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[benjipwns]

I don't think ABC News would send me this kind of content anyway: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/inside-the-convincing-fake-trump-pee-tape.html

The Pee Tape Is Real, but It’s Fake

There’s a video going around that no one’s really talking about. What makes it most unreal is how believable it is.

Before we go any further, bear this in mind, so no one gets confused: The pee tape is fake. This pee tape, anyway. Whether this pee tape is the pee tape—perhaps you’ve heard of it as the “piss tape,” or the “pee-pee tape,” or the “golden shower video”—is one of the things that are still unclear about it.

But it is very far from being an obvious fake. There are a number of reasons to believe that this pee tape would be real, and there are also a number of reasons to believe it is not. One reason to believe it is real is that it does exist—an extremely lifelike, extremely grainy video clip depicting Trump in the presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow, while two nude or near-nude women cavort in front of him—and you can watch it right now. The more I tried to prove to myself it wasn’t real, the less confident I became in my own skepticism.

Could it be the real tape?

Every few months, after I’d dismissed it in my mind as an obvious fraud, someone new would bring the tape up to me. Usually they’d just seen it and wanted to see what I thought. I would retread my initial suspicions and explain that, while it must be a fake, it’s certainly a very good fake. And each time, I’d walk away a little less convinced.

After all, it’s true the carpeting looks too dark, but so does the whole room. Surely even light carpeting might look gloomy under those conditions. And on closer inspection, is that really a vest the Trump figure is wearing? Or is it just part of his shirt? Is the man in the chair even wearing a tie at all?

It’s impossible to say with any certainty. Nor, even if it is a vest, is it is completely inconceivable that at some point on Nov. 9, 2013, after being photographed in his suit, Trump might have changed into white-tie.

And just as the real Donald Trump did on the night of the pageant, the Trump-like figure in the clip appears to be wearing French cuffs. While the video is too blurry (conveniently so) for any authoritative comparison, the figure’s cufflinks do certainly appear similar.

In the interest of transparency, I should note this piece of evidence has been met with mixed reactions. One friend told me, “It definitely looks like it could be the same cufflink,” while another said, “Oh no, you’ve lost your mind.” This point remains inconclusive.

More convincing than the fuzzy accessories, though, are the figure’s mannerisms. For instance, near the end of the 25-second version of the video, we see the Trump figure beginning to type on what appears to be his phone.

[benjipwns]

https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/tulsi-gabbards-opposition-is-kai-kaheles-opportunity/

https://twitter.com/kaikahele/status/1176879363016384512

[kingv]

That fake piss tape video doesn’t even really look like him.

It’s like 100% definitely not him, and includes no peeing.

[benjipwns]

yeah, but we can't dismiss the possibility that if the universe had entirely different circumstances that the one she's watched thousands of times might actually be real, after all, isn't it possible? even theoretically?

[benjipwns]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/the-strongest-2020-democrat-john-delaney-deadlifts-350-lbs-and-works-out-constantly-in-iowa-hotels

Delaney is not a "maniac about diet," he said. Burgers, hot dogs, and pork chops at the Iowa State Fair don't pose any threat to his routine.

“It's not like this is the biggest part of my life where I spend an enormous amount of time thinking about it,” Delaney said of his fitness level.

Nevertheless, he is consistent.

He starts his days with a Core Power protein shake and insists that the daily protein bar he consumes contains at least 20 grams of protein.

Delaney’s fitness routine revolves around finding time for a gym workout, usually in the morning, hopefully everyday, but inevitably four to five times per week.

“I definitely have a mindset that I want to do something every day,” Delaney said. “It isn't upsetting if I don’t, but I am definitely in a better mood when I work out.”

Delaney's dedication in exercising on the campaign trail once led him, via a Google search for a Vegas gym, to a nearly forgotten fitness center near the baggage claim of McCarran International Airport.

The gym, Zero Level Fitness, used to be a Planet Fitness open to the public, but after the Sept. 11 attacks, it became exclusive to airport employees and travelers willing to show a boarding pass and pay $10.

