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« Reply #31620 on: February 15, 2019, 06:06:34 PM »
while some are perhaps questionable
They pretty much all are. No President or Congress should be renewing annually a "national emergency" regarding a defunct oil company's attempt at a business deal with Iran in 1995: https://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/15/us/oil-concern-ends-a-deal-with-iran-as-president-acts.html
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A big American oil company said today that it would not proceed with its agreement to develop two large offshore oilfields for Iran after the White House announced that President Clinton would issue a directive barring all such transactions.

The step by Conoco Inc. ended an energy deal that would have been the first involving Iran and the United States since Washington severed relations with Teheran in 1980. It came after eight days of debate within the Administration about how and whether to block an agreement that top deputies to Mr. Clinton acknowledged was legal but said could undermine American efforts to isolate Iran.

In announcing Mr. Clinton's decision this morning to block such oil-development agreements, the White House said the President was trying to set an example for American allies and was also trying to prevent Iran from accumulating wealth that could make it more dangerous to its neighbors.

"We need to send a clear and unequivocal message," Michael D. McCurry, the White House spokesman, said. "There cannot be normal relations until Iran's unacceptable behavior changes."

It's not like it's a power that they aren't aware they can clean up. Both Clinton and Obama issued and withdrew "national emergencies" (for Haiti and H1N1) during the same year. Bush and Obama both terminated "national emergencies" relating to countries that weren't problems or didn't exist anymore (Yugoslavia, Sierra Leone, Cote d'Ivoire) and Obama even cancelled a nearly 20 year old one against Burma (Myanmar).

Perhaps, not enough of a constitutional scholar to try and dig in with a position on that.. My only commentary is it's pretty convincing that after surveying the history of the power's use that Trump's invocation and surrounding behavior deviates pretty notably from past invocations and that if the courts uphold it as valid, people seem right to think that it would unavoidably establish a pretty expansive precedent both legally and normatively.

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« Reply #31621 on: February 15, 2019, 06:13:16 PM »

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« Reply #31622 on: February 15, 2019, 06:14:10 PM »
I'm not sure reducing the specifics of Trump's invoking "national emergency" powers to partly fund a border wall to "racism is a problem" is going to lead to best practices.

Best practices would be the Dems giving him funding for the wall like you thought they should've?


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« Reply #31624 on: February 15, 2019, 06:18:44 PM »
Not even mad, I deserve it. But you have to at least like my post about Matt Christman.

Not until he stops playing footsie with Maoist Third Worldism and fully embraces it

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« Reply #31625 on: February 15, 2019, 06:19:14 PM »
Sad Romney Cam :lawd

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« Reply #31626 on: February 15, 2019, 06:25:03 PM »
Quote from: Ann Coulter
The only national emergency is that our president is an idiot

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1096471147804164096

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1096317175277576192

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« Reply #31627 on: February 15, 2019, 06:31:23 PM »
CBS posted a transcript Friday afternoon of the conversation between former acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe and host Scott Pelley about alleged discussions in the Department of Justice concerning invoking the 25th Amendment to remove President Donald Trump from office.


Earlier on Friday, McCabe’s spokesperson said that McCabe did not ever “participate in any extended discussions about the use of the 25th Amendment, nor is he aware of any such discussions.”

The statement followed reporting that McCabe told CBS that top officials at the Justice Department discussed whether cabinet members would support invoking the 25th Amendment shortly before special counsel Robert Mueller was appointed. That conversation was not included in the short clip of the interview released Thursday, but Pelley referenced it on air.

Here’s the portion of the transcript released by CBS on Friday:

ANDREW MCCABE: Discussion of the 25th Amendment was, was simply Rod raised the issue and discussed it with me in the context of thinking about how many other cabinet officials might support such an effort.

SCOTT PELLEY: Rosenstein was actually openly talking about whether there was a majority of the cabinet who would vote to remove the president.

MCCABE: That’s correct. Counting votes or possible votes.

PELLEY: What seemed to be coursing through the mind of the deputy attorney general was getting rid of the president of the United States–

MCCABE: –Well–

PELLEY: –One way or another.

MCCABE: I can’t confirm that.  But what I can say is the deputy attorney general was definitely very concerned about the president, about his capacity and about his intent at that point in time.

PELLEY: How did he bring up the idea of the 25th Amendment to you?

