Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[demi]

I actually came across this guy (gamertag) playing Destiny 2 in a Public Event

Did he know how to trigger heroic?

Lol, yes he did. There were other randos there too so they did all the work for me while I just danced.

[Opiate]

I always thought Fiction was a great person. No arguments from me there.

I've also thought/think opiate is a good person that was mostly guilty of being a sympathetic devil's advocate on issues where there is little to no gray area.  Even if his arguments were sound, sometimes they were arguments not worth making.  At least, they were the kinds of arguments that were they to be made, they should be made outside a place like Neogaf.

I spent a silly amount of time playing D3 back in the day with Opiate.  He seemed a bit more human there and never have off any weird vibes.  He talked about his girlfriend a bit back then and even made a few jokes about the moderation policy of GAF circa 2012-2013.

I guess I'm just not convinced of the pedo accusations made against him and I don't know how one could reasonably prove that they're not.  Maybe he can clarify the Flickr thing but what can be done to prove a person with the same username is someone else? 

What does working at Toys R Us have to do with being a pedophile?

Some of the reaching to lunch the guy is absurd.

But if I end up being wrong about the guy well fuck I'm a fucking idiot.

I don't really have much to say about Flickr, other than that it's not me, and it's amazing how convinced (some) people are that it is me. Once again, I've never been to Flickr, and if I had put child pornography on Flickr I'm reasonably confident the police would have found me already, because they can find child porn distributors and purveyors who are using much more covert means.  If a couple of internet "sleuths" think they can catch me so easily, then surely people with much more sophisticated IP tracing tools (i.e. Police, FBI) could do much better. Perhaps I'm just so good that I'm able to hide like this in the open and not get caught: these conspiracies are getting awfully convoluted, if so.

I will reiterate that one of my points from the beginning of the conversation, now years old, was that people are so emotionally driven by this topic that any hint of sympathy is viewed with deep suspicion and contempt -- which is why there are literally no outlets of any kind for pedophiles to be treated in America, including the fact that a pedophile cannot even confess his urges to a therapist (http://www.vocativ.com/315929/pedophiles-seeking-help-put-therapists-in-ethical-catch-22/index.html), usually a position bound by very strict confidentiality. Many of the comments in this thread only reinforce that initial point.

My goal, as always, is to have sympathy for everyone, or at least almost so. Even pedophiles, who as far as we can tell did not "choose" their predilections. Even sociopaths, who never made a choice to ignore other people's feelings because they were intellectually incapable of appreciating other people's feelings from birth. And again, it's possible to have sympathy for someone without necessarily saying you condone their behavior, just as I have sympathy for a homeless person who steals food but who may nevertheless need to go to prison.

Lastly, I absolutely agree that Fiction is a wonderful, intelligent person.

[exGAF]

Anyone got any good ideas how to reach former/present NeoGAF members to give exGAF.com a try? The discord thing is just turning into the same shit that NeoGAF is (people moderating other people's opinions), and a forum run by former mods would obviously become a holier-than-thou hivemind, as well. After all, they are (at least partly) responsible for what happened at NeoGAF. Please help me brainstorm.

[Rahxephon91]

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/922092593592373248

It's pretty funny watching all of neogaf's former targets reveling in its demise

I have to admit, I never liked PDP but I subscribed after watching a few of his new vids about the constant witchhunting against him by these fucking loons. The guy is very different than he used to be a decade ago, I kind of like him now.

Oh no! He blurted out a bad word in a moment of frustration! HANG. HIM.

What? No hanging?

No because I'm not a fucktard who says the n-word when I get mad at a video game. Amazingly, I also have control not to say the N-word when I get mad at work because I guess I'm a decent human being and has I don't know.....self control?

But not everyone can be you, oh virtuous one. Some people in fact are not perfect and not as composed and in complete control of themselves as you.

This is the problem with overly Conservative, alt-right, centrists, ect whatever "I"M NOT LIBERAL I"M SMARTER BOTH SIDES try hards". They look for whatever little holes in arguments they can take to extremes ironically missing the supposed middle ground their supposed intellectual brain was actually aiming for.

Even the dumbest teenager knows that saying the n-word out loud in public no matter how angry or not angry they are is a bad idea. Why say it? To get a reaction most of the time. To show how angry or ticked off they are?


And guess what, no school would buy that excuse. A quick kick to the nuts you'd basically receive.


Why do they yell the word on XBL? Because they know it's bad and will probably get some attention.

No boss at work is going to say "Oh well you see John was angry would he called the black lady trying to return an open dvd with no receipt the n-word. You know people just get mad". And thats fucking retail, filled with unprofessional SOBs. You're average cart pusher isn't going to be an idiot and say that word.

Because it's not cool and people know it's not something they should say. Because it's been made a bad word.

I don't care what happens to Pewdepie. You're mistake is thinking that anyone who appears left is an extreme Social Studies Warrior or some other nonsense. I don't care about the guy, I don't even think he should lose his job or well being. But if the market dictated he did then I would understand, because every person knows you just don't have flippant use of that word. Especially, when you're job is streaming to millions who are going to be on your ass for any and everything they hear.

