US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Brehvolution]

The president of United Steelworkers Local 227, Scott Sarge, stood up and explained that his father lost his job during the ’80s due to imports coming in. He noted that his father’s “story didn’t end” while thanking the president for the opportunity presented to his workers and union.

“Your father Herman is looking down,” Trump said. “he’s very proud of you.”

“He’s still alive,” Sarge responded.

Saving face, the president explained that Sarge’s father would be “even more proud” of him.

 

edit: fuck, beaten

[Boredfrom]

Guessing the market isn't going crazy because of the Canada+Mexico exemptions but apparently Trump had some reckless comments about NAFTA negotiations and leverage. We'll see tomorrow.

That still worries me. But he has the big problem that the Mexican president cannot afford looking weak either, regardless of stuff like this. People here are going to eat him and his party alive if they let Trump "a win".

He's the president of fucking Mexico, which is ran by drug cartels.

Although in some sense we did trade a box of cigars for Manhattan with the natives and then sold it to the British   
He's already weak. 

 

You guys are not exactly blameless from many problems that Mexico has. People  here already blamed NAFTA for everything, so a shittier NAFTA is not going to get people happy here.

Our Tulip trade is pretty one sided but I don't think the Dutch have caused many of the problems Mexico faces today.

Talking about the US, obviously.

Do you think US is blameless for a lot of bad stuff in Latin America, for that matter?

Although in some sense we did trade a box of cigars for Manhattan with the natives and then sold it to the British   

That is the European way, my dude.

Dont get me wrong, we are assholes around here, but people are not generally thrilled to be in fear of Cartels or having a shitty goverment.

[Mandark]

It's weird talking to liberals who 1) do the ethical consumer thing, 2) argue that the war on drugs is harming Mexico and other developing countries, and 3) have no problem buying imported weed or coke.

Not saying that's a huge slice of the population, but they're out there.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/971871893216165888
 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/HansNichols/status/971882931374391296

 

[Nintex]

Someone managed to take a picture



If Trump somehow is lucky enough to see North Korea give up its nukes during his first term ....

Welp, that settles the next election right there.

https://twitter.com/NewsAlertHQ/status/971885336115769344

[Atramental]

Getting NK to give up their nukes? Simple.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

if that’s what is actually happening I will shit myself 

[close]

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/KariLakeFox10/status/971888470808342528

 

[Atramental]

*shitting myself*

[I'm a Puppy!]

Sooo....the announcement is TRUMP is going to go and negotiate with North Korea?
Now we know what those "RIP Earth" messages were about.

[Nintex]

Donald Trump is going to make a deal with North Korea.

This can't be happen. It just can't.

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The North Koreans have figured out that giving Trump 'another win' and proving his Art of the Deal bullshit, will allow him to stay on as a president for 3 terms. And that serves them better than nukes ever will.

[close]

They will make a movie and he will 'write' another book about this

"The greatest deal in history"

[Atramental]

We’re getting played like a goddamn fiddle, aren’t we?

[toku]

https://twitter.com/swin24/status/971892219237031937

[Boogie]

It's weird talking to liberals who 1) do the ethical consumer thing, 2) argue that the war on drugs is harming Mexico and other developing countries, and 3) have no problem buying imported weed or coke.

Not saying that's a huge slice of the population, but they're out there.

Well, maybe they make sure that their weed is sourced from the true north strong and free. 

[etiolate]

Human me: NK ending their nuclear program is important for humanity.

Internet me: OMG the reaction if Trump gets this trolololol

[Nintex]

Live stream here.

[Boredfrom]

Human me: NK ending their nuclear program is important for humanity.

Internet me: OMG the reaction if Trump gets this trolololol

The problem is requiring he going to Korea to negotiate.

Seems that NK is appealing to his showman side than genuine intentions of talks.

[Mandark]

"Remember that one day a couple years ago when everyone thought NK was going to give up its nukes?" - us, by the end of this month probably

[Atramental]

Welp.

[Nintex]

South Korean security people have said the following:

- Kim will immediatly stop testing and firing nukes
- He will not respond to the upcoming joint training
- Trump will meet with Kim Jong Un by May.

