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benjipwns

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #15960 on: March 24, 2018, 10:03:33 PM »
As a friendly gesture of a compromise you could offer a 25% cut that devolves the Defense Department to the states. No federal subsidies of course. :doge

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #15961 on: March 24, 2018, 10:14:06 PM »
Letting states fend for themselves would be hilarious. Hope Kansas and Oklahoma can pull a mighty bootstrap.
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« Reply #15962 on: March 24, 2018, 10:20:27 PM »
Oh, are we sharing the stuff that comes across our FB feeds?



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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #15963 on: March 24, 2018, 10:20:28 PM »
As a friendly gesture of a compromise you could offer a 25% cut that devolves the Defense Department to the states. No federal subsidies of course. :doge

Oh, I'm not the one he's arguing with. I learned a long time ago to let his crazy ass post stupid bullshit, laugh, and keep scrolling.

benjipwns

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« Reply #15964 on: March 24, 2018, 10:22:53 PM »
Oh, are we sharing the stuff that comes across our FB feeds?


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person is obviously juxtaposing the absurdity of restrictionist viewpoints by using totalitarian/authoritarian/failed states as a comparison

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« Reply #15965 on: March 24, 2018, 10:59:22 PM »
Lol at filler "what happened to those parkland kids"  :thinking
my point was that the news organizations in this country are trash. one week the school shooting kids are on tv 24/7, the next it's drunk idiot trump campaigner and the kids are no longer worth airtime  8)

I mean do you want the reporters to follow these kids around nonstop 24 hours while they go to school, take a shit, etc. They were covering them a lot because there was more activity surrounding them post shooting. When they doing something noteworthy, like today, they report on it.. Also, it's kind of weird to expect the news media to ignore the president of the U.S. But I agree with your general sentiment that news is trash.

I mean I know why it is this way, it's the low operating cost sensationalist model Fox News really pioneered, but it is still honestly pretty fucking nuts that we have three 24 hour news stations and they basically cover 4-5 topics for 90% of it every day.

I probably get a wider breadth of coverage of news events watching PBS Newshour for one hour and the 30 minutes of BBC America before it than I would get watching 8 hours of CNN. And PBS actually finds time to put a handful of ongoing stories like climate change/environmental issues/Puerto Rico into their programming on a weekly basis.

In that sense I get where filler is coming from.


EDIT: Except for Tucker, he's still asking all the real questions the rest of the liberal media won't talk to you about.

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« Reply #15966 on: March 25, 2018, 12:02:57 AM »
cable "news" channels aren't really news, it's adult story time

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« Reply #15967 on: March 25, 2018, 01:44:11 AM »
cable "news" channels aren't really news, it's adult story time

I thought that's what they called it when they put Trump to sleep?

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« Reply #15968 on: March 25, 2018, 01:46:20 AM »
"grandpa, it's time to watch your stories on the tv"


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« Reply #15969 on: March 25, 2018, 04:44:17 AM »
nm having my ja rule moment

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« Reply #15970 on: March 25, 2018, 05:14:28 AM »
https://twitter.com/Shareblue/status/977392070053781505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23977392070053781505

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wtf killer mike  :doge this is some really dumb shit



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« Reply #15971 on: March 25, 2018, 06:30:09 AM »
Tucker's only asset is his dumb 'woah' face.

Glory to the man who made his face his prime asset.   :rejoice
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« Reply #15972 on: March 25, 2018, 06:44:46 AM »
so what's this talk about the US economy being 'due' for a recession

like how does this stuff work

apparently it's been a while, and these things happen in cycles?
There's an accepted economic logic to it but it's really more of people repeating and extrapolating historical trends. Basically a recession (by the technical definition) has occurred at least once a decade in every decade in U.S. history. We haven't had one in the 2010s as the "Great Recession" technically ended in 2009.

The longest period between prior U.S. recessions was ten years, between the 1990-91 recession and 2001 recession. (Though it should be pointed out that seemingly the rest of our "half" of the planet had a major or near economic crisis in the late 1990s. Including like seven of our top ten trading partners.)
Another recession would lead to anarchy. Europe has just crawled out of the hole. This year we're finally seeing some economic improvement but all governments are broke.
- Ukraine would probably explode first as it solely depends on outside help
- Brexit plus recession would push the English over the edge
- The Middle East fresh from the Syrian war and Arab spring would see another shortage of food and medicine
- The Russian state, solely floating on the oil that isn't sanctioned would sink like a rock
- China, leveraged to hell and back to reach their economic goals would be thrown into a tailspin
- The Saudi's depending on the diversification of their economy with huge investments to offset their lower oil income would be fucked
- Venezuela would finally go down the tubes (and takes the rest of South America with it)
- North Korea would literally starve to death
- Japan is already dead

A global economic recession within in the next 2 years would be a biblical event.