MCCABE: Honestly, I don’t remember. He– it was just another kinda topic that he jumped to in the midst of– of– of a wide-ranging conversation.

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« Reply #31628 on: February 15, 2019, 06:38:35 PM »
Mandark's favorite Tucker takes on shosta's favorite foreign policy experts: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-are-these-professional-war-peddlers-still-around-tucker-carlson-max-boot-bill-kristol/
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The International Institute for Strategic Studies, an influential British think tank, describes Boot as one of the “world’s leading authorities on armed conflict.”


None of this, it turns out, means anything. The professional requirements for being one ofthe world’s Leading Authorities on Armed Conflict do not include relevant experience with armed conflict. Leading authorities on the subject don’t need a track record of wise assessments or accurate predictions. All that’s required are the circular recommendations of fellow credential holders. If other Leading Authorities on Armed Conflict induct you into their ranks, you’re in. That’s good news for Max Boot.

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Days later, Boot wrote a separate piece for Commentary magazine calling for American bombing of Iran. It was a busy week, even by the standards of a Leading Authority on Armed Conflict. Boot conceded that “it remains a matter of speculation what Iran would do in the wake of such strikes.” He didn’t seem worried.

Listed in one place, Boot’s many calls for U.S.-led war around the world come off as a parody of mindless warlike noises, something you might write if you got mad at a country while drunk. (“I’ll invade you!!!”) Republicans in Washington didn’t find any of it amusing. They were impressed. Boot became a top foreign policy adviser to John McCain’s presidential campaign in 2008, to Mitt Romney in 2012, and to Marco Rubio in 2016.

Everything changed when Trump won the Republican nomination. Trump had never heard of the International Institute for Strategic Studies. He had no idea Max Boot was a Leading Authority on Armed Conflict.

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Under ordinary circumstances, Bill Kristol would be famous for being wrong. Kristol still goes on television regularly, but it’s not to apologize for the many demonstrably untrue things he’s said about the Middle East, or even to talk about foreign policy. Instead, Kristol goes on TV to attack Donald Trump.

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« Reply #31629 on: February 15, 2019, 06:45:51 PM »
Mandark's right about the emergencies thing. Since the last overhaul, our national emergencies just kind of look like the way that an administration lets Congress know it'll start doing some foreign policy stuff, mostly asset seizure, and Congress can up or down any of them anyway so everything seems fine here.
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« Reply #31631 on: February 15, 2019, 06:55:53 PM »
Speaking of State of the State, Abbot says he wants increase school funding but over here in blue bonnet land, property tax goes towards school funds. A local issue is that property tax is starting to get too high thanks to the school tax and not all people are for it. Many are trying to get active to try to find ways to deter education funding beyond a tax.

It's a big issue rn. What's a big local issue for the rest of y'all?

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« Reply #31632 on: February 15, 2019, 07:01:41 PM »
Don't know if I'm ready for woke Coulter.

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« Reply #31633 on: February 15, 2019, 07:09:11 PM »
Don't know if I'm ready for woke Coulter.
I don't think it's a state she can achieve.

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« Reply #31634 on: February 15, 2019, 07:12:11 PM »
There's nothing "woke" about what she said, she's mad because she knows that the spending bill is as far as he's going to get with wall funding and it's a capitulation from the most hardline immigration president since Eisenhower.
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« Reply #31636 on: February 15, 2019, 07:16:27 PM »
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« Reply #31637 on: February 15, 2019, 07:19:47 PM »
It's the same old Ann, she's always delighted in calling conservative men pussies for not being as hardline as her.

It's one part of her act that I totally believe.

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« Reply #31638 on: February 15, 2019, 07:19:50 PM »
I don't know what it says that woke politics and being mad politics sound like the same thing.



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« Reply #31641 on: February 15, 2019, 07:30:17 PM »
I feel the Onion has a funny political writter and other that doesnt know what satire is:

https://politics.theonion.com/trump-offers-clear-historical-precedent-for-deploying-1832659857
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« Reply #31642 on: February 15, 2019, 07:33:27 PM »
Ann figured out what other "conservative voices" like Sarah Palin didn't. Trump took off with their base.
It'll be interesting to see if her followers stick with her in this fight against Trump or turn against her.
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« Reply #31643 on: February 15, 2019, 07:37:37 PM »
No, it won't.

