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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| No Vote November
« Reply #26220 on: November 07, 2018, 08:08:58 PM »
I went back to try it and the triple parenthesis are automatically parsed out by Google. :lol

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« Reply #26221 on: November 07, 2018, 08:10:46 PM »
lol
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« Reply #26222 on: November 07, 2018, 08:11:51 PM »

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« Reply #26223 on: November 07, 2018, 08:12:25 PM »
that conspiracy theory hasn't felt like such a source of knee-slapping hilarity the last couple weeks, hope you understand

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« Reply #26224 on: November 07, 2018, 08:12:42 PM »
Justice Karavan is the worst.

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« Reply #26225 on: November 07, 2018, 08:15:48 PM »
that conspiracy theory hasn't felt like such a source of knee-slapping hilarity the last couple weeks, hope you understand
Sorry, I was actually interested to see if it was tracked by Trends.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| No Vote November
« Reply #26226 on: November 07, 2018, 08:16:38 PM »
Aren't the Bushes Texas people? 

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« Reply #26227 on: November 07, 2018, 08:16:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/KiraSadboi/status/1060063194385932289
fake news until i see him looking towards the heavens over a single colored map of illinois

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« Reply #26228 on: November 07, 2018, 08:17:08 PM »
Aren't the Bushes Texas people? 
Connecticut.

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« Reply #26229 on: November 07, 2018, 08:18:46 PM »
Jeb you're a mess

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« Reply #26230 on: November 07, 2018, 08:57:29 PM »
SCOTUS should not be able to declare something unconstitutional!

...unless it's to give people pensions or healthcare or whatevs.
Mandark, please stop your cowardly agenda of smearing this man by bringing up things he said in the past:
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If elected to the U.S. Senate, former U.S. Attorney Matt Whitaker says he would only support federal judges who have a Biblical view, and specifically a New Testament view, of justice. "If they have a secular world view, then I'm going to be very concerned about how they judge," Whitaker said at an April 25, 2014, Family Leader debate.

Whitaker didn't return my call to his office, but as a lawyer, one might expect him to know that setting religious conditions for holding a public office would violate the Iowa and U.S. constitutions. He was effectively saying that if elected, he would see no place for a judge of Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, agnostic or other faith, or of no faith.
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Whitaker went the farthest: "Natural law often times is used from the eye of the beholder and what I would like to see — I'd like to see things like their world view, what informs them. Are they people of faith? Do they have a biblical view of justice? — which I think is very important because we all know that our government ..."

"Levitical or New Testament?" interrupted Erickson.

"I'm a New Testament," continued Whitaker. "And what I know is as long as they have that world view, that they'll be a good judge. And if they have a secular world view, where this is all we have here on Earth, then I'm going to be very concerned about that judge."

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| No Vote November
« Reply #26231 on: November 07, 2018, 09:00:54 PM »
Beto’s consolation prize: Running for president
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Beto O’Rourke dodged a bullet. The Texas congressman came dangerously close to beating Ted Cruz on Tuesday night.

Lest his groupies wallow for long in defeat, they should know there’s a lot for them to like about his loss: No getting bogged down in the drudge-work of a freshman senator in the minority or obligation to fulfill his duty to serve out his term.

And, to O’Rourke’s credit, there was no blowout, a fate that would have extinguished his star. Indeed, he showed an unapologetic liberal could compete and almost win in Texas.

O’Rourke’s narrow loss to Cruz instead sets him up to run full time for president — and jump immediately into the top tier of Democratic contenders.

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Another tall and lanky politician, Abraham Lincoln, ran for president and won after losing two campaigns for Senate. More recently, Missouri Democrat Jason Kander pivoted from a 2016 Senate loss to the national stage, setting himself up as a leader on voting rights and laying the groundwork for a possible 2020 presidential campaign.

...

"Beto is Jason Kander times a hundred in terms of his appeal and potential connection to New Hampshire voters," he said.
Beto for Speaker!

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« Reply #26232 on: November 07, 2018, 09:04:06 PM »
I have a theory. What if Texans hate Cruz sl much that they keep voting him for senate so he stays in Washington and out of Texas?

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« Reply #26233 on: November 07, 2018, 09:22:18 PM »
Problem is they only voted for him once before yesterday, and they almost didn't vote him away yesterday.

I doubt Cruz would have stayed in Texas had he lost, 2024 is a GOP Presidential primary year even if Trump wins re-election.

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« Reply #26234 on: November 07, 2018, 09:26:37 PM »
Hey PD, how about that John James 52-46% nonsense despite everything happening around it. (Though she was pretty awful in that debate.)