“I was the only human being there other than the employee checking people in,” he said.

He’s identified three hotels near the Des Moines airport with sufficient gyms containing cardio equipment and machines: the Hilton, the AC Hotel by Marriott, and the DoubleTree.

Delaney prefers treadmills to running outdoors because he’s usually unfamiliar with his surroundings.

He eschews the bench press and squats, fearful of getting injured — he has four daughters to keep up with, in addition to the campaign.

Delaney’s workout routine is basic. He is a gym specialist who occasionally plays tennis and makes sure to get good sleep, about 7 hours a night, to fuel recovery.

During a whirl around the basement gym of his suburban Maryland campaign headquarters this month, Delaney performed sets of lat pulldowns, chest presses, and bicep curls. He wore day clothes during the test run with the Washington Examiner, sporting a collared shirt and jeans fitted with a Georgetown University belt, representing his law school alma mater.

On the road, he carries his gym clothes in the same tote bag he’s had since 2000, labeled with the commercial lending company he founded that year, Capital Source. The bag contains a T-shirt (not the cutoff kind exposing his arms), sneakers, and shorts.

“I left that part of my Jersey roots behind,” Delaney, who was raised in northern New Jersey, said of his reluctance to work out with arms bared.

Delaney also works out without a soundtrack because he prefers silence and because music distracts him from checking his phone for updates from his staff.

Delaney’s short but consistent and efficient routine is a good one for someone in his position, according to one fitness expert.

“I always think about getting old as you are fighting back the tide,” Delaney said. “But it keeps coming. I try to exercise to fight the tide. It would definitely be part of my White House routine. And I bet they have a really good gym in the White House.”

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/LovesTheBern/status/1177042147595309061

why can't this bitch just say no. it's such an easy win to show you won't be like the same old neoliberal establishment and she turns into a bumbling idiot. 

Every time I start to want to like Warren, I remember this stuff.

[benjipwns]

Although it's admittingly a stupid thing she should not have done, the Native American thing is an example of why the field of who gets into politics has so greatly narrowed. It's somewhat similar for stuff like the yearbook Michael Jackson blackface of the Virginia Governor that captivated the world for 36 hours during a simpler time.

I'm not lamenting it really or anything but for a lot of people it discourages them (there have been studies for this in poli sci but I don't even recall a name for you while I'm waiting on Titanfall 2's matchmaking here sorry, something about the increase in share of lawyers and generic "business" men with I think doctors and journalists/newspaper people being the larger drops as a share) and one of the things with a character like Trump, or even a Hillary, is that there's such as sheer amount of it and lots of it questionable that people (voters) don't bother to believe any of it in a way they will hold Warren or someone accountable for the single transgression that a more public figure earns passes on multiple times.

This message paid for by No Labels.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Imagine biting on the attempt to talk about candidates family while trump and co are dismantling the us from the inside out.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/atmosphericblue/status/1177041516688052226

she's pulling a warren 

[BIONIC]

Still hot tho

[Nintex]

I don't think ABC News would send me this kind of content anyway: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/inside-the-convincing-fake-trump-pee-tape.html

The Pee Tape Is Real, but It’s Fake

There’s a video going around that no one’s really talking about. What makes it most unreal is how believable it is.

Before we go any further, bear this in mind, so no one gets confused: The pee tape is fake. This pee tape, anyway. Whether this pee tape is the pee tape—perhaps you’ve heard of it as the “piss tape,” or the “pee-pee tape,” or the “golden shower video”—is one of the things that are still unclear about it.

But it is very far from being an obvious fake. There are a number of reasons to believe that this pee tape would be real, and there are also a number of reasons to believe it is not. One reason to believe it is real is that it does exist—an extremely lifelike, extremely grainy video clip depicting Trump in the presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow, while two nude or near-nude women cavort in front of him—and you can watch it right now. The more I tried to prove to myself it wasn’t real, the less confident I became in my own skepticism.