Virtuous one? GTFO off this forum if you think not using that word is some idea of righteousness. Maybe because I don't live in an isolated place where there are actually plenty of POC, but I've never meant anyone at school or work who would just throw the n word out because they were angry and were later like "opps I let it slip". No if they used it when they were angry, they knew damn well what they were saying. When you're angry, you don't lose all your marbles and say and do stuff that reveals other aspects of your personality. You just don't become a radically different person who all of a sudden just pushes out racial slurs and is in no way representative of the "nice" you. That's bullshit.

And the hilarious part of this defense is pewdiepie didn't even look like he was distressed. He wasn't throwing a controller around angry at all.

I guess where some get hung up is when others claim to know who a person is based on what cuss words they use, and what value their lives have.  Sure, voice your displeasure at the use of the word, but going beyond that idk.  It isn't that far removed from those countries where you can still be executed for blaspheming.

I don't know if and I'm not saying PewDiePie is a racist. People are far more complex then that and nothing is black and white. I agree the call for his head was a bit extreme though some consequences were probably needed. But using that word or similar behavior does make me far more judgmental on him then before.

GAF was full of left try hards who seemed to ignore that people operate on many levels, yes. But it was full of people willing to stretch excuses just to seem over those types as well.

I don't think saying "oh he was angry and in no way does that reveal a certain aspect of their personality". Now does it make up their complete self? No and no one here could ever know the complete person anyway. But as an outsider those actions do a paint a negative picture that can't be wiped away with an excuse that basically takes away any responsibility.

[Great Rumbler]

Is PewDiePie racist? I dunno, man. Did PewDiePie do something very wrong? Yes.

There, now stop talking about him.

And, for the love of God, stop nesting so many quotes in your posts.

[agrajag]

Let’s pretend that he actually is a pedophile: do you think justice can be brought down upon him via arguing with him on the internet? He’s not gonna come out and say “lol shit guys you caught me! i like to diddle kids!” It just makes more sense to ignore him.

I don't want justice or any of that shit. I just don't want to see any of his posts, ever. If he's here, I'm out. He's only going to invite more of his type and that's not a forum I want to be associated with.

The intensity of your post is straight up shades of Amirox.
 

Fiction is good people and I just find Opiate insufferable in general aside from all this.

(Image removed from quote.)

I always thought Fiction was a great person. No arguments from me there.

I've also thought/think opiate is a good person that was mostly guilty of being a sympathetic devil's advocate on issues where there is little to no gray area.  Even if his arguments were sound, sometimes they were arguments not worth making.  At least, they were the kinds of arguments that were they to be made, they should be made outside a place like Neogaf.

I spent a silly amount of time playing D3 back in the day with Opiate.  He seemed a bit more human there and never have off any weird vibes.  He talked about his girlfriend a bit back then and even made a few jokes about the moderation policy of GAF circa 2012-2013.

I guess I'm just not convinced of the pedo accusations made against him and I don't know how one could reasonably prove that they're not.  Maybe he can clarify the Flickr thing but what can be done to prove a person with the same username is someone else? 

What does working at Toys R Us have to do with being a pedophile?

Some of the reaching to lunch the guy is absurd.

But if I end up being wrong about the guy well fuck I'm a fucking idiot.

I don't really have much to say about Flickr, other than that it's not me, and it's amazing how convinced people are that it is me. Once again, I've never been to Flickr, and if I had put Child Pornography on Flickr I'm reasonably confident the police would have found me already, because they can find child porn distributors and purveyors who are using much more covert means.  If a couple of internet "sleuths" think they can catch me so easily, then surely people with much more sophisticated IP tracing tools could do much better.

I will reiterate that one of my points from the beginning of the conversation, now years old, was that people are so emotionally driven by this topic that any hint of sympathy is viewed with deep suspicion and contempt -- which is why there are literally no outlets of any kind for pedophiles to be treated in America, including the fact that a pedophile cannot even confess his urges to a therapist (http://www.vocativ.com/315929/pedophiles-seeking-help-put-therapists-in-ethical-catch-22/index.html), usually a position bound by very strict confidentiality. Many of the comments in this thread only reinforce that initial point.

My goal, as always, is to have sympathy for everyone, or at least almost so. Even pedophiles, who as far as we can tell did not "choose" their predilections. Even sociopaths, who did never made a choice to ignore other people's feelings because they were intellectually incapable of appreciating other people's feelings from both. And again, it's possible to have sympathy for someone without necessarily saying you condone their behavior, just as I have sympathy for a homeless person who steals food but who may nevertheless need to go to prison.

But in the eyes of many, you have failed to display sympathy and respect to a former victim. At best, the way you handled the Fiction situation showed a severe lack of tact on your part.

