Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Dennis]

I give it two weeks to business as usual. New mods will be named and back to business.

This is relevant to my interests.

[Lothar]

If anyone wants another huge forum to check out, SomethingAwful is better than Gaf in every way.

SA has just as many skeletons as GAF, though. Why would I spend :10bux: to post on GAF-lite?

https://mobile.twitter.com/richard_kyanka/status/921858489852596225

On a serious note, this is the owner not sweeping it under the carpet and locking threads, banning people for talking about it.  There was a 250 page thread on SA when that happened, and Lowtax got angry when a mod closed it.

[Switters]

Ya'll need to cook. Goddamn. This Taco Bell talk has me reconsidering my previous praise.

We have a few mouthbreathing degenerates dragging this place down. It’s why it’s important for the rest of us to maintain dignity and standards without compromise.

Not even in the face of Neogeddon. :rorschach

[zepblackstar]

Evilore is in Austin right... That place seems full of softboys over the last year starting with devin faraci.

[jacob.armitage]

I'm interested to see how all this plays out.

[SwolDic]

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you mean like he and that entire site did to a bunch of fucking people? Fuck you ghaleon.

[helios]

(Image removed from quote.)

Computer, retrieve posts by Ghaleon that says the same thing about Harvey Weinstein.

[Blair]

(Image removed from quote.)

H O I S T E D

[Great Rumbler]

GAF is becoming a fascinating experiment in what would happen if the moderation staff completely abandoned a fairly prominent high traffic message board. It'll be like a Chernobyl of the internet, where one can study from afar whatever mutated flora and fauna don't fuck off and leave.

The mods get replaced easily. The problem is that the cheap fuck appointed admins to manage his site for free in exchange for imaginary authority.

That's actually something I never understood about NeoGAF. Evilore made tens of thousands a month but paid the people who kept the site going nothing. Why were they all ok with this?

Because some people are so fucking pathetic that will actually work for free just to impose their shitty ideology on others or feel powerful on the internet.

Hey!

[Rman]

[quote oauthor=Rman link=topic=45102.msg2307127#msg2307127 date=1508636216]
I give it two weeks to business as usual. New mods will be named and back to business.

This is relevant to my interests.
[/quote]
Well the guy has 7 vacancies to fill lol

[stufte]

MODS HALP

[CatsCatsCats]

Dude wtf is going on with this traffic

[thisismyusername]

Ya'll need to cook. Goddamn. This Taco Bell talk has me reconsidering my previous praise.

Guess what, sometimes good weed comes to you and you want to celebrate it with your boyfriend at a Taco Bell.

[IrishNinja]

Your virtue signaling has no power here mithrandir

imagine being a grown adult and talking like.this
just imagine

[benjipwns]

this one has to be fake:

[Switters]

is it bad that i'm getting a semi over this? watching this place implode is the best porn i've watched in the last 24 hours.

So far, between me, you, and eightbitnate, we almost have a fully erect penis. What we do with it is up to....

[Mr. Nobody]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=131168381&postcount=10223

Called it 3 years ago 

[Rman]

Benji, will you become a mod if asked?

[Interficium]

Seeing some fellow refugees defend "the community" and various other only a few bad eggs bullshit.

Make no mistake. The only redeeming part of Gaf was that by coincidence developers and people who actually knew what the fuck they were talking about posted about shit on there in the mid-aughts. Those people were all pushed out in the last decade, replaced by wannabes and armchair devs, supplanted by aging, bitter 30-something capital-G Gamers who sincerely believe the hobby/industry is a zero-sum game where in order for the things they personally like to succeed, the things they personally dislike must fail. That's why you see a lot of language like "If X succeeds it will just encourage more publishers and developers to do shit like this" and various flawed premises about how X thing (that they don't personally like or agree with) will be "bad for the industry," citing various vague consequences that basically all amount to "more things I dislike will be made."

