychic response to be disgusted at the very thought. It is a small minority in the deviant MSM and activist that make appear to be different. This minority with their media backing are the ones who are extremely bigoted against natural law.
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Just to make it clear...it is not 'homophobic' to disagree with homosexuality, to think it not normal and to be uneasy at the sight of two men or two women kissing or engaging in other sexual acts.

To call a heterosexual a homophobe just because they don't see homosexuality as normal would mean homosexuals would be heterophobic because heterosexuality is not seen as normal to them.

Just to recap what heterosexuals think is normal...
--Males are natually attracted to females and vice versa
--Masculinity attracts femininity and vice versa
--The male reproductive system was designed to reproduce with the female reproductive system and vice vesa
--It is physically impossible for male reproductive systems to reproduce with a male digestive system.
--Marriages that consist of one male and one female are the best models for producing and raising children (they actually are).

What are we talking about anyway? Homosexuals of any variety make up 2-3% of society. That is about the same percentage of chronic alcoholics or drug abusers.

2-3% is not a big enough percentage to overturn the overall normalcy of society by declaring it hateful and homophobic just because it won't/can't go along with the anti-hetero propaganda.

None of this is to say that it is okay to verbally, mentally or physically abuse homosexuals. It's not--just as it is not okay to verbally, mentally or physically abuse heterosexuals.

The people who form the social media mobs responding to every person who voices support for traditional marriage, heterosexual relationships, religious beliefs or otherwise conservative values would to well to understand that fact.

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« Reply #17316 on: April 24, 2018, 09:44:28 PM »
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Not a fan of Joy Ried at all by she has honest and valid thoughts here. 99% of US citizens have no urge what so ever to watch one man insert his penis into another man's rectum canal to insert sperm. It goes completely against natural law and is is ingrained into the human psychic response to be disgusted at the very thought. It is a small minority in the deviant MSM and activist that make appear to be different. This minority with their media backing are the ones who are extremely bigoted against natural law.

Robert P. George wylin' out in the comments.

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« Reply #17317 on: April 24, 2018, 09:48:38 PM »
gays are so ignorant, no matter how many times they insert sperm in their rectum canal, natural law will never let them get pregnant, yet they keep trying lol

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« Reply #17318 on: April 24, 2018, 09:49:53 PM »
No surprise that joy ann Reid is a piece of shit.

Mostly I find it humorous that she feels it’s appropriate to call a Bernie Sanders (YumGod) a racist, but not to call herself a homophobe.

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« Reply #17319 on: April 24, 2018, 09:52:38 PM »
What a... *drumroll* milkshake duck

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« Reply #17320 on: April 24, 2018, 09:54:18 PM »
speaking of racist grandpa: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/23/bernie-sanders-to-unveil-plan-to-guarantee-every-american-a-job/
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will announce a plan for the federal government to guarantee a job paying $15 an hour and health-care benefits to every American worker “who wants or needs one,” embracing the kind of large-scale government works project that Democrats have shied away from in recent decades.

Sanders's jobs guarantee would fund hundreds of projects throughout the United States aimed at addressing priorities such as infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals. Under the job guarantee, every American would be entitled to a job under one of these projects or receive job training to be able to do so, according to an early draft of the proposal.

A representative from Sanders's office said they had not yet done a cost estimate for the plan or decided how it would be funded, saying they were still crafting the proposal.

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« Reply #17321 on: April 24, 2018, 09:55:54 PM »
Shosta, when I said it was safe to assume there wasn't anything to this except the headlines in that one collage, that was actually sarcasm.
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« Reply #17322 on: April 24, 2018, 09:58:46 PM »
speaking of racist grandpa: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/23/bernie-sanders-to-unveil-plan-to-guarantee-every-american-a-job/
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will announce a plan for the federal government to guarantee a job paying $15 an hour and health-care benefits to every American worker “who wants or needs one,” embracing the kind of large-scale government works project that Democrats have shied away from in recent decades.

Sanders's jobs guarantee would fund hundreds of projects throughout the United States aimed at addressing priorities such as infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals. Under the job guarantee, every American would be entitled to a job under one of these projects or receive job training to be able to do so, according to an early draft of the proposal.

