2017: Unpopular opinions thread

[I'm a Puppy!]

Last gen was the worst gen for gaming since the pre-NES days

This gen is the best for gaming since the PS1.

[StealthFan]

Last gen was the worst gen for gaming since the pre-NES days

This gen is the best for gaming since the PS1.

[I'm a Puppy!]

 

[I'm a Puppy!]

I've done a ton of pricing projects and insurance projects. So When I hear about a robbery in a bank or a major retailer?


"Eh, it's worked into the price"

However, I hear about someone stealing from a mom and pop shop?
 

[chronovore]

Realistic videogame graphics dull the imagination of its consumers.

[Rufus]

Realistic videogame graphics dull the imagination of its consumers.

They are also result in a self-destructive arms race, but I don't think that's an unpopular opinion.

[chronovore]

Realistic videogame graphics dull the imagination of its consumers.

They are also result in a self-destructive arms race, but I don't think that's an unpopular opinion.

Yeah, that's just math.

[Rufus]

Pre-order the limited edition pls.

[Great Rumbler]

Pre-order the limited edition and season pass pls.

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[I'm a Puppy!]

Realistic videogame graphics dull the imagination of its consumers.

I remember Yuji Horii talking about this and about how game graphics are supposed to be symbols and guideposts for the player to fill in the rest with their imagination. He said a long long time ago but even back then I was like, "Dude's totally right."

I always held that games that try to be realistic lack imagination.

[curly]

I've done a ton of pricing projects and insurance projects. So When I hear about a robbery in a bank or a major retailer?


"Eh, it's worked into the price"

However, I hear about someone stealing from a mom and pop shop?
 

But what about the mom and pop insurers

[I'm a Puppy!]

I've done a ton of pricing projects and insurance projects. So When I hear about a robbery in a bank or a major retailer?


"Eh, it's worked into the price"

However, I hear about someone stealing from a mom and pop shop?
 

But what about the mom and pop insurers

What about them? If you're in insurance and you're losing money, maybe you shouldn't be insurance.

[Rahxephon91]

Nier Automata is a buggy pos.

[FatalT]

Nier Automata is a buggy pos.

I haven't encountered any issues 

[Rahxephon91]

Nier Automata is a buggy pos.

I haven't encountered any issues 

Well I'm happy the game hasn't shat on you.

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Realistic videogame graphics dull the imagination of its consumers.

I remember Yuji Horii talking about this and about how game graphics are supposed to be symbols and guideposts for the player to fill in the rest with their imagination. He said a long long time ago but even back then I was like, "Dude's totally right."

I always held that games that try to be realistic lack imagination.

This is kind of a tautology, though I think I get what you mean.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Sometimes I use tautology and sometimes I say the same thing in two different ways.

[Momo]

I've stopped drinking coffee (months ago).

[I'm a Puppy!]

Fuck Ruby and Max. That show has left me with deep, deep, scars from having to watch that as a parent. It has literally zero redeeming values and if anything is detrimental to a kid's development, rather than helpful. It's popular to hate on Calliou but man Ruby and Max is exponentially worse.

[etiolate]

Realistic videogame graphics dull the imagination of its consumers.

HERE IS MY UNPOPULAR RETORT

The general feel of your point is popular, but the unpopular thing to say is that realism has many shades within gaming. There's stylistic realism versus true realism, and even between those two, they show up in different spots within the same game. True realism seems to be a holy grail for facial animations and faces in many games that have non-realistic settings. A current example would be the fuckup of faces on ME:A, but a much, much older example that people loved was NBA Jam. That game tried to map realistic faces on completely stylized bodies in an arcade version of the NBA.

So I don't associate realism directly with lack of imagination. I play two 'astronaut' games, one has very stylized aesthetic and the other more realistic, but both are imaginative for the very setting and structure of the game genre itself. LA Noire went hyper realistic faces with a period piece look.

While sports sims turn towards true realism, as do historical military shooters, much of the realism in gaming is stylized in order to fit the fantastical nature of gaming's genres.  Stylized realism is the norm, but I'd agree that mistakes in stylized realism tend to come from going too far towards true realism.

[Trurl]

Spicer was making a true if trivial point about Hitler just to say "using chemical weapons is extra bad."  He then blundered badly while trying to defend himself due to his own incompetence and also the stress of being at the center of a holocaust outrage.  It's fair to say that he sucks at his job but I don't think that Spicer was being malicious.

[chronovore]

Spicer was making a true if trivial point about Hitler just to say "using chemical weapons is extra bad."  He then blundered badly while trying to defend himself due to his own incompetence and also the stress of being at the center of a holocaust outrage.  It's fair to say that he sucks at his job but I don't think that Spicer was being malicious.

