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« Reply #300 on: January 22, 2017, 04:13:01 PM »
Let's rustle some gaming jimmies

- Darks Souls series is difficult for things other than actual difficulty. It's intentionally obtuse, bad camera, no direction, no pausing. It's largely a trial and error game (unless you use a walkthrough) I can get why some of the kids love it, that feeling of accomplishment when you do something very difficult. But I don't see how older players don't see it for what it is. Bloodbourne though.....

- Red dead redemption sucked because its narrative. "I am John Marsden! I need to atone for my sins of killing a man!" <3 minutes later and 30 murders in a mine later> , "Oh I'm such a monster! How can I ever atone for that guy I killed 5 years ago." <kills a land owner for the deed>

- GTA games are just "tee hee, I'm EVER so naughty!" That have been outdone by now on all fronts, there's better sandbox games, there's better shooting games, there's better driving games, there's better story games and a lot of these put all of the above elements together

- 99% of indie games are crap (you get an Undertale or Stardew valley every once in a while but almost all of it is pixelated shovelware)

- Metroid Prime 2 was ass.

- Bayonetta is just fine as a feminist icon (lol)

- Gore is an instant turn off for me. If a game has a lot of gore, I just wont play it.

- MGS V(the first chapter) wasn't all that bad, but it sucks as a stealth game

- Shenmue was fine for its time, but it's largely been outdone by Yakuza

- FFVIII wasn't that bad. I'd rather replay that than snails paced IX (remakes tho...)

-AAA games are a dumb business model. Nintendo has it right about smaller less "tech impressive" games  (at least on a business level)

- Content is king. The average consumer doesn't care about the number of mega-florps your console has

- If Valve was smarter about their steam machine they could have destroyed the console market. But they're too stuck in their echo chamber.  Because the main thing holding back PC gaming right now is comfy couch gaming

- RTS and MOBAs are just resource management games. I think of it like running an excel sheet

- Technical limitations breed creativity.

- Sakimoto's OSTs are more "pretty background noise" than music

- Final fantasy has always been inferior to Dragon Quest.

edit: oh and Boogie? Smashing Pumpkins sucks!
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« Reply #301 on: January 22, 2017, 04:38:37 PM »
There's no alcoholic beverages that are pleasant to drink in the same way tea, soda or other flavoured drinks are. I only drink merlot because i'm over the 'got used to it' hump and I believe it to have positive effects on digestion in moderation

I am a super taster so beer tastes terrible to me, and tea without sweetener tastes like bitter water. So does coffee. But with enough sugar and creamer in tea and coffee I can find it to be a very palatable drink.

All alcohol to me tastes bitter, wine tastes like vinegar, and the only drinks I can really handle are froufrou to be honest. If I get drunk I can drink rum straight but I suppose it's because my taste buds are deadened.
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« Reply #302 on: January 22, 2017, 04:41:09 PM »
Oh and also, Fallout as a series sucks. "Here go do a bunch of quests in a brown and rusty setting. Of you're going to go all the way to the other side of the map? Guess what? It's brown and rusty. Oh, gonna go do a dungeon? Brown and rusty. Wanna see our version of Vegas? You'll never guess what, we did add some color lights, but the rest? Brown and Rusty." all of them feel like I'm just doing the same quests in the same place over and over. Similar to Oblivion here it was "Teenaged Renaissance fair" stuff and NIN album covers for the Oblivion gates.
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« Reply #303 on: January 22, 2017, 05:28:07 PM »
Whining about people being “too sensitive” is it’s own form of sensitivity.  The biggest difference is that unlike most others, it’s usually fueled by ignorance.
Eh, being like "Some one wrote Trump 2016 in chalk on campus! I feel threatened!!" and being called out for being silly doesn't make one ignorant. Too many people are like "You are not allowed to feel offended at my feeling offended!" It is in essence saying "You're not allowed to invalidate my feelings, so I'm going to invalidate yours). And that is used to give people carte blanche where everything is a valid argument. It's the kind of argument stopping fallacy that leads to the bubble that let Trump win. Keep in mind there is some true ignorance out there (all lives matter and others) but telling everyone that their offense at yours is ignorant is in essence making everything into a mountain, so any sense of scale is lost to anyone not in your inner circle. Like I keep saying it's a the Syndrome syndrome, where everything is offensive, nothing is.