A representative from Sanders's office said they had not yet done a cost estimate for the plan or decided how it would be funded, saying they were still crafting the proposal.

work  :holeup :hhh
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« Reply #17323 on: April 24, 2018, 10:00:33 PM »
you can also have job training :bolo

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« Reply #17324 on: April 24, 2018, 10:11:32 PM »
Honestly, when things like the Joy Reid issue happens, I'm more amused by the consistent phenomena where righties and right wing sites fall all over themselves to suddenly 180 into an ultra-sensitive moral panic about acts of discrimination and issues of intersectionality.


It's just always so predictable and :neogaf


(for instance it is currently the number two story on Breitbart, it was the top entertainment story a couple hours ago on Foxnews.com, and the top story on Drudge)

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« Reply #17325 on: April 24, 2018, 10:15:43 PM »
The stuff isn't that bad. She wasn't going Farrakhan or anything.

But she talks about how she's squicked by the idea of gay sex, assumes that all straight people are equally squicked, defends people who find homosexuality immoral, makes gay "jokes" that only work if "haha he's gay!" is inherently funny, said the Democrats should avoid gay marriage or open military service for political reasons, brings up the perceived connection between homophobia and pedophilia, etc. Taken as a whole it paints a picture of someone who was pretty uncomfortable with the movement towards LGBT acceptance, though not virulent about it.

Which describes a lot of contemporary Democrats! She was probably to the right of the median Dem on this at the time (Jon Stewart was telling "chick with dick" jokes while Bush was president), but not that far out and lots of people who are outspoken on the topic now are just lucky that their comments from 10-15 years ago weren't all archived. I think the comments were pretty crappy, but I also don't think they're disqualifying for having a platform later but man wouldn't it be better to just acknowledge them, say you've grown as a person, and not fake a hacking conspiracy?

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« Reply #17326 on: April 24, 2018, 10:17:31 PM »
FACT CHECK: the top story on brietbart is bernie sanders trying to eat a microphone like it's an ice cream cone the dumb commie:

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« Reply #17327 on: April 24, 2018, 10:19:22 PM »
Hard for me to get worked up about this like this. In my younger years I was explicitly actually-homophobic (plus many other things) and now I'm one of the actual not-joking dick suckers on this forum plus an unironic Social Studies Warrior. People can change :yeshrug

Also nowadays some of the shit I say is more outrageous than the stuff in those headline clips (which is the the max extent I'm willing to be aware of this whateversy) :trumps
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« Reply #17328 on: April 24, 2018, 10:21:57 PM »
Since she's a cable news pundit I just sort of assume she maintains a high moral dudgeon, and I can see how copping to shitposting might damage that brand, but c'mon.

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« Reply #17329 on: April 24, 2018, 10:23:51 PM »
oh yeah these are the comments :mouf
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Trump Train aka Honey Badger  Leviticus Falwell ✓ᴾʳᵒ ²ᴬ • 5 hours ago
I think Joy is really Joey so why would IT be so offended when IT looks like a man.... I wonder if IT was competing with mooch for some action with Barack.
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SirGladiator • 3 hours ago
I don't understand what was supposed to be 'phobic' of homosexuals in her posts? I saw nothing that suggested she was afraid of them, only that she was grossed out by them. Disliking the gay lifestyle or the gay agenda has nothing to do with fear of homosexuals, it's just basic morals and decency and sanity. I saw nothing she said that was wrong, probably most people agree with just about all of it.
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Bwana  Really Though • 2 hours ago
F--k off faggoat. Soros sucking tool.
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Barack Milhaus Wuffifus  Jon • 3 hours ago
You are a George Soros-paid troll. Admit it.
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Jenna María Domínguez  Mark Belk • 2 hours ago
What is wrong with racism and misogyny?
They're the hallmarks of
Communist $h1tbags who only PRETEND to be Social Studies Warriors but are truly haters of life, Humanity and everything created by God.
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LINER011  My2 Cents • 3 hours ago
Now it will be claimed that blacks cannot be homophobic because they are institutionally disadvantaged.
But before the gay version of Al Sharpton comes after Joy, for a shake-down, can we have the animal rights justice warriors demand big donations from the gay groups, for cruelty to hamsters?
Yes, a leftist civil war will be fun to watch.
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Pattée Cross ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ🇺🇸✝🇺🇸  Leon Phelps • 3 hours ago
Joyless Reid should eschew her hairline-eating weaves and just grow the ‘fro! I mean REALLY! Her forehead now begins at the crown of her Lyin’ Leftist head!!!
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Leon Phelps  God Bless America • 5 hours ago
Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is "conservative" blogs like Breitbart just being Communists-Lite and acting like leftist Democrats 5 years ago instead of actually conservative.

