I was well aware of domestic abuse and sexual assault issues before the SNES launched too.
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Quote from: Bounceounce on October 21, 2017, 11:26:54 PMIt feels good to finally post here, after considering making an account for a week or two now.I've been browsing The Bore for a few months now, as my dissatisfaction with GAF grew by the day,I started off on Gaf during the 2016 election, finding the site through looking for threads on old topics to read (something I enjoyed), and appreciating the site of a rare, highly active, straight forum.But as my lurking continued I noticed the mass grave bannings, and got a feel for the culture.I was drawn towards it being left leaning, but was unsure of whether I could properly navigate those troubled waters, though after much deliberation, I obviously took the plunge. My first account lasted under a month, I wasn't sure how to properly interact with the BCT as the slang/humor wasn't something in my vocabulary/a practice of mine as a black man, so after a few failed posts I bailed, and ended up in Poligaf, my biggest mistake, as I was not only a Bernie supporter, but I wasn't the most knowledgeable person on some fronts.My banning came hours or a day after an argument in there, with the simple message "I don't think this site is a good fit for you" (and maybe it also said that they hoped I would find a community I fit in, can't remember.)(After I found out about Bishop and his unjust election bans, I figured that it might have been from him.)My second account lasted a few days or a few weeks, I don't remember doing anything notable, so I assumed that maybe they pinged my i.p as being the same as the banner account, or I just stepped on the wrong mods toes, I don't know, I can't tech.My third and final account (of the same name as this), is where I finally managed to lay low and navigate GAF-culture, I made GAF-Hop my home, and like a servile dog I bent the knee to the sites popular opinions and tailored my opinions towards them through watering down my beliefs, omitted vocabulary I believed would get my labeled as right-wing, some of which, being terms I never felt the need to use/ever utter, until I was faced with the rabid virtue signaling and purity politics of GAF (like the two terms I just used), or just shut up when in the face of what I believed could be a potential dogpile, all behaviors in stark contrast to how I am in my personal life, or anywhere else on the web, I let the GAF machine bend me to it's will.My breaking point was when I went overboard in the Fantano thread, I couldn't handle the lack of nuance and self-eating nature of the site any longer, the toxicity had reached it's boiling point with me.None of this is a big deal, it's just a forum, I'm not doing anything impressive, and my post is over-dramatic and everything, but it feels good to vent again, the last time I was able to vent like this was election night (which felt awkward considering who won, but vindicating considering the site culture), and this is a much better place as of now.litwhat were your other account names? I saw you in gaf-hop a lot
It feels good to finally post here, after considering making an account for a week or two now.I've been browsing The Bore for a few months now, as my dissatisfaction with GAF grew by the day,I started off on Gaf during the 2016 election, finding the site through looking for threads on old topics to read (something I enjoyed), and appreciating the site of a rare, highly active, straight forum.But as my lurking continued I noticed the mass grave bannings, and got a feel for the culture.I was drawn towards it being left leaning, but was unsure of whether I could properly navigate those troubled waters, though after much deliberation, I obviously took the plunge. My first account lasted under a month, I wasn't sure how to properly interact with the BCT as the slang/humor wasn't something in my vocabulary/a practice of mine as a black man, so after a few failed posts I bailed, and ended up in Poligaf, my biggest mistake, as I was not only a Bernie supporter, but I wasn't the most knowledgeable person on some fronts.My banning came hours or a day after an argument in there, with the simple message "I don't think this site is a good fit for you" (and maybe it also said that they hoped I would find a community I fit in, can't remember.)(After I found out about Bishop and his unjust election bans, I figured that it might have been from him.)My second account lasted a few days or a few weeks, I don't remember doing anything notable, so I assumed that maybe they pinged my i.p as being the same as the banner account, or I just stepped on the wrong mods toes, I don't know, I can't tech.My third and final account (of the same name as this), is where I finally managed to lay low and navigate GAF-culture, I made GAF-Hop my home, and like a servile dog I bent the knee to the sites popular opinions and tailored my opinions towards them through watering down my beliefs, omitted vocabulary I believed would get my labeled as right-wing, some of which, being terms I never felt the need to use/ever utter, until I was faced with the rabid virtue signaling and purity politics of GAF (like the two terms I just used), or just shut up when in the face of what I believed could be a potential dogpile, all behaviors in stark contrast to how I am in my personal life, or anywhere else on the web, I let the GAF machine bend me to it's will.My breaking point was when I went overboard in the Fantano thread, I couldn't handle the lack of nuance and self-eating nature of the site any longer, the toxicity had reached it's boiling point with me.None of this is a big deal, it's just a forum, I'm not doing anything impressive, and my post is over-dramatic and everything, but it feels good to vent again, the last time I was able to vent like this was election night (which felt awkward considering who won, but vindicating considering the site culture), and this is a much better place as of now.lit
I feel for those who never saw pre-2011 gaf.
