Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Boogie]

Why did you decide to be a pedophile?

Why did you hate the Wrestling community?

(that was you, right?)

I'm not a pedophile. I wasn't then, and I'm not now. Since leaving GAF, I have gotten married, and I love my wife dearly. It's worth noting that the thread I left GAF over was heavily redacted -- except for my posts, since I didn't feel obligated to rescind statements I still believed were reasonable -- which makes it difficult to read, since it's not clear what happened or what prompted my responses.

If you want a short response: I believe that it's a really big bummer that people grow up with pedophilic tendencies through no fault of their own. It sucks that we can never let them express their sexual needs (and to be clear, we really can't) the way we can let everybody else do so, and it must feel horrible to keep your sexual desires bottled up inside your entire life or else face (justifiable) persecution. It's a horrible life to be born in to.

One other point I made is that this discussion is so toxic, so emotionally driven for most people, that simply suggesting a shred of sympathy for pedophiles made people suspect you of being a pedophile yourself --  a point that was rather amply demonstrated by the response.

As for Wrestling GAF, I legitimately do not know where that sense came from. I had no particular issues with Wrestling GAF. It's possible that Wrestling GAF hated me, but I did not hate them.

Okay, that’s all well and good, but what about that Flickr account (or whatever site it was) of yours with the creepy pics, hmmm?

[ModernBoxes]

Why did you decide to be a pedophile?

Why did you hate the Wrestling community?

(that was you, right?)

I'm not a pedophile. I wasn't then, and I'm not now. Since leaving GAF, I have gotten married, and I love my wife dearly. It's worth noting that the thread I left GAF over was heavily redacted -- except for my posts, since I didn't feel obligated to rescind statements I still believed were reasonable -- which makes it difficult to read, since it's not clear what happened or what prompted my responses.

If you want a short response: I believe that it's a really big bummer that people grow up with pedophilic tendencies through no fault of their own. It sucks that we can never let them express their sexual needs (and to be clear, we really can't) the way we can let everybody else do so, and it must feel horrible to keep your sexual desires bottled up inside your entire life or else face (justifiable) persecution. It's a horrible life to be born in to.

One other point I made is that this discussion is so toxic, so emotionally driven for most people, that simply suggesting a shred of sympathy for pedophiles made people suspect you of being a pedophile yourself --  a point that was rather amply demonstrated by the response.

As for Wrestling GAF, I legitimately do not know where that sense came from. I had no particular issues with Wrestling GAF. It's possible that Wrestling GAF hated me, but I did not hate them.

You know why the discussion is charged and everyone hates paedos? Because they abuse children or encourage abuse by consuming the content created by child abusers. There is no shade of grey, you trying to create one or even showing sympathy to the bastards is disturbing.

All pedos either abuse or consume content? No gray? What are all these gay rights things? What's up with men born in a women's body and vice versa? You're telling me pedos are the one exception where the way they're wired should send them to jail from birth? You might be a hypocrite.

[Himu]

So the gaf mods are going to try to recreate gaf but without Tyler? Now that people don't have cause for their loyalty, no one got time for that.

[Opiate]

Follow up for Opiate and last for me, reading your post mentioning the estrangement with the rest of the staff : Are you Russian ?

I am an American of primarily German descent. I grew up in Saint Louis, went to Columbia University in New York, lived there for several years afterwards, then returned to Saint Louis to be with family and friends (and because I got a better job with higher pay and lower cost of living).

[nudemacusers]

Let’s not forget besada’s special project posters & ban agenda that he pm’d to gaf users. I recall him popping around here before that blew up, then ghosting completely afterward. Pretty sad to be so desperate for cool points on the internet but running and hiding once shit gets unfavorable.

[Opiate]

Why did you decide to be a pedophile?

Why did you hate the Wrestling community?

(that was you, right?)

I'm not a pedophile. I wasn't then, and I'm not now. Since leaving GAF, I have gotten married, and I love my wife dearly. It's worth noting that the thread I left GAF over was heavily redacted -- except for my posts, since I didn't feel obligated to rescind statements I still believed were reasonable -- which makes it difficult to read, since it's not clear what happened or what prompted my responses.