[joe_zazen]

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[helios]

Lightning Returns > FFXII > FFVII > FFXIII

[Jenkem]

I guess we'll never see the final picks for the top RPGs of 2017 now

why? RPGCODEX still exists...

you want a GAF top rpg list? fallout 4 is number 1, enjoy your hell

[Rahxephon91]

Man I missed my chance to make my Final Fantasy XIII is great and/or Metal Gear Solid 4 is trash thread on GAF unopposed.

[Kurt Russell]

Hello, fellow GAF Refugees. Would you all please consider joining my new discussion forum FoeNag? I feel it could really capture the spirit and essence of GAF in its heyday, circa 2012-present.

No, please join my new forum - MeoFaf.com - it has the same GAF circa 2016 tolerant community and even-handed moderation that you woke progressives can't get enough of!

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

building your GAF spinoff site off a shitty GoDaddy shared hosting plan like a fucking dingus 

[injusticeforall]

I always thought Fiction was a great person. No arguments from me there.

I've also thought/think opiate is a good person that was mostly guilty of being a sympathetic devil's advocate on issues where there is little to no gray area.  Even if his arguments were sound, sometimes they were arguments not worth making.  At least, they were the kinds of arguments that were they to be made, they should be made outside a place like Neogaf.

I spent a silly amount of time playing D3 back in the day with Opiate.  He seemed a bit more human there and never have off any weird vibes.  He talked about his girlfriend a bit back then and even made a few jokes about the moderation policy of GAF circa 2012-2013.

I guess I'm just not convinced of the pedo accusations made against him and I don't know how one could reasonably prove that they're not.  Maybe he can clarify the Flickr thing but what can be done to prove a person with the same username is someone else? 

What does working at Toys R Us have to do with being a pedophile?

Some of the reaching to lunch the guy is absurd.

But if I end up being wrong about the guy well fuck I'm a fucking idiot.

I don't really have much to say about Flickr, other than that it's not me, and it's amazing how convinced (some) people are that it is me. Once again, I've never been to Flickr, and if I had put child pornography on Flickr I'm reasonably confident the police would have found me already, because they can find child porn distributors and purveyors who are using much more covert means.  If a couple of internet "sleuths" think they can catch me so easily, then surely people with much more sophisticated IP tracing tools (i.e. Police, FBI) could do much better. Perhaps I'm just so good that I'm able to hide like this in the open and not get caught: these conspiracies are getting awfully convoluted, if so.

I will reiterate that one of my points from the beginning of the conversation, now years old, was that people are so emotionally driven by this topic that any hint of sympathy is viewed with deep suspicion and contempt -- which is why there are literally no outlets of any kind for pedophiles to be treated in America, including the fact that a pedophile cannot even confess his urges to a therapist (http://www.vocativ.com/315929/pedophiles-seeking-help-put-therapists-in-ethical-catch-22/index.html), usually a position bound by very strict confidentiality. Many of the comments in this thread only reinforce that initial point.

My goal, as always, is to have sympathy for everyone, or at least almost so. Even pedophiles, who as far as we can tell did not "choose" their predilections. Even sociopaths, who did never made a choice to ignore other people's feelings because they were intellectually incapable of appreciating other people's feelings from both. And again, it's possible to have sympathy for someone without necessarily saying you condone their behavior, just as I have sympathy for a homeless person who steals food but who may nevertheless need to go to prison.

Lastly, I absolutely agree that Fiction is a wonderful, intelligent person.

You posted a link referring to pedophiles who view child pornography, which is illegal, and causes more harm to some boy or girl each time it's viewed. I have no problem with a therapist reporting that.

Again, its unfortunate that people have these urges but they can choose to act on them, or choose not to. I saw nothing in that column about admitting urges, but them admitting to a therapist they did something illegal.

I have no sympathy for that, I'm sorry. Chemical castration is an option to treat it, which is a lot more than a lot of people born with illnesses have. People are born into Down syndrome, HIV, autism, blindness, and a ton of other chronic illnesses that a pill can't make go away.

I'm not sure exactly why you're dying on the hill of sympathizing with someone who has a choice to not hurt another person by choosing not to get his dick off to it and go see a doctor.

[Trurl]

It crossed my mind today that this will be the last GAF thread.   

[TakingBackSunday]

It crossed my mind today that this will be the last GAF thread.   

Fucking good

[KarpalaJoe]

I always thought Fiction was a great person. No arguments from me there.

I've also thought/think opiate is a good person that was mostly guilty of being a sympathetic devil's advocate on issues where there is little to no gray area.  Even if his arguments were sound, sometimes they were arguments not worth making.  At least, they were the kinds of arguments that were they to be made, they should be made outside a place like Neogaf.

I spent a silly amount of time playing D3 back in the day with Opiate.  He seemed a bit more human there and never have off any weird vibes.  He talked about his girlfriend a bit back then and even made a few jokes about the moderation policy of GAF circa 2012-2013.

I guess I'm just not convinced of the pedo accusations made against him and I don't know how one could reasonably prove that they're not.  Maybe he can clarify the Flickr thing but what can be done to prove a person with the same username is someone else? 

What does working at Toys R Us have to do with being a pedophile?