5 years from now, Breitbart will be stalking us to try to shut us down on the internet for thinking there are only 2 genders.
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thanks Nola for looking out for ol benji
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« Reply #17330 on: April 24, 2018, 10:26:15 PM »
The actual worst part is that she’s making up some bullshit hacker story.

Edit: also why do conservatives always have to use faux medical terminology to discuss gay sex. A lot of the time the phrasing is really funny to me. “It’s not a part of the Au naturale order to take one’s turgid penile tissue and insert it into the defacatory orifice of another male human all the way until the scrotal tissues press firmly against the buttocks and surrounding regions and thrust the semenal fluids into the rectum canal to induce pregnancy within a male human”.

You ain’t Bill Nye, nilla. It’s fine to just “can’t get knocked up by putting your d in his b fekkit!”
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« Reply #17331 on: April 24, 2018, 10:32:25 PM »
The stuff isn't that bad. She wasn't going Farrakhan or anything.

But she talks about how she's squicked by the idea of gay sex, assumes that all straight people are equally squicked, defends people who find homosexuality immoral, makes gay "jokes" that only work if "haha he's gay!" is inherently funny, said the Democrats should avoid gay marriage or open military service for political reasons, brings up the perceived connection between homophobia and pedophilia, etc. Taken as a whole it paints a picture of someone who was pretty uncomfortable with the movement towards LGBT acceptance, though not virulent about it.

Which describes a lot of contemporary Democrats! She was probably to the right of the median Dem on this at the time (Jon Stewart was telling "chick with dick" jokes while Bush was president), but not that far out and lots of people who are outspoken on the topic now are just lucky that their comments from 10-15 years ago weren't all archived. I think the comments were pretty crappy, but I also don't think they're disqualifying for having a platform later but man wouldn't it be better to just acknowledge them, say you've grown as a person, and not fake a hacking conspiracy?

Not saying it was a wise move(I actually 100% agree with you and can't help but lol at the idiocy of this) but at the same time I think the response is exactly why she was probably motivated to go this route, and to an extent I can kinda see the logic, even if I think it's completely batshit and counter-productive.

- On the left she would no doubt be attacked by the small collection of loud moral righteous soap box seekers that can't accept the concept of personal growth.  See: Trevor Noah, Dave Chappelle, Bernie Sanders, Hilary Clinton etc.

- On the right you would get the faux collective moral panic bullshit, amplifying everything to the nth degree.

Why not try and scrub that record clean instead of trying to navigate that minefield?




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« Reply #17332 on: April 24, 2018, 10:32:32 PM »
good point Jack, thankfully she didn't run bleachbit on the servers and then smash the hard drive with a hammer so that the FBI can recover her original blogs to prove her innocence

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« Reply #17333 on: April 24, 2018, 10:33:19 PM »
stick your head into a boiling pot of rapeseed oil you piece of shit

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« Reply #17334 on: April 24, 2018, 10:41:28 PM »
Not saying it was a wise move(I actually 100% agree with you and can't help but lol at the idiocy of this) but at the same time I think the response is exactly why she was probably motivated to go this route, and to an extent I can kinda see the logic, even if I think it's completely batshit and counter-productive.
man wouldn't it be better to just acknowledge them, say you've grown as a person, and not fake a hacking conspiracy?
The funny thing is, she did just that when the same exact person pulled up stuff from her same exact blog about Charlie Crist last December: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/msnbc-s-joy-reid-apologizes-insensitive-lgbt-blog-posts-n826091
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MSNBC host Joy Reid issued an apology on Sunday for a series of blog posts nearly a decade ago, mostly critical of former Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida, that have been criticized as homophobic and “anti-gay.”

“This note is my apology to all who are disappointed by the content of blogs I wrote a decade ago, for which my choice of words and tone have legitimately been criticized,” Reid said in a statement shared with NBC News, which, like MSNBC, is owned by NBCUniversal.

