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« Reply #240 on: October 02, 2019, 07:41:09 PM »
that chvrches tweet is so gross
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« Reply #241 on: October 02, 2019, 07:57:27 PM »
Isn’t the game already gold?

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« Reply #242 on: October 02, 2019, 08:08:46 PM »
chvrches being involved gives me very little confidence and even though it's based on conjecture, kojima seems to be unfocused. time is only so limited and the last time he was splitting it between overseeing his own studio and all the pressers and shit lead to easily his worst game and this go around he's whoring it up with a bunch of celebrities so the odds are strong with this game being shit. i hope i'm wrong, i really do.
MGSV was already an incoherent mess, despite the great core gameplay.
Although this time he doesn't have the "Fuck Konami" shield on his side.

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« Reply #243 on: October 02, 2019, 08:23:30 PM »
I have that chvrches shirt  8)

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« Reply #244 on: October 02, 2019, 08:27:30 PM »
There’s a lot of things I liked about MGS V gameplay, but yeah, the story was mostly a kiss.

Opening scene was good.

Volgin was good

Bosses were mostly good.

Part where you kill all your troops was good.

Kiefer was dumb as was revolver ocelot new voice.

But for some reason the part in that game that sticks with me the most is like what I remember as a 20 minute codec conversation about hamburgers.

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« Reply #245 on: October 02, 2019, 08:32:24 PM »
Literally the only gameplay I've seen so far is some clunky movement and triple a ladder mechanics. Oh, and having to sing your baby to sleep. The rest of it is cinematic dazzle.
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« Reply #246 on: October 02, 2019, 08:39:25 PM »
this game is gonna have as much gameplay as snatcher

i'll still pick it up at some point tho

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« Reply #247 on: October 03, 2019, 12:35:38 AM »
chvrches being involved gives me very little confidence and even though it's based on conjecture, kojima seems to be unfocused. time is only so limited and the last time he was splitting it between overseeing his own studio and all the pressers and shit lead to easily his worst game and this go around he's whoring it up with a bunch of celebrities so the odds are strong with this game being shit. i hope i'm wrong, i really do.

This is what a lot of game directors do after a certain point on the game. They don't write code or script missions or regress bugs or fix textures or tighten up animations etc etc. So they either do press stuff or they "play test" the game and yell at the people who do all the actual work. The dev team is probably working on the Day 1 patch that actually finishes the game. There's almost nothing productive for someone like Kojima to do at this stage.
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« Reply #248 on: October 03, 2019, 12:41:34 AM »
NGL, I experience weird jealousy how this guy gets treated like an auteur for turning in games with incoherent stories and iffy controls.
Stories aside, MGS 1, 2 and 3 are pretty genius from a design perspective, and certainly unique, not to mention influential.
Above that though, the guy certainly knows how to hustle and build his ("KOJIMA") brand, which is really what sets him apart from other talented guys like Michel Ancel or whoever else.
Hidetaka Miyazaki could've learned a thing or two from him in that regard, even though the fans did some of the work for him.

I was thinking about this in comparison to R*, because in some interview the Houser brothers mentioned they didn't want their name to feature front and center, as they really wanted to build the "Rockstar" brand above all.
It's really the opposite approach to someone who literally called the company with his own name.

Theoretically, you could buy Rockstar from them and lose 0 brand value in the public eye, but you can't buy Kojima Productions from Kojima, without rendering it pointless.

It's OK with me that people like stuff that I don't like. It's just weird that the overseas Otaku contingent is full-on "KOJIMA-SAMA" when it's clear this guy would rather be directing movies, from the amount of cutscenes he puts in his games, and the damned controls are just bad. FWIW, I also hated Resident Evil/Biohazard's remote-control-car scheme, and that game has had no trouble getting on without my support.

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« Reply #249 on: October 03, 2019, 06:05:57 AM »
I disagree about the controls.
Or to be more precise, the controls worked perfectly fine in MGS1, then became outdated and convoluted in MGS 2-3-4, but then MGS5 went back to controlling just fine.
And i think the cutscene thing got a bit better after the abomination that was 4, but regardless, despite his love for movies and his desire to make them, he still puts enough uniqueness into the game design side of things, to make that statement unfair.