Some of the reaching to lunch the guy is absurd.

But if I end up being wrong about the guy well fuck I'm a fucking idiot.

I don't really have much to say about Flickr, other than that it's not me, and it's amazing how convinced (some) people are that it is me. Once again, I've never been to Flickr, and if I had put child pornography on Flickr I'm reasonably confident the police would have found me already, because they can find child porn distributors and purveyors who are using much more covert means.  If a couple of internet "sleuths" think they can catch me so easily, then surely people with much more sophisticated IP tracing tools (i.e. Police, FBI) could do much better. Perhaps I'm just so good that I'm able to hide like this in the open and not get caught: these conspiracies are getting awfully convoluted, if so.

I will reiterate that one of my points from the beginning of the conversation, now years old, was that people are so emotionally driven by this topic that any hint of sympathy is viewed with deep suspicion and contempt -- which is why there are literally no outlets of any kind for pedophiles to be treated in America, including the fact that a pedophile cannot even confess his urges to a therapist (http://www.vocativ.com/315929/pedophiles-seeking-help-put-therapists-in-ethical-catch-22/index.html), usually a position bound by very strict confidentiality. Many of the comments in this thread only reinforce that initial point.

My goal, as always, is to have sympathy for everyone, or at least almost so. Even pedophiles, who as far as we can tell did not "choose" their predilections. Even sociopaths, who did never made a choice to ignore other people's feelings because they were intellectually incapable of appreciating other people's feelings from both. And again, it's possible to have sympathy for someone without necessarily saying you condone their behavior, just as I have sympathy for a homeless person who steals food but who may nevertheless need to go to prison.

Lastly, I absolutely agree that Fiction is a wonderful, intelligent person.

Man if you don't know how to defend yourself properly.

Is there any hints, any subtile proof that it's actually possible to treat someone from their attraction toward children ? I'm not a Psy, but as far as I know there isn't.

But I agree you shouldn't be in the wild, you should be put somewhere outstide of society with people like you, not because you disgust me but because the day your balls go out of a control, you might fuck someone life for good (a child). While a "normal" man will just try to seduce a woman at a bar.

[bork]

Gaming-Age.com removed the NeoGAF link.  Truly the end of an era. 

[sphagnum]

I never once yelled out a racial slur out of frustration even when I was a conservative Republican

 stop giving people slack for treating racism like it's no big deal

That tells me almost nothing about who you are as an individual and what value your life has, same goes for pdp.  I mean the guy made a career valued in the tens of millions based on rape jokes and gay slurs.  He has a filthy mouth.  Do I enjoy that? no.  Do I think he should be vilified? no.  I mean unless you know of him actually doing some bad stuff to people.

on the other side, I don't know everything.  Maybe pdp using the n-word means he is a bad person and he makes the world a bad place and he should be tarred and feathered.  as such, I'm not about to stop anyone from doing that.  I'm just explaining why I don't care.

This sort of thinking is just weird to me. "Here's a guy who built a career on rape jokes and gay slurs and drops the n word like it's nothing and he has a massive viewership with kids but he didn't literally kill someone so should he be vilified? Eh."

Yeah, he's a piece of shit who ahould be treated like one.

[Opiate]

But in the eyes of many, you have failed to display sympathy and respect to a former victim. At best, the way you handled the Fiction situation showed a severe lack of tact on your part.

I can understand that, and I definitely have some sympathy for this position -- and it's probably why I was so quick to send Fiction a private message after that discussion (and well before anyone began to curse or shout at me). Again, this can be a hard line to identify. I used this example before, but I will reiterate it with a spin: imagine a man who sexually harassed as an adult. Should that person be allowed to speak out about sexual harassment against men, and how it's more common than many of us may think? I think it's important to hear their voice, absolutely. But now imagine that this person engages the conversation by telling everyone who disagrees with him to fuck off, and when those who do not agree present, let's say, statistical data which does not conform to some of his views about sexual harassment against men, he openly refuses to listen to any such evidence. At what point does that sort of behavior become unacceptable? And how do you handle it, when it gets out of hand?

I'm not saying that Fiction's situation was identical to that, but I must stress that several of her deleted posts were very mean spirited. You may think that's okay, and you may legitimately feel that someone in her position can literally say anything and be as mean or crude as she wants because of her life experience. I don't agree with that, and do think this is a complicated sort of line to draw, but it isn't because I don't care or haven't thought about it, it's because, like everyone else, I'm an imperfect human being -- a truth I readily admit to.

[joe_zazen]

Is there any hints, any subtile proof that it's actually possible to treat someone from their attraction toward children ?

https://www.economist.com/news/international/21704795-understanding-sexual-attraction-children-essential-if-they-are-be-kept

http://www.radiolab.org/story/revising-fault-line/

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[VomKriege]

those logos suck

Would it kill them to hire a real designer and pay them a few hundred to make a real logo? GAF had the same problem with the various iterations of that shit ball logo.

Those are clown operations barely thought out at best and opportunistic at worst.