Just to clarify: Your unpopular opinion is that Spicer was not being intentionally malicious, just incompetent?

[Kara]

Holocaust outrage.

[Trurl]

Spicer was making a true if trivial point about Hitler just to say "using chemical weapons is extra bad."  He then blundered badly while trying to defend himself due to his own incompetence and also the stress of being at the center of a holocaust outrage.  It's fair to say that he sucks at his job but I don't think that Spicer was being malicious.

Just to clarify: Your unpopular opinion is that Spicer was not being intentionally malicious, just incompetent?

Well, my real unpopular opinion is that a lot of the outrage about it is pretty cynical.  Maybe that's not an unpopular opinion either, but my group of friends was shocked at me for not interpreting his words in the worst possible way.

[I'm a Puppy!]

My unpopular opinion is that the press in America has no spine. As much as we like to rail against Spicer's incompetence, the American press is even more incompetent. That Spicer thing is a good example. They let him say stuff unchallenged then go back to their laptops then type up faux outrage pieces about it and tweets, because they'll get more followers that way than, you know, actually calling bullshit.

[Great Rumbler]

Is that really an unpopular opinion, though? I feel like most people think this.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Is that really an unpopular opinion, though? I feel like most people think this.

You'd be surprised. I brought it up at work and everyone was like 

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yes I work with morons

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[chronovore]

My unpopular opinion is that the press in America has no spine. As much as we like to rail against Spicer's incompetence, the American press is even more incompetent. That Spicer thing is a good example. They let him say stuff unchallenged then go back to their laptops then type up faux outrage pieces about it and tweets, because they'll get more followers that way than, you know, actually calling bullshit.

Sturgeon's Revelation applies: 90% of anything is crap. We have crap reporters, crap politicians, crap police, and crap boreposters. Hell, even 90% of porn is crap.

The reporters covering the White House since January 20 have largely failed to challenge the unending stream of readily provable lies that have come from Trump, via Spicer. It's even more weird that they're going after ANY current mouthpiece bullshit instead of going back to ANY of Trump's campaign promises and saying, "What was that about golf again? How about private email servers? Why did you invite Bannon to MOTHERFUCKING DISPLACE actual security professionals on the National Security Council, only to backtrack and pull him off, and further throw him under the bus as a latecomer to the campaign that you now say you didn't know much about?"

Irresponsibility leaves every single member of Trump's administration like voluminous curls of smoke from a burning dumpster.

[Joe Molotov]

What about 90% of the Taco Bell Value Menu? 

[Kara]

Zyklon B was a chemical weapon and Jews living in Germany were Germany's own people.

It's not a true if trivial point, it's the weaponization of mass suffering that coincidentally Americans exacerbated (by turning away refugees... where have I heard that recently?) and abetted (through companies like IBM) to justify more military intervention.

[Cerveza mas fina]

The fact that he is talking about "own people" is worse, as if its somehow ok to murder "other people"

[Trurl]

Zyklon B was a chemical weapon and Jews living in Germany were Germany's own people.

It's not a true if trivial point, it's the weaponization of mass suffering that coincidentally Americans exacerbated (by turning away refugees... where have I heard that recently?) and abetted (through companies like IBM) to justify more military intervention.

I think that the turning away of refugees is disgusting and is one of the top reasons that I hate this administration.  I also think that it's untrue and a terrible thing to say that Hitler didn't gas his own people, but to me it seemed obvious that that was Spicer panicking and slipping after finding himself in uncomfortable waters.

All that he wanted to say is that dropping chemical weapons is so extraordinary that even Hitler didn't do it.  The reason it's trivial is because it's as if he's checking off a list of ways that Hitler used chemical weapons to find the one way that Assad is worse than Hitler.  When I said "trivial" I meant to imply that it was sort of weird and insensitive just not monstrous.

Honestly if I had been introduced to this story in any way other than"Sean Spicer doesn't believe in the Holocaust" I probably wouldn't have jumped to his defense. 

It also turns out that Hitler and the Italians did use chemical weapons outside of concentration camps, something that I (and Sean Spicer) didn't know.  This article nationalreview.com/corner/446658/sean-spicer-was-not-defending-hitler-he-was-still-wrong describes my POV last night​ better than I ever could, but this morning it reads too flippant.

[Trurl]

Ok, I'm sorry to come back to this but I just reread your post and wondered if you could elaborate on the last part.

Zyklon B was a chemical weapon and Jews living in Germany were Germany's own people.

It's not a true if trivial point, it's the weaponization of mass suffering that coincidentally Americans exacerbated (by turning away refugees... where have I heard that recently?) and abetted (through companies like IBM) to justify more military intervention.