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« Reply #31644 on: February 15, 2019, 07:40:43 PM »
Between having Alex Jones banned, Roger Stone gagged and Manafort and Flynn arrested Trump really did a lot to fight extreme right hate speech.
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« Reply #31645 on: February 15, 2019, 07:51:16 PM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/trump-emergency-declaration-contemptuous-of-rule-of-law/

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David French is contemptuous of the emergency on our border.

Does he lock his door at night? Does his house have walls? The answers are yes and yes.

America is entitled to walls and locked doors, too, even if most of Congress apparently wants our Country to be flooded by foreigners who have not been vetted for criminal backgrounds, disease, or whether America needs them.
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Absolutely everything about the enforcement of our immigration laws for the last 30 years has been "contemptuous of the rule of law". At least Trump's making an effort to solve a problem that the American people overwhelming want solved; and that our so-called representatives of both parties have been unwilling to solve because it suits their political interests not to.
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Exactly.

What was DACA but contempt for the law.

What was the unwillingness of Clinton, Bush, and Obama to spend the money appropriated for border security on border security but contempt for the law.

What are sanctuary States and cities expressing if not contempt for the law.
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Sorry David, John Yoo has the better of the argument.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/trump-border-wall-emergency-declaration-legal-likely-upheld/
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Thank you for your article, but I respectfully disagree. There is indeed a crisis on the border that has been ruefully ignored by presidents since the 1980s. It is not a politically-safe problem to solve, so all the others put bandaids on it to keep their political stature intact. As someone who lives back east you don’t have the perspective of someone who actually lives in the nation’s largest state of Texas, but I do. An illegal immigrant ran into me in an auto accident many years ago. Nothing serious, but it left an impression as I realized he had no insurance, license and I called the police who came to assist and detain. It is a real problem for law abiding citizens.
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« Reply #31646 on: February 15, 2019, 07:54:30 PM »
Between having Alex Jones banned, Roger Stone gagged and Manafort and Flynn arrested Trump really did a lot to fight extreme right hate speech.


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« Reply #31647 on: February 15, 2019, 08:11:14 PM »
http://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/capitol-police-crackdown-press-escalates-physical-altercation
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A Capitol Police crackdown turned physical Thursday afternoon, when officers clashed with reporters attempting to speak with senators in a location known as key territory for lawmakers and media to mix: the Senate basement.

Capitol Police officers physically shoved reporters away from senators heading to vote on the spending package, even when lawmakers were willingly engaging with the press.

Officers surrounded lawmakers and escorted them, physically blocking reporters from walking and talking alongside senators. It is common for Capitol Police to be present in the basement during a vote, but there were many more officers on hand than usual.

“It got really ugly,” said Paul McLeod, a BuzzFeed immigration reporter who witnessed the escalation.
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“It was insane, people were getting shoved into walls,” McLeod said. “It was unsustainable. It was violent.”

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« Reply #31648 on: February 15, 2019, 08:11:51 PM »
https://twitter.com/AnnetteGH86/status/1096511963079749632

trump made coulter's twitter great again!


ETA until trump retweets the "I fucked ann coulter up the ass" thing?
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« Reply #31649 on: February 15, 2019, 08:14:14 PM »
http://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/capitol-police-crackdown-press-escalates-physical-altercation
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A Capitol Police crackdown turned physical Thursday afternoon, when officers clashed with reporters attempting to speak with senators in a location known as key territory for lawmakers and media to mix: the Senate basement.

Capitol Police officers physically shoved reporters away from senators heading to vote on the spending package, even when lawmakers were willingly engaging with the press.

Officers surrounded lawmakers and escorted them, physically blocking reporters from walking and talking alongside senators. It is common for Capitol Police to be present in the basement during a vote, but there were many more officers on hand than usual.

“It got really ugly,” said Paul McLeod, a BuzzFeed immigration reporter who witnessed the escalation.
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“It was insane, people were getting shoved into walls,” McLeod said. “It was unsustainable. It was violent.”

lock them up!