If you want a short response: I believe that it's a really big bummer that people grow up with pedophilic tendencies through no fault of their own. It sucks that we can never let them express their sexual needs (and to be clear, we really can't) the way we can let everybody else do so, and it must feel horrible to keep your sexual desires bottled up inside your entire life or else face (justifiable) persecution. It's a horrible life to be born in to.

One other point I made is that this discussion is so toxic, so emotionally driven for most people, that simply suggesting a shred of sympathy for pedophiles made people suspect you of being a pedophile yourself --  a point that was rather amply demonstrated by the response.

As for Wrestling GAF, I legitimately do not know where that sense came from. I had no particular issues with Wrestling GAF. It's possible that Wrestling GAF hated me, but I did not hate them.

Okay, that’s all well and good, but what about that Flickr account (or whatever site it was) of yours with the creepy pics, hmmm?

Someone pointed that out to me, and it was funny, because I have literally never been on Flickr (or Tumlbr, or Instagram). In other words: it wasn't me. They found a guy with my name and... I suppose simply assumed it was me, or something. I can't figure out how they became convinced it was me rather than "this could possibly be Opiate."

[John Dunbar]

what are the odds evilore is just keeping the site down while looking for a buyer?

[Nabbis]

How the fuck do you guys that live and breath Gaf don't see the shitty bans all over the place?  Christ.

[ModernBoxes]

Bish would not be the one to salvage that site. Hell, he was one of the main people that turned that place into the echo chamber it was.

I am kind of happy all this shit is going down because it may result in a better Neogaf without all the shitty narrative. EviLore just needs to provide a sincere and honest explanation. If that causes a mass exodus then that's fine, those people that leave are what made NeoGAF simply intolerable in the first place.

NeoGAF is fine for talking about videogames and off topic garbage, but it sure did make you feel like you had a huge fucking target on your back if you said something that didn't fit in (and we are not even talking about historically offensive viewpoints, you could simply go bye bye for having a contrasting opinion that most normal people wouldn't bat an eye at).

for instance?

I was banned for explaining to an OP that cuck is an insult intended to hurt feelings and he can't decide what words are used to insult him.

so you were calling him a cuck?

Not at all and would never. The guy made the post condemning the usage of the word. I was simply saying that no one gets to choose the words used against them only how they react to the insult. It wasn't the hill I thought I'd die on, my point felt pretty clear but I'm guessing it was too close to the election and a little bit of friendly fire in the form of a permaban was due.

[Kartik]

Thanks for explaining your POV Opiate. I believe you. I hope we get iapetus here too.

[Switters]

Came for the STATEMENT and all I got is Opiate. I guess that will have to do for now. Somebody get Mumei in here with links to obscure books I can read while we wait.

[REDPILLALPH ABIGCOCK]

So the gaf mods are going to try to recreate gaf but without Tyler? Now that people don't have cause for their loyalty, no one got time for that.

You can definitely 100% put your faith in all the other mods, Tyler was the only bad one there will ever be. Amir0x doesnt count because reasons, also ignore the other times they all covered for Tyler. They're good people, it's not that this time there was just too much attention, it's because they are pure souls

[Opiate]

Erroneous post.

[zomgbbqftw]

Why did you decide to be a pedophile?

Why did you hate the Wrestling community?

(that was you, right?)

I'm not a pedophile. I wasn't then, and I'm not now. Since leaving GAF, I have gotten married, and I love my wife dearly. It's worth noting that the thread I left GAF over was heavily redacted -- except for my posts, since I didn't feel obligated to rescind statements I still believed were reasonable -- which makes it difficult to read, since it's not clear what happened or what prompted my responses.

If you want a short response: I believe that it's a really big bummer that people grow up with pedophilic tendencies through no fault of their own. It sucks that we can never let them express their sexual needs (and to be clear, we really can't) the way we can let everybody else do so, and it must feel horrible to keep your sexual desires bottled up inside your entire life or else face (justifiable) persecution. It's a horrible life to be born in to.

One other point I made is that this discussion is so toxic, so emotionally driven for most people, that simply suggesting a shred of sympathy for pedophiles made people suspect you of being a pedophile yourself --  a point that was rather amply demonstrated by the response.