I don't think the problem's that he wants to make movies, but that he succumbs to the classic Anime issue of over explaining everything 50 times, so you end up with 30 minutes of stock footage about the cold war.
Regardless of the final result, more thought is put into making his games play in unique ways, than something that just takes a template and slaps a cinematic pass into it, like Order 1886 or whatever.

Then again, i'm also fine with games like David Cage's (writing quality aside) because i think there's plenty of space for hybrid experiences anyway.

That said, i also can't stand the cult of Kojima and am deeply annoyed by the whole Silent Hills bullshit, which i'm glad Konami got to kill before it was too late.  :doge

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« Reply #250 on: October 03, 2019, 10:39:02 AM »
Well, I'm stoked.  Only games of his I didn't enjoy that much, were Boktai and Peace Walker.  Everything else has been well worth my time.   :yeshrug

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« Reply #251 on: October 03, 2019, 01:01:17 PM »
TAKING PACKAGES TO THE NEXT LEVEL



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« Reply #252 on: October 03, 2019, 01:33:33 PM »
Me too. Not everything in all of Kojima games is great, but they are always interesting.

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« Reply #253 on: October 03, 2019, 02:23:45 PM »
chvrches being involved gives me very little confidence and even though it's based on conjecture, kojima seems to be unfocused. time is only so limited and the last time he was splitting it between overseeing his own studio and all the pressers and shit lead to easily his worst game and this go around he's whoring it up with a bunch of celebrities so the odds are strong with this game being shit. i hope i'm wrong, i really do.

This is what a lot of game directors do after a certain point on the game. They don't write code or script missions or regress bugs or fix textures or tighten up animations etc etc. So they either do press stuff or they "play test" the game and yell at the people who do all the actual work. The dev team is probably working on the Day 1 patch that actually finishes the game. There's almost nothing productive for someone like Kojima to do at this stage.



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« Reply #254 on: October 03, 2019, 02:26:01 PM »
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« Reply #255 on: October 03, 2019, 03:32:51 PM »
Well, I'm stoked.  Only games of his I didn't enjoy that much, were Boktai and Peace Walker.  Everything else has been well worth my time.   :yeshrug

aw fuck no  :steiner

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« Reply #256 on: October 03, 2019, 04:58:35 PM »
I can't play vidyah games when I'm outside in the sun.  Neat concept, but no.

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« Reply #257 on: October 03, 2019, 05:18:49 PM »
the sequel removed the sun feature. never played either though.

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« Reply #258 on: October 03, 2019, 07:25:51 PM »
the sequel removed the sun feature. never played either though.

?? boktai 2 still had the solar sensor. it relied on it way more than 1, too. dunno about 3 bc it was never translated.

wait, do you mean lunar knights, the ds reboot? that game wasn't that great.

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« Reply #259 on: October 04, 2019, 01:39:18 AM »
Will this game have a slightly attractive girl that they totally sex up so you can ogle at her?
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« Reply #260 on: October 04, 2019, 03:24:52 AM »
Will this game have a slightly attractive girl that they totally sex up so you can ogle at her?
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Yeah. That chick with the invisible baby.

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« Reply #261 on: October 04, 2019, 06:08:36 AM »
Will this game have a slightly attractive girl that they totally sex up so you can ogle at her?
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It's a Kojima game, so: yes.

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« Reply #262 on: October 04, 2019, 06:16:06 AM »
Will this game have a slightly attractive girl that they totally sex up so you can ogle at her?
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Yeah. That chick with the invisible baby.
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I'd rather they sex up Lča.  ::)

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« Reply #263 on: October 04, 2019, 08:01:16 AM »
Will this game have a slightly attractive girl that they totally sex up so you can ogle at her?
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It's a Kojima game, so: yes.

Kojima-Sama!
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« Reply #264 on: October 04, 2019, 11:50:36 AM »
Be prepared for the scientific explanation for a naked Geoff Keighley.  :doge

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« Reply #265 on: October 08, 2019, 11:27:33 PM »
Review embargo is up Nov. 1st.  Kinda surprised they're lifting it a week prior to release.  Not sure if I'll be able to resist reading some.