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« Reply #31650 on: February 15, 2019, 08:22:21 PM »
Roger Stone gagged
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« Reply #31651 on: February 15, 2019, 08:36:48 PM »
help I'm being gaslighted by the Dutch fake news apparatus

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« Reply #31652 on: February 15, 2019, 08:41:17 PM »
don't worry I've issued a gag order on him making any kind of comment from within the International Tribunal at The Hague

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« Reply #31653 on: February 15, 2019, 08:48:04 PM »


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« Reply #31654 on: February 15, 2019, 08:56:10 PM »
NINTEX, BLUE COAT ON TULSI

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« Reply #31655 on: February 15, 2019, 09:33:08 PM »
Tulsi is my favorite pick for 2020 so far. I am liking her A LOT.

And those silver streaks in her hair? Girl. Dios mio.

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« Reply #31656 on: February 15, 2019, 09:35:17 PM »
her polling has exploded over the last two weeks, in the Politico/Morning Consult poll she's gone from 0% to 1% that's an infinite increase

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« Reply #31657 on: February 15, 2019, 09:39:03 PM »
her polling has exploded over the last two weeks, in the Politico/Morning Consult poll she's gone from 0% to 1% that's an infinite increase

I have a talent for riding for politicians that lose. Bring it!
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« Reply #31658 on: February 15, 2019, 09:51:55 PM »
the filler, shosta, cindi campaign staff will catapult tulsi to victory
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« Reply #31660 on: February 15, 2019, 10:30:35 PM »


https://twitter.com/m_millsey/status/1096521317279584256
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« Reply #31661 on: February 15, 2019, 11:59:21 PM »
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/15/mueller-manafort-sentencing-1173314

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Robert Mueller’s team told a federal judge Friday that federal guidelines call for Paul Manafort to get as long as 24-and-a-half years in prison for his conviction last summer for financial malfeasance.

The special counsel’s submission is the opening move in what will be a two-step sentencing process for the 69-year-old former Trump campaign chairman, who appears to be on track to spend the rest of his life in prison absent a presidential pardon.

President Trump would be crazy to try to pardon Manafort now.

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« Reply #31662 on: February 16, 2019, 12:03:28 AM »
Is that normal for bank fraud and income tax evasion? 20 to 30 years?
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« Reply #31663 on: February 16, 2019, 12:04:34 AM »
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1096530844548849664

If I didn't know better, or I was Nintex, I would suspect this is a semi-savvy executive understanding the importance of massaging the egos of the political gatekeepers of his party.... and not just a dotty old racist rambling like a talk radio addicted elderly uncle from Enid, Oklahoma with a damaged prefrontal cortex that somehow won the presidency because the country is a quarter moron and a quarter apathetic shitheel.

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« Reply #31664 on: February 16, 2019, 12:05:47 AM »
Given what we know of his TV-watching habits, I'm leaning towards the latter.
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« Reply #31665 on: February 16, 2019, 12:14:34 AM »
I think my favorite thing is what part of Rush Limbaugh impresses him.

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« Reply #31666 on: February 16, 2019, 12:15:29 AM »
Did you read this, Shosta?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/paloma/the-trailer/2019/02/12/the-trailer-tulsi-gabbard-finds-her-people-in-iowa/5c6222481b326b71858c6b53/?utm_term=.9df6fb6b4fd1
yup. snooze. tulsi is an outsider pretending to be an insider. she's generating absolutely no enthusiasm except for rabid anti-israelites like filler and I. The debates will be make it or break it, if she even gets there. What she needs is high ranking endorsements from the progressive wing and for Bernie not to run. Also, and I've been thinking about doing this myself, getting her known out there as the hottest presidential contender. Ever. I think Democrats can win back the white male vote with that.
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« Reply #31667 on: February 16, 2019, 12:21:22 AM »
I've been getting these El Babua likes lately that just feel like, I don't know, filler likes. We've already got one person handing out kisses of death, we don't need another! :maf
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« Reply #31668 on: February 16, 2019, 12:38:28 AM »
All my likes are genuine. They are only given to the most entertaining posts.

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« Reply #31669 on: February 16, 2019, 01:59:59 AM »
I have assumed from the start that Tulsi's realistic long game was a VP nod to an ultra progressive nominee(most likely Bernie) pitched as a way to help round out their foreign policy cred and hit cross party populist voters(with her defense of guns, draconian immigration policies, and subtle racist signals at times).

