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« Reply #8525 on: August 24, 2017, 10:17:32 PM »
:drudge
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/24/did-enough-bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-for-trump-to-cost-clinton-the-election/
What kinds of Sanders voters supported Trump?

Perhaps the most important feature of Sanders-Trump voters is this: They weren’t really Democrats to begin with.

Of course, we know that many Sanders voters did not readily identify with the Democratic Party as of 2016, and Schaffner found that Sanders-Trump voters were even less likely to identify as Democrats. Sanders-Trump voters didn’t much approve of Obama either.

In fact, this was true well before 2016. In the VOTER Survey, we know how Sanders-Trump voters voted in 2012, based on an earlier interview in November 2012. Only 35 percent of them reported voting for Obama, compared with 95 percent of Sanders-Clinton voters. In other words, Sanders-Trump voters were predisposed to support Republicans in presidential general elections well before Trump’s candidacy.
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« Reply #8526 on: August 24, 2017, 10:46:12 PM »
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-progressive-activists-are-leading-the-trump-resistance-w499221
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The Indivisible movement has emerged as the liberal answer to the Tea Party. But its creation was a viral accident. In the aftermath of Trump's election, husband and wife Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg – earnest thirtysomethings with experience on Capitol Hill – saw friends and family eager to resist the new administration but misfiring in their efforts to apply political pressure. They put too much faith in online petitions or one-off phone calls to House Speaker Paul Ryan's national office. "They didn't fully understand how Congress works or how you could have real impact," Levin tells Rolling Stone.

Levin is a former staffer to Rep. Lloyd Doggett, an Austin Democrat who was one of the first members of Congress to feel the Tea Party's bite. Levin recalls watching how a "relatively small set of individuals spread throughout the country was able to stall – and in some cases defeat – a historically popular president's agenda." Tea Party tactics weren't revolutionary; they were Civics 101. Energized constituents tirelessly bird-dogged their own members of Congress. "Separate out the Tea Party's racism," Levin says, "and they were smart on strategy and tactics."

The couple began distilling do's and don'ts of congressional activism into a manual for citizens seeking to resist Republican rule in Washington. Levin – a freckled 32-year-old with close-cropped brown hair – wanted to "demystify the political and the policy process" and answer "nuts-and-bolts organizing questions like: How do you run a meeting? How do you create leadership? How do you structure action?"
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The Indivisible guide began, humbly, as a Google Doc, shared in mid-December via a tweetstorm from the couple's row house in Washington, D.C. With just a few hundred Twitter followers, Levin had little expectation the guide would go viral. But then the Google Doc crashed. And groups across the country began announcing themselves. "People started telling us, 'We got 20 people together, and we're Indivisible Roanoke' or 'We're Indivisible Auburn, Alabama,' " says Levin. Chapters proliferated in particular after the inauguration-weekend Women's March. Levin recalls that he and Greenberg faced an "unexpected choice" at the end of January. "We could say, 'Hey, we just put out a Google Doc – good luck to ya.' Or we could try to set up some kind of structure that supports that local leadership."

They launched a national Indivisible organization, offering guidance without micro-management. "These groups are fundamentally self-led," Levin insists. "We're not franchising out Indivisibles. You don't have to call yourself Subway and sell $5 foot-longs to be an Indivisible chain." Ganz sees the national Indivisible group providing crucial direction for its far-flung chapters. "Leadership is different than control," he says, adding that Indivisible is "equipping people with skills, and framing strategy – at the local level, the state level and the national level."
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Not every organization in the new constellation of resistance groups is ready to pledge allegiance to any candidate who puts a (D) after his or her name.

Our Revolution is waging a fight for the heart of the Democratic Party's platform. "Resistance is good," says Nina Turner, the group's new president. "But we have to go further than that. We have to plan for when power is back in the hands of progressives." This means backing politicians "who will push progressive issues once they get the people's power," she says. "Otherwise, what difference does it make?"
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Turner is a charismatic 49-year-old -African-American who served as minority whip in the Ohio State Senate. She took the reins of Our Revolution in June, replacing Sanders' former campaign manager. The Sanders movement has been criticized as a bastion of "Bernie bros" – younger white men with an alarming tendency toward misogyny. But with Turner at the helm, Our Revolution stands as a rare grassroots powerhouse led by a black woman.
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Turner says the guide star of the Democratic Party has to be brighter than putting "a check on Trump" – and calls the fight for Medicare for all "a foundational issue." She points bitterly to California, where Democratic leadership spiked single-payer legislation that could have passed without GOP support. "It wasn't the Russians. It wasn't the Republicans," Turner says. "The Democratic Assembly leader killed Medicare for all in California. How are we showing people that we're any different? That we're not controlled by the pharmaceutical and medical industry? That one example in California hasn't showed them that."