Could it be the real tape?

Every few months, after I’d dismissed it in my mind as an obvious fraud, someone new would bring the tape up to me. Usually they’d just seen it and wanted to see what I thought. I would retread my initial suspicions and explain that, while it must be a fake, it’s certainly a very good fake. And each time, I’d walk away a little less convinced.

After all, it’s true the carpeting looks too dark, but so does the whole room. Surely even light carpeting might look gloomy under those conditions. And on closer inspection, is that really a vest the Trump figure is wearing? Or is it just part of his shirt? Is the man in the chair even wearing a tie at all?

It’s impossible to say with any certainty. Nor, even if it is a vest, is it is completely inconceivable that at some point on Nov. 9, 2013, after being photographed in his suit, Trump might have changed into white-tie.

And just as the real Donald Trump did on the night of the pageant, the Trump-like figure in the clip appears to be wearing French cuffs. While the video is too blurry (conveniently so) for any authoritative comparison, the figure’s cufflinks do certainly appear similar.

In the interest of transparency, I should note this piece of evidence has been met with mixed reactions. One friend told me, “It definitely looks like it could be the same cufflink,” while another said, “Oh no, you’ve lost your mind.” This point remains inconclusive.

More convincing than the fuzzy accessories, though, are the figure’s mannerisms. For instance, near the end of the 25-second version of the video, we see the Trump figure beginning to type on what appears to be his phone.

Putin had such a fake tape made against a prosecutor and political rival going after Yeltsin for corruption.

[Trent Dole]

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177177706729017344

Lmao

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/atmosphericblue/status/1177041516688052226

she's pulling a warren 

cooper looks so meek infront of this Goddess.

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EPA everyone.

Minnesota and New Mexico would become the 11th and 12th states to adopt California’s zero-emission vehicle (ZEV) mandate and the 14th and 15th states to adopt its tailpipe standards. Colorado said in August it would adopt the ZEV mandate.

The Obama-era rules called for a fleetwide fuel efficiency average of 46.7 miles per gallon by 2025, with average annual increases of about 5%, compared with 37 mpg by 2026 under the Trump administration’s preferred option to freeze requirements.

The Trump administration escalated its fight on Tuesday with California by threatening to withdraw billions of dollars in federal highway funds because of poor California air quality.

"Your air is too dirty, stop trying to make it clean or youll loose out on funds!"




https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-emissions-california-minnesota/minnesota-new-mexico-to-adopt-california-vehicle-emissions-rules-idUSKBN1WA2SJ

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177201488688537602

[Brehvolution]

Triggered! 

[Joe Molotov]

Very cool and very presidential.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

It's always fun watching the gop congress people like nunes trying to outsmart people in the intelligence community.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

About five minutes, and nunes is already frustrated with the maguire and being hostile.

what a fucking baffoon.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/_SemaHernandez_/status/1177211687390384128

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1176902431969546242

 

[Joe Molotov]

Sounds like part of the complaint, besides the call itself, is WH officials routinely classifying Trump's communications as top secret just because they were so embarrassing. 

[kingv]

Embarrassing or contained illegal conduct.

[Madrun Badrun]

So there was only one phone call?

[Joe Molotov]

Embarrassing or contained illegal conduct.

embarrassingly illegal

[Brehvolution]

So there was only one phone call?

1 of 8

[Nintex]

Part of what was in the complaint was not in the call.

So either they forged the transcript or the information the whistle blower got was taken out of context because it was second hand information.
The real question is, why would it be forbidden for Rudy Giuliani to travel overseas and meet with people?

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1177233890215219206

[kingv]

Part of what was in the complaint was not in the call.

So either they forged the transcript or the information the whistle blower got was taken out of context because it was second hand information.
The real question is, why would it be forbidden for Rudy Giuliani to travel overseas and meet with people?

It’s the context in which he’s doing it.