Eh I personally think something has got to give in eventually, lately there has been a tinge or flavor of the road to 1914, still probably too far out. It feels more pronounced than the predicted hegemonic transition to multipolarism. That being said do not underestimate the resilient bullshit of monetary policy in our globalized economy, i mean if 2008 didn't take us down past some shocks.... Whats to say we cant QE out of mostly anything, where do you place that threshold at which point it breaks?  It seems beyond reason.

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« Reply #15973 on: March 25, 2018, 06:49:56 AM »
so what's this talk about the US economy being 'due' for a recession

like how does this stuff work

apparently it's been a while, and these things happen in cycles?
There's an accepted economic logic to it but it's really more of people repeating and extrapolating historical trends. Basically a recession (by the technical definition) has occurred at least once a decade in every decade in U.S. history. We haven't had one in the 2010s as the "Great Recession" technically ended in 2009.

The longest period between prior U.S. recessions was ten years, between the 1990-91 recession and 2001 recession. (Though it should be pointed out that seemingly the rest of our "half" of the planet had a major or near economic crisis in the late 1990s. Including like seven of our top ten trading partners.)
Another recession would lead to anarchy. Europe has just crawled out of the hole. This year we're finally seeing some economic improvement but all governments are broke.
- Ukraine would probably explode first as it solely depends on outside help
- Brexit plus recession would push the English over the edge
- The Middle East fresh from the Syrian war and Arab spring would see another shortage of food and medicine
- The Russian state, solely floating on the oil that isn't sanctioned would sink like a rock
- China, leveraged to hell and back to reach their economic goals would be thrown into a tailspin
- The Saudi's depending on the diversification of their economy with huge investments to offset their lower oil income would be fucked
- Venezuela would finally go down the tubes (and takes the rest of South America with it)
- North Korea would literally starve to death
- Japan is already dead

A global economic recession within in the next 2 years would be a biblical event.

Eh I personally think something has got to give in eventually, lately there has been a tinge or flavor of the road to 1914, still probably too far out. It feels more pronounced than the predicted hegemonic transition to multipolarism. That being said do not underestimate the resilient bullshit of monetary policy in our globalized economy, i mean if 2008 didn't take us down past some shocks.... Whats to say we cant QE out of mostly anything, where do you place that threshold at which point it breaks?  It seems beyond reason.
The last time it happened the political situation (outside of the fuckery in Iraq) was pretty stable.

Now you have about a dozen or so countries, including Turkey, Ukraine, the US and Russia beating the war drums.
Some of those countries have flat out ran out of reserves and assets so they will start shopping around their 'weak' neighbors.
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« Reply #15974 on: March 25, 2018, 08:19:44 AM »
Want to put a disclaimer, I am not a military buff, and openly will admit a lack of consuming foreign policy "expertise" or analysis or anything else. So is far more and worse than average armchair hypotheticals, wedded more in my historical knowledge I acquired while polishing bowling balls. And also I feel this is an instance where my anarcho-pacifism may be blinding me to grim realities.

Nintex, your last part (and earlier handicapping of the nations' potential dangers) there is kinda key and something that's been talked about in various IR circles off and on. The resources and capacities for wars as we once knew them don't seem to exist.

The "great powers" don't engage in anything resembling wars of that scope. Russia's adventures in places like Crimea and South Ossetia were essentially invitations by one side of a dispute or low level civil war, the same was true of Chechnya and their other interventions in the Caucuses. The Iraq War, Afghanistan War and most of the rest of the War on Terror operations have had almost battles for show with standard military forces. UN interventions of the past two decades have been disasters launched from the air nearly exclusively.

If you discount Africa, for multiple reasons, you could make an argument that the only nation to show the ability to fight a "true war" against anything resembling formal opposition this century is Israel. And that's a seriously lower weight class. With Pakistan as maybe a runner up due to combined experience against so many foes and their best buddies India running third.

