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« Reply #35160 on: May 15, 2019, 02:37:03 PM »
it's also just a coincidence that you refuse to refer to her as anything other than "Gillibitch"

Thats her name, don't wear it out.

Seeing her 0% poll results keeps me going.
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« Reply #35161 on: May 15, 2019, 03:01:09 PM »
Hot take:

I don't give a shit about abortion. Can we focus on the real issues?

this is quite a terrible take
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« Reply #35162 on: May 15, 2019, 03:10:24 PM »
Hot take:

I don't give a shit about abortion. Can we focus on the real issues?

this is quite a terrible take

We're facing a global climate disaster. Maybe we shouldn't focus all our energy on an issue that can be solved with a condom or mandatory IUDs
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« Reply #35163 on: May 15, 2019, 03:15:35 PM »
Let's ignore real problems that people face in lieu of the invisible bogeyman that I believe in.

I want to see the party that runs on "mandatory IUDs". What a genius take.




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« Reply #35164 on: May 15, 2019, 03:16:26 PM »
let's just delete this page and start over

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« Reply #35165 on: May 15, 2019, 03:18:38 PM »
That's a hysterically awful way to "simplify" the issue at hand and completely takes the choice out of women's hands james
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« Reply #35166 on: May 15, 2019, 03:20:46 PM »
oh look the whole gang's back together

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« Reply #35167 on: May 15, 2019, 03:26:31 PM »
Let's ignore real problems that people face in lieu of the invisible bogeyman that I believe in.

I want to see the party that runs on "mandatory IUDs". What a genius take.

It is something both sides can agree on.

Republicans think abortion is baby murder and want to prevent it at all costs right? Can't have abortion if you're not pregnant. Can't get pregnant with an IUD.

Democrats say abortion should be legal as a worst case scenario - condom breaks, rape, incest. Don't need abortion if you're not pregnant. Can't get pregnant with an IUD.

That's a hysterically awful way to "simplify" the issue at hand and completely takes the choice out of women's hands james

A 15 year old cannot consent to sex. Thus, they cannot consent to pregnancy.
A rape victim did not consent to sex. Thus they did not consent to pregnancy.

All women, upon reaching puberty, should be fitted with a free IUD.

At any point over the age of 18 in which the woman chooses to get pregnant, they can choose to get the IUD removed (also for free).

There are literally no downsides to this. 
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« Reply #35168 on: May 15, 2019, 03:28:25 PM »
let's solve the issue of women being denied agency over their own bodies by denying them agency over their own bodies  :doge

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« Reply #35169 on: May 15, 2019, 03:29:07 PM »
let's solve the issue of women being denied agency over their own bodies by denying them agency over their own bodies  :doge

Let me guess, you're ok with mandatory vaccines?

Because it's literally the same thing. One prevents a virus, the other prevents a parasite.
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« Reply #35170 on: May 15, 2019, 03:30:52 PM »
yes

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« Reply #35171 on: May 15, 2019, 03:31:46 PM »
yes

Welcome aboard. Glad you saw the light. See how easy that was?
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« Reply #35172 on: May 15, 2019, 03:32:18 PM »
viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

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« Reply #35173 on: May 15, 2019, 03:34:06 PM »

Let me guess, you're ok with mandatory vaccines?

Because it's literally the same thing. One prevents a virus, the other prevents a parasite.

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« Reply #35174 on: May 15, 2019, 03:34:28 PM »
viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

Dont fall for republican talking points.

Babies are children.

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are not babies nor are they children.
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« Reply #35175 on: May 15, 2019, 03:34:36 PM »
let's just delete this page and start over

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« Reply #35176 on: May 15, 2019, 03:36:44 PM »
Liberals: "I don't like abortion but it's a necessary evil"

James: "Here's one quick trick to prevent abortions from ever being needed"

Liberals " Quick, delete the page"
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« Reply #35177 on: May 15, 2019, 03:37:09 PM »
vaccines are a matter of public safety. You're talking a out an invasive procedure that  sticks a foreign object into someone's uterus that can have side effects that last for months and possible serious complications to appease some religious extremists.

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« Reply #35178 on: May 15, 2019, 03:37:59 PM »
IUDs are a matter of public safety. You're talking about an invasive procedure that  sticks a foreign object into someone's arm that can have side effects that last for months and possible serious complications to appease some religious extremists.

 ??? ??? ???
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« Reply #35179 on: May 15, 2019, 03:38:51 PM »
viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

Dont fall for republican talking points.

Babies are children.

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are not babies nor are they children.

Yes, technically that is correct. But the way you chose to express your views reveals much about yourself.

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« Reply #35180 on: May 15, 2019, 03:40:09 PM »
viewing children as parasites is totally healthy and not sociopathic at all

Dont fall for republican talking points.

Babies are children.

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are not babies nor are they children.

Yes, technically that is correct. But the way you chose to express your views reveals much about yourself.