[Steve Contra]

I wish Peter Sellers were alive. He would make a great Rudy Giuliani bumbling around Eastern Europe playing spy at the behest of Donald Trump (played by an aged Chris Farley if I'm doing fantasy casting).

[Nintex]

The Trump of Wall Street 

https://twitter.com/kaylatausche/status/1177274446270337024

[Great Rumbler]

Part of what was in the complaint was not in the call.

So either they forged the transcript or the information the whistle blower got was taken out of context because it was second hand information.
The real question is, why would it be forbidden for Rudy Giuliani to travel overseas and meet with people?

There were multiple calls. The White House only released the "transcript" (actually a memo of notes, not a transcript at all) of one of the calls (I believe the second call) that pretty blatantly implicated Trump (and Barr, Rudy by extension). Even if there wasn't $400M in defense aid being held up at the time of these calls, Trump asking the Ukrainian president to search for and find dirt on his top political rival ahead of an election, to the extent of saying he was going to have his personal attorney and the United States Attorney General call and get involved is highly irregular and bizarre at best, highly illegal at worst. The AG being implicated as being involved or intended to be involved being the one who attempted to shut down the investigation is also an issue (let alone not recusing himself from the whole thing). Bill Barr is very likely going to be a witness in whatever comes out of this, and he tried to shut down the investigation before it really began.

Rudy's role in this being an issue is because he claims he's working on behalf of the State Department despite not being in the State Department at all, and working as Donald Trump's personal lawyer is not the same as being White House counsel.

Then the White House moved the actual transcripts of the call to a different, locked off server used only for conversations that involve threats to national security, but the Trump administration has used it multiple times to hide things that might be politically or criminally questionable. The administration tried to get the investigation into the complaint shut down, and would have successfully had this not been leaked to the public. To start it off, his staff didn't want him to take the fucking call to begin with because MULTIPLE members of his staff were afraid he'd do something like this.


To top it off, Trump immediately called the whistleblower a partisan hack and encouraged attacks on this unknown person's character, and just a bit ago implied that we should get back to killing "spies". And this is all ignoring that this particular call took place one day after the Mueller Report, which found at least 10 charges of obstruction of justice to have been committed by Trump and some more nebulous acceptance of election interference of his campaign. Trump actually mentioned this IN THE CALL, insulting Mueller in a tangent, then shortly after on a TV interview from the oval office said he'd accept information on political opponents from foreign agents/governments without contacting the FBI.



But yeah no big deal.

lmao trump the master does it again!!!

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[/nintex]

[close]

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1177284709233111040

We will soon get to see that if Trump shoots someone on 5th avenue he doesn't lose any voters.

[Rman]

It seems like people are watching two different movies on this Ukraine stuff.  Dems see impeachable offenses. Republicans don't.

If no side will concede, the political apparatus of impeachment seems like a dead-end anyway.

[Brehvolution]

Impeachment won't succeed and that's the point. The impeachment inquiry is to show the American people the level of corruption and the dereliction of duty of this administration. When senate republicans cover for trump, Dems can hammer that cover on the campaign trail into 2020.

[Nintex]

With Ukraine Trump and Rudy stepped on a landmine. You can grift in Israel, take hand-outs from the Saudi's and even launder some cash in Cyprus but politicians and other powerful people from all around the globe have skeletons in the closet in Ukraine that they don't want others to find.
It is quite possibly the most corrupt country on the planet.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy

“I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that’s close to a spy,” he continued. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”

[Joe Molotov]

In the old days, we used to have people in the CIA that knew how to handle presidents that got out of line too.

[shosta]

It seems like people are watching two different movies on this Ukraine stuff.  Dems see impeachable offenses. Republicans don't.

If no side will concede, the political apparatus of impeachment seems like a dead-end anyway.

Mitt Romney said he would impeach

[Cauliflower Of Love]

It seems like people are watching two different movies on this Ukraine stuff.  Dems see impeachable offenses. Republicans don't.

If no side will concede, the political apparatus of impeachment seems like a dead-end anyway.

