Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 6855487 times)

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23700 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:19:50 AM »

Quote from: james on September 28, 2018, 10:54:04 AM

Im making a ranking of shithole countries and Im having trouble slotting the US in

1. Syria
2. Venezuela
3. USA
4. North Korea
5. Zimbabwe

Thoughts?

Move NK up a spot and it's not a bad start.

james · « **Reply #23701 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:22:46 AM »

Quote from: Maiden Voyage on September 28, 2018, 11:19:50 AM

Quote from: james on September 28, 2018, 10:54:04 AM
Im making a ranking of shithole countries and Im having trouble slotting the US in

1. Syria
2. Venezuela
3. USA
4. North Korea
5. Zimbabwe

Thoughts?

Move NK up a spot and it's not a bad start.

My reasoning is that most of the North Korean people are probably pretty decent.

Propagandhim · « **Reply #23702 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:24:20 AM »

Quote from: Kara on September 28, 2018, 11:14:23 AM

Quote from: Propagandhim on September 28, 2018, 11:08:21 AM
It's always been strange to me that the idea of this environmental catastrophe which will absolutely ensure massive migrant crisis never moves the needle in these so called anti-globalists minds. You'd think that if cartoon depictions of Manhattan underwater isn't going to work, the ones with massive swells of migrants seeking refuge into Europe and North America would make them be cautious in the absence of absolute belief or comprehension of the problem. Like they would decide it'd be a good time to appeal to authority when it concerns your worst nightmare -- demographic displacement. But they don't -- they don't budge. It's like you can't even speak to their own nature.

Why worry when your militaries have been murdering people in the periphery for decades? Are they going to care when it's 50 miles off the coast instead of 5,000 and mutiny?

No, I mean they actually don't think such a crisis is going to occur. It's not even a possibility for them. All their arguments concern the falsity of the problem, not their ability to maintain the current system in the face of it. The Himalayan glaciers will melt, threatening the water supply of all of South East Asia. 300 million in India already have no access to clean water. Those glaciers alone will pose a huge problem. If you really prod these people, they actually truly don't believe they'll even melt, not that they don't understand how a problem in India will affect them in Europe and America. You can't get through to them.

Mandark · « **Reply #23703 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:25:11 AM »

Two more things about Kavanaugh that are bugging me:

First, the legal drinking age thing. He says it was legal for seniors to drink since the age was 18 in Maryland at the time. In fact it was raised to 21 when he was still 17. There is NO WAY he doesn't remember that. Imagine a bunch of boozy teenagers on the cusp of buying beer legally, then at the last moment they have to wait three more years. Especially for a teen who would testify to Congress decades later about how deeply he loves beer. That would have been a huge grievance and they would have spent months bitching about it.

Second, saying the four witnesses "contradicted" Ford's testimony, or exonerated him, or however he phrased it. They said they didn't remember a specific party 35 years ago, which is a very different thing. This is already shitty behavior whenever a politician or operative repeats it as a talking point, but he's a judge up for a SCOTUS seat. He's deliberately lying about the probative value of evidence! He's a judge! That's not good!

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agrajag · « **Reply #23704 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:25:49 AM »

Quote from: Propagandhim on September 28, 2018, 11:08:21 AM

It's always been strange to me that the idea of this environmental catastrophe which will absolutely ensure massive migrant crisis never moves the needle in these so called anti-globalists minds. You'd think that if cartoon depictions of Manhattan underwater isn't going to work, the ones with massive swells of migrants seeking refuge into Europe and North America would make them be cautious in the absence of absolute belief or comprehension of the problem. Like they would decide it'd be a good time to appeal to authority when it concerns your worst nightmare -- demographic displacement. But they don't -- they don't budge. It's like you can't even speak to their own nature.

They'll be dead by the time that happens. Why worry about your children's future when you can line your pockets in the present?

agrajag · « **Reply #23705 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:28:12 AM »

Yeah, I've been thinking about that second point as well, Mandark. He's already shown to not be an unbiased or competent judge by misrepresenting witnesses. That alone should disqualify him, but GOP don't curr.

Mandark · « **Reply #23706 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:29:52 AM »

REMEMBER WHEN TED CRUZ TREATED JAMES GUNN'S EDGELORD TWEETS AS A CONFESSION TO ACTUAL CRIMES AND SAID HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED!?

agrajag · « **Reply #23707 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:30:40 AM »

No? That actually happened?

Mandark · « **Reply #23708 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:33:08 AM »

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1020665661486522368

Clearly more credible than women coming forward as victims.

agrajag · « **Reply #23709 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:36:57 AM »

What a joke.

james · « **Reply #23710 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:46:09 AM »

I need to log off before I start punching the screen

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #23711 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:48:21 AM »

I'd love for Beto to beat that ass, even though I don't see it.