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« Reply #31670 on: February 16, 2019, 03:10:00 AM »
I've been getting these El Babua likes lately that just feel like, I don't know, filler likes. We've already got one person handing out kisses of death, we don't need another! :maf

Its 2019 a like is a like

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« Reply #31671 on: February 16, 2019, 04:20:09 AM »
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-border-wall-gofundme-leader-is-now-coins-with-his-face-on-them
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The organizer of an effort to crowdfund construction for the southern border wall has a new plan to raise money: selling commemorative coins with his face on them.

Fans of Brian Kolfage, the triple-amputee Iraq War veteran behind the border wall effort that started on GoFundMe, can now buy a “Brian Kolfage Collector's Coin” coin for $49.99. One side of the coin features the logo of Kolfage’s nonprofit, We Build the Wall. The other side bears Kolfage’s Twitter profile picture, and the inscription “We Build the Wall / Brian Kolfage.”

Proceeds from the Kolfage coin sales will go towards the wall effort, according to We Build the Wall.
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In addition, the group is selling a “gold signature series” coin that features another picture of Kolfage. Wall supporters hoping to get that last coin, however, will have to buy all three of the coins (the silver Kolfage coin, the Trump coin, and the gold Kolfage coin) for a combined $149.95. But that’s a bargain, according to We Build the Wall, which claims that the three-coins set is a “$200 value.”



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« Reply #31672 on: February 16, 2019, 09:33:07 AM »
Grifters gotta grift. :trumps
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« Reply #31673 on: February 16, 2019, 10:33:35 AM »

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Thank you very much, everybody.

Before we begin, I would like to say that we have a large team of very talented people in China. We have had a negotiation going on for about two days. It’s going extremely well—who knows what that means because it only matters if we get it done, but we are very much working very closely with China and President Xi who I respect a lot, very good relationship that we have. And we are a lot closer than we ever were in this country with having a real trade deal.

We are covering everything, all of the points that people have been talking about for years that said couldn’t be done, whether it was theft or anything, anything, the unfairness. We have been losing, on average, $375 billion a year with China. A lot of people think it is $506 billion. Some people think it is much more than that. We’re gonna be leveling the playing field. The tariffs are hurting China very badly. They don’t want them and frankly if we can make the deal, it would be my honor to remove them. But otherwise, we are having very many billions of dollars pouring into our Treasury; we have never had that before with China. It has been very much of a one-way street. So that’s happening. And the relationship with China is very good, but I think they finally respect our country. They haven’t respected us for a long time, not for a long time.

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The U.K. and the U.S., as you probably have been seeing and hearing, we are agreeing to go forward and preserve our trade agreement. You know all of the situation with respect to Brexit and the complexity and the problems. But we have a very good trading relationship with U.K. and that has just been strengthened further. So with the U.K., we are continuing our trade. And we are going to actually be increasing it very substantially as time goes by. We expect that the U.K. will be very, very substantially increased as it relates to trade with the United States—the relationship there also is very good.

We have a lot of great announcements having to do with Syria and our success with the eradication of the caliphate, and that’ll be announced over the next 24 hours, and many other things. A lot of positive things are going on. We’re working on a summit, and you know all about the summit. It’ll be in Vietnam. Hanoi. And we will be meeting in Hanoi. I think a lot of you will be going, I suspect, and I hope we have the same good luck as we had in the first summit.

A lot was done in the first summit. No more rockets going up, no more missiles going up. No more testing of nuclear. Take back our remains, the remains of our great heroes from the Korean War. And we got back our hostages. But we hope we will be very much equally as successful. I’m in no rush for speed. We just don’t want testing. The sanctions, as you know, remain. Everything is remaining. China has been helping us and Russia has been helping us, and South Korea I think you can say has been—we have been working very closely with South Korea, with Japan, but China, Russia on the border have really been at least partially living up to what they’re supposed to be doing, and that’s okay, as per the United Nations.

So we will have a meeting on the 27th and 28th of February, and I think that will be a very successful, and I look forward to seeing Chairman Kim. We have also established a very good relationship which has never happened between him or his family and the United States. They have really taken advantage of the United States, billions of dollars has been paid to them, and we won’t let that happen. But we think that North Korea and Chairman Kim have a tremendous potential as an economic force and economic power. Their location between South Korea and then Russia and China, right smack in the middle, is phenomenal. And we think they have a great chance for tremendous economic prosperity in the future. So I look forward to seeing Chairman Kim in Vietnam.