The United States is the only confirmed power that can engage in a large scale war for an extended period. Russia and China's power is still on paper (with many of China's conflicts having similar situations to what Russia has been engaged in) and there's good reason to doubt both, especially once extended. India, Pakistan and Israel are all constrained by geography, and Israel rather infamously generally deplores extended commitments which is why the 2006 Lebanon disaster led to some strategic soul searching. Turkey is constrained in a lot of ways.

A Russia expansion can only look West, which is a war they lose on paper. The Russians historically have only really ever gone right up to the edge of the Middle East and said "nah, we're good here." Preferring proxies, except there's not exactly any in the entire region right now. They're all seemingly dependent on the U.S. too much or in utter chaos. Or both.

An economic collapse that takes a sledge hammer to the Turkish, Russian and Chinese economies would kneecap extended operations far more than it would the EU-US alliance. Especially regarding logistics. The US-EU has too much legacy hardware that's also close enough to modern, it also semi-surprisingly has the far larger in service and active manpower base, with both active and reserve units having recent modern warfare experience. (Technically, this is not true, but I have serious doubts regarding the capabilities of the North Korean Army, especially to deploy outside the peninsula, no matter what THQ tried to make us think.)

Not saying a First/Second World scale war couldn't be attempted and wouldn't suck balls, just that even in a serious economic downturn, I don't quite see it as a serious consideration by true powers.

Maybe something like Turkey stupidly trying to march into Syrian gap and also deal with the Kurds seems semi-plausible. Though interestingly, if these statistics I found are accurate and they haven't lost them recently to ISIL, Syria has an absurd number of tanks, random armored vehicles and older artillery that must be serious hand me downs for a country of its size, population, etc. Along with decent enough basic air support (vs. Turkey) that my strategy would be to pile these up along the border (plus any old cars and other worthless crap) and then bomb Turkish attempts to get through the wall. Yes, I have sometimes used similar tactics in Civ with outdated units, especially in V and VI's one unit per tile system, why do you ask?

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« Reply #15975 on: March 25, 2018, 08:20:29 AM »
this isn't the fan fic thread you piece of shit, go bathe in toxic waste

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« Reply #15976 on: March 25, 2018, 04:28:41 PM »
Want to put a disclaimer, I am not a military buff, and openly will admit a lack of consuming foreign policy "expertise" or analysis or anything else. So is far more and worse than average armchair hypotheticals, wedded more in my historical knowledge I acquired while polishing bowling balls. And also I feel this is an instance where my anarcho-pacifism may be blinding me to grim realities.

Nintex, your last part (and earlier handicapping of the nations' potential dangers) there is kinda key and something that's been talked about in various IR circles off and on. The resources and capacities for wars as we once knew them don't seem to exist.

The "great powers" don't engage in anything resembling wars of that scope. Russia's adventures in places like Crimea and South Ossetia were essentially invitations by one side of a dispute or low level civil war, the same was true of Chechnya and their other interventions in the Caucuses. The Iraq War, Afghanistan War and most of the rest of the War on Terror operations have had almost battles for show with standard military forces. UN interventions of the past two decades have been disasters launched from the air nearly exclusively.

If you discount Africa, for multiple reasons, you could make an argument that the only nation to show the ability to fight a "true war" against anything resembling formal opposition this century is Israel. And that's a seriously lower weight class. With Pakistan as maybe a runner up due to combined experience against so many foes and their best buddies India running third.

The United States is the only confirmed power that can engage in a large scale war for an extended period. Russia and China's power is still on paper (with many of China's conflicts having similar situations to what Russia has been engaged in) and there's good reason to doubt both, especially once extended. India, Pakistan and Israel are all constrained by geography, and Israel rather infamously generally deplores extended commitments which is why the 2006 Lebanon disaster led to some strategic soul searching. Turkey is constrained in a lot of ways.

A Russia expansion can only look West, which is a war they lose on paper. The Russians historically have only really ever gone right up to the edge of the Middle East and said "nah, we're good here." Preferring proxies, except there's not exactly any in the entire region right now. They're all seemingly dependent on the U.S. too much or in utter chaos. Or both.