These are people who think the height of criticism is the tired old Mona Lisa-as-video-game meme image that implies video games were complete, uncompromised experiences back in the 90s/00s and that todays games are tiny morsels broken up into DLC packs and pre-order incentives, completely ignoring the exponential increases in overall size, scope, and visual fidelity that today's games offer versus those in the 90s and 00s.

These are the people who feel "screwed over" and "fucked in the ass" by entertainment products, toys.

These are people who celebrate layoffs at companies because the toy the people at that company made wasn't a good enough toy in their assessment.

NeoGaf can burn. At least 4chan knows what it is. NeoGaf was the same shit with a condescending, faux-intellectual, "we're the smart forum" veneer on it.

[EightBitNate]

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GAF allowed users to condemn hundreds of people with careers ten times better than Evilore’s based off of lesser accusations.

[stufte]

www.503serviceunavailable.com believe.

[VomKriege]

a year of half of OT being a giant Trump thread was ok but a day of truths is too much

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252745075&postcount=8

gonna be funny when gaf bounces back like nothing happened tomorrow

Will it though ? Even with a good The Statement ? As evidenced by current issues, the site is still pretty shite as far as server goes. A lot of he major mods and admins have stepped down including the one that supposedly made the whole Modbot thing work. And it's not like the allegations will vanish into thin air, it's gonna drag for days or weeks. And the brusque, petty, management by Lore isn't gonna change anytime soon.

I guess if he can salvage the Gaming side and have some fresh faces at the wheel, the forum can indeed soldier on.

[SwolDic]

this one has to be fake:

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that's very much real. was going around a lot during GAFs march to kill the xbox one.

[Switters]

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GAF allowed users to condemn hundreds of people with careers ten times better than Evilore’s based off of lesser accusations.

Fucking PREACH

[Nuitangg]

Ghaleon giving Evilore the benefit of the doubt and not David Blaine wtf

[Boredfrom]

(Image removed from quote.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAHAHHAHHAHAH

I would pity EL if he wasn't such a hypocritical scumbag that allowed witch hunts in anyone but himself and his mods.

[nudemacusers]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=131168381&postcount=10223

Called it 3 years ago 

Lord Jamar was right

[Shuri]

Let's take a moment and appreciate this video from the heydays of neogaf when it was becoming mainstream.

[VomKriege]

(Image removed from quote.)

So, is he implying he's no longer a mod then ?

[Blair]

(Image removed from quote.)

GAF allowed users to condemn hundreds of people with careers ten times better than Evilore’s based off of lesser accusations.

I know this because i was a cunt who partook in this nonsense. Remember that thread about a transgender throwing a comedian at a MS event under the bus for no reason? I believed her with zero verification from anyone else at the event and felt like a fucking idiot when the truth came out.

[Kevtones]

Does Bobby Roberts like Taco Bell?

Oh nice, hey kevtones

Cheers 🍻


Though I've been here since 2013 apparently.

[benjipwns]

Was HUELEN Lime?!?

https://pastebin.com/ZwnNh3AJ

Anywho, some people have wonder if I've been "playing the long game" or trolling the forum or whatever. The answer is, no.. with a but. When Stumpokopow unbanned a perma (for of all things, praising the attention to detail that a developer put on their character), I didn't want to go back to GAF, but my friends told me to DO IT because we all saw how much of a cesspool it had become while I was gone. This was our ONE OPPORTUNITY to adhere perfect to the TOS and be a "model GAF poster". So, whilst being myself, i did what I've always done. I made helpful threads, I never insulted people and I defended against bullying (GAF is FILLED with bullies). I knew that the GAF I once posted in was gone forever, so I decided to be myself, whilst playing by their rules in THIER game.

I learned a lot.

I learned who dogpiles, who hides, what connections are with whom, and was able to extract information. For example, I once made a thread asking for a webhost in a nice, GAFer-loving fashion. Made sure it was right when I made lots of threads and Evilore was on to make sure he chimed in... and he publically mentioned his registrar, host, and part of the ones who supply the ads.

A site losing its domain registrar over controversy is nothing new, and Google is quite progressive. It'd be. shame if they caught wind and made it so the domain had to be re-registered with someone else and no one would be willing to do it due to controversy...