Today, I’m announcing several critical actions that my administration is taking to confront a problem that we have right here at home. We fight wars that are 6,000 miles away, wars that we should have never been in in many cases, but we don’t control our own border. So we are going to confront the national-security crisis on our southern border. And we are going to do it one way or the other.

We have to do it. Not because it was a campaign promise, which it is—was one of many, by the way, not my only one. We are rebuilding the military, our economy is thriving like never before—you look at other economies, they are doing terribly, and we’re doing phenomenally. The market is up tremendously today. Not that that’s anything, because I’ll go back in and they’ll say the market went back down. But the market is getting close to the new highs that we created. We have all the records. We have every record, but we are getting close to that point again where we’ll create new records. So our country is doing very well economically, and we have done a lot. But one of the things I said I have to do and I want to do is border security, because we have tremendous amounts of drugs flowing into our country, much of it coming from the southern border.

When you look and when you listen to politicians, in particular, certain Democrats, they say it all comes through the port of entry. It’s wrong. It’s wrong. It’s just a lie. It’s all a lie. They say walls don’t work. Walls work 100 percent. Whether it’s El Paso—I really was smiling because the other night I was in El Paso, we had a tremendous crowd, tremendous crowd, and I asked the people, many of whom were from El Paso, but they came from all over Texas, and I asked, them, I said, “Let me ask you as a crowd, when the wall went up, was it better?” You were there, some of you. It was not only better, it was like 100 percent better. You know what they did. But that’s only one example. There were so many examples. In El Paso, they have close to 2,000 murders right on the other side of the wall, and they have 23 murders. That’s a lot of murders, but it’s not close to 2,000 murders right on the other side of the wall in Mexico.

So everyone knows that walls work, and there are better examples than El Paso, frankly. You just take a look almost everywhere. Take a look at Israel. They are building another wall. Their wall is 99.9 percent effective, they told me. Ninety-nine point nine percent.

That is what it would be with us, too. The only weakness is they go to the wall and go around the wall. They go around the wall and in, okay, that’s what it is. It’s very simple. And a big majority of the big drugs, the big drug loads don’t go through ports of entry. They can’t go through ports of entry. You can’t take big loads because you have people, you have some very capable people, the border patrol, law enforcement looking. You can’t take human traffic, women and girls, you can’t take them through ports of entry. You can’t have them tied up in the back seat of a car or a truck or a van. They open the door, they look. If they can’t see three women with tape on their mouth or three women whose hands are tied. They go through areas where you have no wall. Everybody knows that. Nancy knows it. Chuck knows it. They all know it. It’s all a big lie. It’s a big con game. You don’t have to be very smart to know, you put up a barrier, the people come in and—that’s it, they can’t do anything, unless they walk left or right and they find an area where there is no barrier and they come into the United States. Welcome.

We have detained more people. Our border agents are doing such incredible work. Our military has been incredible. We put up barbed wire on top of certain old walls that were there. We fixed the wall, and we loaded it up with barbed wire. It is very successful. But our military has been fantastic, and I want to thank them. And it's very necessary. We’ve broken up two caravans that are on their way. They just are in—they’re in the process of breaking up. We have another one that we haven’t been able to break up yet.

We have been working with Mexico much better than ever before. I want to thank the president. I want to thank Mexico. They have their own problems. They have the largest number of murders that they have ever had in their history, almost 40,000 murders—40,000. They’ve got to straighten that out. I think they will. But I just want to thank the president, because he has been helping us with these monstrous caravans that have been coming up. We had one that was up to 15,000 people; it’s largely broken up. Others have gotten through. And in Tijuana, you have a lot of people staying. If we didn’t have the wall up and if we didn’t have the wall secured and strengthened, they would have walked right through. They would be welcome to the United States.

One of the things we saved a tremendous, just a tremendous amount on would be sending the military. Well—we don’t need the military. ’Cause we would have a wall. So I’m going to be signing a national emergency, and it’s been signed many times before. It’s been signed by other presidents, from 1977 or so, it gave the presidents the power. There has rarely been a problem. They sign it. Nobody cares. I guess they weren’t very exciting. They sign it for far less important things in some cases, in many cases. We are talking about an invasion of our country with drugs, with human traffickers, with all types of criminals and gangs.