Quote from: Eteric on October 21, 2017, 11:25:01 PMThe problem with NeoGAF was that you were either with the hive mind, or against them. You couldn't even have a moderate opinion on anything without getting banned. You were always on egg shells.Moderate became a slur on the level of nazi. Once that happens in a community you have to imagine it will implode.
The problem with NeoGAF was that you were either with the hive mind, or against them. You couldn't even have a moderate opinion on anything without getting banned. You were always on egg shells.
The thought of never seeing another CrossingEden post ever again
Quote from: clothedmacuser on October 21, 2017, 11:29:28 PMQuote from: Eteric on October 21, 2017, 11:25:01 PMThe problem with NeoGAF was that you were either with the hive mind, or against them. You couldn't even have a moderate opinion on anything without getting banned. You were always on egg shells.Moderate became a slur on the level of nazi. Once that happens in a community you have to imagine it will implode.Considering how far most of the forum was in the tank for Hillary, they're more radical centrists than anything. If you were a leftist during the election you'd get run out of threads for not bending the knee to yas qween.
The joy at seeing that evil place crash and burn is somewhat offset by the floodgates opening and knowing that so many of its community, carefully cultivated by and for delusional "punch a Nazi," gamergate / Russian / Trump conspiracy theory spewing LWNJ types won't just go back to the darkness of tumblr whence they came.
Quote from: Dougstyles on October 21, 2017, 11:32:42 PMI feel for those who never saw pre-2011 gaf.2011, pfft. I feel for those who never saw pre-2004 GAF.
Quote from: Dougstyles on October 21, 2017, 11:32:42 PMI feel for those who never saw pre-2011 gaf.I'd say even pre 2015 gaf.
The joy at seeing that evil place crash and burn is somewhat offset by the floodgates opening and knowing that so many from its community, carefully cultivated by and for delusional "punch a Nazi," gamergate / Russian / Trump conspiracy theory spewing LWNJ types won't just go back to the darkness of tumblr whence they came.
Ironically if you look at OT now it's the best NeoGAF's been since 2008
GAF is back up.
Quote from: foxboro on October 21, 2017, 11:34:49 PMQuote from: clothedmacuser on October 21, 2017, 11:29:28 PMQuote from: Eteric on October 21, 2017, 11:25:01 PMThe problem with NeoGAF was that you were either with the hive mind, or against them. You couldn't even have a moderate opinion on anything without getting banned. You were always on egg shells.Moderate became a slur on the level of nazi. Once that happens in a community you have to imagine it will implode.Considering how far most of the forum was in the tank for Hillary, they're more radical centrists than anything. If you were a leftist during the election you'd get run out of threads for not bending the knee to yas qween.Yeah that was obnoxious. In hindsight it did more damage than good to not call them out sooner.
Quote from: JayDubya on October 21, 2017, 11:35:33 PMThe joy at seeing that evil place crash and burn is somewhat offset by the floodgates opening and knowing that so many of its community, carefully cultivated by and for delusional "punch a Nazi," gamergate / Russian / Trump conspiracy theory spewing LWNJ types won't just go back to the darkness of tumblr whence they came.>implying GAF anti-fa will actually punch out nazis
Quote from: Geno Breaker;252746645Yes, MHWilliams stated that he and the mods stepped down in solidarity against Evilore.Trump finally made GAF great again
Yes, MHWilliams stated that he and the mods stepped down in solidarity against Evilore.