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« Reply #266 on: October 10, 2019, 11:53:31 AM »
Some hands-on impressions...
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Yep, Death Stranding gave me nightmares! Never in my 20-something years of gaming have I ever felt so hopeless and lost while playing a videogame. And it has nothing to do with the game mechanics, but the world itself. Death Stranding’s environments are nightmare inducing. The world of Death Stranding is indeed a strange one. Imagine this:


You are wondering a almost barren alien planet with no knowledge of what kind of life it harbours. It’s a massive open world with wide open spaces and you are completely exposed. As night falls you begin to hear creepy sounds but you have no idea what they are. You try to look around for signs of danger but a thick mist slowly begins to suffocate your site. The sound gets louder and you strain your eyes to see if you can see something and, lo and behold, there seems to be something floating in the mist, and towards you, I might add. I don’t know what this is, I don’t know what to do, I just freak out and toss the controller over to my friend. That’s my experience in a nutshell.
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Death Stranding’s environment is one of the scariest and immersive I’ve ever experienced in a videogame. Although the world may seem barren and void of life, it never feels like you are truly alone… and it is terrifying. You don’t know what will pop out from where and it feels like there is this larger than life presence constantly watching you through the friggen’ clouds! It feels like Hideo Kojima took the Silent Hills vibe and injected it with steroids.

I’m calling it now, it will win Game of the Year. But I may need to find someone to keep me company while I play through it. The game has literally traumatised me; I had a nightmare about being stuck on an alien planet after only 15 minutes of game time… and I don’t even think it’s supposed to be a survival horror! Perhaps I was just so terrified because I was thrown randomly into the middle of the game with no context, no idea of story, or explanations of the game’s many beings.
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It's almost here...

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« Reply #267 on: October 10, 2019, 12:03:21 PM »
That reminds me of those previews IGN loves to write about GTA, every time one comes out.
Where they describe the most mundane shit, like they're landing on the moon.

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« Reply #268 on: October 10, 2019, 12:14:32 PM »
They be like



Probably the same nutcup pussies that couldn't finish PT or REVII demos because they were "too scary."

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« Reply #269 on: October 10, 2019, 02:07:32 PM »
That’s awesome that you can play with Norman Reedus dick just hanging out like that.

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« Reply #270 on: October 11, 2019, 04:19:20 PM »
There's supposedly several first person instances in DS.    I would say that's awesome sounding, but I can't.  :doge

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« Reply #271 on: October 24, 2019, 12:04:33 AM »
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« Reply #272 on: October 24, 2019, 04:44:25 AM »
Can I put down the capsule baby and piss on it?

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« Reply #273 on: October 25, 2019, 03:54:22 AM »
Can I put down the capsule baby and piss on it?
It's required in an early mission.

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« Reply #274 on: October 25, 2019, 07:36:55 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a trophy for peeing off a mountain ledge a certain distance; "Produce urine stream strand over 200 meters"  #BUHLEEINKOJIMA  :rejoice

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« Reply #275 on: October 25, 2019, 12:35:51 PM »
I like to think that Mama’s urine is intrinsic to the function of the babies in the jar.

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« Reply #276 on: October 28, 2019, 08:42:55 AM »
i'm interested in this game now i don't have to buy a poverty box to play it.

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« Reply #277 on: October 28, 2019, 09:30:40 AM »
If this doesnt come to steam ( im not expecting it given 505 is publishing ) for a year Ill just pirate it and buy it on steam a year later

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« Reply #278 on: October 28, 2019, 09:31:34 AM »
Calling it: EGS exclusive for a year.  :marimo

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« Reply #279 on: October 28, 2019, 09:39:29 AM »
Calling it: EGS exclusive for a year.  :marimo

EGS Exclusive!!!*

*Also on Game Pass
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« Reply #280 on: October 28, 2019, 09:48:31 AM »
 :ufup If any of y'all are gonna play a PC game next Summer, it should be Cyberpunk 2077, not DS.

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« Reply #281 on: October 28, 2019, 10:05:31 AM »
:ufup If any of y'all are gonna play a PC game next Summer, it should be Cyberpunk 2077, not DS.