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« Reply #26235 on: November 07, 2018, 09:35:35 PM »
Hey, speaking of Connecticut, Ned Lamont won the Governorship.

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« Reply #26236 on: November 07, 2018, 09:49:08 PM »
And this last week in his rallies around the country he was promoting lowering drug prices as a major agenda item that he needed a new Congress for. Along with lots of NAFTA bashing and promotion of his new trade deal that he also needed Congress to get their shit together on.

That "Perot voter" type straddle across the non-culture issues combined with Trump's personality continues to be an underrated and underreported/analyzed force imo.

This is one of the big questions of the Trump era. Does the GOP realign to a more populist nativism and embrace welfare for the right sort of people, or does that at least develop as a significant, organized faction on the right?

Cause a GOP that doesn't keep fucking up by trying to slash Medicare or privatize Social Security or remove pre-existing condition protections would be a scary prospect for Democrats.

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« Reply #26237 on: November 07, 2018, 10:00:52 PM »
You're gonna have to screenshot that. Did he really say that, concerning Cheebs' PMs?  :lol

Nah, I don’t think Besada mentioned it. I just like to drag his fat ass when ever possible.

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« Reply #26238 on: November 07, 2018, 10:09:09 PM »
And this last week in his rallies around the country he was promoting lowering drug prices as a major agenda item that he needed a new Congress for. Along with lots of NAFTA bashing and promotion of his new trade deal that he also needed Congress to get their shit together on.

That "Perot voter" type straddle across the non-culture issues combined with Trump's personality continues to be an underrated and underreported/analyzed force imo.

This is one of the big questions of the Trump era. Does the GOP realign to a more populist nativism and embrace welfare for the right sort of people, or does that at least develop as a significant, organized faction on the right?

Cause a GOP that doesn't keep fucking up by trying to slash Medicare or privatize Social Security or remove pre-existing condition protections would be a scary prospect for Democrats.

This just seems like a fantasy to me.

A Republican Party that’s just tax cuts, abortion, and pro guns would probably be pretty electorally successful.... but they’d basically just be Joe Manchin.

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« Reply #26239 on: November 07, 2018, 10:26:06 PM »
I wouldn't watch that sing Lady Gaga songs to Beto O'Rourke. :yuck

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« Reply #26240 on: November 07, 2018, 10:29:31 PM »
And this last week in his rallies around the country he was promoting lowering drug prices as a major agenda item that he needed a new Congress for. Along with lots of NAFTA bashing and promotion of his new trade deal that he also needed Congress to get their shit together on.

That "Perot voter" type straddle across the non-culture issues combined with Trump's personality continues to be an underrated and underreported/analyzed force imo.

This is one of the big questions of the Trump era. Does the GOP realign to a more populist nativism and embrace welfare for the right sort of people, or does that at least develop as a significant, organized faction on the right?

Cause a GOP that doesn't keep fucking up by trying to slash Medicare or privatize Social Security or remove pre-existing condition protections would be a scary prospect for Democrats.
It would be but....

I just think that such policy shifts run right up against who their largest constituencies are, where their loyalties ultimately lie, which is ultra rich people and their entrenched businesses(that don't want pesky social programs taking their money), and people that really want brown people to suffer.

Which is sort of what happened the first go round with Trump's economic populism(and really every time the GOP gives lip service to protecting popular entitlements)  and I don't know how you actually merry those two juxtaposing things into successful governance?

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« Reply #26241 on: November 07, 2018, 10:52:21 PM »

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« Reply #26242 on: November 07, 2018, 11:18:50 PM »
https://twitter.com/peachyblackg0rl/status/1059466584174010369

This is basically Trump now. He completely lost his his shit today. I was almost embarrassed for him.

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« Reply #26244 on: November 07, 2018, 11:34:48 PM »
They should just start revoking and restoring them randomly. They get to fuck with the media, the media gets endless content. No news fake or not actually gets covered. Everyone wins.

Hold on, I'm getting a phone call from the 202 area code.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| No Vote November
« Reply #26245 on: November 08, 2018, 02:03:43 AM »
On Hannity: "Obama weaponized the CIA."

That monster. When you think how harmless and fuzzy CIA was before he was elected.
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« Reply #26246 on: November 08, 2018, 02:12:12 AM »
On Hannity: "Obama weaponized the CIA."

That monster. When you think how harmless and fuzzy CIA was before he was elected.
I see your confusion, as a foreigner, you don't understand that it's not fair when it happens to America. Or we're told about it. Or...