Our Revolution makes no apologies about taking its fight to the national party. Progressives cannot settle for "half measures," Turner says, and need to insist on "Democrats who really stand up for what it means to be a Democrat."

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« Reply #8527 on: August 24, 2017, 11:10:54 PM »
Almost Friday! Last week it was Bannon and Ichan.
Any guesses as to what news story they'll want to bury this week?
Next Friday will be huge, the Friday before a 3 day weekend? I bet something big goes down there.
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« Reply #8528 on: August 24, 2017, 11:55:16 PM »
:drudge
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/24/did-enough-bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-for-trump-to-cost-clinton-the-election/

This is one of the reasons we can't have nice things. The way liberals/progressives still want to fling shit at each other for perceived slights or being off-message, instead of mobilizing on how to fix the situation.

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« Reply #8529 on: August 25, 2017, 12:00:32 AM »
Almost Friday! Last week it was Bannon and Ichan.
Any guesses as to what news story they'll want to bury this week?
Next Friday will be huge, the Friday before a 3 day weekend? I bet something big goes down there.
Is there anyone high profile left to fire at this point? :doge
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/24/did-enough-bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-for-trump-to-cost-clinton-the-election/

This is one of the reasons we can't have nice things. The way liberals/progressives still want to fling shit at each other for perceived slights or being off-message, instead of mobilizing on how to fix the situation.
Oh yay more fighting over 2016.
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« Reply #8530 on: August 25, 2017, 08:54:54 AM »
Almost Friday! Last week it was Bannon and Ichan.
Any guesses as to what news story they'll want to bury this week?
Next Friday will be huge, the Friday before a 3 day weekend? I bet something big goes down there.
Is there anyone high profile left to fire at this point? :doge

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« Reply #8532 on: August 25, 2017, 11:17:52 AM »
Can someone explain to me the "Friday news dump thing?" Who exactly is trying to bury the story by releasing it on Friday?

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« Reply #8533 on: August 25, 2017, 11:31:10 AM »
Someone has never seen the West Wing, tisk tisk

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« Reply #8534 on: August 25, 2017, 11:39:20 AM »
No, I didn't watch the West Wing.

My point is that most of these big headlines aren't being released by any official. They're mostly scoops by big newspapers based on leaks, so why would big media outlets wait to release them on a friday when they would lose some of their momentum over the weekend?

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« Reply #8535 on: August 25, 2017, 11:46:10 AM »
No, I didn't watch the West Wing.

My point is that most of these big headlines aren't being released by any official. They're mostly scoops by big newspapers based on leaks, so why would big media outlets wait to release them on a friday when they would lose some of their momentum over the weekend?
White house doesn't release info on what would be a big scoop until Fridays so they'll get buried in the news cycle.
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« Reply #8536 on: August 25, 2017, 11:55:54 AM »
Like I said, the vast majority of the big bombshells that have come out on friday weren't released by the White House. The resignations, sure. But leaks about FBI investigations, clandestine meetings, etc. were scoops picked up by news agencies without any cooperation by the White House.

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« Reply #8537 on: August 25, 2017, 12:12:21 PM »
Like I said, the vast majority of the big bombshells that have come out on friday weren't released by the White House. The resignations, sure. But leaks about FBI investigations, clandestine meetings, etc. were scoops picked up by news agencies without any cooperation by the White House.
"Look, I'm not saying you can't publish the story. I'm just saying that it'd be a shame if access to white house personell was limited if it didn't come out on a Friday..."

Dude it happens in tech companies all the time, can't imagine it's any different in Washington.
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« Reply #8538 on: August 25, 2017, 12:16:01 PM »
Ah, sounds mildly illegal, but makes sense.