 

[etiolate]

The White House montage on video game violence

Solution for Schools: More Tea Sippers

[Optimus]

No Mortal Kombat fatalities? Amateurs

[FStop7]

South Korean security people have said the following:

- Kim will immediatly stop testing and firing nukes
- He will not respond to the upcoming joint training
- Trump will meet with Kim Jong Un by May.

 

Right, it's not like NK hasn't lied about this before or anything.

People are so goddamned gullible.

[Nintex]

South Korean security people have said the following:

- Kim will immediatly stop testing and firing nukes
- He will not respond to the upcoming joint training
- Trump will meet with Kim Jong Un by May.

 

Right, it's not like NK hasn't lied about this before or anything.

People are so goddamned gullible.

Trump and Un will meet. There's no doubt in my mind that they will. The question is what will happen when they do.

[Mandark]

Obviously they're not going to denuclearize and Trump visiting in person would be a diplomatic "win" for NK, but anything that lowers the chance of a preemptive war is fine by me.

[Boredfrom]

Obviously they're not going to denuclearize and Trump visiting in person would be a diplomatic "win" for NK, but anything that lowers the chance of a preemptive war is fine by me.

Yeah, but probably not do a Etiolate and say: “lol TAKE THAT”

[FStop7]

South Korean security people have said the following:

- Kim will immediatly stop testing and firing nukes
- He will not respond to the upcoming joint training
- Trump will meet with Kim Jong Un by May.

 

Right, it's not like NK hasn't lied about this before or anything.

People are so goddamned gullible.

Trump and Un will meet. There's no doubt in my mind that they will. The question is what will happen when they do.

I hope they fuck like wild animals.  On camera.

[Nintex]

Obviously they're not going to denuclearize and Trump visiting in person would be a diplomatic "win" for NK, but anything that lowers the chance of a preemptive war is fine by me.

The South Koreans are most bullish on this, which makes it weird. In fact Tillerson told reporters this morning that any negotiations with North Korea were still months if not years away.

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/971901763019313154



CNN loves Trump now

https://twitter.com/erichartmane/status/971909884542320641


White House just officially confirmed Trump's acceptance of Kim's invitation. Time and place to be determined. Sanctions remain in place.

[etiolate]

The meeting will be like

T: Our countries have a long history together
K: Now is the time for a new understanding
T: There's a lot invested in this. China, those countries like China. That one country below you.
K: Koreans interest is Korea.

*mumbling, camera shots, paper passing*

K *leans in and whispers*: So did you really bang that porn star?
T: Fuck yeah. You wanna see Ivanna's boobs?

[Boredfrom]

Trump is not going to NK, but he definitely would want to meet Kim.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/swin24/status/971892219237031937

[BisMarckie]

Jeff Gerstmann is still a threat!

[toku]

Honestly disappointed this wasn't in there:


What are they gonna do with teens start playing with ppl like fruit roll ups!

[Phoenix Dark]

Obviously they're not going to denuclearize and Trump visiting in person would be a diplomatic "win" for NK, but anything that lowers the chance of a preemptive war is fine by me.

Agreed

[benjipwns]

"criminals don't follow laws"

oh shit i guess we gotta get rid of all our laws then huh

woah pd with the sudden anarchist hot take all up in here

[Mandark]

Don't you shit this thread up enough, benj?

[benjipwns]

hillary clinton may not be the spawn of satan

[Phoenix Dark]

Am I wrong? It's one of the many corny arguments NRA types peddle.

[Mandark]

You're fine.

I could just do without importing discussions from the bog of eternal stench.

[thehunter116]

You're fine.

I could just do without importing discussions from the bog of eternal stench.

What about from the swamp of timeless odor?

[benjipwns]

i didn't mean to import the argument (which btw i never lose, only my patience) from there, just wanted to acknowledge the joke for PD

sowwy, sowwy everybody

except thehunter116

[Joe Molotov]

brb, imposing a huge tariff on imported arguments

[thehunter116]

i didn't mean to import the argument (which btw i never lose, only my patience) from there, just wanted to acknowledge the joke for PD

sowwy, sowwy everybody

except thehunter116

you know you love me

[kingv]

Obviously they're not going to denuclearize and Trump visiting in person would be a diplomatic "win" for NK, but anything that lowers the chance of a preemptive war is fine by me.