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« Reply #26247 on: November 08, 2018, 02:17:15 AM »
Really, I just think everyone is better off and happier if we just stick any kinds of government documents behind a law that seals them for at least as long as Disney maintains their copyrights. Such a law should be the first priority of the new Congress and Speaker Beto.

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« Reply #26248 on: November 08, 2018, 03:12:36 AM »
Look, Mexico said the border was on the Nueces, but nooo we said it's on the Rio Grande.

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« Reply #26249 on: November 08, 2018, 08:50:12 AM »
The part of the wall that goes around Dallas is gonna be the hardest part.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| No Vote November
« Reply #26250 on: November 08, 2018, 11:02:29 AM »
This is one of the big questions of the Trump era. Does the GOP realign to a more populist nativism and embrace welfare for the right sort of people, or does that at least develop as a significant, organized faction on the right?
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So the people most affected by illegal immigration don’t really seem to be bothered by it? Lol

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« Reply #26251 on: November 08, 2018, 11:19:42 AM »
Imagine living in a reality where the white house edits videos to make it seem like a reporter is chopping an aide.


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« Reply #26252 on: November 08, 2018, 11:21:15 AM »
Imagine living in a reality where the white house edits videos to make it seem like a reporter is chopping an aide.


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« Reply #26253 on: November 08, 2018, 11:28:27 AM »
Imagine living in a reality where the white house edits videos to make it seem like a reporter is chopping an aide.

Didn't they just steal it from Infowars?
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« Reply #26255 on: November 08, 2018, 11:34:01 AM »
Jesus

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« Reply #26256 on: November 08, 2018, 11:37:36 AM »
And Trump considering Chris Christie as AG apparently. :spin

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Ideally, it's just another instance to humiliate him publicly.
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« Reply #26257 on: November 08, 2018, 11:39:09 AM »
Imagine living in a reality where the white house edits videos to make it seem like a reporter is chopping an aide.

Didn't they just steal it from Infowars?

Or did infowars get it from the white house?

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« Reply #26258 on: November 08, 2018, 11:43:45 AM »
what do you expect from a guy named Jim Accostya

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« Reply #26259 on: November 08, 2018, 12:02:52 PM »
wow if true
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« Reply #26260 on: November 08, 2018, 12:55:34 PM »
how do i apply to the electoral college

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« Reply #26261 on: November 08, 2018, 01:46:03 PM »
Make good grades in electoral high school
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« Reply #26262 on: November 08, 2018, 02:39:16 PM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1060534392634916864

oh dear :brazilcry
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« Reply #26263 on: November 08, 2018, 03:00:13 PM »
Jaydub likes blastocysts more than old ladies, lol

They really should have edited some guy yelling “KARATE.... chop!” Into that video. :-/

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« Reply #26264 on: November 08, 2018, 03:01:24 PM »
Logically consistent. Old ladies had a chance

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« Reply #26265 on: November 08, 2018, 03:02:43 PM »
I wonder which serial killer Trump will nominate to the bench. It's going to be hard to top Kavanaugh but he'll try.
Maybe that judge lady from Fox News.
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« Reply #26266 on: November 08, 2018, 03:05:12 PM »
I actually think Trump might stop listening to the federalist society and go rogue.

He’s not really interested in anybody else’s opinions and McGahn is out. We all know Trump doesn’t actually give a fuck about “conservative ideals”

This probably means he’ll just nominate an actual insane person.

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« Reply #26267 on: November 08, 2018, 03:12:46 PM »
I actually think Trump might stop listening to the federalist society and go rogue.

He’s not really interested in anybody else’s opinions and McGahn is out. We all know Trump doesn’t actually give a fuck about “conservative ideals”

This probably means he’ll just nominate an actual insane person.
When he singled out the Republicans that lost for not taking 'his embrace' a new era had dawned.
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« Reply #26268 on: November 08, 2018, 03:25:29 PM »
Imagine living in a reality where the white house edits videos to make it seem like a reporter is chopping an aide.

Didn't they just steal it from Infowars?
https://twitter.com/kgw/status/1060566570949373954

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« Reply #26269 on: November 08, 2018, 04:05:32 PM »
how do i apply to the electoral college

If you have to ask, it wont happen. Sorry bub you are out.
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« Reply #26270 on: November 08, 2018, 04:30:22 PM »
[speculation about GOP moving away from assaults on welfare state towards Euro style right populism]
It would be but....