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« Reply #8539 on: August 25, 2017, 03:21:22 PM »
Any guesses as to what news story they'll want to bury this week?
Immigrants, it seems

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/901161424419991553

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« Reply #8540 on: August 25, 2017, 03:27:26 PM »
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« Reply #8541 on: August 25, 2017, 03:37:29 PM »
Man, anyone seen etoilet? I'm kinda worried about him. Running off when there's a mountain of evidence that makes him look stupid isn't in character for him. One could even say such behavior is a little... cowardly.
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« Reply #8542 on: August 25, 2017, 03:39:21 PM »
he's looking for a wheelbarrow to hand out all the Ls we're about to receive
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« Reply #8543 on: August 25, 2017, 03:44:40 PM »
Any guesses as to what news story they'll want to bury this week?
Immigrants, it seems

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/901161424419991553
:( My brother in law and sister in law depend on this :(

I'm honestly surprised it's lasted this long as I really expected them to kill it to get a cheap approval boost

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« Reply #8544 on: August 25, 2017, 03:45:36 PM »
What's DACA again?
Executive order by Obama that allowed certain illegal immigrants who came as children to get a social security number and work permit. 

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« Reply #8545 on: August 25, 2017, 03:46:45 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/politics/kasich-hickenlooper-2020-unity-ticket/index.html

Guys, here's the REAL NEWS that's getting buried today.

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« Reply #8546 on: August 25, 2017, 03:48:09 PM »
What's DACA again?
basically, it protects the children of illegal immigrants from deportation assuming they are in school (or graduated school) and haven't been convicted of any crimes. there's more to it than that but that's the basics. i think it was always set to expire at some point, so i think trump is just not renewing it.

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« Reply #8547 on: August 25, 2017, 03:57:17 PM »
What's DACA again?
basically, it protects the children of illegal immigrants from deportation assuming they are in school (or graduated school) and haven't been convicted of any crimes. there's more to it than that but that's the basics. i think it was always set to expire at some point, so i think trump is just not renewing it.

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Individual permits expire every 2 years, but my great state of Texas along with some other states have said they'll file suit against the government if Trump doesn't end it boxing him into a political corner.  Folks would still be able to work as long as their work permit is valid and USCIS can't overturn their files to ICE without them committing a crime AFAIK.  Hopefully there is some outrage from decent Americans that pushes a bill through Congress (I know there is already a bipartisan bill there) but there's no reason to really be optimistic.  They all go back to being fucked.

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« Reply #8548 on: August 25, 2017, 05:30:44 PM »


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Oh yeah, collecting millions from billionaires on Wall Street to release a book about the election she stole and then lost.

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« Reply #8549 on: August 25, 2017, 06:31:01 PM »


Told you they try bury the big news on Fridays.
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« Reply #8550 on: August 25, 2017, 06:46:06 PM »


Told you they try bury the big news on Fridays.


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« Reply #8551 on: August 25, 2017, 06:51:14 PM »
Alex thinks it might be about eight inches long, PD confirm/deny?

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« Reply #8552 on: August 25, 2017, 07:09:35 PM »
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« Reply #8553 on: August 25, 2017, 08:08:17 PM »
Trump using the hurricane as cover to sign the trans ban and pardon Sheriff Joe.  :doge
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« Reply #8554 on: August 25, 2017, 08:17:50 PM »
Trump is such coward a piece of shit. Using a natural disaster to make more suffering.

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« Reply #8555 on: August 25, 2017, 08:25:33 PM »
Gorka out...

next week on America the President pardons his family and business partners/staffers from impending legal troubles.

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« Reply #8556 on: August 25, 2017, 08:32:49 PM »
Gorka out...
Sad to see the New Trump™ and his War on Ideological Diversity in the White House.

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« Reply #8557 on: August 25, 2017, 08:47:14 PM »
That sheriff guy just got pardoned at 8pm EST on a Friday....hrm.....:doge
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« Reply #8558 on: August 25, 2017, 09:12:53 PM »
re: the discussion above about Friday News Dumps
Gorka would be it, kinda unexpected with little chatter beforehand and something the administration doesn't want to talk about

both the transgender ban and Sheriff Joe pardon they've been talking about doing for weeks, there were media assumptions that Trump went to Arizona to do the pardon at his big rally but got talked out of it (the White House started sending out talking points for the pardon the next day), and the administration probably wants to promote both as Trump winning yet again and handing out more L's

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« Reply #8559 on: August 25, 2017, 10:39:59 PM »
re: the discussion above about Friday News Dumps
Gorka would be it, kinda unexpected with little chatter beforehand and something the administration doesn't want to talk about

both the transgender ban and Sheriff Joe pardon they've been talking about doing for weeks, there were media assumptions that Trump went to Arizona to do the pardon at his big rally but got talked out of it (the White House started sending out talking points for the pardon the next day), and the administration probably wants to promote both as Trump winning yet again and handing out more L's

Seem Gorka went out in shitty terms, the WH house response doesn't even pretend to make it friendly.