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« Reply #283 on: October 28, 2019, 10:39:24 AM »
:ufup If any of y'all are gonna play a PC game next Summer, it should be Cyberpunk 2077, not DS.
cyberpunk is out in spring so that leaves summer free :D

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« Reply #284 on: October 28, 2019, 10:51:24 AM »
It just takes me forever to play through games nowadays.  :fbm

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« Reply #286 on: October 29, 2019, 01:37:40 AM »
lol at waiting over half a year to play this game

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« Reply #287 on: October 29, 2019, 02:01:48 AM »
lol at waiting over half a year to play this game
It's not you're waiting, still, in an empty room.
There's other games to play, other stuff to do  :lol.

It's only a problem if you really care about getting spoiled, which for a game like this one, i guess it could be a factor.

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« Reply #288 on: October 29, 2019, 11:06:52 AM »
It's only a problem if you really care about getting spoiled, which for a game like this one, i guess it could be a factor.
Through the insane amount of memes that will most likely spawn from this game, I think more will be spoiled than one would like.

On a side note, Kojima confirmed he's already well into development for his next project.  Fingers crossed it's another new IP and not a sequel to DS.

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« Reply #289 on: October 29, 2019, 11:48:25 AM »
Launch trailer dropping tomorrow:
Times: 14:45 CET | 13:45 UK | 09:45 NY | 06:45 LA, SF | 22:45

Countdown to launch... trailer   :doge
https://www.twitch.tv/kojimaproductions

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« Reply #290 on: October 30, 2019, 10:43:42 AM »


Edit: just watched it.. some possible spoilers.. proceed with caution

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« Reply #291 on: October 30, 2019, 11:02:39 AM »
I'm probably... out... it's so over-serious and corny but probably not enough for me to laugh at it long term, so the story might make me giggle a bit but I'll probably bore of it really quickly.

I was curious about just the general traversal / gameplay but the camera angles un-do that for me pretty quickly.    I really dislike the Japanese* style of having a "cinematic camera."

* At least that's what I've always attributed it to;  I could barely stand 3D console games in the dawn of 3D because everything on PC was either FP or Third Person over the shoulder for the most part.. Nintendo/Sony started doing 3D with those obnoxious roaming/cinematic cameras and I've only ever enjoyed a few games that way.

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« Reply #292 on: October 30, 2019, 12:01:24 PM »
It looks exactly like a Metal Gear, tbh, so i'm sure it'll have the same humor peppered throughout (i mean already having holograms of Conan or Geoff is hinting at that).

I found it a bit odd that they used old gameplay footage from other trailers (like him walking in the snow) in this one though.

Also funny how during the cast reveal at the end, every single character is crying. I expect BIG melodrama.

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« Reply #293 on: October 31, 2019, 10:16:01 AM »
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« Reply #294 on: October 31, 2019, 03:06:56 PM »
Tempted, but realistically I've got other games I should beat first, so I'll be smart and wait for a price drop.
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« Reply #295 on: October 31, 2019, 04:08:21 PM »
Totally gonna wait on this one. After the one two punch of MGSIV and MGSV Kojima is on a permanent "Wait and see" status.  I'll still get it, but the question is if I wait til it's $30, $20, $10, $5?
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« Reply #296 on: October 31, 2019, 04:21:03 PM »
AMERICA IS A LIE
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« Reply #297 on: October 31, 2019, 04:22:55 PM »
AMERICA IS A LIE

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« Reply #298 on: October 31, 2019, 09:45:52 PM »
bunch of headlines on gaming sites: "NEW DEATH STRANDING TRAILER HAS MAJOR SPOILERS" "TRAILER PACKED WITH SPOILERS" "HUGE SPOILERS FROM TRAILER" "KOJIMA REVEALS ALL" "GIVES AWAY DEATH STRANDING PLOT" "SIXTY TOP REVEALS FROM TRAILER" "ENTIRE GAME IS SEVEN AND A HALF MINUTES LONG"

me watching eight minute long trailer full of narration: :whatisthis

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« Reply #299 on: October 31, 2019, 09:47:52 PM »
Totally gonna wait on this one. After the one two punch of MGSIV and MGSV Kojima is on a permanent "Wait and see" status.  I'll still get it, but the question is if I wait til it's $30, $20, $10, $5?

All Sony published games drop by 1/2 1 year after release. So you have that to look forward to.
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