As for Wrestling GAF, I legitimately do not know where that sense came from. I had no particular issues with Wrestling GAF. It's possible that Wrestling GAF hated me, but I did not hate them.

You know why the discussion is charged and everyone hates paedos? Because they abuse children or encourage abuse by consuming the content created by child abusers. There is no shade of grey, you trying to create one or even showing sympathy to the bastards is disturbing.

All pedos either abuse or consume content? No gray? What are all these gay rights things? What's up with men born in a women's body and vice versa? You're telling me pedos are the one exception where the way they're wired should send them to jail from birth? You might be a hypocrite.

A gay person or transgender person doesn't harm others or intend harm on others by the sexual orientation. Unless you are saying that being gay or trans is harmful to other people and children there is no equivalence to be drawn. Wiring or not, paedos are a danger to society and need to be kept separate.

[KING MOKU]

Well, this is certainly interesting. I don't know if many of you remember me(I certainly remember a few like smokeydave, davepoo, demi, etc)but I posted under moku at neogaf back in the day(long time ago now)and I rountinly got into it with amir0x constantly calling him out on his bullshit, and even creating and posting gifs doing so. (One was of fingers squishing his avatars head. He really hated that one)

In any event I got perma banned by amir0x for arguing about something. I was always respectful, never did anything to merit a ban. amir0x just couldn't take me calling him out constantly so he dropped the hammer. Not one mod, or admin would lift it so I just moved on. Never went the anger route just knew I was banned for giving it to amir0x and that was enough. I never even knew about this website until the current shitstorm happened.

Well, I've got to say, watching amir0x fall into the depths of hell being a confirmed pedo/sicko and now Lore being exposed for what he is has been cathartic in a way. I never really cared that much(missed being a part of the community and media create threads)but after having watched gaf turn into an extremist left-wing toxic echo chamber where either you agree or your a nazi I'm actually glad I was banned all those years ago.

I am free to browse different forums and have free exchange of ideas and have civil discourse about political matters, and videogames.

Unlike amir0x who will undoubtedly be serving time. So thanks for the ban amir0x, and maybe you will look back in 6 years and say thanks for your ban from society.

Kinda interesting to watch the cesspool burn from afar, and also nice to know Lore is sweating bullets. This is what asshat people get, and deserve.

[radioheadrule83]

Climbing in showers behind recently vomiting spoken-for girls is wrong, but it's kind of hilarious how easy it would have been to act like a human, show some humility and explain himself. Literally needed a "I was drunk, misread the situation, made an unwanted pass, I never told anyone about it because I was rightfully ashamed" yadda yadda yadda. Or actually, if there's an element of it that's unfair or untrue, he could have defended himself.

Suspect he knew GAF would go crazy at him and whip up mass hysteria either way. Which is a symptom of the echo chamber.

Nope. Coral the mods! Tell them a story! Shut it all down!

NRA supporters and the kind of republiscum who use words like "Obummer" usually are idiot hicks fwiw. It's like Idiocracy is a documentary from the future, Evil Corp from Mr Robot is a real thing, and the first Galactic Empire actually began because palpatine hated Muslims.

[Momo]

Came for the STATEMENT and all I got is Opiate. I guess that will have to do for now. Somebody get Mumei in here with links to obscure books I can read while we wait.

Well this is one way to slow down this thread

[exGAF]

So the gaf mods are going to try to recreate gaf but without Tyler? Now that people don't have cause for their loyalty, no one got time for that.

Yes, exactly. That'll just be echo chamber 2.0. Therefore, please join ExGAF.com and let's create something better!

[ModernBoxes]

So the gaf mods are going to try to recreate gaf but without Tyler? Now that people don't have cause for their loyalty, no one got time for that.

You can definitely 100% put your faith in all the other mods, Tyler was the only bad one there will ever be. Amir0x doesnt count because reasons, also ignore the other times they all covered for Tyler. They're good people, it's not that this time there was just too much attention, it's because they are pure souls

Stump and besada need to take some stock out of the company that builds hoverrounds and fly away. They don't need to be moderating a fucking thing. Many of the others were very complicit.