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« Reply #8560 on: August 26, 2017, 12:12:40 AM »
It can be a bit of both. The core of their base who really cares about this stuff will see it but it won't dominate the news, which is what you'd want from issues like Arpaio and the trans ban (both polling and official reactions when Trump originally tweeted the ban were a lot more negative than they probably expected).

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« Reply #8561 on: August 26, 2017, 12:32:16 AM »
The Arpaio thing has been the strangest to me because even like Hannity is struggling to spin it as a big win for Trump and before that it wasn't even this big of deal of culture war fight that I could tell especially since it was a fight with the Obama Administration. He was charged with contempt of court and not really facing jail time at all. But they've somehow collected millions in donations for his defense. And I suppose it distracts from the whole lack of Wall or anything else on that front.

Maybe I should take some solace in the fact that he's discovered and used the pardon/commutation power in the first six months of his Presidency unlike his recent predecessors, even if it is to get human garbage out of the equivalent of a serious traffic ticket, soft bigotry of low expectations man.

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« Reply #8562 on: August 26, 2017, 12:34:14 AM »
Then again I haven't been hanging out in the comment fever swamps as much lately so I'm out of the loop on a lot of prominent events. :doge

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« Reply #8563 on: August 26, 2017, 12:53:55 AM »
court system protecting the corrupt corporate elite yet again instead of overturning the fraudulent election results and ordering a grand jury to investigate the seth rich murder
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« Reply #8564 on: August 26, 2017, 01:17:46 AM »
No way buddy, this is America, we don't stand for manipulating our reality shows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950s_quiz_show_scandals


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« Reply #8565 on: August 26, 2017, 02:56:22 AM »
Smart, fat ass, well educated, classy and has a BBC! Michelle Obama GOAT first lady! :salute
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« Reply #8566 on: August 26, 2017, 12:32:06 PM »


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« Reply #8567 on: August 26, 2017, 12:48:59 PM »
If plantation owners were racists, why were 100% of their slaves black?

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« Reply #8568 on: August 26, 2017, 05:28:54 PM »
If plantation owners were racists, why were 100% of their slaves black?

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So the plantation owners were obviously not racist.
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« Reply #8569 on: August 26, 2017, 07:20:22 PM »
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« Reply #8570 on: August 26, 2017, 07:54:46 PM »
i'm not a major football fan like with basketball or anything but wasn't it the NFL (or was it the AFL? which i think had more lax rules in general regarding signing players) where one of the first really integrated teams still had an openly racist owner but he recognized the market inefficiency because "them colored boys can run" due to their special African genetics

i know Bill Veeck is now thought to maybe have come to a similar conclusion about the negro leagues being a place to raid for cheap talent since other owners wouldn't touch them and that he later embellished lots of the story about how he wanted to break the color line (along with every other story)

all that nonsense aside, i don't know how anyone can read anything about NFL owners and not conclude they're at least 70% Vile Cowards™ just from reading about their meetings and everything in the last couple years regarding stuff like L.A. and so on :lol

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« Reply #8571 on: August 26, 2017, 07:58:06 PM »
the non-Steyn below replacement level guest host for Rush was ranting about those players, "now they're calling it 'taking a knee', who's ever heard of that? like it's an actual thing? they say they're praying during the anthem, but everyone knows you stand during an anthem, it's not just in America everywhere does it, but now they're 'taking a knee' and praying during it? sounds like a made up ritual to me" :doge

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Confederacy of Dunces
« Reply #8572 on: August 26, 2017, 10:28:25 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/25/exclusive-low-level-white-house-staffer-inflates-credentials-to-lie-about-dr-sebastian-gorkas-resignation-to-press/
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Kelly Sadler, a low-level staffer in the White House, lied about her credentials to push inaccurate leaked information to the press about the resignation of Dr. Sebastian Gorka from the administration.
In an email to a number of people in the media, Sadler opens up by saying the email is for “BACKGROUND PURPOSES ONLY.” That text is written in bright red, and bolded. The headline of the email is “Background on Sebastian Gorka.”