[Optimus]

GAF is becoming a fascinating experiment in what would happen if the moderation staff completely abandoned a fairly prominent high traffic message board. It'll be like a Chernobyl of the internet, where one can study from afar whatever mutated flora and fauna don't fuck off and leave.

The mods get replaced easily. The problem is that the cheap fuck appointed admins to manage his site for free in exchange for imaginary authority.

That's actually something I never understood about NeoGAF. Evilore made tens of thousands a month but paid the people who kept the site going nothing. Why were they all ok with this?

Because some people are so fucking pathetic that will actually work for free just to impose their shitty ideology on others or feel powerful on the internet.

Hey!

I was talking about everyone else except you, man.

[studyguy]

Seeing some fellow refugees defend "the community" and various other only a few bad eggs bullshit.

Make no mistake. The only redeeming part of Gaf was that by coincidence developers and people who actually knew what the fuck they were talking about posted about shit on there in the mid-aughts. Those people were all pushed out in the last decade, replaced by wannabes and armchair devs, supplanted by aging, bitter 30-something capital-G Gamers who sincerely believe the hobby/industry is a zero-sum game where in order for the things they personally like to succeed, the things they personally dislike must fail. That's why you see a lot of language like "If X succeeds it will just encourage more publishers and developers to do shit like this" and various flawed premises about how X thing (that they don't personally like or agree with) will be "bad for the industry," citing various vague consequences that basically all amount to "more things I dislike will be made."

These are people who think the height of criticism is the tired old Mona Lisa-as-video-game meme image that implies video games were complete, uncompromised experiences back in the 90s/00s and that todays games are tiny morsels broken up into DLC packs and pre-order incentives, completely ignoring the exponential increases in overall size, scope, and visual fidelity that today's games offer versus those in the 90s and 00s.

These are the people who feel "screwed over" and "fucked in the ass" by entertainment products, toys.

These are people who celebrate layoffs at companies because the toy the people at that company made wasn't a good enough toy in their assessment.

NeoGaf can burn. At least 4chan knows what it is. NeoGaf was the same shit with a condescending, faux-intellectual, "we're the smart forum" veneer on it.

 

[ModernBoxes]

Only minorities have opinions worth listening to. You thought you struggled when you lost half your ancestors to the potato famine? Let me tell you a little something called stop and frisk..

yeah, blacks stay treated as 2nd class citizens to this day, by every tier of our justice system
real knee slapper, that

Raise a kid to believe he'll always be a victim. Tell everyone else every little movement is a micro aggression towards said kids existence. Create a narrative that white people are born in sin and can only repent by physically doubling as a step ladder. I mean you can suck my dick i guess.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/921905286230634496

[Optimus]

(Image removed from quote.)

Evilore's own shitty site organized dozens of SJ W witchhunts against people who might be completely innocent because someone said something on the internet. He allowed that sick mentality of guilty before proven innocent because TOLERANCE. In fact many people got banned for daring to ask people think critically or be a little suspicious. The bans remained even after some of these witchhunts were proven to be hoaxes.

Even if he did absolutely nothing wrong he deserves this.

[helios]

The Statement Forcomes just like Lore tried to do in the shower

[Forgotten A. Turnbuckle]

I told my girlfriend I was gonna put our son to bed a little late so we can watch some of the Astros-Yankees game.  But really I just wanted to passively watch that while trying to catch up on this thread. 
It's worked so far, but now my son is telling me it's bedtime.
He's two and a half years old and hates going to bed.
But he just might hate baseball even more.
If I keep reading this thread he's gonna start hating me too.

Father of the year here
 

[Switters]

Could he reasonably just shut down OT altogether? I mean every thread was just one call to arms after another. The last fun thread I can remember in OT was the funhouse scare pics and that was years ago... (expansive ellipses)

[curly]

optimus coming back is the worst part of all this

fuck off, shit-for-brains

[toku]

did nudemac just post a lord jamar video?