Quote from: jacob.armitage on October 21, 2017, 11:34:06 PMQuote from: Dougstyles on October 21, 2017, 11:32:42 PMI feel for those who never saw pre-2011 gaf.I'd say even pre 2015 gaf.I think early 2013 was the cut off point tbh.
Quote from: thehunter116 on October 21, 2017, 11:35:59 PMQuote from: foxboro on October 21, 2017, 11:34:49 PMQuote from: clothedmacuser on October 21, 2017, 11:29:28 PMQuote from: Eteric on October 21, 2017, 11:25:01 PMThe problem with NeoGAF was that you were either with the hive mind, or against them. You couldn't even have a moderate opinion on anything without getting banned. You were always on egg shells.Moderate became a slur on the level of nazi. Once that happens in a community you have to imagine it will implode.Considering how far most of the forum was in the tank for Hillary, they're more radical centrists than anything. If you were a leftist during the election you'd get run out of threads for not bending the knee to yas qween.Yeah that was obnoxious. In hindsight it did more damage than good to not call them out sooner.Are we dogging on Hillary supporters instead of the Bernie Bros? I am starting to think I have selective memory.
Quote from: Dosukebe on October 21, 2017, 11:35:11 PMGAF is back up....And some of the guys who said they stepped down are still listed as mods.
Quote from: thisismyusername on October 21, 2017, 11:36:16 PMQuote from: JayDubya on October 21, 2017, 11:35:33 PMThe joy at seeing that evil place crash and burn is somewhat offset by the floodgates opening and knowing that so many of its community, carefully cultivated by and for delusional "punch a Nazi," gamergate / Russian / Trump conspiracy theory spewing LWNJ types won't just go back to the darkness of tumblr whence they came.>implying GAF anti-fa will actually punch out nazis If I see a Nazi hurting someone I'll do more than punch them.Those things have no place in civilized society.
They're not centrists, they're neoliberals. Neoliberals are rightwingers who cosplay as left or center by spamming dumb identity politics drama while their corrupt leaders continue decimating the middle class.
Quote from: JayDubya on October 21, 2017, 11:35:33 PMThe joy at seeing that evil place crash and burn is somewhat offset by the floodgates opening and knowing that so many from its community, carefully cultivated by and for delusional "punch a Nazi," gamergate / Russian / Trump conspiracy theory spewing LWNJ types won't just go back to the darkness of tumblr whence they came.Russian connections to Trump are now conspiracy?Oh boy...you're one of those things.
Speaking of bullies, so many fucking bullies on GAF... Silver Arrows, Excelsiorfsomethign and Y2Kev all come to mind. They should watch a children's show to explain it, maybe they could learn something. Anywho, Mr. Black. Who is Mr. Black? Mr. Black is a person who has been reading GAF since the "SuperKyro thread". They frequent SA. I met them on an IRC that both he and Hitokage posted at around the time Mario Kart Wii came out. They personally knew a moderator, and I believe are the source, or one of the sources fro nickmon1112's GAf writings. They are NOT nickmon1112 though, because I linked my own things to them directly over Twitter DM. What things? Just 2 major ones. The Pickles Screencap which I pinned on my twitter page @HUELEN10 and SHIGERU MIYAMOTO IS DEAD https://imgur.com/a/2IOY4 I'll post the whose thread and links shortly, it's just weirdly archived and formatted, but in this gaming side thread which lasted way longer than it was expected to, MaximoffZero speaks of Lime's racism and the horrible moderation and hypocrisy. I don't think it ever got posted here, but it had everything at the time. Based on this, I THINK but cannot be sure that he is Mr. Black. Who knows? Point is, by this point, MOST of the forum knew about the internal issues, but did not speak up... until today.