so it was the left calling out racism, sexism, etc, and not the right calling out "attacks" on white people, Christianity, etc, that got trump elected? interesting
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« Reply #304 on: January 22, 2017, 05:46:55 PM »
Whining about people being “too sensitive” is it’s own form of sensitivity.  The biggest difference is that unlike most others, it’s usually fueled by ignorance.
Eh, being like "Some one wrote Trump 2016 in chalk on campus! I feel threatened!!" and being called out for being silly doesn't make one ignorant. Too many people are like "You are not allowed to feel offended at my feeling offended!" It is in essence saying "You're not allowed to invalidate my feelings, so I'm going to invalidate yours). And that is used to give people carte blanche where everything is a valid argument. It's the kind of argument stopping fallacy that leads to the bubble that let Trump win. Keep in mind there is some true ignorance out there (all lives matter and others) but telling everyone that their offense at yours is ignorant is in essence making everything into a mountain, so any sense of scale is lost to anyone not in your inner circle. Like I keep saying it's a the Syndrome syndrome, where everything is offensive, nothing is.

Is that chalk example something that actually happened?  Did someone say the writing “threatened” them?  I’m asking because there’s a lot of straw manning in online arguments against progressives.  If it’s made up then I’d appreciate a real world example.  The worst I’ve ever seen was a few people fabricating stories of harassment in the days after the election.  I wouldn’t even call that oversensitivity, it’s just plain old dishonesty.

And that is used to give people carte blanche where everything is a valid argument. It's the kind of argument stopping fallacy that leads to the bubble that let Trump win.
 
I may just be misinterpreting what you said here, but these two sentences seem to directly contradict each other.  Is sensitivity stopping arguments or making room for them?

Trump won because a large enough minority of voters weren’t sensitive enough to the needs of America’s  women, lgbt communities, or people of color.  If more people were offended by his behavior throughout 2016 (and our electoral system weren’t rigged in favor of the wealthy and white) he never would have had a chance at winning.

I didn’t say people are “not allowed” to complain about sensitivity, nor did I  claim that “everyone[’s]” offense at mine was ignorant.  My goal is to point out that this is one of the go-to defenses for people who wish to halt social progress.  Embracing sensitivity is a good thing.  I wish the “stop being so sensitive” crowd would give some specific reasons about why they disagree rather than make fun of people for expressing their emotions. 

You want an example of when offense at an offense is totally valid?  Look no further than Richard Spencer getting his ass clocked during that interview.  There are some people offended that liberals are cheering about the assault.  I found the video very amusing and am offended at the offended's inability to see the bigger picture.  No, he shouldn’t have been punched, but his repugnant views are far more harmful in the long-run than what happened to him this weekend.


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« Reply #306 on: January 22, 2017, 06:43:24 PM »
Maybe not unpopular for our US Boreans but speaking of which :
- Hate speech laws as they exist in some form or other in a lot of European countries are bad. France has one for Holocaust denialism, specifically, that bother me quite a bit (and not out of any sympathy for the opinion : by and large the "scientific" works have no merit and peddled by rabid antisemites). USA does the whole free speech thing much better.
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« Reply #307 on: January 22, 2017, 10:20:39 PM »
Whining about people being “too sensitive” is it’s own form of sensitivity.  The biggest difference is that unlike most others, it’s usually fueled by ignorance.
Eh, being like "Some one wrote Trump 2016 in chalk on campus! I feel threatened!!" and being called out for being silly doesn't make one ignorant. Too many people are like "You are not allowed to feel offended at my feeling offended!" It is in essence saying "You're not allowed to invalidate my feelings, so I'm going to invalidate yours). And that is used to give people carte blanche where everything is a valid argument. It's the kind of argument stopping fallacy that leads to the bubble that let Trump win. Keep in mind there is some true ignorance out there (all lives matter and others) but telling everyone that their offense at yours is ignorant is in essence making everything into a mountain, so any sense of scale is lost to anyone not in your inner circle. Like I keep saying it's a the Syndrome syndrome, where everything is offensive, nothing is.

Is that chalk example something that actually happened?  Did someone say the writing “threatened” them?  I’m asking because there’s a lot of straw manning in online arguments against progressives.  If it’s made up then I’d appreciate a real world example.  The worst I’ve ever seen was a few people fabricating stories of harassment in the days after the election.  I wouldn’t even call that oversensitivity, it’s just plain old dishonesty.