Kara · « **Reply #23712 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:49:25 AM »

Quote from: Propagandhim on September 28, 2018, 11:24:20 AM

No, I mean they actually don't think such a crisis is going to occur. It's not even a possibility for them. All their arguments concern the falsity of the problem, not their ability to maintain the current system in the face of it. The Himalayan glaciers will melt, threatening the water supply of all of South East Asia. 300 million in India already have no access to clean water. Those glaciers alone will pose a huge problem. If you really prod these people, they actually truly don't believe they'll even melt, not that they don't understand how a problem in India will affect them in Europe and America. You can't get through to them.

The other week I was a party to a meeting about something I can't be specific about. The person affected by the issue had trinal citizenship, one of which was to a country people assume will not be as affected by anthropogenic climate change as everywhere else because part of it lies within the Arctic Circle. That particular citizenship was causing the brunt of the issue we were meeting about so eventually someone on my side of the table asked why the person just didn't relinquish it. Their response was: "Because when all the ice caps melt I'm going there."

Propagandhim · « **Reply #23713 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:52:21 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on September 28, 2018, 11:25:11 AM

Two more things about Kavanaugh that are bugging me:

First, the legal drinking age thing. He says it was legal for seniors to drink since the age was 18 in Maryland at the time. In fact it was raised to 21 when he was still 17. There is NO WAY he doesn't remember that. Imagine a bunch of boozy teenagers on the cusp of buying beer legally, then at the last moment they have to wait three more years. Especially for a teen who would testify to Congress decades later about how deeply he loves beer. That would have been a huge grievance and they would have spent months bitching about it.

Second, saying the four witnesses "contradicted" Ford's testimony, or exonerated him, or however he phrased it. They said they didn't remember a specific party 35 years ago, which is a very different thing. This is already shitty behavior whenever a politician or operative repeats it as a talking point, but he's a judge up for a SCOTUS seat. He's deliberately lying about the probative value of evidence! He's a judge! That's not good!

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Also, this might be a kind of facile perspective on things, but if the Republicans tried to push through a different nominee, then it would look extremely suspect if the Democrats try to block the new one. Like, picking someone else is just such a no-brainer. Kavanaugh doesn't even have to admit to the allegations if the Republicans just take the responsibility here.

agrajag · « **Reply #23714 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:57:51 AM »

Na, this is a full on idpol culture war for them and Kav is their poster boy at the moment. They are all in on this. See: Lindsay Graham.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #23715 on:** September 28, 2018, 11:59:03 AM »

Gorsuch never had anything like this happen to him during confirmation. Just last year. Maybe the gop should bring better people.

james · « **Reply #23716 on:** September 28, 2018, 12:00:03 PM »

Someone log me off the internet please I cant do it

I havre fucking work deadlines

Mandark · « **Reply #23717 on:** September 28, 2018, 12:00:09 PM »

Yeah, a bunch of old rich white guys saw the prospect of an old rich white guy losing out on a promotion based on the testimony of a woman and circled the fucking wagons.

Mandark · « **Reply #23718 on:** September 28, 2018, 12:01:08 PM »

Quote from: james on September 28, 2018, 12:00:03 PM

Someone log me off the internet please I cant do it

I havre fucking work deadlines

Join us, brother, and we shall be Mad Online together.

Propagandhim · « **Reply #23719 on:** September 28, 2018, 12:05:48 PM »

Quote from: Kara on September 28, 2018, 11:49:25 AM

Quote from: Propagandhim on September 28, 2018, 11:24:20 AM
No, I mean they actually don't think such a crisis is going to occur. It's not even a possibility for them. All their arguments concern the falsity of the problem, not their ability to maintain the current system in the face of it. The Himalayan glaciers will melt, threatening the water supply of all of South East Asia. 300 million in India already have no access to clean water. Those glaciers alone will pose a huge problem. If you really prod these people, they actually truly don't believe they'll even melt, not that they don't understand how a problem in India will affect them in Europe and America. You can't get through to them.

The other week I was a party to a meeting about something I can't be specific about. The person affected by the issue had trinal citizenship, one of which was to a country people assume will not be as affected by anthropogenic climate change as everywhere else because part of it lies within the Arctic Circle. That particular citizenship was causing the brunt of the issue we were meeting about so eventually someone on my side of the table asked why the person just didn't relinquish it. Their response was: "Because when all the ice caps melt I'm going there."

That's great. The only thing stopping an integrated worldwide environmental population catastrophe is a social security number. So he/she believes it's genuinely going to happen, but doesn't understand what exactly is happening. There are so many points of resistance to go through with these people. We are so fucked.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #23720 on:** September 28, 2018, 12:09:27 PM »

cruz getting told to shut the fuck up by grassley is almost enough to make me forget this nomination.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23721 on:** September 28, 2018, 12:57:26 PM »

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1045716560457986049

james · « **Reply #23722 on:** September 28, 2018, 12:58:52 PM »

Putin was right

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23723 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:20:30 PM »

CBS* has been livestreaming if anyone is interested:

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #23724 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:22:57 PM »

I don’t wanna be mad today.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23725 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:23:11 PM »

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1045723835532800001

stufte · « **Reply #23726 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:24:36 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on September 28, 2018, 01:22:57 PM

I don’t wanna be mad today.

