Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[injurai]

I kinda hope evilore deletes the entirety of the site in an attempt to destroy evidence just so all my old embarrassing posts from 2009-10 can be purged from memory.

I know what you mean.  I was an elite W of Social Studies Warrior's.  I feel bad for making that culture acceptable

Same. I wish I could undo but I can't. But we have to live with the fact that we helped contribute to gaf's direction.

Better to test the waters on some stupid vidya gaem forum than get arrested assaulting conservatives at Berkley.

[EightBitNate]

I also have some embarrassing stuff I’d like buried

I don't know your name, age, race, your job, or even where you're from. Literally the only thing I know about you is that you accidentally watched porn within hearing distance of your sister.

Fun fact: my name’s not even Nate.

[FreeNudeLyleLanley]

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon

[I am (not) a weeb]

So... what’s the story now? Are any of these many new juniors venturing out beyond this thread? Is gaming side more active?

I don’t play games anymore really, so I never go there. All I know is the porn thread hasn’t picked up much.

no lie, it blew my mind when I found out this place had a gaming side after lurking as long as I had. I'd never seen it referenced or anything so when I clicked the general tab I was like "holy shit what"

[thehunter116]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

This isn't the recently dead forum Neogaf. We can be anti-Trump while still recognizing that not all of his supporters are racist shit heels. But they sure did vote for one. Anyways, most of us can kinda understand - maybe - on a conceptual level why someone would vote for Trump (depending on their reasons of course) but that is not here or there because the administration has spent the entire past year fucking America in the ass without lube and doesn't justify why you would still support him now, after all this time.

That being said anyone who still supports him to this day are racists, full stop.

[hungrynoob]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

This isn't the recently dead forum Neogaf. We can be anti-Trump while still recognizing that not all of his supporters are racist shit heels. But they sure did vote for one. Anyways, most of us can kinda understand - maybe - on a conceptual level why someone would vote for Trump (depending on their reasons of course) but that is not here or there because the administration has spent the entire past year fucking America in the ass without lube and doesn't justify why you would still support him now, after all this time.

Listen absolutely, but not everyone consumes news in the same way, if you can conceptualise how people can vote for trump, im sure you could understand how that narrative could be maintained via certain media outlets to certain percentages of the voter base. If theres anything ive learned its that, never be surprised at how people reach their conclusions from the news.

[Himu]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

That’s kinda what I mean.  I don’t understand how anyone can feel passionately about either of them.  The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.   

you are one dumb motherfucker then

This is what I mean.  On The Bore we can debate this.  On GAF the Trump supporter would be swiftly banned just because "obviously" supporting Trump is "racist, misogynistic, anti LGTB, etc".   There was zero room for debate on GAF and militant leftist politics spilled into every aspect of the site including gaming.  Shit was ridiculous.

You are correct. I was perma banned for clowning a thread where they were triggered by the fact that evil characters in fighting games like Evil Ryu have darker skin than their non evil counterparts.

[EightBitNate]

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon

Bobby is our deep throat 

[Boredfrom]

Btw, I think that the exacerbation around everything Trump does is not sane either. We've reached the point where Trump could stop world famine and people would still feel he has darker ulterior motives. Don't deny it, you know it to be true.

He likes to act like a cartoon super villain so people are going to expect ulterior motives by default. The guy is a shallow motherfucker.

I pretty sure there comic plots about Lex Luthor stoping the world famine just to brainwash people.

[ZephyrFate]

How fucking dumb are these juniors lecturing Zephyr about how shit rolls around here? "STOP BAN BAITING YOUR POWERS ARE USELESS HERE MUAHAHAHA" with a grand total of 12 hours on their account. Dumb as fuck. Do you distinguished mentally-challenged fellows not see the "senior member" tag?

don't stop me from ban baiting 

[seagrams hotsauce]

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon

Bobby is our deep throat 

So he sucks a lotta dick cuz he's got a clit in his throat?

[hungrynoob]

fuck off your tags mean nothing to me. bastards. 

[Oblivion]

Do the former mods have enough pull that they could bring even a fraction of the former gaf audience to whatever new forum they plan on making? People frequented gaf for lightning fast news updates and to hang out with a select group of posters. I somehow doubt there's a large contingent of gaffers willing to follow the likes of besada to the gates of online hell.

[SRTtoZ]

You know, after 2 days of this dumpster fire, like 90% of this could have been avoided if Lore immediately admitted he was a creep for all his past indiscretions and apologized. Maybe stop posting and have Stump or some other lackey become a figurehead and keep collecting the checks.