We have some of the greatest people I know—they’ve been with me from the beginning of my campaign, almost from the first week—the angel moms. Unfortunately, we have new angel moms. One incredible woman who showed me her daughter who we’re talking about, killed in the year of ’18. I said, “I haven’t seen you before.” She said, “No, I’m new.” I said, “That’s too bad, it’s too bad, it’s so sad.” Stand up just for a second. Show how beautiful your girl was. Thank you.

I have such respect for these people. Angel moms, angel dads, angel families. I have great respect for these people. These are great people. These are great people. They’re fighting for their children that have been killed by people that were illegally in this country. And the press doesn’t cover them. They don’t want to, incredibly, and they’re not treated the way they should be. They are fighting for other people because they don’t want what happened to their children or husband or anybody—we have one young lady whose husband—please, stand up. Your husband was just killed in Maryland. Incredible man just killed. Beautiful children won’t be seeing their father again. These are brave people. These are people that—they don’t have to be here. They don’t have to be doing this. They are doing it for other people. So I just want to thank all of you for being here, okay, I really do. I want to thank you. Incredible people.

Last year, 70,000 Americans were killed at least—I think the number is ridiculously low—by drugs including meth and heroin and cocaine, fentanyl. Now one of the things that I did with President Xi in China when I met him in Argentina at a summit before I started talking about the trade—it was a trade meeting, it went very well. But before I talked about trade I talked about something more important. I said, “Listen, we have tremendous amounts of fentanyl coming into our country, kills tens of thousands of people, I think far more than anybody registers. And I’d love you to declare it a lethal drug and put it on your criminal list.” And their criminal list is much tougher than our criminal list. Their criminal list, a drug dealer gets a thing called the death penalty. Our criminal list a drug dealer gets a thing called—how about a fine.

And when I asked President Xi, I said, “You have a drug problem?” [He said,] “No, no, no.” I said, “You have 1.4 billion people, what do you mean you have no drug problem?” [He said,] “No, we don’t have a drug problem.” I said, “Why?” [He said,] “Death penalty. We give death penalty to people that sell drugs.” End of problem. What do we do? We set up blue-ribbon committees, lovely men and women. They sit around the table. They have lunch, they eat, they dine, and they waste a lot of time. So if we want to get smart, we can get smart. You can end the drug problem. You can end it a lot faster than you think.

So President Xi has agreed to put fentanyl on his list of deadly, deadly drugs. And it’s a criminal penalty and the penalty is death. So that’s frankly one of the things I’m most excited about in our trade deal. Want to know the truth, I think maybe there is no more important point.

We are going to make billions of dollars with this trade deal. It’s going to be great with this country and great for China, I hope. Their market is down close to 40 percent. Our market is way up. We have picked up since my election trillions of dollars of worth, trillions, many trillions. And China has lost trillions of dollars. But I want it to be good for China and I want it to be good for the United States. We’ll see what happens. China is coming here next week. They are coming home, the traders. And then China is coming here next week. I’ll be meeting with President Xi at some point after that to maybe have remaining deals. We’ll make them directly one-on-one ourselves. So.

So we’re going to be signing today, and registering, national emergency and it’s a great thing to do. Because we have an invasion of drugs, invasion of gangs, invasion of people and it’s unacceptable. And by signing the national emergency, something signed many times by other presidents, many, many times—President Obama, in fact—we may be using one of the national emergencies that he signed having to do with cartels, criminal cartels. It’s a very good emergency that he signed. And we’re going to use parts of it on our dealings on cartels. So that would be a second national emergency. But in that case it’s already in place. And what we really want to do is simple. It’s not like it is complicated. It’s very simple. We want to stop drugs from coming into our country. We want to stop criminals and gangs from coming into our country. Nobody has done the job that we have ever done. I mean nobody has done the job that we’ve done on the border.

And in a way, what I did by creating such a great economy—and if the opposing party got in, this economy would be down the tubes, you know, I hear a lot of people say, “Oh well, but maybe the previous administration … ”—let me tell you, the previous administration, it was heading south and it was going fast. We would have been down the tubes. The regulations were strangling our country, unnecessary regulations. By creating such a strong economy, you just look at your televisions and see what is going on today, it’s through the roof. What happens is more people want to come.

