US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[VomKriege]

So it's their Obama "West Wing" analysis retooled without modification

How does Bernie being a big West Wing fan fit into their theory

I find a lot of Sanders' fans to be pretty Sorkin-y in their faith that a single guy can right the ship by standing up for what he believes in and speaking plain truths. Which is a pretty widespread belief across different ideologies, but it's funny cause TWW has become synecdoche for the naivete of centrist libs.

That's very widespread if not universal though. I mean you have to start somewhere... Top of the ladder is as good a place as any, I suppose.

[Joe Molotov]

It's good to know that the system of checks and balances between the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch, the Judicial Branch, and Alabama is still working.

[Tasty]

Thanks nonvoters

[benjipwns]

cuz why not
https://twitter.com/GovernorBullock/status/1128238526330359808

Bill de Blasio is supposed to decide this week too

[Joe Molotov]

Bill de Blasio is supposed to decide this week too

Hopefully this won't take time out of his important job of twitter beefing with Don Jr.

[benjipwns]

I see someone has hired filler as their ad designer:

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1128401258207961088

[benjipwns]

Nope, STRUGGLES.

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EMERGENCY GAS SHUT-OFF

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[CatsCatsCats]

Does he? Didn’t get that far past his stumbling and saying being a dad

[Joe Molotov]

a giant dad

[Rufus]

https://twitter.com/LEBassett/status/1128455886706552838

https://twitter.com/reason/status/1128654524841742337

[curly]

So it's their Obama "West Wing" analysis retooled without modification

How does Bernie being a big West Wing fan fit into their theory

I find a lot of Sanders' fans to be pretty Sorkin-y in their faith that a single guy can right the ship by standing up for what he believes in and speaking plain truths. Which is a pretty widespread belief across different ideologies, but it's funny cause TWW has become synecdoche for the naivete of centrist libs.

My favorite thing is when the media unintentionally shades the Bernie/AOC wing by calling them extreme liberals (although tbf it's probably a small slice of that group that would take issue with the label).

[benjipwns]

benji, I suspect you of posting this in bad faith.

I hope your happy when serious candidate Steve Bullock keeps crypto-nazi Andrew Yang out of the debates.

[team filler]

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1128713213728759809

Daddy Yangee!   

[james]

Hot take:

I don't give a shit about abortion. Can we focus on the real issues?

[james]

it's also just a coincidence that you refuse to refer to her as anything other than "Gillibitch"

Thats her name, don't wear it out.

Seeing her 0% poll results keeps me going.

[TakingBackSunday]

Hot take:

I don't give a shit about abortion. Can we focus on the real issues?

this is quite a terrible take

[james]

Hot take:

I don't give a shit about abortion. Can we focus on the real issues?

this is quite a terrible take

We're facing a global climate disaster. Maybe we shouldn't focus all our energy on an issue that can be solved with a condom or mandatory IUDs

[ToxicAdam]

Let's ignore real problems that people face in lieu of the invisible bogeyman that I believe in.

I want to see the party that runs on "mandatory IUDs". What a genius take.

[curly]

let's just delete this page and start over

[TakingBackSunday]

That's a hysterically awful way to "simplify" the issue at hand and completely takes the choice out of women's hands james

[agrajag]

oh look the whole gang's back together

[james]

Let's ignore real problems that people face in lieu of the invisible bogeyman that I believe in.

I want to see the party that runs on "mandatory IUDs". What a genius take.

It is something both sides can agree on.

Republicans think abortion is baby murder and want to prevent it at all costs right? Can't have abortion if you're not pregnant. Can't get pregnant with an IUD.

Democrats say abortion should be legal as a worst case scenario - condom breaks, rape, incest. Don't need abortion if you're not pregnant. Can't get pregnant with an IUD.

That's a hysterically awful way to "simplify" the issue at hand and completely takes the choice out of women's hands james

A 15 year old cannot consent to sex. Thus, they cannot consent to pregnancy.
A rape victim did not consent to sex. Thus they did not consent to pregnancy.

All women, upon reaching puberty, should be fitted with a free IUD.

At any point over the age of 18 in which the woman chooses to get pregnant, they can choose to get the IUD removed (also for free).

There are literally no downsides to this. 

[agrajag]

let's solve the issue of women being denied agency over their own bodies by denying them agency over their own bodies 

[james]

let's solve the issue of women being denied agency over their own bodies by denying them agency over their own bodies 

Let me guess, you're ok with mandatory vaccines?

Because it's literally the same thing. One prevents a virus, the other prevents a parasite.

[agrajag]

yes

[james]

yes

Welcome aboard. Glad you saw the light. See how easy that was?

[agrajag]

viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

[curly]

Let me guess, you're ok with mandatory vaccines?

Because it's literally the same thing. One prevents a virus, the other prevents a parasite.

ow the edge

[james]

viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

Dont fall for republican talking points.

Babies are children.

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are not babies nor are they children.

[Mandark]

let's just delete this page and start over

[james]

Liberals: "I don't like abortion but it's a necessary evil"

James: "Here's one quick trick to prevent abortions from ever being needed"

Liberals " Quick, delete the page"

[agrajag]

vaccines are a matter of public safety. You're talking a out an invasive procedure that  sticks a foreign object into someone's uterus that can have side effects that last for months and possible serious complications to appease some religious extremists.

[james]

IUDs are a matter of public safety. You're talking about an invasive procedure that  sticks a foreign object into someone's arm that can have side effects that last for months and possible serious complications to appease some religious extremists.

 

[agrajag]

viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

Dont fall for republican talking points.

Babies are children.

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are not babies nor are they children.

Yes, technically that is correct. But the way you chose to express your views reveals much about yourself.