[exGAF]

Anyone got any good ideas how to reach former/present NeoGAF members to give exGAF.com a try? The discord thing is just turning into the same shit that NeoGAF is (people moderating other people's opinions), and a forum run by former mods would obviously become a holier-than-thou hivemind, as well. After all, they are (at least partly) responsible for what happened at NeoGAF. Please help me brainstorm.

I already tried to start a neogaf spin off forum that wasn't hosted on fucking proboards and nobody bit. They want the stupid ex-mod hugbox back.

RIP neoneogaf.com
Died too soon.

I used to run a phpBB based forum in the past, and while I got the exGAF.com domain several years ago to use when NeoGAF would fall, I hadn't actually set up webspace and forum software yet. I didn't expect NeoGAF to crash and burn that suddenly. So I needed something quickly and went with proboards as a placeholder last night. If like-minded people would be willing to cooperate, I'd quickly move it to dedicated webspace. I'm surprised there seems to be zero interest.
I should have prepared a way to broadcast the idea beforehand.

[Widdle Puppy]

Cerium spinoff update

There's over 1000 displaced gaffers huddling in the cold of the discord server. The random people acting as mods don't have the energy to ban everyone on their own so they're spinning up modbot.

@everyone

Howdy folks!

I'm currently working on a bot for this Discord server. Its purpose is to make our Moderators' lives a bit easier.

It will have two features:

1- !flush is a command that may be called by Mods to clean the #read channel up. It will delete messages made by users who have already been approved.

2- A forbidden words filter. We want this place to be friendly, so the bot will warn users whenever they use a forbidden word. Don't worry: as long as you don't start calling people ugly names, you should be okay!

The bot's code will be open for all to see. The only thing that will not be visible in the bot's source code is the bot's token, for obvious reasons.

We're also open for suggestions regarding the bot! I'm currently the main coder and my code might not be all that bright (in fact, the first version of the bot most likely has some pretty ugly-looking code) but bear with me: we'll improve it as we go.

what is the discord server?

[MIMIC]

Hmmmm...so "Discord" is something like a chatroom? I had never heard of it before.

Having everyone migrate from a forum to a chatroom sounds like a complete clusterfuck.

[Kurt Russell]

I used to run a phpBB based forum in the past, and while I got the exGAF.com domain several years ago to use when NeoGAF would fall, I hadn't actually set up webspace and forum software yet. I didn't expect NeoGAF to crash and burn that suddenly. So I needed something quickly and went with proboards as a placeholder last night. If like-minded people would be willing to cooperate, I'd quickly move it to dedicated webspace. I'm surprised there seems to be zero interest.

I'm surprised you're surprised. There are literally about five to ten other forums aiming to clone GAF and grab Evilore's sloppy seconds. Unfortunately for you, they all beat you to the punch by approximately 12 hours. Why is there any surprise that people don't want to sign up to near double digits of forums just because they have a URL that's a bit similar to neogaf.com?

[Cascade]

Paedo= shot on sight, no exceptions.

What's so hard about that?

[agrajag]

Anyone got any good ideas how to reach former/present NeoGAF members to give exGAF.com a try? The discord thing is just turning into the same shit that NeoGAF is (people moderating other people's opinions), and a forum run by former mods would obviously become a holier-than-thou hivemind, as well. After all, they are (at least partly) responsible for what happened at NeoGAF. Please help me brainstorm.

I already tried to start a neogaf spin off forum that wasn't hosted on fucking proboards and nobody bit. They want the stupid ex-mod hugbox back.

RIP neoneogaf.com
Died too soon.

I used to run a phpBB based forum in the past, and while I got the exGAF.com domain several years ago to use when NeoGAF would fall, I hadn't actually set up webspace and forum software yet. I didn't expect NeoGAF to crash and burn that suddenly. So I needed something quickly and went with proboards as a placeholder last night. If like-minded people would be willing to cooperate, I'd quickly move it to dedicated webspace. I'm surprised there seems to be zero interest.

Good. Hope you take Widdle Puppy and whoever else is waxing nostalgic over the nexus of authoritarian safe spaces with you.

[Scrooged]

Lightning Returns > FFXII > FFVII > FFXIII

Eww.

[Momo]

To anyone starting up websites, I was a sysadmin for a cluster of 24 web servers for about 10 years, this included setup, architecture, DR etc. I will do a one time setup for $1000 and do support at $100 per call for the first 5 hours or duration of fix.       

[Mortimer Brewster]

Is Slayven on Twitter? Would love to see how he’s holding up.

Slayven, Angelus, Massive Duck, Lime, RPGCrazied, Rinsfury etc of the crazies are all going to have a hard time without Gaf. Wherever they end up they are going to have to come to terms with accepting that people can have dissenting views.

[thehunter116]

I actually came across this guy (gamertag) playing Destiny 2 in a Public Event

Did he know how to trigger heroic?

Lol, yes he did. There were other randos there too so they did all the work for me while I just danced.

Oh you lazy fuck.

I bet you got the exotic too.