I just think that such policy shifts run right up against who their largest constituencies are, where their loyalties ultimately lie, which is ultra rich people and their entrenched businesses(that don't want pesky social programs taking their money), and people that really want brown people to suffer.

Which is sort of what happened the first go round with Trump's economic populism(and really every time the GOP gives lip service to protecting popular entitlements)  and I don't know how you actually merry those two juxtaposing things into successful governance?

Rich people are their donor base but not their voting base, and even among Republicans there isn't a ton of support for gutting or privatizing the big, popular, old-age programs. That's despite decades of rhetoric on entitlements filtering through the right wing media environment.

I think there's a sweet spot of corporate-friendly policy, protecting existing middle-class bennies (SS, Medicare, mortgage deduction), and then chipping away at programs targeted at the poor with job requirements, drug testing, block granting, etc. where you can placate the donors while picking up more voters. That's usually the Republican equilibrium policy anyways, but they torture themselves to get there cause they commit to all these horribly unpopular white papers from Heritage or AEI or wherever. In retrospect, how insane was it for John McCain to run on voucherizing Medicare?

We've already seen a few states plan to implement work requirements for Medicaid while waiving those requirements in disproportionately white counties. I think people tend to be way less ideological in the way we typically conceive it, and there's a yuuuuuge chunk of voters from the center to the right who just don't want tax dollars being wasted on the "wrong" people.

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« Reply #26271 on: November 08, 2018, 04:42:45 PM »
Republicans just need to convince their donors that the Democrats would turn the US into the next 'venezuela' as they've been saying on the campaign trail.
When Romney lost the GOP reflected. The leadership was planning to compromise on migration and make the party more inclusive.
Jeb Bush was supposed to have delivered that message. But other Republicans turned the 2016 election into a existential crisis. The GOP had to win or they'd never be able to take power again.

As long as the Republicans frame elections as an existential crisis. They will get a lot of wiggle room on spending and policies.
Trump basically handed out farming subsidies because they needed the farmers to vote for the GOP.

Stuff like Kavanaugh and Trump's tantrums with the media are used as evidence that for the GOP this is a 'life or death struggle'.
Also why Trump singled out the Republicans that lost that didn't support him.
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« Reply #26272 on: November 08, 2018, 04:44:23 PM »
nintex, how much money do you want to bet that republicans gain seats in the house?
Not sure that they'll gain. But I'm quite certain that they won't lose much either.
I have this idea of seats swapping. Some reds turn blue, some blue turn red and then you get one or two independent party or green party people in there in an "upset".

At this point everything is 50/50 plus give or take a few percentage points. So unless everyone who didn't vote last time starts registering en masse the end result of all these elections will be roughly the same.

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« Reply #26273 on: November 08, 2018, 04:46:11 PM »
nintex, how much money do you want to bet that republicans gain seats in the house?
Not sure that they'll gain. But I'm quite certain that they won't lose much either.
I have this idea of seats swapping. Some reds turn blue, some blue turn red and then you get one or two independent party or green party people in there in an "upset".

At this point everything is 50/50 plus give or take a few percentage points. So unless everyone who didn't vote last time starts registering en masse the end result of all these elections will be roughly the same.
Most votes were actually 50/50 or really close to it. Just look at Florida. They're still counting.
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« Reply #26274 on: November 08, 2018, 04:47:50 PM »
Most votes were actually 50/50 or really close to it.

No, that's not true.

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« Reply #26275 on: November 08, 2018, 04:49:10 PM »
Most votes were actually 50/50 or really close to it.

No, that's not true.
Look at the 'races to watch'
https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/house/

Basically all close to 50/50
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« Reply #26276 on: November 08, 2018, 04:53:56 PM »
There were 435 races. That lists five of them.

Going by current vote totals, less 1 in 20 races were within a 2% margin, less than 1 in 10 races were within a 5% margin.

This is not "most."

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« Reply #26277 on: November 08, 2018, 04:55:13 PM »
There were 435 races. That lists five of them.

Going by current vote totals, less 1 in 20 races were within a 2% margin, less than 1 in 10 races were within a 5% margin.

This is not "most."
It is when you consider a lot of those races aren't competitive.
I'm not counting the slam dunk red or blue ones obviously.
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« Reply #26278 on: November 08, 2018, 04:55:47 PM »
"Most of the races are 50/50, once you throw out the ones which are not."

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« Reply #26279 on: November 08, 2018, 05:01:49 PM »
why can't you just say "oh wait nvm" for once
Because only a sith deals in absolutes.
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