Wow, you've discovered that I am not a slick politician with focus-group approved talking points? Congrats, you are correct, I am not in fact Corey Booker.
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« Reply #35181 on: May 15, 2019, 03:43:41 PM »
Lock the thread and don't open a new one
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« Reply #35182 on: May 15, 2019, 03:44:06 PM »
Lock the thread and don't open a new one

People like you are why Donald Trump won
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« Reply #35183 on: May 15, 2019, 03:44:29 PM »
Still trying to work out the parameters of this Malthusian dilemma, where we could have done the Green New Deal except someone blew all the money on not outlawing abortion.

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« Reply #35184 on: May 15, 2019, 03:44:53 PM »
Do you think that the fact that your quick fix that will satisfy everybody gets rejected immediately as a dumbfuck idea is perhaps a sign that it will not, in fact, satisfy everybody

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« Reply #35185 on: May 15, 2019, 03:45:47 PM »
People like you are why Donald Trump won
Yes, but enough about libertarians.  :rodney
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« Reply #35186 on: May 15, 2019, 03:48:13 PM »
Still trying to work out the parameters of this Malthusian dilemma, where we could have done the Green New Deal except someone blew all the money on not outlawing abortion.

What is causing global climate change?

Carbon emissions.

What causes carbon emissions?

-Coal power plants. Why do we have coal power plants? So people can play with their toys.     
-Container ships. Why do we have container ships? So people can get their cheap shit delivered from China.
-Cars. Why do we have cars? So people can go places.     
-Livestock. Why do we have livestock? To feed people.   

...you get the point.

What's a most effective way of decreasing carbon emissions?

Less fucking people.

We can't fix volcanoes, but maybe we can address the real elephant in the room?


Do you think that the fact that your quick fix that will satisfy everybody gets rejected immediately as a dumbfuck idea is perhaps a sign that it will not, in fact, satisfy everybody

The only valid counterpoint anyone here has offered is "I like abortions" and thats not exactly a winning campaign strategy.
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« Reply #35187 on: May 15, 2019, 03:49:33 PM »
That's a pro abortion argument, though
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« Reply #35188 on: May 15, 2019, 03:51:09 PM »
In before the "james should have been aborted" post
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« Reply #35189 on: May 15, 2019, 03:52:24 PM »
when James finds out that hardline evangelicals are against any kind of contracpiteon/birth control
 
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« Reply #35190 on: May 15, 2019, 03:53:12 PM »

The only valid counterpoint anyone here has offered is "I like abortions" and thats not exactly a winning campaign strategy.
What does it matter if it's valid or not, you're the one who promised a solution that would end the controversy so we could focus on more important issues

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« Reply #35191 on: May 15, 2019, 03:53:17 PM »
[james wants to fuck 14 year old videogame squids joke]
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« Reply #35192 on: May 15, 2019, 03:54:16 PM »
Fun fact:

"In China, women often have the same IUD from soon after childbirth until menopause; while popular IUDs in the United States are typically deemed effective for up to 10 years, those used in China offer birth control for much longer.

China began demanding that women be fitted with an intrauterine device after they had one child, and sterilized after they had two, in the early 1980s. Those who refused risked that their children would be denied access to public schools and health insurance. Civil servants and state employees who refused lost their jobs.

From 1980 to 2014, according to official statistics, 324 million Chinese women were fitted with IUDs. And 107 million underwent tubal ligations or, as is commonly said, got their “tubes tied."


Someone check China's economic growth during that period and let me know if that was a good policy or not. I'm not good with high percentages since Im so used to America's 1-2% numbers
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« Reply #35193 on: May 15, 2019, 03:54:43 PM »
I've been saying it for a long time, global human population should be reduced to 1 billion, e.g. by requiring a license to have offspring (based on local population density). There is no good way to do this.
Unfortunately it's not going to happen as long as the made-up bullshit known as religion has any influence.
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« Reply #35194 on: May 15, 2019, 03:55:23 PM »
Are you really this stupid or do you like the attention

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« Reply #35195 on: May 15, 2019, 03:55:25 PM »

The only valid counterpoint anyone here has offered is "I like abortions" and thats not exactly a winning campaign strategy.
What does it matter if it's valid or not, you're the one who promised a solution that would end the controversy so we could focus on more important issues

There will always be a contrarian in the room. I could bring a cure for cancer and some wise-ass would say they like cancer.


[james wants to fuck 14 year old videogame squids joke]

Squids are not destroying the planet
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« Reply #35196 on: May 15, 2019, 03:56:27 PM »
I could bring a cure for cancer

well maybe you should do that instead of making bad posts

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« Reply #35197 on: May 15, 2019, 03:56:27 PM »

There will always be a contrarian in the room



Found him

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« Reply #35198 on: May 15, 2019, 03:58:12 PM »
I could bring a cure for cancer

well maybe you should do that instead of making bad posts

I'd rather we focus on the most pressing issue at hand.