[Rahxephon91]

I wonder if GAF will really die.

And I wonder if their will be a replacement?

I don't think GAF will die if it does come back. Maybe not as big as before, but their will be posters who either don't care, will simply look past what happen, or rationalize that it's the community that "owns" GAF and not Tyler.

Too many small forums will appear, but won't grab all the mindhsare, meaning they won't have the legacy or communities that people came to GAF for in the first place. So they will probably stay rather small. Plus in the end without the built in Legacy, do you really want a forum? I feel like forums are old news for most. Even I have gotten use to simply going to Reddit for the quick info I would go to GAF for. Yes, discusion is cool, but honestly as I've gotten older I care so much less for talking about games.

[Rich!]

In a way it's kinda sad knowing that I won't get to enjoy seeing the 30+ pages of sheer hysteria over the next few months when the switch carries on selling as it is and at the top of the npd charts as it was the past two months.

It was like the Wii era again, only now with a genuinely decent console and ten times the amount of mental gymnastics on gaf

[bork]

Cerium spinoff update

There's over 1000 displaced gaffers huddling in the cold of the discord server. The random people acting as mods don't have the energy to ban everyone on their own so they're spinning up modbot.

@everyone

Howdy folks!

I'm currently working on a bot for this Discord server. Its purpose is to make our Moderators' lives a bit easier.

It will have two features:

1- !flush is a command that may be called by Mods to clean the #read channel up. It will delete messages made by users who have already been approved.

2- A forbidden words filter. We want this place to be friendly, so the bot will warn users whenever they use a forbidden word. Don't worry: as long as you don't start calling people ugly names, you should be okay!

The bot's code will be open for all to see. The only thing that will not be visible in the bot's source code is the bot's token, for obvious reasons.

We're also open for suggestions regarding the bot! I'm currently the main coder and my code might not be all that bright (in fact, the first version of the bot most likely has some pretty ugly-looking code) but bear with me: we'll improve it as we go.

So whats up with geonaf? Is that a real site or what?

It was looking like it could be the first "big" GAF replacement forum and quickly shot up to 900+ registered users in a very short time, but was invaded by 4chan and was not a secure forum, so apparently someone found a backdoor in and just deleted everything.

[Kurt Russell]

To anyone starting up websites, I was a sysadmin for a cluster of 24 web servers for about 10 years, this included setup, architecture, DR etc. I will do a one time setup for $1000 and do support at $100 per call for the first 5 hours or duration of fix.     

Do me one and moderate for free and I'll give you E3 access, 1% of ad revenue and a shower cubicle with your desk.

[thehunter116]

Is Slayven on Twitter? Would love to see how he’s holding up.

Slayven, Angelus, Massive Duck, Lime, RPGCrazied, Rinsfury etc of the crazies are all going to have a hard time without Gaf. Wherever they end up they are going to have to come to terms with accepting that people can have dissenting views.

To be fair, some of the views I've seen were really just, you know racists suck why do you defend nazism?

I feel where some of you come from, where everything is an agression but well, Nazi's,alt-right can eat shit.

[omensetter]

i'll be honest I'm shocked that gaming-age is still around and updated regularly

[Widdle Puppy]

Anyone got any good ideas how to reach former/present NeoGAF members to give exGAF.com a try? The discord thing is just turning into the same shit that NeoGAF is (people moderating other people's opinions), and a forum run by former mods would obviously become a holier-than-thou hivemind, as well. After all, they are (at least partly) responsible for what happened at NeoGAF. Please help me brainstorm.

I already tried to start a neogaf spin off forum that wasn't hosted on fucking proboards and nobody bit. They want the stupid ex-mod hugbox back.

RIP neoneogaf.com
Died too soon.

I used to run a phpBB based forum in the past, and while I got the exGAF.com domain several years ago to use when NeoGAF would fall, I hadn't actually set up webspace and forum software yet. I didn't expect NeoGAF to crash and burn that suddenly. So I needed something quickly and went with proboards as a placeholder last night. If like-minded people would be willing to cooperate, I'd quickly move it to dedicated webspace. I'm surprised there seems to be zero interest.

Good. Hope you take Widdle Puppy and whoever else is waxing nostalgic over the nexus of authoritarian safe spaces with you.

find us the discord link or w/e so we can leave this message board which is for disgruntled banned gaffers apparently

[thehunter116]

Paedo= shot on sight, no exceptions.

What's so hard about that?

Yeah, wasn't a fan of the pedophile apologist either.

I don't see anyone stanning for Pyromaniacs or serial killers. If you have a problem go seek help.

Feel free to heed this advice Dubya and etitiowhatever.

[agrajag]

Anyone got any good ideas how to reach former/present NeoGAF members to give exGAF.com a try? The discord thing is just turning into the same shit that NeoGAF is (people moderating other people's opinions), and a forum run by former mods would obviously become a holier-than-thou hivemind, as well. After all, they are (at least partly) responsible for what happened at NeoGAF. Please help me brainstorm.