And that is used to give people carte blanche where everything is a valid argument. It's the kind of argument stopping fallacy that leads to the bubble that let Trump win.
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I may just be misinterpreting what you said here, but these two sentences seem to directly contradict each other.  Is sensitivity stopping arguments or making room for them?

Trump won because a large enough minority of voters weren’t sensitive enough to the needs of America’s  women, lgbt communities, or people of color.  If more people were offended by his behavior throughout 2016 (and our electoral system weren’t rigged in favor of the wealthy and white) he never would have had a chance at winning.

I didn’t say people are “not allowed” to complain about sensitivity, nor did I  claim that “everyone[’s]” offense at mine was ignorant.  My goal is to point out that this is one of the go-to defenses for people who wish to halt social progress.  Embracing sensitivity is a good thing.  I wish the “stop being so sensitive” crowd would give some specific reasons about why they disagree rather than make fun of people for expressing their emotions. 

You want an example of when offense at an offense is totally valid?  Look no further than Richard Spencer getting his ass clocked during that interview.  There are some people offended that liberals are cheering about the assault.  I found the video very amusing and am offended at the offended's inability to see the bigger picture.  No, he shouldn’t have been punched, but his repugnant views are far more harmful in the long-run than what happened to him this weekend.
Oh I'm with you. I'm like "You sow hate, you get hate." I get that. But, here's the thing. To say that people are ignorant that don't understand that.  I mean I get that technically it's true, but at the same time just saying "They're ignorant" :snob is counter productive. Just what in a conservative's privileged-rural-middle class-soccer mom life would give them the ability to know what that all meant? They're not getting it at home and from their community, the great white flight has made their communities homogenous, they're not getting it in school because the same issue, when they go to college they either go to conservative colleges or when they go to college they join young republicans and their probably only interaction with a liberal is someone shouting about something that makes no sense to the mind of a conservative. And they're certainly not getting it from liberals in their smug thrones in ivory towers talking about how everyone else is ignorant. It's somewhat akin to taking someone that's only been a farmer their whole life and laughing at them because they don't know how to declare variables in C++.  This is exactly why if Trump doesn't get impeached he'll be a two term president and likely hold both houses.  There is a cancer in American liberalism where we've become enthralled by the echo of our theory and have forgotten we need to not only put it in practice but also message things in a way that people can see it benefitted them. Reagan is so loved by Republicans because he could steal your wallet and make you feel glad he took it off your hands.

Since the days of Bush Jr. I've dealt with my very conservative friends and family and have gotten more than a few to stop voting republican and everytime it was by acknowledging how the world must look to them and then asking them that since I had taken time to understand their viewpoint, for them to consider something slightly different. Being like "LOL! Ignorant schlub!" Never got me anywhere. Republican leadership is much smarter than the democrats and much more devious. They have computer models to gerrymander districts as effectively as possible in their favor. Democrats wont win another major election by maintaining the districts they already hold. They're going to have to bring people from red districts too, and that can't be done with the way the party is now.

For the passed 8 years I've had my conservative family and friends shouting about everything about Liberals and Obama. "Obama wants to institute martial law!" "He's going to take our guns away!" "They're setting up concentration camps in Wal-Marts!" "The ACA is bound for disaster!" "Hillary is going to lose big!" It was exhausting because every issue was treated like the end of the world that I didn't pay attention to the last two things, which they were technically right about (of course the issue with the ACA was the insurance brokers reacting after people didn't do as they were told and sign up for insurance, but they were right and I ignored it because it was just another thing in a massive pile of stuff)
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #308 on: January 23, 2017, 05:50:36 AM »
Maybe not unpopular for our US Boreans but speaking of which :
- Hate speech laws as they exist in some form or other in a lot of European countries are bad. France has one for Holocaust denialism, specifically, that bother me quite a bit (and not out of any sympathy for the opinion : by and large the "scientific" works have no merit and peddled by rabid antisemites). USA does the whole free speech thing much better.

It is rather specific and has one of the strongest "punishments" amongst hate speeches (IIRC), but let's be fair it's often singled out as an example. Any denial of what has been established as a crime against humanity will get you in trouble.

It's a bit like the whole Hijab ban in schools. People often use it to try and point out a clear discrimination against muslims in France, completely ignoring that it applies to any religious symbols.

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« Reply #309 on: January 23, 2017, 08:20:44 AM »
- Most people are fucking boring.  No, liking craft beer does not make you interesting.  No, going to an ethnic restaurant does not make you interesting.