An economic collapse that takes a sledge hammer to the Turkish, Russian and Chinese economies would kneecap extended operations far more than it would the EU-US alliance. Especially regarding logistics. The US-EU has too much legacy hardware that's also close enough to modern, it also semi-surprisingly has the far larger in service and active manpower base, with both active and reserve units having recent modern warfare experience. (Technically, this is not true, but I have serious doubts regarding the capabilities of the North Korean Army, especially to deploy outside the peninsula, no matter what THQ tried to make us think.)

Not saying a First/Second World scale war couldn't be attempted and wouldn't suck balls, just that even in a serious economic downturn, I don't quite see it as a serious consideration by true powers.

Maybe something like Turkey stupidly trying to march into Syrian gap and also deal with the Kurds seems semi-plausible. Though interestingly, if these statistics I found are accurate and they haven't lost them recently to ISIL, Syria has an absurd number of tanks, random armored vehicles and older artillery that must be serious hand me downs for a country of its size, population, etc. Along with decent enough basic air support (vs. Turkey) that my strategy would be to pile these up along the border (plus any old cars and other worthless crap) and then bomb Turkish attempts to get through the wall. Yes, I have sometimes used similar tactics in Civ with outdated units, especially in V and VI's one unit per tile system, why do you ask?
Having kneecapped their well trained forces in the coup aftermath the Turks are already looking to create an Islamic fighting force of about 5 million men. Erdogan has completely lost the plot.
Xi Jinping has just assumed ultimate power and has also demonstrated a large army last year. The Chinese are practicing tactics in knock-off versions of Paris and Berlin. They might not make the first move but they're ready for the event.

Putin doesn't have a force big enough to attack Europe no, but with enough fuckery in the Balkans and Ukraine he can create another major unsolvable crisis for the Brussels bureaucrats.

And while all this plays out. John Bolton whispers in the ear of Donald Trump who controls the biggest and most powerful army in the world.

"This is a disaster, the economy is in the dump. The banks are rigged."
"A disaster or an opportunity mr. President"
"Enlighten me john"
"Where you see weakness, I see strength, now is the time to bomb Iran"
"We've been over this John. Iran is allied with Russia we can't risk war, they'd hit back"
"Not if we hit the Russians first"



Remember WW1 started over an assassination of a monarch and WW2 essentially became a 'hot war' over a highway dispute.
The Vietnam war escalated because a US ship thought it was under attack and the first Gulf War started because Saddam thought the Americans had given their approval and the second Gulf War was launched because faulty intelligence indicated Saddam had WMD's.

If overall somewhat competent world leaders and politicians stumble into war... imagine how easy Bolton and Trump would trip into one.  :doge


But don't worry they sad. Mad Dog Mattis is the adult in the room.
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Defense Secretary James Mattis has told colleagues he’s unsure if he can work with John Bolton, President Trump’s new pick for national security adviser, The New York Times reported.
:trumps


And as I type this, this happens:
https://twitter.com/HalawaMark/status/978006421815091200
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« Reply #15977 on: March 25, 2018, 04:47:48 PM »
and the second Gulf War was launched because faulty intelligence indicated Saddam had WMD's.

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« Reply #15978 on: March 25, 2018, 05:31:34 PM »
It was good enough to fool Hillary.

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« Reply #15979 on: March 25, 2018, 08:18:59 PM »
Jack, don't look!

 :exxy
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« Reply #15980 on: March 25, 2018, 08:46:38 PM »
Jesus I didn't need to see a giant pic of The War Walrus.

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« Reply #15981 on: March 25, 2018, 08:52:04 PM »
Want to put a disclaimer, I am not a military buff, and openly will admit a lack of consuming foreign policy "expertise" or analysis or anything else. So is far more and worse than average armchair hypotheticals, wedded more in my historical knowledge I acquired while polishing bowling balls. And also I feel this is an instance where my anarcho-pacifism may be blinding me to grim realities.

Nintex, your last part (and earlier handicapping of the nations' potential dangers) there is kinda key and something that's been talked about in various IR circles off and on. The resources and capacities for wars as we once knew them don't seem to exist.

The "great powers" don't engage in anything resembling wars of that scope. Russia's adventures in places like Crimea and South Ossetia were essentially invitations by one side of a dispute or low level civil war, the same was true of Chechnya and their other interventions in the Caucuses. The Iraq War, Afghanistan War and most of the rest of the War on Terror operations have had almost battles for show with standard military forces. UN interventions of the past two decades have been disasters launched from the air nearly exclusively.