By sheer coincidence, poly saw a woman make a post on facebook where she described an unwanted encounter with Tyler Malka. He made screenshots, distributed the images, and then three days later they started filtering their way on to neogaf. A few mods resigned/were banned and a few users were scrubbed from the site entirely (backslashbunny's account was renamed and all of her posts removed). This gave the woman's account more plausibility (members see mods resigning, so they think there might be some fire to go with that smoke) and people began asking WTF was going on. Initially, these threads were shut, so people began discussing Evilore's alleged sexual assault in other threads. Some of these other threads were locked, but one by one the mods began to resign and those who remained didn't seem interested in covering up for Evilore anymore. We're now at the point where the entire forum is in open rebellion. Multiple people, including myself, have posted images detailing Evilore's European sexual exploits as well as his decision to leak olimario's gf's nudes. No one's getting banned (although I'm sure I will be if the forum survive). All admins except one have resigned. Around 10 mods have officially resigned, but I've heard an additional 3 - 4 are also done with GAF... but there's no one left to remove them so their names remain on the staff page.
Gaf is better than this, despite all that has happened. I still want to believe that things can go back to normal somehow ...
Quote from: Father_Brain on October 21, 2017, 11:28:31 PMPoliGAF helped move me further to the left with its incessant pile-ons on anyone who dared slander KhaleesiThere were good posters in there who didn't group think or at least purity test everything.
PoliGAF helped move me further to the left with its incessant pile-ons on anyone who dared slander Khaleesi
Quote from: thehunter116 on October 21, 2017, 11:36:53 PMQuote from: JayDubya on October 21, 2017, 11:35:33 PMThe joy at seeing that evil place crash and burn is somewhat offset by the floodgates opening and knowing that so many from its community, carefully cultivated by and for delusional "punch a Nazi," gamergate / Russian / Trump conspiracy theory spewing LWNJ types won't just go back to the darkness of tumblr whence they came.Russian connections to Trump are now conspiracy?Oh boy...you're one of those things.It’s best to just ignore him. You can’t reason with Jay.
Quote from: thehunter116 on October 21, 2017, 11:29:58 PMQuote from: Father_Brain on October 21, 2017, 11:28:31 PMPoliGAF helped move me further to the left with its incessant pile-ons on anyone who dared slander KhaleesiThere were good posters in there who didn't group think or at least purity test everything.Like sphagnum, crab, and Valhelm, sure. Dunno how any leftist (who didn't incessantly bash other leftists in explicit defense of centrist Democrats, anyway, TOTALLY NOT THINKING OF ANYONE IN PARTICULAR HERE) kept posting there, lord knows I gave up earlier this year.
FUCKI wake up to 40 pages, 500 people online and neogaf down and i'm thinking i missed the whole thing.Did lionel mandrake sign up here yet so i can get a decent recap or do i need to sift through the whole thread?=
Quote from: Optimus on October 21, 2017, 11:16:00 PMQuote from: GrimBorne on October 21, 2017, 11:02:39 PMGAF turned to shit when the warriors took over with Amirox, Lime and Crossing Eden as their kings. They are the most vile and toxic gaming community on the web. Hundreds of people banned every week for not following the hivemind. A bunch of blood-starved psychos obsessed with feminists, alt-right and GG. Everyday they had a new game to shit on and "boycott" because it didn't follow their twisted "values". I hope Jim Sterling is next, another toxic blight in gaming.I'm mostly writing this to quote myself when it happens but Jim Sterling looks exactly like the type of higher than thou male feminist that is sexual predator. People have even compiled a list with those hypocritical fucks being exposed one after another after another after another....I wouldn't be surprised if he is a pedophile. He has the look and demeanor.
Quote from: GrimBorne on October 21, 2017, 11:02:39 PMGAF turned to shit when the warriors took over with Amirox, Lime and Crossing Eden as their kings. They are the most vile and toxic gaming community on the web. Hundreds of people banned every week for not following the hivemind. A bunch of blood-starved psychos obsessed with feminists, alt-right and GG. Everyday they had a new game to shit on and "boycott" because it didn't follow their twisted "values". I hope Jim Sterling is next, another toxic blight in gaming.I'm mostly writing this to quote myself when it happens but Jim Sterling looks exactly like the type of higher than thou male feminist that is sexual predator. People have even compiled a list with those hypocritical fucks being exposed one after another after another after another....