[brobuzz]

I believe that it's a really big bummer that people grow up with pedophilic tendencies through no fault of their own. It sucks that we can never let them express their sexual needs

Hey, wow, we really are becoming Gaf 2.0.

This is like a NAMBLA opening speech.

Does NAMLBA also suggest that pedophilia should be illegal and that people who indulge their tendencies should be put in jail? Is that also in their handbook? Because those are things I also believe.

It seems to be difficult for some people to keep two conflicting thoughts in their head simultaneously, so I'll create a simple analogy for the sake of clarity: imagine someone steals food from a grocery store. Is that it illegal? Yes. Should that person go to jail? Probably. But what if they were penniless and starving, or had starving children at home? Well, they still need to go to jail, because it's still wrong and the law is straightforward. But surely you'd have some sympathy, too, because desperate people often do bad things.

It's possible to 1) suggest that pedophiles go to jail if they act on their tendencies but 2) boy, that's a super crappy hand to get in dealt in life, and believe both at the same time.

Why were you complicit in creating a echo chamber environment where the mods regularly went on power trips, banning everyone they disagreed with, or everyone who wasn't far-left?

[Masquerader]

Came for the STATEMENT and all I got is Opiate. I guess that will have to do for now. Somebody get Mumei in here with links to obscure books I can read while we wait.

I know some of his opnions were controversial, but I always liked Mumei and would unironically like him to join so we can hear his perspective, and get those sweet obscure book links.

[TypicalVoatShitlord]

Climbing in showers behind recently vomiting spoken-for girls is wrong, but it's kind of hilarious how easy it would have been to act like a human, show some humility and explain himself.

If Ima were actually into Tyler she wouldn't have been trying to drink up the courage to bone.

[nudemacusers]

Let’s be clear about one thing and one thing only: amirox is an accused pedephile and has yet to be convicted. Please be precise with your words.

Also, it’s horrifying how people are just readily accepting this sexual assault narrative and not at all looking into the 343/Microsoft MCC connection.

[Bamelin]

Kinda crazy how it all went down.  Goes to show how poorly moderated that place was when your userbase can use just turn on you like that.  Tyler never really fostered a healthy, collaborative culture in recent years.

Hey, he fostered that environment. Cater to ultra-Social Studies Warriors and they will turn on you the second they find out that you're not the paragon of virtue they imagined you to be.

Yeah, all he needed to do is say I was drunk, did dumb things, apologized. Let's move on.  It's funny how GAF became so puritanically unforgiving.

Oh gosh, don't say that. Next thing you know sobriety will be a requirement of the website. Let the purity tests begin!

I actually like Evilore.  He's obviously far from a perfect dude and has some issues with having an ultra thin skin.  But recent posts of his have shown that he knows where the site ended up and basically was not sure how to stop it.  But he created a Frankenstein monster that turned on him.

Also, I think Bish will be back to him salvage what's left. He was his closest bro on the site

Bish would not be the one to salvage that site. Hell, he was one of the main people that turned that place into the echo chamber it was.

I am kind of happy all this shit is going down because it may result in a better Neogaf without all the shitty narrative. EviLore just needs to provide a sincere and honest explanation. If that causes a mass exodus then that's fine, those people that leave are what made NeoGAF simply intolerable in the first place.

NeoGAF is fine for talking about videogames and off topic garbage, but it sure did make you feel like you had a huge fucking target on your back if you said something that didn't fit in (and we are not even talking about historically offensive viewpoints, you could simply go bye bye for having a contrasting opinion that most normal people wouldn't bat an eye at).

for instance?

All you had to say was that you voted for Trump and you would get banned.

I can attest to that!

[Widdle Puppy]

Bish would not be the one to salvage that site. Hell, he was one of the main people that turned that place into the echo chamber it was.

I am kind of happy all this shit is going down because it may result in a better Neogaf without all the shitty narrative. EviLore just needs to provide a sincere and honest explanation. If that causes a mass exodus then that's fine, those people that leave are what made NeoGAF simply intolerable in the first place.