I've vaguely heard about IBM assisting in the final solution through punch card technology, but I have honestly never come across the idea that the US somehow benefited from it due to it strengthening the cause for war (perhaps that's what you're saying).  Honestly I thought that the Holocaust wasn't a major cause for the war from the perspective of the allied powers at the time.

I recognize that you're many times smarter than me and I'm curious what you mean.

[Rufus]

There's no need to grovel, man. Kara is a reasonable, if tragically eloquent man.

[Trurl]

The Bore doesn't feel like my home.  I'm super accommodating for a while and don't masturbate on my roommate's couch for the first 3 months.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Jewish food is universally awful and joyless.

[Atramental]

Lebanese food tho

[Mupepe]

Lebanese women too

[Kara]

Ok, I'm sorry to come back to this but I just reread your post and wondered if you could elaborate on the last part.

Zyklon B was a chemical weapon and Jews living in Germany were Germany's own people.

It's not a true if trivial point, it's the weaponization of mass suffering that coincidentally Americans exacerbated (by turning away refugees... where have I heard that recently?) and abetted (through companies like IBM) to justify more military intervention.

I was saying that Spicer's comments were odious because he was the using a past atrocity to justify military intervention in the present. Whether or not he's a soft-core Holocaust denier, he's still moral detritus.

"It's not a true if trivial point, it's the weaponization of mass suffering to justify more military intervention."

(That would have been the sentence without the insert.)

[archnemesis]

Jewish food is universally awful and joyless.

How could you not like bagels?

[CatsCatsCats]

Jewish food is universally awful and joyless.

How could you not like bagels?

No one really likes bagels they just like toppings on bagels

[I'm a Puppy!]

Jewish food is universally awful and joyless.

How could you not like bagels?

No one really likes bagels they just like toppings on bagels

Exactly! A plain bagel is joyless. An asiago cheese bagel is delicious because of the asiago cheese, not so much because of the bagel.

[Trurl]

Bagels can be fucking amazing.

[Brehvolution]

Asiago bagel with chive cream cheese.

[Trurl]

Bagel Street Deli in Athens, Ohio is the greatest of all time.

[zomgee]

Bagel Street Deli in Athens, Ohio is the greatest of all time.

I only had it once and it was really good. Going back in a couple weeks.

[chronovore]

What about 90% of the Taco Bell Value Menu? 

I think we all know the truth here.

[I'm a Puppy!]

What about 90% of the Taco Bell Value Menu? 

I think we all know the truth here.

You're right. Taco Bell transcends space, time AND the laws of Gods and men.

[tiesto]

The lead character in Horizon: Zero Dawn looks like a dude. A lot of western games have this problem where the women look way too masculine in their facial features.

[Madrun Badrun]

Tiesto wants Lolis in his games but PAWGs in his domains. 

[Rahxephon91]

Western games usually do not have good female character models.

[Great Rumbler]

Western games usually do not have good female character models.

Witcher 3 tho

[Rufus]

Western games usually do not have good female character models.

There used to be a time where western games didn't have good models, period. Especially poly-starved PC games.

[brawndolicious]

It's the Michaelangelo effect. They get too obsessed making muscular characters with games that have mostly male characters that when it comes time to make a female character model, they just bolt some boobs on.

[tiesto]

Western games usually do not have good female character models.

Witcher 3 tho

Witcher series is definitely an exception when it comes to character models.

[etiolate]

Western games usually do not have good female character models.

There used to be a time where western games didn't have good models, period. Especially poly-starved PC games.

Lucas Arts and Blizzard had artists, and then everyone else you sort of clinched your teeth and dealt with it.

*N64 era memories*

[Positive Touch]

What about 90% of the Taco Bell Value Menu? 

I think we all know the truth here.

The truth is that anyone who likes hard shell tacos is a monster

[I'm a Puppy!]

Millenials will be a worse disaster than the baby boomers. Not because the whole thin-skinned, neo-puritan snowflake thing, but because they're so idealist. And remember the last generation that was really idealist? That's right the baby boomers. Idealism so often turns into self-interest.

[Kara]

Not to humor numerology for pop historians (i.e. generational "analysis"), but your thesis rests on your audience not knowing anything about the people from the Silent and G.I. generations.

Arbitrary and convenient boundaries are the hallmark of pseudoscience though, so top marks on that.

[Trurl]

Applesauce tastes great on fish sticks and cottage cheese makes an excellent chipdip.

The first one I haven't had in years as I've been a vegetarian for over a decade, but I remember it fondly.

Capers are delicious by themselves.