- If you write more than two lines as a response to something on Facebook, you lost automatically.

- Back when I played the vidya, I really disliked AAA games.  I always liked B/C level games instead.  They had their flaws but they were fun to play instead of wanky AAA "experiences"
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« Reply #310 on: January 23, 2017, 06:39:07 PM »
There's no alcoholic beverages that are pleasant to drink in the same way tea, soda or other flavoured drinks are. I only drink merlot because i'm over the 'got used to it' hump and I believe it to have positive effects on digestion in moderation

I am a super taster so beer tastes terrible to me, and tea without sweetener tastes like bitter water. So does coffee. But with enough sugar and creamer in tea and coffee I can find it to be a very palatable drink.

All alcohol to me tastes bitter, wine tastes like vinegar, and the only drinks I can really handle are froufrou to be honest. If I get drunk I can drink rum straight but I suppose it's because my taste buds are deadened.

This all sounds very much the opposite of "super" imho

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« Reply #311 on: January 23, 2017, 06:40:59 PM »
Yeah I was confused by that too :lol
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« Reply #312 on: January 23, 2017, 06:41:58 PM »
Also this is completely unrelated but I have a friend who is so into craft beer that he has a moleskine dedicated to taking notes on every microbrew he drinks. He also routinely plays Torbjorn on attack and CP maps, but I think the notebook thing is arguably more annoying even though it doesn't actually affect my life

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« Reply #313 on: January 23, 2017, 06:47:57 PM »
Moleskin plus craft beer? All he's missing is a manbun.

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« Reply #314 on: January 23, 2017, 06:52:00 PM »
The American war against IS using the Kurdish YPG as a main ground force in Syria is legitimizing a non-state actor that uses child soldiers and ethnically cleanses cities they “liberate”. Additionally, the use of Iraqi Shia militias as a proxy army has led to the pillaging of Sunni cities, torture, and other human rights abuses. The much-condemned Russian bombing of Aleppo is basically what the US is doing in Mosul, but no one curr. IS will be destroyed but Sunni Arabs will still be disenfranchised and another violent group will replace them.

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« Reply #315 on: January 23, 2017, 06:54:19 PM »
The American war against IS using the Kurdish YPG as a main ground force in Syria is legitimizing a non-state actor that uses child soldiers and ethnically cleanses cities they “liberate”. Additionally, the use of Iraqi Shia militias as a proxy army has led to the pillaging of Sunni cities, torture, and other human rights abuses. The much-condemned Russian bombing of Aleppo is basically what the US is doing in Mosul, but no one curr. IS will be destroyed but Sunni Arabs will still be disenfranchised and another violent group will replace them.

Any good links on the subject?  Legitimately curious.
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« Reply #317 on: January 23, 2017, 07:14:49 PM »
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legitimizing a non-state actor

Not to disagree with your point but isn't that true for most of Western involvement when thrown against groups opposing whoever the legal head of state is at this point in time ?
I know there were some alleged horror stories with Kosovo's UCK too, closer to home.
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« Reply #318 on: January 23, 2017, 07:33:55 PM »
The American war against IS using the Kurdish YPG as a main ground force in Syria is legitimizing a non-state actor that uses child soldiers and ethnically cleanses cities they “liberate”. Additionally, the use of Iraqi Shia militias as a proxy army has led to the pillaging of Sunni cities, torture, and other human rights abuses. The much-condemned Russian bombing of Aleppo is basically what the US is doing in Mosul, but no one curr. IS will be destroyed but Sunni Arabs will still be disenfranchised and another violent group will replace them.

Got anything on the YPG and ethnic cleansing? Curious because they've become something of a topic of debate on the left (the tankies think they're a CIA front, but they think that about everyone).

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« Reply #319 on: January 23, 2017, 07:45:57 PM »
Not ideally—better to support the host nation's forces. We decided not to do that in Syria for obvious reasons, but I think we should remind ourselves that we get upset at other governments for supporting rebels (like Russia in Ukraine).

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« Reply #320 on: January 23, 2017, 08:04:56 PM »
Reminding ourselves of our hypocrisy sounds like a bad rabbit hole. 