If you discount Africa, for multiple reasons, you could make an argument that the only nation to show the ability to fight a "true war" against anything resembling formal opposition this century is Israel. And that's a seriously lower weight class. With Pakistan as maybe a runner up due to combined experience against so many foes and their best buddies India running third.

The United States is the only confirmed power that can engage in a large scale war for an extended period. Russia and China's power is still on paper (with many of China's conflicts having similar situations to what Russia has been engaged in) and there's good reason to doubt both, especially once extended. India, Pakistan and Israel are all constrained by geography, and Israel rather infamously generally deplores extended commitments which is why the 2006 Lebanon disaster led to some strategic soul searching. Turkey is constrained in a lot of ways.

A Russia expansion can only look West, which is a war they lose on paper. The Russians historically have only really ever gone right up to the edge of the Middle East and said "nah, we're good here." Preferring proxies, except there's not exactly any in the entire region right now. They're all seemingly dependent on the U.S. too much or in utter chaos. Or both.

An economic collapse that takes a sledge hammer to the Turkish, Russian and Chinese economies would kneecap extended operations far more than it would the EU-US alliance. Especially regarding logistics. The US-EU has too much legacy hardware that's also close enough to modern, it also semi-surprisingly has the far larger in service and active manpower base, with both active and reserve units having recent modern warfare experience. (Technically, this is not true, but I have serious doubts regarding the capabilities of the North Korean Army, especially to deploy outside the peninsula, no matter what THQ tried to make us think.)

Not saying a First/Second World scale war couldn't be attempted and wouldn't suck balls, just that even in a serious economic downturn, I don't quite see it as a serious consideration by true powers.

Maybe something like Turkey stupidly trying to march into Syrian gap and also deal with the Kurds seems semi-plausible. Though interestingly, if these statistics I found are accurate and they haven't lost them recently to ISIL, Syria has an absurd number of tanks, random armored vehicles and older artillery that must be serious hand me downs for a country of its size, population, etc. Along with decent enough basic air support (vs. Turkey) that my strategy would be to pile these up along the border (plus any old cars and other worthless crap) and then bomb Turkish attempts to get through the wall. Yes, I have sometimes used similar tactics in Civ with outdated units, especially in V and VI's one unit per tile system, why do you ask?

WWIII won't be between nations.

It will be mass civil unrest and the developed/1st world nations killing refugees en messe from climate change ravaged nations.

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« Reply #15982 on: March 25, 2018, 08:53:52 PM »
It was good enough to fool Hillary.

but not Obama
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« Reply #15983 on: March 25, 2018, 11:57:50 PM »
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stormy-daniels-describes-her-alleged-affair-with-donald-trump-60-minutes-interview/

:thinking

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Anderson Cooper: You had dinner in the room?

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: What happened next?

Stormy Daniels: I asked him if I could use his restroom and he said, "Yes, you know, it's through those-- through the bedroom, you'll see it." So I-- I excused myself and I went to the-- the restroom. You know, I was in there for a little bit and came out and he was sitting, you know, on the edge of the bed when I walked out, perched.

Anderson Cooper: And when you saw that, what went through your mind?

Stormy Daniels: I realized exactly what I'd gotten myself into. And I was like, "Ugh, here we go." (LAUGH) And I just felt like maybe-- (LAUGH) it was sort of-- I had it coming for making a bad decision for going to someone's room alone and I just heard the voice in my head, "well, you put yourself in a bad situation and bad things happen, so you deserve this."

Anderson Cooper: And you had sex with him.

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: You were 27, he was 60. Were you physically attracted to him?

Stormy Daniels: No.

:whew That clapback.
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Joe Molotov

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« Reply #15984 on: March 26, 2018, 12:16:53 AM »
I can’t even work up any fake interest in this Stormy Daniel story. We’ve known for decades that Trump is a gross old man that uses his money to get young women to sleep with him.
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thisismyusername

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« Reply #15985 on: March 26, 2018, 12:33:44 AM »
I dunno, the bigger deal is that they used campaign funds more than Stormy's allegations.

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« Reply #15986 on: March 26, 2018, 12:35:57 AM »
This feels like something which could get some of the other people involved disbarred or in legal trouble.

Aside from that, the attempts at intimidation to shut her up are pretty gross.