NeoGAF is fine for talking about videogames and off topic garbage, but it sure did make you feel like you had a huge fucking target on your back if you said something that didn't fit in (and we are not even talking about historically offensive viewpoints, you could simply go bye bye for having a contrasting opinion that most normal people wouldn't bat an eye at).

for instance?

I was banned for explaining to an OP that cuck is an insult intended to hurt feelings and he can't decide what words are used to insult him.

so you were calling him a cuck?

Not at all and would never. The guy made the post condemning the usage of the word. I was simply saying that no one gets to choose the words used against them only how they react to the insult. It wasn't the hill I thought I'd die on my point felt pretty clear but I'm guessing it was too close to the Trumpers narrative.

I see... I'm not blind to there having been many silly bans at Neogaf. I was banned for two weeks for calling a guy a "dope" when he first called me a "dumbass." He walked out of the exchange scot-free. Old member with a cool tag and mod friends. It was silly but I didn't care and wasn't offended or sensitive about it like a lot of people are when banned from GAF. I would say most perma bans there were deserved. There were some that might not have deserved losing their account but most bans there were justifiable and you really had little to worry about there as long as you didn't call people names and showed them respect like you would someone in person. It wasn't perfect and yes it was an echo chamber but it was one of the few active places where you could go to avoid scummy GGs and similar tier posters.

[MMaRsu]

Let’s be clear about one thing and one thing only: amirox is an accused pedephile and has yet to be convicted. Please be precise with your words.

Also, it’s horrifying how people are just readily accepting this sexual assault narrative and not at all looking into the 343/Microsoft MCC connection.

Even though he hasn't been convicted yet, didn't they actually find child pornography on his computer?

[fistfulofmetal]

If I was running a website I'd ban anyone who admitted to voting for Trump. 

don't want trash like this in my community

[Mochilador]

what are the odds evilore is just keeping the site down while looking for a buyer?

It's possible. Crazy times.

[radioheadrule83]

Let’s be clear about one thing and one thing only: amirox is an accused pedephile and has yet to be convicted. Please be precise with your words.

Also, it’s horrifying how people are just readily accepting this sexual assault narrative and not at all looking into the 343/Microsoft MCC connection.

Master Chief Collection is somehow behind this character assassination?

Genuinely no idea what you're talking about btw, is the accuser connected to 343?

[Mrtoughpants]

How the fuck do you guys that live and breath Gaf don't see the shitty bans all over the place?  Christ.

They fucking banned me twice for posting pics of women I banged. Socially inept fucks

[nudemacusers]

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871

WELP.

The failing Rolling Stone spreading alt-right propaganda for clicks. Sad!

[Luxray]

Shithole still down, huh. Pathetic.

[ModernBoxes]

Why did you decide to be a pedophile?

Why did you hate the Wrestling community?

(that was you, right?)

I'm not a pedophile. I wasn't then, and I'm not now. Since leaving GAF, I have gotten married, and I love my wife dearly. It's worth noting that the thread I left GAF over was heavily redacted -- except for my posts, since I didn't feel obligated to rescind statements I still believed were reasonable -- which makes it difficult to read, since it's not clear what happened or what prompted my responses.

If you want a short response: I believe that it's a really big bummer that people grow up with pedophilic tendencies through no fault of their own. It sucks that we can never let them express their sexual needs (and to be clear, we really can't) the way we can let everybody else do so, and it must feel horrible to keep your sexual desires bottled up inside your entire life or else face (justifiable) persecution. It's a horrible life to be born in to.

One other point I made is that this discussion is so toxic, so emotionally driven for most people, that simply suggesting a shred of sympathy for pedophiles made people suspect you of being a pedophile yourself --  a point that was rather amply demonstrated by the response.

As for Wrestling GAF, I legitimately do not know where that sense came from. I had no particular issues with Wrestling GAF. It's possible that Wrestling GAF hated me, but I did not hate them.

You know why the discussion is charged and everyone hates paedos? Because they abuse children or encourage abuse by consuming the content created by child abusers. There is no shade of grey, you trying to create one or even showing sympathy to the bastards is disturbing.