The South Koreans are most bullish on this, which makes it weird. In fact Tillerson told reporters this morning that any negotiations with North Korea were still months if not years away.

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/971901763019313154



CNN loves Trump now

https://twitter.com/erichartmane/status/971909884542320641


White House just officially confirmed Trump's acceptance of Kim's invitation. Time and place to be determined. Sanctions remain in place.

That Erin Burnett quote lowers my opinion of her dramatically. It might be the single stupidest take of anything about Trump at this point, because at this point everyone knows he is an idiot. If something good comes out of it, it is because of 1 of 2 things:

1) blind luck, I.e. south and North Korea are ready to make a deal anyway, and Trump is just there at the right time, and manages not to blow it up with his own stupidity.
2) an authoritarian government in the region, like Russia and/or China muscles in on N Korea in an attempt to gain points with Trump so that he looks the other way on other, more important strategic US priorities, likely without Trump or his neophyte team even recognizing what they have done.

It’s crazy to me how much of this country thinks there is any merit to this strong arm negotiating tactic.

[Mandark]

That Erin Burnett quote lowers my opinion of her dramatically. It might be the single stupidest take of anything about Trump at this point, because at this point everyone knows he is an idiot. If something good comes out of it, it is because of 1 of 2 things:

Counterpoint: Given everything we know about Trump, having a woman with big boobs on cable news say he'd be a great president for finding a peaceful resolution is maybe the most effective possible way of lobbying him.

[agrajag]

Attn. everyone, Erin Burnett is no longer bae 

[VomKriege]

"Remember that one day a couple years ago when everyone thought NK was going to give up its nukes?" - us, by the end of this month probably

Trump has been lambasting the Iran deal ever since he is in office yet somehow we expect him to be able to concede to the momentous DPRK demands with huge implications for the US sphere of influence in the Asia Pacific whatever they will be ?

[benjipwns]

They both intimately know someone in common: DENNIS RODMAN

NINETEENTH DIMENSIONAL BACKGAMMON

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/972151552570949633

All he needs to do is not mess up this deal with North Korea and he'll be re-elected by default. 

[Mandark]

Trump has been lambasting the Iran deal ever since he is in office yet somehow we expect him to be able to concede to the momentous DPRK demands with huge implications for the US sphere of influence in the Asia Pacific whatever they will be ?

Also the idea that the US is going to unilaterally withdraw from the last major arms control deal that it negotiated and NK will think "nah it's fine, I'm sure they'll keep their word on this one."

[zomgee]

"Trump's economy"

 

Because you need me, America. Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. That's why I did this, to save you from yourselves. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a country to run.

[Nintex]

Read up on the Cohen / Stormy thing and boy this is such an underused character this season

[benjipwns]

I won't rule out direct talks with Kim Jong Un, I just won't. As far as the risk of dealing with a madman is concerned, that’s his problem, not mine.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, there's pretty much no way this Trump/NK summit ends with NK giving up their nukes.

[agrajag]

Brianna Keilar is bae

[Optimus]

I won't rule out direct talks with Kim Jong Un, I just won't. As far as the risk of dealing with a madman is concerned, that’s his problem, not mine.

A true diplomatic genius.

[Nintex]

I'm waiting to hear that Kim never send the letter and it was just some 4chan troll who wrote to the South Koreans claiming to be Kim.

[Great Rumbler]

I'm waiting to hear that Kim never send the letter and it was just some 4chan troll who wrote to the South Koreans claiming to be Kim.

What I've read today is that the Kim clan has been trying to set up a face-to-face meeting with an American President going back to Clinton, and that they would consider such a meeting to be a huge propaganda victory since they could twist it as NK forcing America to treat them as an equal. Trump's dumb enough to fall for something like this.

[Nintex]

I'm waiting to hear that Kim never send the letter and it was just some 4chan troll who wrote to the South Koreans claiming to be Kim.

What I've read today is that the Kim clan has been trying to set up a face-to-face meeting with an American President going back to Clinton, and that they would consider such a meeting to be a huge propaganda victory since they could twist it as NK forcing America to treat them as an equal. Trump's dumb enough to fall for something like this.

What makes Kim think that one of Trump's crooks won't off him if he refuses to play ball. 

[Great Rumbler]

The Trump organization/administration isn't nearly competent enough to pull off an assassination of...well...anyone.