In the body of the email, Sadler then writes to media figures covering the resignation of Dr. Gorka: “From a White House Official: ‘Sebastian Gorka did not resign, but I can confirm he no longer works at the White House.’”

She rounds out the email to media elites by pleading: “No attribution to me, please. Senior White House official only.”

Sadler’s claim that she is a “Senior White House official” is not true. She is not a “Senior White House official.” She is a low-level press staffer, and a commissioned officer as a special assistant to the president.

In addition, her claim that Gorka “did not resign” is also untrue. Gorka sent the president a detailed resignation letter, as multiple media outlets have reported.

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Former White House aide Sebastian Gorka said Saturday he will return to Breitbart News, reuniting him with longtime ally and ex-White House chief strategist Steve Bannon.

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« Reply #8573 on: August 26, 2017, 10:35:46 PM »
woah if true
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« Reply #8574 on: August 26, 2017, 10:40:18 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/901579350662938624

I like how this tweet seems to imply that cooperation between local, state, and federal government created a record amount of rainfall.

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« Reply #8575 on: August 26, 2017, 10:45:05 PM »
teamwork makes the white supremacist's dream work

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« Reply #8576 on: August 27, 2017, 07:07:10 AM »
I read an article regarding recent stuff that led to a link that led to another thing to an extensive article that led to me looking up something else and so on and it led to me putting the 1991 Louisiana Gubernatorial Debate on, which was the infamous "Vote for the Crook, It's Important" election in which three time and pretty much well known corrupt Governor Edwin Edwards and David Duke got into the runoff from hell, with incumbent Governor Buddy Roemer third and so eliminated.

Basically, David Duke at the time was saying he was a born-again Christian and no longer believed in any of that white supremacy stuff not even towards the direction he moved shortly thereafter to his "race realism" white supremacy. He runs pretty much as a Pat Robertson type Christian conservative except for the most fascinating thing in both this debate and the pre-runoff one is that he's more or less running as a proto-Green Party candidate otherwise, well, not the Jill Stein type, but the local type that wants to literally ban oil practically. His platform seems to be that he's a Christian Captain Planet, oh, and he wants to cut taxes.

The only real hint of his past and future white supremacist self is that he talks about preserving our culture, which like his opposition to racial quotas is more or less a standard GOP position at the time and even a predominant one in much of the Democratic Party. (Also, an unconstitutional form of affirmative action.) Dude is very slick in a way that I dunno, the current President of the United States and his former bffs have not been at times. It helps that this is Louisiana so nobody wants to go digging into the past about racism so all the candidates give him benefit of the doubt until this debate.

One of the journalists at the debate is a black man who basically asks him "why shouldn't I be afraid of you for being part of the Klan and all that shit?" and Duke sorta goes "that's a cheap shot, you're the real racist for mentioning it", somebody clipped out the part which is pretty intense for a political debate: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4585511/david-duke-gets-slammed-racism

I clipped out an amusing two minute segment near the end where, as an example of his Green candidacy, Duke first talks about how much of a toxic hellhole Louisiana is and how he's going to clean it up and that's all he cares about (except for God he forgets which he manages to get back in for his closing statement)...then the same reporter as before asks him about his lack of paying taxes, his using the pseudonym Mohammed X to write racist pamphlets, and another to write sexual materials for some reason: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4680740/david-duke-mohammed-x

From wikipedia, this was then President Bush's statement on the election:
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When someone has a long record, an ugly record, of racism and bigotry, that record simply cannot be erased by the glib rhetoric of a political campaign. So I believe David Duke is an insincere charlatan. I believe he's attempting to hoodwink the voters of Louisiana. I believe he should be rejected for what he is and what he stands for.

Lastly, because why not, it's not like I'm not benji-ing it up in here, here's Duke announcing, less than a month after he got crushed in a state Gubernatorial race that he's going to challenge President Bush for the 1992 Republican nomination: https://www.c-span.org/video/?23153-1/duke-announcement  (It would be another fourteen years before someone attempted to fail their way up to the GOP nomination.)