All pedos either abuse or consume content? No gray? What are all these gay rights things? What's up with men born in a women's body and vice versa? You're telling me pedos are the one exception where the way they're wired should send them to jail from birth? You might be a hypocrite.

A gay person or transgender person doesn't harm others or intend harm on others by the sexual orientation. Unless you are saying that being gay or trans is harmful to other people and children there is no equivalence to be drawn. Wiring or not, paedos are a danger to society and need to be kept separate.

Anyone can harm anyone. Mere existence does not mean they intend to harm. They've not committed crimes just from wiring alone. There should be things in place to convince those types to come forward before crimes occur. The lock them all up way of thinking is why they're in the shadows committing crimes. Your ideas place them in jail at birth. I would never suggest such a thing for gays and trans people whose orientation is also not their fault.

[nudemacusers]

Let’s be clear about one thing and one thing only: amirox is an accused pedephile and has yet to be convicted. Please be precise with your words.

Also, it’s horrifying how people are just readily accepting this sexual assault narrative and not at all looking into the 343/Microsoft MCC connection.

Master Chief Collection is somehow behind this character assassination?

Genuinely no idea what you're talking about btw, is the accuser connected to 343?

Lol no I’m just shit posting ignore everything I say unless it’s about shoes (headwalk I’m watching you )

[Sapiens]

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871

WELP.

Nice - real nice.

Does Tyler have an actual skill to fall back on besides, um, forum guy?

[Widdle Puppy]

Kinda crazy how it all went down.  Goes to show how poorly moderated that place was when your userbase can use just turn on you like that.  Tyler never really fostered a healthy, collaborative culture in recent years.

Hey, he fostered that environment. Cater to ultra-Social Studies Warriors and they will turn on you the second they find out that you're not the paragon of virtue they imagined you to be.

Yeah, all he needed to do is say I was drunk, did dumb things, apologized. Let's move on.  It's funny how GAF became so puritanically unforgiving.

Oh gosh, don't say that. Next thing you know sobriety will be a requirement of the website. Let the purity tests begin!

I actually like Evilore.  He's obviously far from a perfect dude and has some issues with having an ultra thin skin.  But recent posts of his have shown that he knows where the site ended up and basically was not sure how to stop it.  But he created a Frankenstein monster that turned on him.

Also, I think Bish will be back to him salvage what's left. He was his closest bro on the site

Bish would not be the one to salvage that site. Hell, he was one of the main people that turned that place into the echo chamber it was.

I am kind of happy all this shit is going down because it may result in a better Neogaf without all the shitty narrative. EviLore just needs to provide a sincere and honest explanation. If that causes a mass exodus then that's fine, those people that leave are what made NeoGAF simply intolerable in the first place.

NeoGAF is fine for talking about videogames and off topic garbage, but it sure did make you feel like you had a huge fucking target on your back if you said something that didn't fit in (and we are not even talking about historically offensive viewpoints, you could simply go bye bye for having a contrasting opinion that most normal people wouldn't bat an eye at).

for instance?

All you had to say was that you voted for Trump and you would get banned.

good

[zomgee]

bore gold when

[EightBitNate]

Good morning fam

[TypicalVoatShitlord]

Let’s be clear about one thing and one thing only: amirox is an accused pedephile and has yet to be convicted. Please be precise with your words.

Reminder to all that plea date will be Nov 3

[Nabbis]

How the fuck do you guys that live and breath Gaf don't see the shitty bans all over the place?  Christ.

They fucking banned me twice for posting pics of women I banged. Socially inept fucks

Not what i had in mind. 

[Owl-faced Wizard]

the mods can all resign in a huff but every one of them knew the elf was a supercreepeer from way back.

btw. Did some of the mods really get doxxed or was that bullshit damage control?

why would you doubt it?

Why would you believe it? There hasn't been any evidence of that happening anywhere

oh, sorry, got the wrong end of the stick - i saw on another board that that was something malka put out there to explain away why mods were leaving. i would totally doubt that.

[brobuzz]

Good morning fam

Morning fam

[Cerveza mas fina]

Can I just say Momo has the best avy/tag aesthetic atm

no

[Opiate]

Why were you complicit in creating a echo chamber environment where the mods regularly went on power trips, banning everyone they disagreed with, or everyone who wasn't far-left?