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"Among the frequent subjects of my posts was then-governor Charlie Crist, at the time a conservative Republican, whose positions on issues like gay marriage and adoption by same-sex couples in Florida shared headlines with widely rumored reports that he was hiding his sexual orientation," Reid wrote in her apology.

"At no time have I intentionally sought to demean or harm the LGBT community, which includes people whom I deeply love. My goal, in my ham-handed way, was to call out potential hypocrisy," Reid added.

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Now, it is Reid who is seeking forgiveness for, as she put it, “insensitive, tone deaf and dumb” comments.

"In addition to friends and coworkers and viewers, I deeply apologize to Congressman Crist, who was the target of my thoughtlessness. My critique of anti-LGBT positions he once held but has since abandoned was legitimate in my view. My means of critiquing were not," she wrote.

"Re-reading those old blog posts, I am disappointed in myself. I apologize to those who also are disappointed in me. Life can be humbling. It often is. But I hope that you know where my heart is, and that I will always strive to use my words for good. I know better and I will do better," Reid wrote.
that was when someone edited the robots.txt to stop the Wayback Machine from logging her ReidReport.com URL

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Everyone is Bolton for the exits.
« Reply #17335 on: April 24, 2018, 10:45:21 PM »
She was probably just hacked. No need to make this so complicated.
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« Reply #17336 on: April 24, 2018, 10:49:09 PM »
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« Reply #17337 on: April 24, 2018, 10:50:23 PM »
speaking of racist grandpa: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/23/bernie-sanders-to-unveil-plan-to-guarantee-every-american-a-job/
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will announce a plan for the federal government to guarantee a job paying $15 an hour and health-care benefits to every American worker “who wants or needs one,” embracing the kind of large-scale government works project that Democrats have shied away from in recent decades.

Sanders's jobs guarantee would fund hundreds of projects throughout the United States aimed at addressing priorities such as infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals. Under the job guarantee, every American would be entitled to a job under one of these projects or receive job training to be able to do so, according to an early draft of the proposal.

A representative from Sanders's office said they had not yet done a cost estimate for the plan or decided how it would be funded, saying they were still crafting the proposal.


Anyone that is interested, there was a pretty short but informative podcast(annoying and unnecessary House of Cards clip aside) from William Darity(probably the leading academic advocate for this) I listened to a year or so ago about the arguments about the core of this idea(or really, its modern interpretation of what are fairly old ideas like FDR's second bill of economic rights) :

https://scholars.org/podcast/american-job-guarantee

I remember thinking at the time it was a populist platform ripe for a Democratic politician to jump on, and one I was interested in hearing more arguments on, I guess I'm not that shocked Bernie picked it up....Or that he is stuck on merging the raw idealism of the concept with the practical details of how it would work.

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« Reply #17338 on: April 24, 2018, 11:00:19 PM »
THINK AT YOUR OWN RISK

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« Reply #17339 on: April 25, 2018, 02:16:16 AM »
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Cindi sighting.
she's getting around: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2018/04/24/lifelong-anti-gun-liberal-nra-life-member/545851002/
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In 2012 I tweeted: "@BarackObama please repeal the 2nd amendment and stop the @nra."

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I was a lifelong Democrat. In the 2016 presidential debates I watched as Hillary Clinton said “I support the Second Amendment.” I didn’t believe her for a minute but at the time of the election I had been a gun owner for less than two weeks so I voted for her anyway.

I started going to the range and discovered that I really enjoyed target shooting. I joined the NRA in late 2016. At first I was a little turned off by how often the NRA spoke out against the left, but I gradually came around to see how extremely anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment the left was. For a large portion of them, their ultimate goal is a full gun ban and to repeal the Second Amendment — I know I was one of them.

In February 2017, I upgraded my NRA membership to become a life member and it was around this time that I renounced the Democratic Party because they were so anti-gun and anti-Constitution.

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We can’t let the left silence us on social media and stop us from speaking publicly. They want to take away our First and Second Amendment rights but we are not going to let them.

To my easily confused friends on the left — no, I am not calling for violence; no, I am not a terrorist, no, I am not racist. Peace.