[nudemacusers]

I told my girlfriend I was gonna put our son to bed a little late so we can watch some of the Astros-Yankees game.  But really I just wanted to passively watch that while trying to catch up on this thread. 
It's worked so far, but now my son is telling me it's bedtime.
He's two and a half years old and hates going to bed.
But he just might hate baseball even more.
If I keep reading this thread he's gonna start hating me too.

Father of the year here
 

I jus put them to bed early with no hugs or story time 

[CatsCatsCats]

Huh and after I’ve been permed all these years for accusing him of sexual assault 🤔

[Optimus]

optimus coming back is the worst part of all this

fuck off, shit-for-brains

The butthurt is strong with this one.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/921905286230634496

So we're not getting an article tonight?

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[thisismyusername]

Ya'll need to cook. Goddamn. This Taco Bell talk has me reconsidering my previous praise.

Guess what, sometimes good weed comes to you and you want to celebrate it with your boyfriend at a Taco Bell.

I'm sad this post didn't get more likes. Fuck you guys that don't know this old meme. :'(

[seagrams hotsauce]

Was HUELEN Lime?!?

https://pastebin.com/ZwnNh3AJ

Anywho, some people have wonder if I've been "playing the long game" or trolling the forum or whatever. The answer is, no.. with a but. When Stumpokopow unbanned a perma (for of all things, praising the attention to detail that a developer put on their character), I didn't want to go back to GAF, but my friends told me to DO IT because we all saw how much of a cesspool it had become while I was gone. This was our ONE OPPORTUNITY to adhere perfect to the TOS and be a "model GAF poster". So, whilst being myself, i did what I've always done. I made helpful threads, I never insulted people and I defended against bullying (GAF is FILLED with bullies). I knew that the GAF I once posted in was gone forever, so I decided to be myself, whilst playing by their rules in THIER game.

I learned a lot.

I learned who dogpiles, who hides, what connections are with whom, and was able to extract information. For example, I once made a thread asking for a webhost in a nice, GAFer-loving fashion. Made sure it was right when I made lots of threads and Evilore was on to make sure he chimed in... and he publically mentioned his registrar, host, and part of the ones who supply the ads.

A site losing its domain registrar over controversy is nothing new, and Google is quite progressive. It'd be. shame if they caught wind and made it so the domain had to be re-registered with someone else and no one would be willing to do it due to controversy...

YES

I FUCKING TOLD YOU GUYS HUELEN WAS GOLD

YESSS


VINDICATIOOOOOOON

[benjipwns]

https://pastebin.com/XUQP39JV

I am not here to dox, or condemn, not my place and I've always been one to edify instead. What I will do is talk more about the forum itself. First, let me state that I am so glad Hitokage didn't live to see this day. Not only was Malka a horrible friend to him for making fun of him just for liking My Little Pony, but overall, he was fairly open-minded all things considered (and an excellent Mario Kart Wii opponent). As for the rest of the moderation, I know for a fact that 1 of the moderators was involved in the "five guys saga", aka gamergate before it was called that? How do I know? Because when UnderGAF on /v/ got started to sympathizers, BOOGIE got involved. I talked to Boogie on /v/ and advised him I would make a thread JUST for him. I made the thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=888476 "I am NOT a bigot" to give him a soap box, whilst defending the defensible, and condemning the indefensible (because I don't take sides, i find truth, and i don't affiliate myself with anyone). I warned him with PM, that the mod would not be able to hold their ground and it WOULD honeypot, which WAS the goal (to make a hugbox become more of an echochamber so that it slowly yet surely implodes... this was ALL part of the plan, I brought the topic TO GAF because I brought up arguments which could not be countered for and against it). In the end, so many got banned, LIME got a soapbox of their own ( a blessing and a curse), and a new tone was set for the forum. Again, I want to stress that I was never a troll, or a shitposter, but rather, in the words of the electric light orchestra:
 
And when I see what they've
Done to this place that was home,
Shame is all that I feel,
And I wonder, yes I wonder, is this
The way life's meant to be.
 