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« Reply #15987 on: March 26, 2018, 12:49:04 AM »
Cooper didn't even ask her why she has refused to do interracial porn for decades.
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« Reply #15988 on: March 26, 2018, 01:02:13 AM »
I dunno, the bigger deal is that they used campaign funds more than Stormy's allegations.

This. Also the idea that they could go to court and there could be discovery.

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« Reply #15989 on: March 26, 2018, 01:34:49 AM »



Trump absolutely leaves comments on pornhub videos.
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« Reply #15990 on: March 26, 2018, 01:38:23 AM »
so he doesn't find it unattractive for women to love the BBC  :mynicca
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« Reply #15991 on: March 26, 2018, 04:07:59 AM »
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Trump absolute leaves comments on pornhub videos.

Scour the seas and find me that melania amateur cuck video .

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« Reply #15992 on: March 26, 2018, 10:56:16 AM »
So many nothing burgers :goty
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« Reply #15993 on: March 26, 2018, 11:04:21 AM »
It was good enough to fool Hillary.

but not Obama
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he fell for the "jet fuel melts steel beams" one

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« Reply #15994 on: March 26, 2018, 12:26:13 PM »
Yeah people acting like it's a big deal or is going to do anything to Trump are batshit. People on RE acting like THIS is going to be the thing to finally sink him  :sabu
Queen Nancy will get revenge for what they did to Bill in the 90's and Chuck will bring home the 2/3rds to convict. :bolo

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« Reply #15995 on: March 26, 2018, 03:17:44 PM »
Ann Coulter is now dragging Trump on Twitter.

This is the future we deserve.  :doge
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« Reply #15996 on: March 26, 2018, 04:07:53 PM »
Like she has any power.  ::)
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #15997 on: March 26, 2018, 04:48:12 PM »
So many nothing burgers :goty

I feel that all the taxpayer-funded research that's gone into Sandwich Theory over the past few years ought to yield some useful applications to nothingburgers?
QED

agrajag

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #15998 on: March 26, 2018, 06:25:58 PM »
what she say

FStop7

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #15999 on: March 26, 2018, 08:42:25 PM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

agrajag

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16000 on: March 26, 2018, 08:56:13 PM »
Paul "Milk Toast" Ryan stands no chance. Sad!

Nola

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16001 on: March 26, 2018, 09:10:10 PM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

You think?

Even more than Flake, he just doesn't seem to have much appeal left from any group. Though just for the embarrassment, I hope he does. Fuck Paul Ryan.

Probably like the others, some care-post nonsense about how the Republican party he knows, the one he once served in good conscience, the one that just wanted to take healthcare and food stamps from old and poor people and give it to the rich using the lighter versions of Trump rhetoric is no longer the party he knows...And he's real sad about that.  :'(

Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16002 on: March 26, 2018, 10:43:28 PM »
Ayn Rand woulnd't vote for Paul Ryan.

kingv

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16003 on: March 26, 2018, 10:45:10 PM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

This is a good thing, both because Paul Ryan is a piece of shit  and also because one he is unshackled he can actually criticize President dipshit

Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16004 on: March 26, 2018, 10:50:19 PM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

This is a good thing, both because Paul Ryan is a piece of shit  and also because one he is unshackled he can actually criticize President dipshit

 :heyman

Phoenix Dark

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16005 on: March 26, 2018, 11:03:33 PM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

This is a good thing, both because Paul Ryan is a piece of shit  and also because one he is unshackled he can actually criticize President dipshit
:heh
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16006 on: March 26, 2018, 11:41:00 PM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

This is a good thing, both because Paul Ryan is a piece of shit  and also because one he is unshackled he can actually criticize President dipshit

 :whatisthis
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kingv

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16008 on: March 27, 2018, 01:37:30 AM »
Well... a boy can dream :-*

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16009 on: March 27, 2018, 01:38:58 AM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

This is a good thing, both because Paul Ryan is a piece of shit  and also because one he is unshackled he can actually criticize President dipshit
8)
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FStop7

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16010 on: March 27, 2018, 02:02:32 AM »
Paul Ryan rumored to be resigning within 60 days.

My opinion: he’s going to challenge Trump for the nomination.

You think?

Even more than Flake, he just doesn't seem to have much appeal left from any group. Though just for the embarrassment, I hope he does. Fuck Paul Ryan.