Dude really had no self-awareness, or the capacity to see himself other than what he projected to GAF smh

Could have easily apologized and gave his side of everything, as creepy as he was/is. Even if most people didn't believe him or still wanted to riot, at least man up.

[El Babua]

FYI, the only way to get someone banned here is to send demi a nice crisp $20.

Or, if you're sufficiently robust, a dick pic.

[etiolate]

neogaf doesn't understand that the type of moderation they employ attracts the type of bad people that keep getting revealed

The userbase doesn't get it because the userbase gets purged so often that the only thing left is the most infantile posters.

[ZephyrFate]

FYI, the only way to get someone banned here is to send demi a nice crisp $20.

Or, if you're sufficiently robust, a dick pic.

I was really gunning for my drunken/weed-induced discussions about my experiences with big black cock to really seal the deal on a ban

[injurai]

What would be hilarious is if Neogaf comes back and it ends up being a half decent place.

[Bamelin]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

This isn't the recently dead forum Neogaf. We can be anti-Trump while still recognizing that not all of his supporters are racist shit heels. But they sure did vote for one. Anyways, most of us can kinda understand - maybe - on a conceptual level why someone would vote for Trump (depending on their reasons of course) but that is not here or there because the administration has spent the entire past year fucking America in the ass without lube and doesn't justify why you would still support him now, after all this time.

That being said anyone who still supports him to this day are racists, full stop.

WRONG Trump.gif

Beauty of the Bore is that we can discuss and engage with each other unlike shitty GAF where WrongThink was banned.

I've been lurking the Bore since my perma on GAF 3 months ago.  Another bore member said it right.  This site is GAF circa 2005 - 2009 before Social Studies Warrior bullshit infected and ruined what made GAF great.  GAF but with a long enough history to have developed its own personality distinctly different from GAF.

Regardless of whether or not you believe in Social Studies Warrior stuff or not, being able to engage in debate with folks with different ideological bents than you is important and creates a site that is not an echo chamber aka like GAF.  Also, if the core part of a site is Gaming then the political bullshit should remain where it belongs in an OT politics thread.  Or if a game has some politically debatable statement perhaps debated in a seperate thread rather than BANNING members for disagreeing with your narrow point of view.

From what I've seen lurking so far, The Bore allows diversity of thought.  Sure you may be mocked ... or defended depending on who agrees with you or not, but you won't be banned by mods for thinking differently politically from the herd.

[Opiate]

Do the former mods have enough pull that they could bring even a fraction of the former gaf audience to whatever new forum they plan on making? People frequented gaf for lightning fast news updates and to hang out with a select group of posters. I somehow doubt there's a large contingent of gaffers willing to follow the likes of besada to the gates of online hell.

Individually the answer is clearly no, but if (for example) Cyan, Stump, Charlequin, Nirolak and a few others decided to work together to build a new place? It's possible, at least. It really matters which mods we're talking about, though.

Was Shouta still a mod to the end?

[EightBitNate]

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon

Bobby is our deep throat 

So he sucks a lotta dick cuz he's got a clit in his throat?

Oooh that’s a mental image I didn’t need to see

[etiolate]

the only way gaf can reform into anything decent is if they ditch the OT and be a gaming only site

plus ditch their besada's

[ZephyrFate]

If you guys really don't like how GAF was always political how about you fuckers stop getting political in a thread designated for GAF fuckery? Take it to the politics thread or, if your still infatuated with the overgrown oompa loompa testicle with the hair piece, take it to VOAT.

prepare for an exodus of scorned Trump supporters from NeoGAF. Bamelin is just the beginning

[Boredfrom]

I will preface this by saying I absolutely do not like trump.

However, do you honestly believe that all trump supporters hold up the same discriminatory umbrella? Just because we can see on a continual basis how much of a fuck up trump is doesnt mean there arent a lot of people among the racists who voted for trump in hopes of an economical turnaround and are still hoping for, keep in mind many things he says are aimed at stringing his voter base along also, just because you can see through it does not mean everyone can.

I'm sorry but taking such an absolute stance on any (political) subject is incredibly naive.

This isn't the recently dead forum Neogaf. We can be anti-Trump while still recognizing that not all of his supporters are racist shit heels. But they sure did vote for one. Anyways, most of us can kinda understand - maybe - on a conceptual level why someone would vote for Trump (depending on their reasons of course) but that is not here or there because the administration has spent the entire past year fucking America in the ass without lube and doesn't justify why you would still support him now, after all this time.