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« Reply #321 on: January 23, 2017, 08:29:16 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/03/24/someone-wrote-trump-2016-on-emorys-campus-in-chalk-some-students-said-they-no-longer-feel-safe/

Because it's funny, compare the headlines:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/03/24/students-terrified-by-trump-2016-chalk-drawings.html
http://www.infowars.com/dozens-of-college-students-triggered-after-trump-2016-written-in-chalk/
http://www.newsweek.com/emory-trump-chalk-protests-440618
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/02/us/pro-trump-chalk-messages-cause-conflicts-on-college-campuses.html

Thanks for the links.  I actually wasn’t sure who :beli was until the Fox article referenced him. :lol  I’ve read all five in addition to the Emory Wheel article.  Having learned more about the situation I’m actually sort of… proud of those students.  I completely agree with their categorization of the the person or group who wrote the messages as cowardly.  The Trump supporter(s) got to work anonymously at night time.  That’s the party who’s afraid of having their views challenged.  The students in opposition had conversations with the school’s faculty and the press.  Many of them were even willing to provide their full names.  These were well intentioned protests that harmed absolutely one one.  It garnered national attention as another battle in an imagined war on free speech.

The fact that they chose to protest in an environment that largely already agrees with them does soften the impact, but it’s still more courageous than the chalkings which to me seem like the political equivalent of a drive by forum post.  No one described the phrase “Trump 2016” as hate speech.  Emergency counseling was offered, but we have no idea if it was demanded or how many people used it.  The only reaction I don’t understand is those few who thought it might lead to a campus shooting.  Emory has a college Republicans club (that sided with Cruz over Trump), which tells me that they do welcome conflicts in opinion as long you’re willing to have a mature discussion about the source of your disagreement.  Scribbling on pavement is the furthest thing from enlightened discourse.

I sure hope everyone who protested went on to vote in November and intend to do the same this year.

Oh I'm with you. I'm like "You sow hate, you get hate." I get that. But, here's the thing. To say that people are ignorant that don't understand that.  I mean I get that technically it's true, but at the same time just saying "They're ignorant" :snob is counter productive. Just what in a conservative's privileged-rural-middle class-soccer mom life would give them the ability to know what that all meant? They're not getting it at home and from their community, the great white flight has made their communities homogenous, they're not getting it in school because the same issue, when they go to college they either go to conservative colleges or when they go to college they join young republicans and their probably only interaction with a liberal is someone shouting about something that makes no sense to the mind of a conservative. And they're certainly not getting it from liberals in their smug thrones in ivory towers talking about how everyone else is ignorant. It's somewhat akin to taking someone that's only been a farmer their whole life and laughing at them because they don't know how to declare variables in C++.  This is exactly why if Trump doesn't get impeached he'll be a two term president and likely hold both houses.  There is a cancer in American liberalism where we've become enthralled by the echo of our theory and have forgotten we need to not only put it in practice but also message things in a way that people can see it benefitted them. Reagan is so loved by Republicans because he could steal your wallet and make you feel glad he took it off your hands.

Since the days of Bush Jr. I've dealt with my very conservative friends and family and have gotten more than a few to stop voting republican and everytime it was by acknowledging how the world must look to them and then asking them that since I had taken time to understand their viewpoint, for them to consider something slightly different. Being like "LOL! Ignorant schlub!" Never got me anywhere. Republican leadership is much smarter than the democrats and much more devious. They have computer models to gerrymander districts as effectively as possible in their favor. Democrats wont win another major election by maintaining the districts they already hold. They're going to have to bring people from red districts too, and that can't be done with the way the party is now.

For the passed 8 years I've had my conservative family and friends shouting about everything about Liberals and Obama. "Obama wants to institute martial law!" "He's going to take our guns away!" "They're setting up concentration camps in Wal-Marts!" "The ACA is bound for disaster!" "Hillary is going to lose big!" It was exhausting because every issue was treated like the end of the world that I didn't pay attention to the last two things, which they were technically right about (of course the issue with the ACA was the insurance brokers reacting after people didn't do as they were told and sign up for insurance, but they were right and I ignored it because it was just another thing in a massive pile of stuff)
So you take issue with my use of the word “ignorance.”  I do honestly mean ignorance in it’s most technical sense.  Most people are ignorant about most things.  My original comment wasn’t aimed only at people who identify as conservative. Liberals do it too.   A lot of forward thinking people fall into the trap of forgetting that having progressive views takes effort.  They can easily recognize prejudice in their parents’ generation, but as their own world view becomes NORMALIZED :drudge they start wishing the following generation would prefer social inertia.  I see it a lot on the Bore. I’m talking about sentiments like “I get how not everyone’s heterosexual, but those kids on tumblr are just making shit up.”  To get more specific, take a look at the Overwatch thread about the ass pose or the Bore’s reaction to the Neogaf thread about Pokemon’s gender options.  Neither was an example of oversensitivity (I can expand on this if you’d like. I don’t want to make this single post too long).