Probably like the others, some care-post nonsense about how the Republican party he knows, the one he once served in good conscience, the one that just wanted to take healthcare and food stamps from old and poor people and give it to the rich using the lighter versions of Trump rhetoric is no longer the party he knows...And he's real sad about that.  :'(

I think he will run on the tax cut and he’ll try to cast himself in the light of being a step back to normalcy from Trump.  But if Romney also runs he’ll cast himself the same way plus he has less exposure to Trump than Ryan. 

Trent Dole

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16011 on: March 27, 2018, 04:08:38 AM »
Pft, there were plenty of 'normal' candidates in the field in '16 and everyone wanted Don. What makes anyone think that a second primary in '20 will go differently? :trumps
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16012 on: March 27, 2018, 04:14:49 AM »
My opinion: both Ryan and Romney continue being totally spineless pieces of shit who completely fall in line behind Trump despite constantly being humiliated by him

kingv

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16013 on: March 27, 2018, 08:06:18 AM »
Romney can’t read a room for shit.

I remember like last month everyone was ready to suck their own dick over him being not-Trump, then he thanked the President in tweet #1.

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« Reply #16014 on: March 27, 2018, 01:28:45 PM »
But if Romney also runs he’ll cast himself the same way plus he has less exposure to Trump than Ryan. 
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/27/mitt-romney-immigration-trump-487738
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"I’m also more of a hawk on immigration than even the president," Romney said, according to The Daily Herald. "My view was these DACA kids shouldn’t all be allowed to stay in the country legally."

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« Reply #16015 on: March 27, 2018, 01:30:05 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/27/media/seth-rich-brother-sues-washington-times/
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The brother of Seth Rich, the slain Democratic National Committee staffer whose unsolved murder became the basis for conspiracy theories on the far-right, filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against individuals and media organizations that he alleges peddled false and unfounded claims about him.

The lawsuit, filed by Aaron Rich in US District Court in the District of Columbia, accuses Ed Butowsky, a wealthy Texas businessman; Matt Couch, a fringe internet activist; etoliate, The Bore's foremost distributor of L's; America First Media, Couch's media company; and The Washington Times, a conservative newspaper, of acting "with reckless disregard for the truth."

Brehvolution

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16016 on: March 27, 2018, 01:31:16 PM »
But if Romney also runs he’ll cast himself the same way plus he has less exposure to Trump than Ryan. 
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/27/mitt-romney-immigration-trump-487738
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"I’m also more of a hawk on immigration than even the president," Romney said, according to The Daily Herald. "My view was these DACA kids shouldn’t all be allowed to stay in the country legally."
Says the pro-life christian/mormon. :smug
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agrajag

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16017 on: March 27, 2018, 01:49:52 PM »
Seth Rich's brother gotta be prepared to take a massive L.

Phoenix Dark

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16018 on: March 27, 2018, 01:59:15 PM »
Seth Rich's brother gotta be prepared to take a massive L.
you're right. Etoilet's lawyer is no joke.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| It's Bolton time!!
« Reply #16019 on: March 27, 2018, 02:59:08 PM »
In 60 days:
- Paul Ryan resigns
- TRUMP angry, nominates Rand Paul speaker of the house
- Dems: "You can't do this"
- Trump: "I can sign this here EO paper"
- Trump turns on CNN to watch the chaos and gridlock
- Goes golfing for the next 2 years

GOP Debate 2020:
Ryan: "And that's why we need a real conservative in the White House, someone who stil stand up for our valu..."
TRUMP: "I'm sorry Paul you had your shot. You resigned, you're a quitter. I call him, PAUL 'PULLS OUT' RYAN"
Protestor: "GO AWAY YOU ORANGE FUCK FACE FUCK YOU"
TRUMP: "GO HOME TO MOMMY. YOUR MOM VOTED FOR TRUMP. GET 'EM OUTTA HERE! OUT OUT!! TAKE HIM OUT, SHOOT HIM, HE'S PROBABLY A DRUG DEALER"
Ryan: "And so our new policy will be based on..."
TRUMP: "RYAN PULLED OUT EVERYONE. When it gets tough he always pulls out. He never finishes. Never ever, believe me."
*clap clap clap clap WOOOOO USA USA USA*
*drunk man punches CNN reporter*
*REEEE member sets car on fire outside debate hall*
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