I was being myself, I was just adhering to THIER game to show, FIRST HAND, how toxic a TOS with no tolerance or respect can be. My one fault which got me noticed is that I publicly denounced all bullies.
 
Next up is being queer and the election, that's gonna be a doozy!

[Boredfrom]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/921905286230634496

So we're not getting an article tonight?

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

If anything, he is also waiting for EL statement so he can help to spi... Publish it with all the facts.

[tuna_love]

Was HUELEN Lime?!?

https://pastebin.com/ZwnNh3AJ

Anywho, some people have wonder if I've been "playing the long game" or trolling the forum or whatever. The answer is, no.. with a but. When Stumpokopow unbanned a perma (for of all things, praising the attention to detail that a developer put on their character), I didn't want to go back to GAF, but my friends told me to DO IT because we all saw how much of a cesspool it had become while I was gone. This was our ONE OPPORTUNITY to adhere perfect to the TOS and be a "model GAF poster". So, whilst being myself, i did what I've always done. I made helpful threads, I never insulted people and I defended against bullying (GAF is FILLED with bullies). I knew that the GAF I once posted in was gone forever, so I decided to be myself, whilst playing by their rules in THIER game.

I learned a lot.

I learned who dogpiles, who hides, what connections are with whom, and was able to extract information. For example, I once made a thread asking for a webhost in a nice, GAFer-loving fashion. Made sure it was right when I made lots of threads and Evilore was on to make sure he chimed in... and he publically mentioned his registrar, host, and part of the ones who supply the ads.

A site losing its domain registrar over controversy is nothing new, and Google is quite progressive. It'd be. shame if they caught wind and made it so the domain had to be re-registered with someone else and no one would be willing to do it due to controversy...

YES

I FUCKING TOLD YOU GUYS HUELEN WAS GOLD

YESSS


VINDICATIOOOOOOON

can you please explain this to me like im 6?

[Pills Here]

Did their sponsor, Sony, finally pull the plug? 

[nudemacusers]

Huelen on that Oldboy shit

[El Babua]

Only minorities have opinions worth listening to. You thought you struggled when you lost half your ancestors to the potato famine? Let me tell you a little something called stop and frisk..

yeah, blacks stay treated as 2nd class citizens to this day, by every tier of our justice system
real knee slapper, that

Raise a kid to believe he'll always be a victim. Tell everyone else every little movement is a micro aggression towards said kids existence. Create a narrative that white people are born in sin and can only repent by physically doubling as a step ladder. I mean you can suck my dick i guess.

White people will be replaced and I can't fuckin wait.

[Jenkem]

https://pastebin.com/XUQP39JV

I am not here to dox, or condemn, not my place and I've always been one to edify instead. What I will do is talk more about the forum itself. First, let me state that I am so glad Hitokage didn't live to see this day. Not only was Malka a horrible friend to him for making fun of him just for liking My Little Pony, but overall, he was fairly open-minded all things considered (and an excellent Mario Kart Wii opponent). As for the rest of the moderation, I know for a fact that 1 of the moderators was involved in the "five guys saga", aka gamergate before it was called that? How do I know? Because when UnderGAF on /v/ got started to sympathizers, BOOGIE got involved. I talked to Boogie on /v/ and advised him I would make a thread JUST for him. I made the thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=888476 "I am NOT a bigot" to give him a soap box, whilst defending the defensible, and condemning the indefensible (because I don't take sides, i find truth, and i don't affiliate myself with anyone). I warned him with PM, that the mod would not be able to hold their ground and it WOULD honeypot, which WAS the goal (to make a hugbox become more of an echochamber so that it slowly yet surely implodes... this was ALL part of the plan, I brought the topic TO GAF because I brought up arguments which could not be countered for and against it). In the end, so many got banned, LIME got a soapbox of their own ( a blessing and a curse), and a new tone was set for the forum. Again, I want to stress that I was never a troll, or a shitposter, but rather, in the words of the electric light orchestra:
 
And when I see what they've
Done to this place that was home,
Shame is all that I feel,
And I wonder, yes I wonder, is this
The way life's meant to be.
 