So we have far more people trying to get into our country today than probably we have ever had before and we have done an incredible job in stopping them, but it is a massive number of people. If we had the wall it would be very easy. We would make up for the cost of the wall just in the cost of the fact that I would be able to have fewer people. We wouldn’t need all of this incredible talent, some of whom are sitting in the first row. You wouldn’t need all of this incredible talent. We would get, we would get thousands of law-enforcement people including Border Patrol. You put them in different areas and you have them doing different things, law enforcement and Border Patrol. And I want to thank law enforcement and I want to thank Border Patrol and I want to thank ICE. ICE is abused by the press, and by the Democrats, by the way, we are going to be taking care of ICE. We talk about the new bill. We’re going to be taking care of ICE. They wanted to get rid of ICE. And the bill is just the opposite of that. A lot of good things happen.

So that’s the story. We want to have a safe country. I ran on a very simple slogan: Make America great again. If you are going to have drugs pouring across the border, if you are going to have human traffickers pouring across the border in areas where we have no protection, in areas where we don’t have a barrier, then—very hard to make America great again. But we have done a fantastic job, but we haven’t been given the equipment. We haven’t been given the walls.

And in the bill, by the way, they didn’t even fight us on most of the stuff—ports of entry. We have so much money we don’t know what to do with it. I don’t know what to do with all the money they are giving us. It’s crazy. The only place they don’t want to give us much money—$1.375 billion, it sounds like a lot, but it is not so much, although we are putting it to much better use than it used to be. A lot of the past administrations, they had, it was easy to get, they didn’t build. They didn’t do what they could have done. It would have been great. It would have been great to have done it earlier, but I was a little new to the job and a little new to the profession. And we had a little disappointment for the first year and a half, people that should have stepped up did not step up. They didn’t step up and they should have, it would have been easy. Not that easy, but it would have been a lot easier. But some people didn’t step up. But we are stepping up now.

So we have a chance of getting close to $8 billion; whether it is $8 billion or $2 billion or $1.5 billion, it’s gonna build a lot of wall. We’re getting it done. We are right now in construction with wall in some of the most important areas, and we have renovated a tremendous amount of wall making it just as good as new. That’s where a lot of the money has been spent, on renovation. In fact, we were restricted to renovating, which is okay. But we are going to run out of areas that we can renovate pretty soon, so, and we need new wall.

So I want to thank everybody for being here. I want to thank, in particular, the angel moms and dads for being here. Thank you very much. We have great respect for you. The real country, our real country, the people that really love our country, they love you. So I just want you to know that, I know how hard you fight and I know how hard a fight you’re having.

I also want to thank all of the law enforcement for the job you do. Believe me, our country loves you and they respect you greatly. And we are giving you a lot of surplus. We are giving you surplus military equipment, which a lot of people didn’t like giving previous to this administration, but hundreds of millions of dollars of surplus equipment. And as we get it, as you know, we send it down, and you have much better protection. But I really appreciate you being here.

So the order is signed, and I’ll sign the final papers as soon as I get into the Oval Office, and we will have a national emergency, and we will then be sued, and they will sue us in the Ninth Circuit, even though it shouldn’t be there, and we will possibly get a bad ruling and then we will get another bad ruling, and then we will end up in the Supreme Court, and hopefully we will get a fair shake and win in the Supreme Court, just like the ban—they sued us in the Ninth Circuit, and we lost, and then we lost in the appellate division, and then we went to the Supreme Court and we won.

And it was very interesting because yesterday they were talking about the ban, because we have a ban that is very helpful, Madam Secretary, is that right? Without the ban, we would have a bigger problem. We have a ban on certain areas, certain countries, depending on what’s going on in the world, and we won. But somebody said, “President Trump lost on the ban.” He was right. I lost at the lower court. He didn’t say that we ultimately won at the United States Supreme Court. They don’t want to say that, they didn’t want to go that far. They were saying how I lost, the person sitting right up here. “Donald Trump lost on the ban.” Yeah, I did, and then I lost a second time, and you should have said that, too. Then it went to the Supreme Court and I won. Didn’t want to take it that far. But we won on the ban and we won on other things too.

The probably easiest one to win is on declaring a national emergency, because we are declaring it for virtual invasion purposes—drugs, traffickers, and gangs. And one of the things, just to finish, we have removed thousands of MS-13 gang monsters, thousands. They are out of this country. We take them out by the thousands. And they are monsters. Okay. Do you have any questions?


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