And here he is a few months later after receiving no delegates (in a race that Pat Buchanan got enough that he got to give a primetime RNC speech) announcing that he won't run as a spoiler third party candidate and essentially giving what would become the Trump 2016 stump speech: https://www.c-span.org/video/?25722-1/duke-withdrawal
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We do need trade, obviously; no nation can survive without trade. But it's got to be fair trade -- not necessarily free trade but fair trade. We've got to have a policy in terms of our own borders to protect the integrity of our borders. Right now America is being made over. We're losing the integrity of our society. Our children are going to be growing up the strangers in their own land, in their own country.
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And we've got to begin to work to protect the consensus that creates America. What is that consensus? The consensus is a common language. And that basic standard is being cut down and brought down across America. In some parts of this country today, you go into a public school you'll find Spanish as the primary language of instruction. In some parts of America right now this morning you could go, and if you can't speak Spanish you can't do some basic business. We're losing the foundations of the country. We're becoming Balkanized.

We have massive immigration coming in, and massive illegal immigration coming in. Our government hasn't even the will to protect this country from the massive numbers of illegals across our border illegally. And they often overburden our social welfare system, add to our crime problems -- look at the gangs we have across America, and most of these gangs aren't Americans. Most of the gangs come in from the immigration. And we find this continued and increased across this country repeatedly. It's cost us jobs, it's cost us welfare monies, it's cost us crime, it's cost us overloading our medical system because all the people coming in, it's hurt our educational system, and it's even affecting the culture of the country.

Western civilization can't go. We've got to protect it. And to do that, we've got to protect the people who have the heritage of Western civilization. It doesn't mean suppressing anybody, because I believe in equal rights for every American. That's one of the principles the country was founded upon. But to show you the disposession that's taken place of the American majority, the American majority no longer has equal rights. In fact, we're second class citizens in our own country.
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In South Africa right now -- a lot of liberals are talking about South Africa and saying, well, South Africa has got to have black majority rule. Would any of those liberals in America say that America has got to have white majority rule, and use those words? Would any of them say that and use those words in America? We have a double standard of racism. The political correctness that's running this country has got to end. We've got to speak frankly and openly. And I believe my participation in the American political process has helped that process.
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In this, our nation's capital, we're in Washington, DC, I read an article from the New York Times which stated 42 percent of the black males in this city are in some sort of trouble with the law, either in jail, on probation or parole -- 42 percent. That's damaging to them, it's damaging to our community, it's damaging to our nation. And this is a product of this massive welfare system that's now out of control in this country.

We're encouraging people to have illegitmate children, not being responsible in that. We're encouraging people not to work. We're allowing drugs to pervade the social welfare system, to control public housing, control many of our cities. You know, we're not giving impetus anymore on the other side of the coin in terms of the welfare system in America. We've got to change that.

We've also got to be concerned about demographics and international considerations. And we have right now massive numbers of American companies who are going bankrupt and Americans who are losing their jobs because of the new world order, as presented by President Bush, and certainly endorsed by liberal Democrats such as Clinton. And what is this new world order policy? Basically it's sublimating the interests and the values of the United States of America for this gossamer new world order concept.
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Right now this world is in crisis -- economic, social, political and and ecologic (sic). We have an ecological crisis right now. The first world nations are beginning to address the problems of pollution, for instance. Right now the third world is not. And now we're shifting our productive capacity from the first world every day to nations like Brazil, nations like Mexico, that pollute freely. And this planet cannot continue to exist to survive unless we begin to protect our environment. If the Amazon rain forest burns down, all of us will suffer, here in the United States and Europe and all over this planet. And yet right now we have open trade policies with Brazil. We should be waging economic war on Brazil, with as much vigor as we did against Saddam Hussein in terms of his political corruption and physical corruption as far as the environmental corruption that's taking place in the Amazon rain forest until Brazil acts to defend this precious resource in the world.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Confederacy of Dunces
« Reply #8577 on: August 27, 2017, 02:23:35 PM »
Maybe Trump shouldn't be bragging on Twitter before the end of the storm there. Just sayin'
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« Reply #8578 on: August 27, 2017, 07:56:43 PM »
Maybe Trump shouldn't be bragging on Twitter before the end of the storm there. Just sayin'
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/901942677461229569

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« Reply #8579 on: August 27, 2017, 08:24:54 PM »
Noticed Obama tweeted out Red Cross info and realized the president hasn't tweeted anything people can call or donate to. What a time, lads.
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