US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[agrajag]

these dudes out here trying to put us into an Aldous Huxley book

[Joe Molotov]

We're bringing back F.U.C.K.ing (fornicating under consent of the king)

[Occam]

Humans are driving one million species to extinction
Landmark United Nations-backed report finds that agriculture is one of the biggest threats to Earth’s ecosystems.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01448-4?sf212192888=1

[Occam]

Most people are incapable of rational thought; that is mankind's undoing.

[james]

Most people are incapable of rational thought; that is mankind's undoing.

The hardest choices require the strongest wills

[Occam]

I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

if history has taught us anything it will be that the licensing process is consistent, quick, and fair

I am certain it would be completely unfair and lead to lots of suffering, but it would save the planet. I see no other solution that doesn't lead to the destruction of the eco system and the eventual extinction of almost every living organism on earth.

[james]

someone please ban james

Go back to Resetera where people pretend they're woke liberals but then recoil at any actual solutions.

[TakingBackSunday]

I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

Why not, you need a license to drive a car, too.

The only way to save the planet and humanity is to get rid of the idiotic idea that having offspring is a human right.

josef mengele would approve of this post

[Mandark]

IIRC the last time we had someone making the case for compassionate eugenics it was woke centrist lib Green Shinobi.



edit: I was wrong. Last time it was nintex. But the time before that it was GS.

[agrajag]

birds of a feather flock together

[james]

IIRC the last time we had someone making the case for compassionate eugenics it was woke centrist lib Green Shinobi.

edit: I was wrong. Last time it was nintex.

No one is fucking talking about eugenics.

[benjipwns]

Let me guess, you're ok with mandatory vaccines?

Because it's literally the same thing. One prevents a virus, the other prevents a parasite.

I actually like the idea to make everything sterile and only reverse it after the person in question has acquired a license to procreate.

Why not, you need a license to drive a car, too.

The only way to save the planet and humanity is to get rid of the idiotic idea that having offspring is a human right.

Is this the Beto relaunch?

[curly]

We've gone from "it's a solution both sides can agree on" to advocating an American One Child Policy

[benjipwns]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-15/u-s-2018-births-fall-to-lowest-level-in-32-years-cdc-data

hey look it's already working

The Bire gets results

[Occam]

Population control is not eugenics.

[Occam]

Do you know what happens when there are no predators in a forest and you allow deer to breed uncontrollably?

[agrajag]

Do you know what happens when there are no predators in a forest and you allow deer to breed uncontrollably?

are you saying we should genetically engineer a predator to cull the human population?

[team filler]

[Occam]

Do you know what happens when there are no predators in a forest and you allow deer to breed uncontrollably?

are you saying we should genetically engineer a predator to cull the human population?

As I said above, I'm in favor of distributing a limited number of licenses to people who wish to procreate, it just seems more humane.

[BIONIC]

Do you know what happens when there are no predators in a forest and you allow deer to breed uncontrollably?

are you saying we should genetically engineer a predator to cull the human population?

Occam/James: “Hitler had some good ideas y’know” 

[james]

Do you know what happens when there are no predators in a forest and you allow deer to breed uncontrollably?

are you saying we should genetically engineer a predator to cull the human population?

Occam/James: “Hitler had some good ideas y’know” 

BIONIC "Hitler liked art, ergo we should fire bomb to Louvre"

[benjipwns]

Do you know what happens when there are no predators in a forest and you allow deer to breed uncontrollably?

are you saying we should genetically engineer a predator to cull the human population?

Japan called it Anime.

[Occam]

Do you know what happens when there are no predators in a forest and you allow deer to breed uncontrollably?

are you saying we should genetically engineer a predator to cull the human population?

Occam/James: “Hitler had some good ideas y’know” 

That's what we commonly refer to as non sequitur.

[Occam]

I gave you a way to save the planet. You decide how to implement it.

[benjipwns]

I gave you a way to save the planet. You decide how to implement it.

Blood for the Blood God

[james]

The hit TV show "The 100" (Tuesdays at 9:00pm on the CW) has some great ideas at how to keep the population within a sustainable level.

[Great Rumbler]

Oh boy, are we talking about eugenics and population control again?

[benjipwns]

The hit TV show "The 100" (Tuesdays at 9:00pm on the CW) has some great ideas at how to keep the population within a sustainable level.

omnipotent writers?

[Mandark]

First world dude pushing a global mass sterilization regime rather than even consider reducing his own consumption of resources: "am I the only one here willing to face up to the tough choices?"

[james]

First world dude pushing a global mass sterilization regime rather than even consider reducing his own consumption of resources: "am I the only one here willing to face up to the tough choices?"

What resources am I consuming?

I don't have a car.

I don't eat meat.

I don't use disposable plastic.

Go on.

[benjipwns]

we aren't going to need the state for this are we? cause that might be a deal breaker for me

[james]

we aren't going to need the state for this are we? cause that might be a deal breaker for me

How do you feel about the UN?