I was being myself, I was just adhering to THIER game to show, FIRST HAND, how toxic a TOS with no tolerance or respect can be. My one fault which got me noticed is that I publicly denounced all bullies.
 
Next up is being queer and the election, that's gonna be a doozy!

this shit sounds like a /pol/ LARP

I always knew benji was a shill

[SwolDic]

https://pastebin.com/XUQP39JV

I am not here to dox, or condemn, not my place and I've always been one to edify instead. What I will do is talk more about the forum itself. First, let me state that I am so glad Hitokage didn't live to see this day. Not only was Malka a horrible friend to him for making fun of him just for liking My Little Pony, but overall, he was fairly open-minded all things considered (and an excellent Mario Kart Wii opponent). As for the rest of the moderation, I know for a fact that 1 of the moderators was involved in the "five guys saga", aka gamergate before it was called that? How do I know? Because when UnderGAF on /v/ got started to sympathizers, BOOGIE got involved. I talked to Boogie on /v/ and advised him I would make a thread JUST for him. I made the thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=888476 "I am NOT a bigot" to give him a soap box, whilst defending the defensible, and condemning the indefensible (because I don't take sides, i find truth, and i don't affiliate myself with anyone). I warned him with PM, that the mod would not be able to hold their ground and it WOULD honeypot, which WAS the goal (to make a hugbox become more of an echochamber so that it slowly yet surely implodes... this was ALL part of the plan, I brought the topic TO GAF because I brought up arguments which could not be countered for and against it). In the end, so many got banned, LIME got a soapbox of their own ( a blessing and a curse), and a new tone was set for the forum. Again, I want to stress that I was never a troll, or a shitposter, but rather, in the words of the electric light orchestra:
 
And when I see what they've
Done to this place that was home,
Shame is all that I feel,
And I wonder, yes I wonder, is this
The way life's meant to be.
 
I was being myself, I was just adhering to THIER game to show, FIRST HAND, how toxic a TOS with no tolerance or respect can be. My one fault which got me noticed is that I publicly denounced all bullies.
 
Next up is being queer and the election, that's gonna be a doozy!

put this into context for people that weren't that far deep into Gafs buttcrack.

[counterhit]

Could he reasonably just shut down OT altogether? I mean every thread was just one call to arms after another. The last fun thread I can remember in OT was the funhouse scare pics and that was years ago... (expansive ellipses)

No OT, no vigilant dog-pile brigade, any useful OT thread moved to community... just replace evilore somehow and the site would instantly become better.

[clothedmacuser]

https://pastebin.com/XUQP39JV

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=888476 "I am NOT a bigot" to give him a soap box, whilst defending the defensible, and condemning the indefensible (because I don't take sides, i find truth, and i don't affiliate myself with anyone). I warned him with PM, that the mod would not be able to hold their ground and it WOULD honeypot, which WAS the goal (to make a hugbox become more of an echochamber so that it slowly yet surely implodes... this was ALL part of the plan, I brought the topic TO GAF because I brought up arguments which could not be countered for and against it). In the end, so many got banned, LIME got a soapbox of their own ( a blessing and a curse), and a new tone was set for the forum. Again, I want to stress that I was never a troll, or a shitposter, but rather, in the words of the electric light orchestra:
 

He created Lime!!!  This is like Batman (1989)!

[SwolDic]

Could he reasonably just shut down OT altogether? I mean every thread was just one call to arms after another. The last fun thread I can remember in OT was the funhouse scare pics and that was years ago... (expansive ellipses)

No OT, no vigilant dog-pile brigade, any useful OT thread moved to community... just replace evilore somehow and the site would instantly become better.

You think it was just him? Most of those mods were shit. He wasn't even the worse one in terms of modding the site.

[omensetter]

I thought I'd never see any gaf drama would top mods covering up Ami going to jail for being a pedo but now we got double agents