Curly, we see you butchering the quote and going back in for 7 edits trying to get it right.
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« Reply #35199 on: May 15, 2019, 03:59:32 PM »
Let's focus on more pressing issues

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« Reply #35200 on: May 15, 2019, 03:59:37 PM »
I also think that large parts of the planet should be completely closed off to humans.
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« Reply #35201 on: May 15, 2019, 04:02:11 PM »
Oh great, fucking Jay Dubya wants more abortions now.

I also think that large parts of the planet should be completely closed off to humans.

Agreed. This also solved the "rural decline" issue that folks like Bernie are wasting time on.

Close off West Virginia. National Park. Everyone who lives there is moved to an area that  isn't a shithole.

Instead of a Sisyphus odyssey to bring jobs there, you take the people to where the jobs are.

The state is then reclaimed by nature.

Rinse and repeat with other shitholes.
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« Reply #35202 on: May 15, 2019, 04:02:41 PM »
Fun fact:

"In China, women often have the same IUD from soon after childbirth until menopause; while popular IUDs in the United States are typically deemed effective for up to 10 years, those used in China offer birth control for much longer.

China began demanding that women be fitted with an intrauterine device after they had one child, and sterilized after they had two, in the early 1980s. Those who refused risked that their children would be denied access to public schools and health insurance. Civil servants and state employees who refused lost their jobs.

From 1980 to 2014, according to official statistics, 324 million Chinese women were fitted with IUDs. And 107 million underwent tubal ligations or, as is commonly said, got their “tubes tied."


Someone check China's economic growth during that period and let me know if that was a good policy or not. I'm not good with high percentages since Im so used to America's 1-2% numbers

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« Reply #35203 on: May 15, 2019, 04:02:57 PM »
James and Occam should abort themselves to save the planet.

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« Reply #35204 on: May 15, 2019, 04:03:33 PM »
I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

Why not, you need a license to drive a car, too.

The only way to save the planet and humanity is to get rid of the idiotic idea that having offspring is a human right.
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« Reply #35205 on: May 15, 2019, 04:04:27 PM »
I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

To not make it a "womans" thing, I am all for men getting snipped at puberty as well, assuming it can be reversed on demand (I think it can?)
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« Reply #35206 on: May 15, 2019, 04:04:46 PM »
I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

if history has taught us anything it will be that the licensing process is consistent, quick, and fair

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« Reply #35207 on: May 15, 2019, 04:05:33 PM »
these dudes out here trying to put us into an Aldous Huxley book

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« Reply #35208 on: May 15, 2019, 04:06:57 PM »
We're bringing back F.U.C.K.ing (fornicating under consent of the king)
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« Reply #35209 on: May 15, 2019, 04:07:09 PM »
Humans are driving one million species to extinction
Landmark United Nations-backed report finds that agriculture is one of the biggest threats to Earth’s ecosystems.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01448-4?sf212192888=1
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« Reply #35210 on: May 15, 2019, 04:10:30 PM »
Most people are incapable of rational thought; that is mankind's undoing.
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« Reply #35211 on: May 15, 2019, 04:11:12 PM »
In a vain attempt to bring this thread back to readable: San Francisco became the first city in the US yesterday to ban local law enforcement from using facial recognition technology.
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« Reply #35212 on: May 15, 2019, 04:12:58 PM »
Most people are incapable of rational thought; that is mankind's undoing.

The hardest choices require the strongest wills
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« Reply #35213 on: May 15, 2019, 04:13:24 PM »
I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

if history has taught us anything it will be that the licensing process is consistent, quick, and fair

I am certain it would be completely unfair and lead to lots of suffering, but it would save the planet. I see no other solution that doesn't lead to the destruction of the eco system and the eventual extinction of almost every living organism on earth.
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« Reply #35214 on: May 15, 2019, 04:13:29 PM »
someone please ban james
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« Reply #35215 on: May 15, 2019, 04:15:08 PM »
someone please ban james

Go back to Resetera where people pretend they're woke liberals but then recoil at any actual solutions.

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« Reply #35216 on: May 15, 2019, 04:29:36 PM »
I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

Why not, you need a license to drive a car, too.

The only way to save the planet and humanity is to get rid of the idiotic idea that having offspring is a human right.

josef mengele would approve of this post
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« Reply #35217 on: May 15, 2019, 04:30:31 PM »
IIRC the last time we had someone making the case for compassionate eugenics it was woke centrist lib Green Shinobi.



edit: I was wrong. Last time it was nintex. But the time before that it was GS.
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« Reply #35218 on: May 15, 2019, 04:34:44 PM »
birds of a feather flock together

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« Reply #35219 on: May 15, 2019, 04:35:19 PM »
IIRC the last time we had someone making the case for compassionate eugenics it was woke centrist lib Green Shinobi.

edit: I was wrong. Last time it was nintex.

No one is fucking talking about eugenics.
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