[Mandark]

I don't eat meat.

you ain't gotta lie to kick it

[sinxtanx]

this must be that free marketplace of ideas I've heard so much about

[team filler]

this must be that free marketplace of ideas I've heard so much about

you get what you pay for 

[james]

I don't eat meat.

you ain't gotta lie to kick it

Im all aboard the impossible burger / beyond burger train and unless you support Trump you should join me

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1128712526642995201

 

[Occam]

Not sure what any of this has to do with Hitler. Hitler didn't believe in population control. He wanted the German people to breed as much as possible (to get more soldiers/future settlers for the conquered territories). In fact, one of the first things the Nazis did after coming to power in 1933 was to make abortion punishable by jail again, which had previously been repealed.

[TakingBackSunday]

Not sure what any of this has to do with Hitler. Hitler didn't believe in population control. He wanted the German people to breed as much as possible (to get more soldiers/future settlers for the conquered territories). In fact, one of the first things the Nazis did after coming to power in 1933 was to make abortion punishable by jail again, which had previously been repealed.

This isn't really true.  He wanted _specific_ kinds of German people to breed as much as possible.  Any criminals, mentally handicapped, or other races were sterilized imprisoned and then – shock – murdered!

[Occam]

Sure, because he believed in eugenics. Which is not the same as population control.

Murdering specific people because of their supposedly inferior genes is not the same as understanding that this planet can't sustain more than 7 billion humans.

[CatsCatsCats]

*sees explosion of replies in politics thread*

Well, at least it wasn’t a terrorist attack

[Nintex]

Just send people into space with Space Force to colonize other planets.

[TakingBackSunday]

Sure, because he believed in eugenics. Which is not the same as population control.

Murdering specific people because of their supposedly inferior genes is not the same as understanding that this planet can't sustain more than 7 billion humans.

It's pretty fucking close.

[Occam]

Sure, because he believed in eugenics. Which is not the same as population control.

Murdering specific people because of their supposedly inferior genes is not the same as understanding that this planet can't sustain more than 7 billion humans.

It's pretty fucking close.

What? No. The Nazis had this insane belief that there were separate human races and that they had to eradicate some of them.
That's not remotely the same as understanding that there needs to be an upper limit to the number of people living on this planet.

[CatsCatsCats]

We on some Georgia guide stones shit now?

[benjipwns]

it's okay guys, just ran a defrag on earth, we got more space now

[team filler]

thanks, benj 

[ToxicAdam]

Humanity is a pyramid, we only reach higher by building the base wider. You go through human history and our success is inextricably connected to warmer climate and population growth.

Climate change is inevitable, evolution itself is proof of this. The only way to combat it is through wealth and technological progress. Limiting or disincintivizing  the growth of poorer countries is dooming millions to die in the future.

[Mandark]

Humanity is a pyramid, we only reach higher by building the base wider. You go through human history and our success is inextricably connected to warmer climate and population growth.

Climate change is inevitable, evolution itself is proof of this. The only way to combat it is through wealth and technological progress. Limiting or disincintivizing  the growth of poorer countries is dooming millions to die in the future.

r u high

[Kara]

There's already a system of baby licensure in the U.S., it's just administered through a wage and threadbare social security system wherein anyone but a very small percentage of the population is greatly impoverished by procreation (in the economic sense, I'm sure it's quite emotionally enriching) instead of through the satirical bureaucracy depicted in Paul Verhoeven's seminal documentary Starship Troopers.

Despite such a system the United States continues to be the world's premier polluter and its bourgeoisie + labor aristocracy remain hell-bent on exterminating everything in the name of overproduction.

Hokey inductive reasoning and internet ancient nü atheism is no match for for a good dialectic.

[Joe Molotov]

Sure, because he believed in eugenics. Which is not the same as population control.

Murdering specific people because of their supposedly inferior genes is not the same as understanding that this planet can't sustain more than 7 billion humans.

It's pretty fucking close.

What? No. The Nazis had this insane belief that there were separate human races and that they had to eradicate some of them.
That's not remotely the same as understanding that there needs to be an upper limit to the number of people living on this planet.

And people in the past have thought that upper limit was 100 Million, 1 Billion, etc but here we are despite not even implementing Occam's Razor to cull the surplus population.

[agrajag]

I was with you until you said you didn't want to unleash an octoshark to thin the herd.

[james]

Sure, because he believed in eugenics. Which is not the same as population control.

Murdering specific people because of their supposedly inferior genes is not the same as understanding that this planet can't sustain more than 7 billion humans.

It's pretty fucking close.

What? No. The Nazis had this insane belief that there were separate human races and that they had to eradicate some of them.
That's not remotely the same as understanding that there needs to be an upper limit to the number of people living on this planet.

And people in the past have thought that upper limit was 100 Million, 1 Billion, etc but here we are despite not even implementing Occam's Razor to cull the surplus population.

Why don't you ask the fish population how they feel about the upper limit in human population

[Joe Molotov]

Maybe I will when I give a fuck what a fish thinks.

[agrajag]

hey james do you like fish dicks

[BIONIC]

hey james do you like fish dicks

He’s more of a squid dick man

[agrajag]

I only hope that Congress asserts itself as a coequal branch of government and uniformly rejects the president's war if it comes to that.

 

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[BIONIC]

The Zioners are pushing for war with Iran 

[james]

(Image removed from quote.)

how do you rip a baby from the mother's womb after it's already been born? james, explain!

Had an IUD been in place, we would never be in this pickle.

Speaking of pickles, best case scenario with Iran is that US attacks, Iran nukes Israel to bedrock in response, and we get to share 'you played yourself' memes to republican Twitter accounts