I don't hate myself nearly enough to watch that shit today.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23727 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:31:52 PM »

Get in the muck and mire with me lads!

james · « **Reply #23728 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:32:17 PM »

You know what I need right now?

Bowsette

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23729 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:34:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1045728272091353088

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23730 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:39:04 PM »

This is not good for my blood pressure.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #23731 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:39:21 PM »

Flake ain't gonna do shit

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23732 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:42:09 PM »

https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/1045729289604407297

About as clairvoyant as Stinkles.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #23733 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:45:03 PM »

I thought it was common knowledge that stinkles was preet?

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23734 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:46:57 PM »

They're back in the room... Ugh.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23735 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:48:13 PM »

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1045731319131529216

stufte · « **Reply #23736 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:48:30 PM »

Is it ok to throw up at work? Does bile clean out of keyboards easily?

Mandark · « **Reply #23737 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:50:05 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on September 28, 2018, 01:22:57 PM

I don’t wanna be mad today.

WELL YOU PICKED THE WRONG DAY

james · « **Reply #23738 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:50:58 PM »

Im going to get fucking fired hurry this the fuck up I have a fucking deadline

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #23739 on:** September 28, 2018, 01:57:39 PM »

democrats are stupid and got hoodwinked by flake.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23740 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:01:06 PM »

It's going to the floor. Don't get fired over this bullshit.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23741 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:03:00 PM »

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1045735212745928704

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #23742 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:05:16 PM »

Did c-span just go down?

wow

stufte · « **Reply #23743 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:05:42 PM »

This is a gentleman's and woman's agreement, ya'll.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #23744 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:07:53 PM »

Flake is such a moron. Or a tool. Or both.

Propagandhim · « **Reply #23745 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:09:29 PM »

https://twitter.com/DougTenNapel/status/1045704649079222274

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23746 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:10:56 PM »

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1045737021002731520

Hoping this gets pushed back a week.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23747 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:12:16 PM »

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1045737004804313088

james · « **Reply #23748 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:14:58 PM »

Good.

This gives more time to share the stories of the other women. Maybe more will come forward.

I hope Avanetti has 60 minutes lined up. Even better, bring back Barbara Walters.

Also, one of the geezers might have a heart attack.

Every day counts.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #23749 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:15:05 PM »

All these cowards are going to bat for a rapist.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #23750 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:17:45 PM »

You'll cowards won't even vote for a rapist.

agrajag · « **Reply #23751 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:24:21 PM »

If this stall tactic works, it might actually work out for the best.

Think about it. Democrats are so scared of being viewed as obstructionist. If Kav ends up getting rejected and Repubs try to ram through some milquetoast conservative judge before the midterms, some Dems will most definitely will feel inclined to vote for him out of professionalism and desire not to appear partisan. They're soft like that. So the best case scenario for them is to be in a Kavanaugh limbo until after midterms where they hopefully can pick up a couple of senate seats.

Mandark · « **Reply #23752 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:36:25 PM »

I think what happened is Flake read my utterly scathing post and got shook.

james · « **Reply #23753 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:40:49 PM »

I have horrible diarrhea now, thanks Flake

james · « **Reply #23754 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:44:07 PM »

Why the fuck do we not get snap polls anymore

agrajag · « **Reply #23755 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:44:15 PM »

Republicans must be fucking fuming right now. This will drive them to the voting booths for sure...

Mandark · « **Reply #23756 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:53:17 PM »

Quote from: Exodust on September 28, 2018, 02:43:13 PM

Oh wait, that's a little too optimistic. I'll just be mad online with Mandark for another day.

When Kavanaugh gets confirmed it'll be like Punxsutawney Phil seeing his shadow: six more weeks of mad online.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #23757 on:** September 28, 2018, 03:00:44 PM »

People slobbing on flake after he did what kavanaugh did.

"yes, I will absolute do .......whatever you guys in charge want to do"

Kara · « **Reply #23758 on:** September 28, 2018, 03:04:17 PM »

Quote from: stufte on September 28, 2018, 01:48:30 PM

Is it ok to throw up at work? Does bile clean out of keyboards easily?

The odds of your coworkers and / or subordinates reading posts in Demi's Home for Wayward Posters with No Vocabulary, let alone on a regular basis, is pretty low. Don't fret!

Coitus · « **Reply #23759 on:** September 28, 2018, 03:14:30 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on September 28, 2018, 02:24:21 PM

If this stall tactic works, it might actually work out for the best.

Think about it. Democrats are so scared of being viewed as obstructionist. If Kav ends up getting rejected and Repubs try to ram through some milquetoast conservative judge before the midterms, some Dems will most definitely will feel inclined to vote for him out of professionalism and desire not to appear partisan. They're soft like that. So the best case scenario for them is to be in a Kavanaugh limbo until after midterms where they hopefully can pick up a couple of senate seats.

No way McTurtle lets the vote linger until after the midterms.

News:

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