Mitt Romney said he would impeach

[kingv]

It seems like people are watching two different movies on this Ukraine stuff.  Dems see impeachable offenses. Republicans don't.

If no side will concede, the political apparatus of impeachment seems like a dead-end anyway.

Mitt Romney said he would impeach

Do. Not. Fuck. With. Mormons.

Their wives asses are too curvy and nice and their kids too wel-behaves.

They will fucking break you.

[Occam]

Basically what I said yesterday, but in more detail:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/26/acting-director-national-intelligence-just-showed-how-corrupt-trump-administration-is/

[Rman]

Impeachment won't succeed and that's the point. The impeachment inquiry is to show the American people the level of corruption and the dereliction of duty of this administration. When senate republicans cover for trump, Dems can hammer that cover on the campaign trail into 2020.

I honestly think people don't care at this point.  Impeachment overall is not a popular move.  It's a massive waste of resources. Nixon was the only President that left office due to impending proceedings. And the only reason he did was that he started losing support with Republicans.

[Occam]

It doesn't matter if it's popular or not, it's a matter of principle. If Trump isn't impeached (even if he isn't removed from office), then no President should ever be impeached again.

[Rman]

Impeachment won't succeed and that's the point. The impeachment inquiry is to show the American people the level of corruption and the dereliction of duty of this administration. When senate republicans cover for trump, Dems can hammer that cover on the campaign trail into 2020.

I honestly think people don't care at this point.  Impeachment overall is not a popular move.

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1177319183987748869

In close races, this could hurt Dems. Not every place is NYC/SF/LA/Seattle. 

[Occam]

It's impeachment or capitulation. Either you impeach the braindead corrupt nepotist fucker or you admit that American democracy has failed and that the president is basically a monarch.

[EightBitNate]

Impeachment won't succeed and that's the point. The impeachment inquiry is to show the American people the level of corruption and the dereliction of duty of this administration. When senate republicans cover for trump, Dems can hammer that cover on the campaign trail into 2020.

When it gets to the senate and then nothing happens, I will be shocked if the narrative amongst the general public doesn’t become “they tried to impeach him but couldn’t so he must be innocent”. I can’t be the only one who sees this ending badly for dems, even if I do want the impeachment proceedings to continue.

[shosta]

It might hurt Dems in some places, but not impeaching hurts Dems in more places.

[Occam]

It might hurt Dems in some places, but not impeaching hurts Dems in more places.

And America.

[shosta]

occam, crack a joke

[Occam]

I bet when your coworkers ask you "how are things?" you start talking about climate change and invading brazil

Nah, I usually talk about doing your mom.

[VomKriege]

On principle it is the right choice. For politics time will only tell but I don't share the pessimism. I'd imagine they could "stall" inquiries up to the election and not sent the actual impeachment to Senate (though I think there's some value in having the Senate being forced to own this if they dismiss it), if you're worried about this. Let's be honest for a second who doesn't expect there's more shit to be uncovered every step of the way ?

[Occam]

Not even a like, shosta? There's just no pleasing you, unlike your mom.

[shosta]

It's a start, occam. We'll work on it.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1177331046351851520

Hilldawg wooof woooff!!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Even the CNN social media graphics guy supports Trump over Hillary 

[close]

[Occam]

The thing about Trump's presidency is that it seems to make most of us numb and apathetic. The damage he has done will be lasting. I am somewhat surprised I am still able to feel anger and revulsion when seeing his stupid face.

[Nintex]

Donald Trump is the reckoning of neo-liberalism
The chickens came home to roost.



The personification of the 'American Dream', the political commentator when you needed one,
the easily convinced donor for your political campaign and the TV clown to keep the masses occupied.

Little did the establishment suspect that in order to escape the inevitable pitchforks he knew would come after him,
he'd side with the very same neglected working classes they had ignored, belittled and humiliated for years.

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1177324882159374350

[OnlyRegret]

It's a start, occam. We'll work on it.

He's doing his best

[kingv]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that the Cherokee did not eat Mayonnaise.