You’re keen on tying this all back to the election, so I’ll bite.
Just what in a conservative's privileged-rural-middle class-soccer mom life would give them the ability to know what that all meant?

They’re still adults.  They’re responsible for informing themselves about the needs of their fellow citizens.  Use the internet.  Pick up a book.  Don’t have either? Go to the library.  Not only do they have the required intelligence, I also believe they have the capacity for empathy.  It’s true that our communities are segregated, but you shouldn’t need to have a Muslim/Hispanic/Black/Gay friend to recognize why Trump upsets so many of them.

When I’m explicitly discussing politics, I’m careful not to underestimate the intelligence of my opponents.  Nowhere in either of those two sentences did I advocate for talking down to conservatives or telling them they’re ignorant.  In my own experience I’ve also found those conversations much more productive when I treat them with respect, but I don’t begrudge others for not being patient with people who aren’t familiar with the most basic aspects of systemic oppression.  People of color already got those lessons just by growing up in the US.  Educating white Americans is yet another burden that I can’t fault them for not wanting to carry.  I do commend you for going the extra mile, however..

I’ll remember this exchange the next time I make the mistake of posting anything with fewer than 3 sentences.

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« Reply #322 on: January 23, 2017, 09:49:25 PM »
The American war against IS using the Kurdish YPG as a main ground force in Syria is legitimizing a non-state actor that uses child soldiers and ethnically cleanses cities they “liberate”. Additionally, the use of Iraqi Shia militias as a proxy army has led to the pillaging of Sunni cities, torture, and other human rights abuses. The much-condemned Russian bombing of Aleppo is basically what the US is doing in Mosul, but no one curr. IS will be destroyed but Sunni Arabs will still be disenfranchised and another violent group will replace them.

Got anything on the YPG and ethnic cleansing? Curious because they've become something of a topic of debate on the left (the tankies think they're a CIA front, but they think that about everyone).

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ru/originals/2015/10/syria-turkey-right-groups-accused-kurds-rojava-of-war-crimes.html


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« Reply #323 on: January 23, 2017, 10:01:49 PM »
The American war against IS using the Kurdish YPG as a main ground force in Syria is legitimizing a non-state actor that uses child soldiers and ethnically cleanses cities they “liberate”. Additionally, the use of Iraqi Shia militias as a proxy army has led to the pillaging of Sunni cities, torture, and other human rights abuses. The much-condemned Russian bombing of Aleppo is basically what the US is doing in Mosul, but no one curr. IS will be destroyed but Sunni Arabs will still be disenfranchised and another violent group will replace them.

It's basically been the same problem in Iraq since 2003, hasn't it? You start with three ethnic/cultural groups that lack the mutual trust or civic institutions to share power and resources peacefully (and who are backed by regional and international patrons with conflicting agendas) and shit spirals out from there.

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« Reply #324 on: January 23, 2017, 10:03:59 PM »
The American war against IS using the Kurdish YPG as a main ground force in Syria is legitimizing a non-state actor that uses child soldiers and ethnically cleanses cities they “liberate”. Additionally, the use of Iraqi Shia militias as a proxy army has led to the pillaging of Sunni cities, torture, and other human rights abuses. The much-condemned Russian bombing of Aleppo is basically what the US is doing in Mosul, but no one curr. IS will be destroyed but Sunni Arabs will still be disenfranchised and another violent group will replace them.

It's basically been the same problem in Iraq since 2003, hasn't it? You start with three ethnic/cultural groups that lack the mutual trust or civic institutions to share power and resources peacefully (and who are backed by regional and international patrons with conflicting agendas) and shit spirals out from there.

Pretty much, except the prevailing wisdom in 2011 was to get out of that mess and yet here we are.

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« Reply #325 on: January 23, 2017, 10:06:03 PM »
oh cool a third fourth politics thread :zzz

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Attitude era WWE was mostly trash.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #327 on: January 23, 2017, 10:20:39 PM »
Kevin Smith is a great orator and Clerks, Chasing Amy, and Dogma are all legit great. (Clerks II is also pretty good.)