GAF turned to shit when the warriors took over with Amirox, Lime and Crossing Eden as their kings. They are the most vile and toxic gaming community on the web. Hundreds of people banned every week for not following the hivemind. A bunch of blood-starved psychos obsessed with feminists, alt-right and GG. Everyday they had a new game to shit on and "boycott" because it didn't follow their twisted "values". I hope Jim Sterling is next, another toxic blight in gaming.
Is it really down again?
Newbies, don't bring up politics anything with the following people and you'll have a much better experience here on TheBore.com™.etoiletJayDubyaAm_I_Anonymous
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 21, 2017, 11:40:25 PMQuote from: thehunter116 on October 21, 2017, 11:36:53 PMQuote from: JayDubya on October 21, 2017, 11:35:33 PMThe joy at seeing that evil place crash and burn is somewhat offset by the floodgates opening and knowing that so many from its community, carefully cultivated by and for delusional "punch a Nazi," gamergate / Russian / Trump conspiracy theory spewing LWNJ types won't just go back to the darkness of tumblr whence they came.Russian connections to Trump are now conspiracy?Oh boy...you're one of those things.It’s best to just ignore him. You can’t reason with Jay.Do you keep him around like an animal in the zoo?I mean that's were his kind belong but at least we're starting out somewhere.
Admins:Timan (online or O)Mods:AeanaChichikovConfusing Jazz (O)Cornballerduckrollfaceless007FalkFunky PapaGhaleonEB (O) - previously said he was stepping downGotchayeHyoushijohn tvjshackles (O)KagariLionel Mandrakem0dus (O)MHWilliams (O) - thought to have stepped downMinscMore_Badass (O)RoboleonSeda (O)shinra-banshoShoutaSteve YoungbloodStoOgestupeiTeknopathic (O)Tim the WizXiaNaphryzY2KevZeliardThat's what's showing on the site right now.
Why is the outside opinion of gaf seemingly so bad?
Salty banned users and gamergate types who hate that users and mods here are more accepting and open to treating people like people no matter what they look like or their gender or sexuality.
Salt over getting banned and gamergate/right wing types that can't handle people who have liberal views, especially when it's a large concentration of people with said views.
The site took a no tolerance stance on Gamergaters and their shitty harassment campaign. Gamergate is now celebrating
most of them were previously banned users. A lot of the outrage seems to be coming from gamergaters as well.
It's a shame that other forums seemingly welcome their bullshit with open arms. End of an era. GAF was truly special.
Quote from: ModernBoxes on October 21, 2017, 11:37:36 PMQuote from: thehunter116 on October 21, 2017, 11:35:59 PMQuote from: foxboro on October 21, 2017, 11:34:49 PMQuote from: clothedmacuser on October 21, 2017, 11:29:28 PMQuote from: Eteric on October 21, 2017, 11:25:01 PMThe problem with NeoGAF was that you were either with the hive mind, or against them. You couldn't even have a moderate opinion on anything without getting banned. You were always on egg shells.Moderate became a slur on the level of nazi. Once that happens in a community you have to imagine it will implode.Considering how far most of the forum was in the tank for Hillary, they're more radical centrists than anything. If you were a leftist during the election you'd get run out of threads for not bending the knee to yas qween.Yeah that was obnoxious. In hindsight it did more damage than good to not call them out sooner.Are we dogging on Hillary supporters instead of the Bernie Bros? I am starting to think I have selective memory.No, just calling out the hypocritical nature of it all. People needed to let that shit die sooner is all.
I'm sure Y2Kev will continue to post like he has some kind of head injury.
This is not GAF dude, he is an asshole that is mostly wrong but he has the right to participate.
Quote from: Kevtones on October 21, 2017, 11:40:56 PMAdmins:Timan (online or O)Mods:AeanaChichikovConfusing Jazz (O)Cornballerduckrollfaceless007FalkFunky PapaGhaleonEB (O) - previously said he was stepping downGotchayeHyoushijohn tvjshackles (O)KagariLionel Mandrakem0dus (O)MHWilliams (O) - thought to have stepped downMinscMore_Badass (O)RoboleonSeda (O)shinra-banshoShoutaSteve YoungbloodStoOgestupeiTeknopathic (O)Tim the WizXiaNaphryzY2KevZeliardThat's what's showing on the site right now.so who is the one banning people and closing threads??