While you can fault me for lots of things, this is a GAF tendency that I rather strenuously attempted to curb, as noted. I think many people here will have misconceptions about which mod believed what, because the public faces will not necessarily match the back room dialogues.

If your point is "you should have quit," then that is part of a larger, more complex discussion. Allowing dissent and disagreement among moderators is important, and it would be absurd to quit as soon as you disagreed with other people (even Tyler). But there has to be some breaking point where you say, "This disagreement has grown to severe, I can no longer sanction this behavior," and I personally believe most of the moderators who left yesterday picked exactly the right line in the sand.

The fact that the moderators quit yesterday does not mean that they were totally fine with everything Evilore believed until just now, it means that disagreements and discord have been building up over several years now, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. As someone who was there for much of it: trust me, there was quite a bit of disagreement with the direction of the forum. But you start first by disagreeing, then quit only once you feel the disagreements have become unsolvable.

[VomKriege]

Follow up for Opiate and last for me, reading your post mentioning the estrangement with the rest of the staff : Are you Russian ?

I am an American of primarily German descent. I grew up in Saint Louis, went to Columbia University in New York, lived there for several years afterwards, then returned to Saint Louis to be with family and friends (and because I got a better job with higher pay and lower cost of living).

Was pulling your leg chap, but you maybe missed the McCarthyist craze on GAF.

As I said, because I don't think you adressed it specifically, your interaction with Fiction wrt to the pedo discussion really did not do you any favor, especially here. I can hear all of your intellectual arguments on the matter, but you came out as cold and insensitive at best, apologetic as worst. Did you reflect on that and maybe regretted how you handled it ?

[Momo]

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871

WELP.

It being Brian Crecente is some poetry for me personally. (Got permed by EviLore for emailing him neojiff stuff) lol

[FreeNudeLyleLanley]

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871

WELP.

Nice - real nice.

Does Tyler have an actual skill to fall back on besides, um, forum guy?

He's an accomplished martial artist.

[Lothar]

I see... I'm not blind to there having been many silly bans at Neogaf. I was banned for two weeks for calling a guy a "dope" when he first called me a "dumbass." He walked out of the exchange scot-free. Old member with a cool tag and mod friends. It was silly but I didn't care and wasn't offended or sensitive about it like a lot of people are when banned from GAF. I would say most perma bans there were deserved. There were some that might not have deserved losing their account but most bans there were justifiable and you really had little to worry about there as long as you didn't call people names and showed them respect like you would someone in person. It wasn't perfect and yes it was an echo chamber but it was one of the few active places where you could go to avoid scummy GGs and similar tier posters.

Based on what would you believe most perma bans were deserved?  They were so secretive about it, didn't want anyone to know why people were banned or for how long.  Why would put trust in that?  I can give you at least one thread where everyone in it was perma banned just for saying the site slogan was lame.  That last sentence is a myth.  Typical Gaf brainwashing propaganda making you believe everyone not on Gaf was a GG and Trump lover. 

[Dennis]

Good morning fam

top of the morning, governor

[Himu]

So the gaf mods are going to try to recreate gaf but without Tyler? Now that people don't have cause for their loyalty, no one got time for that.

You can definitely 100% put your faith in all the other mods, Tyler was the only bad one there will ever be. Amir0x doesnt count because reasons, also ignore the other times they all covered for Tyler. They're good people, it's not that this time there was just too much attention, it's because they are pure souls

They defended a convicted pedophile.

[ModernBoxes]

Bish would not be the one to salvage that site. Hell, he was one of the main people that turned that place into the echo chamber it was.

I am kind of happy all this shit is going down because it may result in a better Neogaf without all the shitty narrative. EviLore just needs to provide a sincere and honest explanation. If that causes a mass exodus then that's fine, those people that leave are what made NeoGAF simply intolerable in the first place.

NeoGAF is fine for talking about videogames and off topic garbage, but it sure did make you feel like you had a huge fucking target on your back if you said something that didn't fit in (and we are not even talking about historically offensive viewpoints, you could simply go bye bye for having a contrasting opinion that most normal people wouldn't bat an eye at).

for instance?