[james]

viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

Dont fall for republican talking points.

Babies are children.

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are not babies nor are they children.

Yes, technically that is correct. But the way you chose to express your views reveals much about yourself.

Wow, you've discovered that I am not a slick politician with focus-group approved talking points? Congrats, you are correct, I am not in fact Corey Booker.

[james]

Lock the thread and don't open a new one

People like you are why Donald Trump won

[Mandark]

Still trying to work out the parameters of this Malthusian dilemma, where we could have done the Green New Deal except someone blew all the money on not outlawing abortion.

[curly]

Do you think that the fact that your quick fix that will satisfy everybody gets rejected immediately as a dumbfuck idea is perhaps a sign that it will not, in fact, satisfy everybody

[james]

Still trying to work out the parameters of this Malthusian dilemma, where we could have done the Green New Deal except someone blew all the money on not outlawing abortion.

What is causing global climate change?

Carbon emissions.

What causes carbon emissions?

-Coal power plants. Why do we have coal power plants? So people can play with their toys.     
-Container ships. Why do we have container ships? So people can get their cheap shit delivered from China.
-Cars. Why do we have cars? So people can go places.     
-Livestock. Why do we have livestock? To feed people.   

...you get the point.

What's a most effective way of decreasing carbon emissions?

Less fucking people.

We can't fix volcanoes, but maybe we can address the real elephant in the room?

Do you think that the fact that your quick fix that will satisfy everybody gets rejected immediately as a dumbfuck idea is perhaps a sign that it will not, in fact, satisfy everybody

The only valid counterpoint anyone here has offered is "I like abortions" and thats not exactly a winning campaign strategy.

[james]

In before the "james should have been aborted" post

[agrajag]

when James finds out that hardline evangelicals are against any kind of contracpiteon/birth control
 
 

[curly]

The only valid counterpoint anyone here has offered is "I like abortions" and thats not exactly a winning campaign strategy.

What does it matter if it's valid or not, you're the one who promised a solution that would end the controversy so we could focus on more important issues

[BIONIC]

[james wants to fuck 14 year old videogame squids joke]

[james]

Fun fact:

"In China, women often have the same IUD from soon after childbirth until menopause; while popular IUDs in the United States are typically deemed effective for up to 10 years, those used in China offer birth control for much longer.

China began demanding that women be fitted with an intrauterine device after they had one child, and sterilized after they had two, in the early 1980s. Those who refused risked that their children would be denied access to public schools and health insurance. Civil servants and state employees who refused lost their jobs.

From 1980 to 2014, according to official statistics, 324 million Chinese women were fitted with IUDs. And 107 million underwent tubal ligations or, as is commonly said, got their “tubes tied."


Someone check China's economic growth during that period and let me know if that was a good policy or not. I'm not good with high percentages since Im so used to America's 1-2% numbers

[Occam]

I've been saying it for a long time, global human population should be reduced to 1 billion, e.g. by requiring a license to have offspring (based on local population density). There is no good way to do this.
Unfortunately it's not going to happen as long as the made-up bullshit known as religion has any influence.

[curly]

Are you really this stupid or do you like the attention

[james]

The only valid counterpoint anyone here has offered is "I like abortions" and thats not exactly a winning campaign strategy.

What does it matter if it's valid or not, you're the one who promised a solution that would end the controversy so we could focus on more important issues

There will always be a contrarian in the room. I could bring a cure for cancer and some wise-ass would say they like cancer.

[james wants to fuck 14 year old videogame squids joke]

Squids are not destroying the planet

[Mandark]

I could bring a cure for cancer

well maybe you should do that instead of making bad posts

[curly]

There will always be a contrarian in the room

Found him

[james]

I could bring a cure for cancer

well maybe you should do that instead of making bad posts

I'd rather we focus on the most pressing issue at hand.

Curly, we see you butchering the quote and going back in for 7 edits trying to get it right.

[curly]

Let's focus on more pressing issues

[Occam]

I also think that large parts of the planet should be completely closed off to humans.

[james]

Oh great, fucking Jay Dubya wants more abortions now.

I also think that large parts of the planet should be completely closed off to humans.

Agreed. This also solved the "rural decline" issue that folks like Bernie are wasting time on.

Close off West Virginia. National Park. Everyone who lives there is moved to an area that  isn't a shithole.

Instead of a Sisyphus odyssey to bring jobs there, you take the people to where the jobs are.

The state is then reclaimed by nature.

Rinse and repeat with other shitholes.

[Joe Molotov]

Fun fact:

"In China, women often have the same IUD from soon after childbirth until menopause; while popular IUDs in the United States are typically deemed effective for up to 10 years, those used in China offer birth control for much longer.

China began demanding that women be fitted with an intrauterine device after they had one child, and sterilized after they had two, in the early 1980s. Those who refused risked that their children would be denied access to public schools and health insurance. Civil servants and state employees who refused lost their jobs.

From 1980 to 2014, according to official statistics, 324 million Chinese women were fitted with IUDs. And 107 million underwent tubal ligations or, as is commonly said, got their “tubes tied."


Someone check China's economic growth during that period and let me know if that was a good policy or not. I'm not good with high percentages since Im so used to America's 1-2% numbers

[agrajag]

James and Occam should abort themselves to save the planet.

[Occam]

I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

Why not, you need a license to drive a car, too.

The only way to save the planet and humanity is to get rid of the idiotic idea that having offspring is a human right.

[james]

I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

To not make it a "womans" thing, I am all for men getting snipped at puberty as well, assuming it can be reversed on demand (I think it can?)

[Mandark]

I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

if history has taught us anything it will be that the licensing process is consistent, quick, and fair