I already tried to start a neogaf spin off forum that wasn't hosted on fucking proboards and nobody bit. They want the stupid ex-mod hugbox back.

RIP neoneogaf.com
Died too soon.

I used to run a phpBB based forum in the past, and while I got the exGAF.com domain several years ago to use when NeoGAF would fall, I hadn't actually set up webspace and forum software yet. I didn't expect NeoGAF to crash and burn that suddenly. So I needed something quickly and went with proboards as a placeholder last night. If like-minded people would be willing to cooperate, I'd quickly move it to dedicated webspace. I'm surprised there seems to be zero interest.

Good. Hope you take Widdle Puppy and whoever else is waxing nostalgic over the nexus of authoritarian safe spaces with you.

find us the discord link or w/e so we can leave this message board which is for disgruntled banned gaffers apparently

So you're pathetic AND lazy

[bork]

Anyone got any good ideas how to reach former/present NeoGAF members to give exGAF.com a try? The discord thing is just turning into the same shit that NeoGAF is (people moderating other people's opinions), and a forum run by former mods would obviously become a holier-than-thou hivemind, as well. After all, they are (at least partly) responsible for what happened at NeoGAF. Please help me brainstorm.

I already tried to start a neogaf spin off forum that wasn't hosted on fucking proboards and nobody bit. They want the stupid ex-mod hugbox back.

RIP neoneogaf.com
Died too soon.

I used to run a phpBB based forum in the past, and while I got the exGAF.com domain several years ago to use when NeoGAF would fall, I hadn't actually set up webspace and forum software yet. I didn't expect NeoGAF to crash and burn that suddenly. So I needed something quickly and went with proboards as a placeholder last night. If like-minded people would be willing to cooperate, I'd quickly move it to dedicated webspace. I'm surprised there seems to be zero interest.

Good. Hope you take Widdle Puppy and whoever else is waxing nostalgic over the nexus of authoritarian safe spaces with you.

find us the discord link or w/e so we can leave this message board which is for disgruntled banned gaffers apparently

Or you could look outside this thread and start posting about other things. 

[blaze]

I wonder if GAF will really die.

And I wonder if their will be a replacement?

I don't think GAF will die if it does come back. Maybe not as big as before, but their will be posters who either don't care, will simply look past what happen, or rationalize that it's the community that "owns" GAF and not Tyler.

Too many small forums will appear, but won't grab all the mindhsare, meaning they won't have the legacy or communities that people came to GAF for in the first place. So they will probably stay rather small. Plus in the end without the built in Legacy, do you really want a forum? I feel like forums are old news for most. Even I have gotten use to simply going to Reddit for the quick info I would go to GAF for. Yes, discusion is cool, but honestly as I've gotten older I care so much less for talking about games.

Would say for now the name is too toxic, I'd say the only chance it has to get close to the level it was is to change ownership. But with him in charge that ain't happening any time soon.

It's a shame about the forum format going away, I like it and still struggle to come around to Reddit style sites.

[Kurt Russell]

I feel where some of you come from, where everything is an agression but well, Nazi's,alt-right can eat shit.

Which is all super fine and dandy, until you start defining "alt-right Nazi" as "anyone who doesn't agree with me". This is the problem with Millennials in general - everything has to be either black or white. That, and also the fact that they have apparently never read Animal Farm.

[Dennis]

I wonder if GAF will really die.

And I wonder if their will be a replacement?

I don't think GAF will die if it does come back. Maybe not as big as before, but their will be posters who either don't care, will simply look past what happen, or rationalize that it's the community that "owns" GAF and not Tyler.

Too many small forums will appear, but won't grab all the mindhsare, meaning they won't have the legacy or communities that people came to GAF for in the first place. So they will probably stay rather small. Plus in the end without the built in Legacy, do you really want a forum? I feel like forums are old news for most. Even I have gotten use to simply going to Reddit for the quick info I would go to GAF for. Yes, discusion is cool, but honestly as I've gotten older I care so much less for talking about games.

I hope a replacement for, or indeed GAF itself, comes back. Changes has to made of course but I posted there for years because it used to be a very good forum.

Yes, it had problems that caught up with it in the end. But it was a popular game site once upon a time for a reason.

[agrajag]

Look, there's only one "I wish I was still on GAF" position available here, and it's already taken by Dennis.

[VomKriege]

Is Slayven on Twitter? Would love to see how he’s holding up.

Slayven, Angelus, Massive Duck, Lime, RPGCrazied, Rinsfury etc of the crazies are all going to have a hard time without Gaf. Wherever they end up they are going to have to come to terms with accepting that people can have dissenting views.

Not if they're all mods on their now doubt soon to be successful forum or Discord.

[omensetter]

Paedo= shot on sight, no exceptions.

What's so hard about that?

Yeah, wasn't a fan of the pedophile apologist either.

I don't see anyone stanning for Pyromaniacs or serial killers. If you have a problem go seek help.