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #328 on: January 23, 2017, 11:13:58 PM »
Also this is completely unrelated but I have a friend who is so into craft beer that he has a moleskine dedicated to taking notes on every microbrew he drinks. He also routinely plays Torbjorn on attack and CP maps, but I think the notebook thing is arguably more annoying even though it doesn't actually affect my life

Heh, why not just use Untappd like most of us (fairly) sane craft beer drinkers?
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #329 on: January 24, 2017, 12:51:25 AM »


Say what you will about him, if it weren't for Kevin Smith, you'd probably never get Joss Whedon Avengers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #330 on: January 24, 2017, 08:29:16 AM »
Thinking a group like the Kurds, who had been oppressed, was going to magically be the civil group once they got out from under the thumb was never a good bet. I saw people talk up the Kurds, mostly because theyt reated women better, but the axe they had to grind worried me. We should also separate the terror arm from the general ethnic group, but I think you're still dealing with dangerous amounts of resentment either way.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #331 on: January 24, 2017, 08:40:48 AM »
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DT: The Kurds, by the way, have been horribly mistreated by —

HH: No, not the Kurds, the Quds Forces, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Quds Forces, the bad guys.

DT: Yes, yes. Right.

HH: Do you expect his behavior to change as a result…

DT: Oh, I thought you said Kurds, Kurds.

HH: No, Quds.

DT: Oh, I’m sorry, I thought you said Kurds, because I think the Kurds have been poorly treated by us, Hugh. Go ahead.

Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #332 on: January 24, 2017, 10:46:07 AM »
The irony of Republicans wanting to arm the Marxist YPG is great too. There are still US laws on the books that criminalize supporting communist organizations. :lol

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #333 on: January 24, 2017, 11:04:21 AM »
:bow playdat  :bow2
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #334 on: January 24, 2017, 12:56:30 PM »
The Matthew Broderick Godzilla movie is hilarious. Big fan
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #335 on: January 24, 2017, 12:57:07 PM »
oh cool a third fourth politics thread :zzz
:( Sorry.  It’s challenging sometimes to decide whether a conversation is worth veering in that direction.  I usually don’t have it in me to respond to unpopular opinions regarding entertainment. I care deeply about music, but I feel the same way about how people treat other.  My opinions on the latter influence how I discuss the former.  If someone thinks an album I like sucks then I’ll leave them be unless an element of their argument against it is provably false.  Not liking my beloved thing is always a valid opinion, as is not wanting to discuss politics all the time.

:bow playdat  :bow2

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #336 on: January 24, 2017, 01:11:36 PM »
Kevin Smith is a great orator and Clerks, Chasing Amy, and Dogma are all legit great. (Clerks II is also pretty good.)

Clerks 1 and 2 plus Chasing Amy are legit great movies, while Mallrats is a good dumb teen sex comedy. I never liked Dogma much even though it's his most ambitious work. I have a love/hate relationship with the Jay & Silent Bob movie cause parts of it are legit trash while others are some of my favorites in thw askewniverse and I like some of the fanservice and callbacks. Overall, J&SB is a shitty movie though.

Nothing else he did matters, but Zack & Miri wasn't bad so much as it was mediocre.


Haven't seen Z&M or Cop Out. Hopefully he gets a Split-like comeback movie (probably Hit Somebody.)

I barely remember J&SB outside of this amazing scene:


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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #337 on: January 24, 2017, 06:44:46 PM »
Also this is completely unrelated but I have a friend who is so into craft beer that he has a moleskine dedicated to taking notes on every microbrew he drinks. He also routinely plays Torbjorn on attack and CP maps, but I think the notebook thing is arguably more annoying even though it doesn't actually affect my life

Heh, why not just use Untappd like most of us (fairly) sane craft beer drinkers?