I was banned for explaining to an OP that cuck is an insult intended to hurt feelings and he can't decide what words are used to insult him.

so you were calling him a cuck?

Not at all and would never. The guy made the post condemning the usage of the word. I was simply saying that no one gets to choose the words used against them only how they react to the insult. It wasn't the hill I thought I'd die on my point felt pretty clear but I'm guessing it was too close to the Trumpers narrative.

I see... I'm not blind to there having been many silly bans at Neogaf. I was banned for two weeks for calling a guy a "dope" when he first called me a "dumbass." He walked out of the exchange scot-free. Old member with a cool tag and mod friends. It was silly but I didn't care and wasn't offended or sensitive about it like a lot of people are when banned from GAF. I would say most perma bans there were deserved. There were some that might not have deserved losing their account but most bans there were justifiable and you really had little to worry about there as long as you didn't call people names and showed them respect like you would someone in person. It wasn't perfect and yes it was an echo chamber but it was one of the few active places where you could go to avoid scummy GGs and similar tier posters.

I don't know, I'm proof that this fairness you speak of really isn't true. They pruned the right people out and kept the right people in. No one was the wiser. Perma banned with no chance of recourse. What good is that entire fucking mod team? No. They can eat shit. Stump especially who treated bans like every day transactions.

[nudemacusers]

Let’s be clear about one thing and one thing only: amirox is an accused pedephile and has yet to be convicted. Please be precise with your words.

Reminder to all that plea date will be Nov 3

Your precision is appreciated

[Nintendosbooger]

Visited NEOGAF since 2000 and became a registered member 13 years ago with one perma-ban imposed by Dragona that was lifted just this year.

Personally don't have a problem with their policy enforcement. You'll get banned if you're a blatant troll - which I was - or for driveby posts reflecting, admittedly, insensitive conservative viewpoints. Normally when you back up any radical perspective with sound, well thought-out support the mods - or at least most of them - will give you leeway. Again, this is just based on my casual observations from watching many, many members get banned.

[radioheadrule83]

Who was the guy who did all the server stuff for them? Or the changes to the forum at least? Began with a G I think?
I'm sure he's probably got a DB backup. He could mass mail the membership and get them to move to a site of his choosing - $$$$$

[Boogie]

So the gaf mods are going to try to recreate gaf but without Tyler? Now that people don't have cause for their loyalty, no one got time for that.

You can definitely 100% put your faith in all the other mods, Tyler was the only bad one there will ever be. Amir0x doesnt count because reasons, also ignore the other times they all covered for Tyler. They're good people, it's not that this time there was just too much attention, it's because they are pure souls

They defended a convicted pedophile.

Not convicted yet.

[mxgt]

I got perma banned for questioning why we couldn't discuss Amirox being a pedophile

I wish I knew which mod did it

[Epsilon-delta]

Who was the guy who did all the server stuff for them? Or the changes to the forum at least? Began with a G I think?
I'm sure he's probably got a DB backup. He could mass mail the membership and get them to move to a site of his choosing - $$$$$

Gromph.

[blaze]

Who was the guy who did all the server stuff for them? Or the changes to the forum at least? Began with a G I think?
I'm sure he's probably got a DB backup. He could mass mail the membership and get them to move to a site of his choosing - $$$$$

Gromph

[ModernBoxes]

Visited NEOGAF since 2000 and became a registered member 13 years ago with one perma-ban imposed by Dragona that was lifted just this year.

Personally don't have a problem with their policy enforcement. You'll get banned if you're a blatant troll - which I was - or for driveby posts reflecting, admittedly, insensitive conservative viewpoints. Normally when you back up any radical perspective with sound, well thought-out support the mods - or at least most of them - will give you leeway. Again, this is just based on my casual observations from watching many, many members get banned.

Your all seeing eye is broken I hope you still have the receipt.

[Luxray]

Normally when you back up any radical perspective with sound, well thought-out support the mods - or at least most of them - will give you leeway.

Except when this perspective is about women, feminism, LBGT, Trump or moderators.