Feel free to heed this advice Dubya and etitiowhatever.

etoilet is the proper nomenclature

[Crocks]

Christ, some of you guys who seem to harp on constantly about how the GAF mods couldn't stand dissenting opinion sure as shit don't like the idea that Opiate wasn't whiter-than-white to a victim of child abuse. He didn't ban her, didn't delete her posts, didn't stifle her voice in any way (when, let's be fucking honest, she was behaving like shit, even if it's behaviour we can understand and empathise with) yet you're all on his back for very politely telling her to pipe down. Some of you are stark-raving hypocrites.

[injusticeforall]

Christ, some of you guys who seem to harp on constantly about how the GAF mods couldn't stand dissenting opinion sure as shit don't like the idea that Opiate wasn't whiter-than-white to a victim of child abuse. He didn't ban her, didn't delete her posts, didn't stifle her voice in any way (when, let's be fucking honest, she was behaving like shit, even if it's behaviour we can understand and empathise with) yet you're all on his back for very politely telling her to pipe down. Some of you are stark-raving hypocrites.

Or you could just not have ridiculous meaningless arguments like that on what is supposed to be a videogame forum. You don't need to express an opinion on every subject matter.

[VomKriege]

find us the discord link

Entitlement culture. Sad.

[SantaC]

Whats thebore irc again. Had a good time yesterday

[thehunter116]

I feel where some of you come from, where everything is an agression but well, Nazi's,alt-right can eat shit.

Which is all super fine and dandy, until you start defining "alt-right Nazi" as "anyone who doesn't agree with me". This is the problem with Millennials in general - everything has to be either black or white. That, and also the fact that they have apparently never read Animal Farm.

To be fair as well, if it quacks like a Hitler, looks like a Hitler and spews N words and anti-semetic speech everywhere it's probably a Nazi.

Too many people were timid to call out friends and personalities because that would mean they would have to admit their friends/celebrity is a piece of shit. Kinda like with sexual harassment lately.

[Cascade]

Does anyone think Evilore might commit that? His whole existence revolves around his ownership of gaf. He has literally no skills or personality outside of that.  Once the money dries up, he'll have nothing else to fall back on. I could easily see something that life destroying pushing him over the brink.

[demi]

Whats thebore irc again. Had a good time yesterday

This was the link used last time. It was pretty dead when I checked earlier today.

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net?channel=#thebore

[BlueTsunami]

👀

[Crocks]

Christ, some of you guys who seem to harp on constantly about how the GAF mods couldn't stand dissenting opinion sure as shit don't like the idea that Opiate wasn't whiter-than-white to a victim of child abuse. He didn't ban her, didn't delete her posts, didn't stifle her voice in any way (when, let's be fucking honest, she was behaving like shit, even if it's behaviour we can understand and empathise with) yet you're all on his back for very politely telling her to pipe down. Some of you are stark-raving hypocrites.

Or you could just not have ridiculous meaningless arguments like that on what is supposed to be a videogame forum. You don't need to express an opinion on every subject matter.

Alrighty cool, you want a place for silo'd, exclusively video game discussion. That's what you want. You can want whatever you like. But that's not what GAF was, and your dislike of that topic hasn't got anything to do with the rights and wrongs of what Opiate did - which happens to be what we're talking about here. Besides, it's the internet - if you don't like the topic, don't go in. It's not rocket surgery.

[nappy]

God I'd rather talk about Amirox and Bobby Roberts than people acting like its normal and appropriate behavior for a grown white man to yell out the n-bomb while playing video games. Can all you new nerds find a discord and leave us to talk about tacos, dicks, and Disney-Lucasfilm? How did we get people cuntier than Etoilet in the first fucking day?

Don't say things you can't take back.

[thehunter116]

I wonder if GAF will really die.

And I wonder if their will be a replacement?

I don't think GAF will die if it does come back. Maybe not as big as before, but their will be posters who either don't care, will simply look past what happen, or rationalize that it's the community that "owns" GAF and not Tyler.

Too many small forums will appear, but won't grab all the mindhsare, meaning they won't have the legacy or communities that people came to GAF for in the first place. So they will probably stay rather small. Plus in the end without the built in Legacy, do you really want a forum? I feel like forums are old news for most. Even I have gotten use to simply going to Reddit for the quick info I would go to GAF for. Yes, discusion is cool, but honestly as I've gotten older I care so much less for talking about games.

I hope a replacement for, or indeed GAF itself, comes back. Changes has to made of course but I posted there for years because it used to be a very good forum.

Yes, it had problems that caught up with it in the end. But it was a popular game site once upon a time for a reason.

Loved some of the people,

hated the management.

[exGAF]

I feel where some of you come from, where everything is an agression but well, Nazi's,alt-right can eat shit.

Which is all super fine and dandy, until you start defining "alt-right Nazi" as "anyone who doesn't agree with me". This is the problem with Millennials in general - everything has to be either black or white. That, and also the fact that they have apparently never read Animal Farm.

I think Millenials aren't fond of literature in general. Everything has to be bite-sized and simple.

[vas_a_morir]

Who is this Bobby Roberts fellow I keep hearing about? What did he do?