I agree! Oddly though, none of the other craft beer enthusiasts in Osaka seem to be using it. There are three guys on it, and one of them mostly logs happoshū until he goes home to Yurop and brings the noise.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #338 on: January 24, 2017, 10:53:46 PM »
WWF and WCW were always bad, but it was entertaining (and quite a few of us were young).
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #339 on: January 24, 2017, 11:07:26 PM »
Final Fantasy 8 is a great game
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #340 on: January 24, 2017, 11:14:33 PM »
yeah ffviii is dope. The plot has some dumb shit but its a fun time.
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #341 on: January 24, 2017, 11:22:17 PM »
Final Fantasy 8 is a great game
I dare say that people who think FFVIII is crap would be the unpopular ones.
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #342 on: January 24, 2017, 11:26:18 PM »
For the good of mankind we must shut down twitter. It was a mistake. let's pretend it never happened.
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #343 on: January 24, 2017, 11:47:46 PM »
Final Fantasy 9 and 12 are the worst and crap.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #344 on: January 24, 2017, 11:52:04 PM »
ff8 is trash

ff9 was the last decent one

LETS GO PLAY THIS GAAAAAAAAAAME

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #345 on: January 25, 2017, 12:33:45 AM »
Final Fantasy 9 and 12 are the worst and crap.
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #346 on: January 25, 2017, 12:37:08 AM »
Final Fantasy 9 and 12 are the worst and crap.
Whoa whoa there bud. 12 I could see, but 9? How can you not like 9? Yeah the original was slow as molasses but the remake fixes that. Looks like you have checkity checking of yourself to do.
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #347 on: January 25, 2017, 01:32:21 AM »
Final Fantasy XII is great.
Final Fantasy VIII is great.
Final Fantasy XIII is great.
Final Fantasy is a great series.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #348 on: January 25, 2017, 02:24:35 AM »
Final Fantasy 9 and 12 are the worst and crap.
Whoa whoa there bud. 12 I could see, but 9? How can you not like 9? Yeah the original was slow as molasses but the remake fixes that. Looks like you have checkity checking of yourself to do.
The fuck slow battles and the stupid abilities tied to armor bullshit. The later made the game near unplayable for me.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #349 on: January 25, 2017, 03:17:37 AM »
Huh? FF9's ability system is probably the easiest and least complex ability system out there. Equip armor and then learn ability. Thats' it.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #350 on: January 25, 2017, 04:11:24 AM »
Huh? FF9's ability system is probably the easiest and least complex ability system out there. Equip armor and then learn ability. Thats' it.
Yes, that one, I didnt say it was complex, I said it was garbage, cause it is.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #351 on: January 25, 2017, 04:22:09 AM »
Yeah and you also called it unplayable and I just see how it's either. It's so simple and completely not tedious that it's pretty easy to just ignore. 9 is a class based game, since you're going to equip stuff anyway, and just battle you're going to learn pretty much everything just by playing the game.

But it also means equipment can become important since they also effect you're levling stats and it's just not something you buy and toss away like every other jrpg.

So I'm not sure how it's garbage or makes the game almost unplayable. It's easy to ignore, but there if you want to delve into it.

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« Reply #352 on: January 25, 2017, 04:26:52 AM »
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you're going to learn pretty much everything just by playing the game
False.

People play differently? I'm not a grinder nor am I one of those dudes that finish RPGs at level 8999999999. I usually finish games with the minimum of levels while leaning strongly on status magic and abilities. See why this doesnt work for me?

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #353 on: January 25, 2017, 04:29:28 AM »
Besides the battle system that I hated, I thought the plot and chars were all garbage too. You can fight me on this all you want, just like you can fight a brick wall by punching it. The result will be the same.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #354 on: January 25, 2017, 04:38:42 AM »
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you're going to learn pretty much everything just by playing the game
False.

People play differently? I'm not a grinder nor am I one of those dudes that finish RPGs at level 8999999999. I usually finish games with the minimum of levels while leaning strongly on status magic and abilities. See why this doesnt work for me?
No I don't, because I'm a critical path only player most of the time and had no problem getting pretty much all the noteworthy FF spells and abilities. Ultima, holy, fireaga. You get pretty much everything you need by simply playing the story.

I just don't see how one of the most simple ability systems makes the game unplayable.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #355 on: January 25, 2017, 08:15:11 PM »
People are a giant waste of time.

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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #356 on: January 25, 2017, 08:31:34 PM »
:larry

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« Reply #357 on: January 25, 2017, 09:48:42 PM »
People are a giant waste of time.
until you learn to embrace the joys of schadenfreude :cody
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Re: 2017: Unpopular opinions thread
« Reply #358 on: January 25, 2017, 09:49:42 PM »
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« Reply #359 on: January 25, 2017, 11:06:21 PM »
I don't want the wall to be built, but I don't think it's going to hurt anything. Large public works projects used to be something the left supported.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