That being said anyone who still supports him to this day are racists, full stop.

WRONG Trump.gif

Beauty of the Bore is that we can discuss and engage with each other unlike shitty GAF where WrongThink was banned.

I've been lurking the Bore since my perma on GAF 3 months ago.  Another bore member said it right.  This site is GAF circa 2005 - 2009 before Social Studies Warrior bullshit infected and ruined what made GAF great.

Regardless of whether or not you believe in Social Studies Warrior stuff or not, being able to engage in debate with folksxwith different ideological bents than you is important and creates a site that is not an echo chamber aka like GAF.  Also, if the core part of a site is Gaming then the political bullshit should remain where it belongs in an OT politics thread.  Or if a game has some politically debatable statement perhaps debated in a seperate thread rather than BANNING members for disagreeing with your narrow point of view.

From what I've seen lurking so far, The Bore allows diversity of thought.  Sure you may be mocked ... or defended depending on who agrees with you or not, but you won't be banned by mods for thinking differently politically from the herd.

Blatant dicksucking is not not a virtue, dude.

[daemon]

Clinton v Trump, oh lord...

Many here are not exactly pro Clinton, either.

That’s kinda what I mean.  I don’t understand how anyone can feel passionately about either of them.  The Clintons creep me out more than trump does, so I guess in that sense I prefer him.

Also, that's a false dichotomy.

You can call them both equally shit (for vastly different reasons) and move on with your life like I did.

Giant douche vs turd sandwich

[Opiate]

Do the former mods have enough pull that they could bring even a fraction of the former gaf audience to whatever new forum they plan on making? People frequented gaf for lightning fast news updates and to hang out with a select group of posters. I somehow doubt there's a large contingent of gaffers willing to follow the likes of besada to the gates of online hell.

The vast majority of posters will have no fucking clue any new forums are even created.

GAF will come back online, and many will come back to it.

My prediction at least.

I'm not sure I agree, but at this point we're just talking margins.

I could see, for instance, 20% floating off -- either to splinter sites or just deciding enough is enough and doing something completely different with their lives. The remaining 80% will lose some of their friends or favorite posters in that 20%, and some of those will in turn drift off, and so forth: it's entirely likely that 6 months from now GAF will have 50% of the traffic it did just last week. But if your point is simply "it won't die," then that is absolutely guaranteed.

[EightBitNate]

If you guys really don't like how GAF was always political how about you fuckers stop getting political in a thread designated for GAF fuckery? Take it to the politics thread or, if your still infatuated with the overgrown oompa loompa testicle with the hair piece, take it to VOAT.

ok but you see my choice in political party is profoundly better than everyone else’s choice in political party.

[etiolate]

trump supporters in this place's political thread would be fun

[Oblivion]

Do the former mods have enough pull that they could bring even a fraction of the former gaf audience to whatever new forum they plan on making? People frequented gaf for lightning fast news updates and to hang out with a select group of posters. I somehow doubt there's a large contingent of gaffers willing to follow the likes of besada to the gates of online hell.

Individually the answer is clearly no, but if (for example) Cyan, Stump, Charlequin, Nirolak and a few others decided to work together to build a new place? It's possible, at least. It really matters which mods we're talking about, though.

Was Shouta still a mod to the end?

Shouta was de-modded a while ago.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I think bame is snatching the "worst noob" crown away from IrishNinja in my book

[Opiate]

Do the former mods have enough pull that they could bring even a fraction of the former gaf audience to whatever new forum they plan on making? People frequented gaf for lightning fast news updates and to hang out with a select group of posters. I somehow doubt there's a large contingent of gaffers willing to follow the likes of besada to the gates of online hell.

Individually the answer is clearly no, but if (for example) Cyan, Stump, Charlequin, Nirolak and a few others decided to work together to build a new place? It's possible, at least. It really matters which mods we're talking about, though.

Was Shouta still a mod to the end?

Shouta was de-modded a while ago.

I thought that might occur. He pretty consistently defended me in those aformentioned mod debates and seemed like the next most exposed branch waiting to be pruned.

[nappy]

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon

You know it's killing him to not get mentioned by name. You know he didn't ask to remain anonymous.

[Oblivion]

Considering The Bore is the most successful gaf offshoot forum*, what percentage of gaf's population has this place captured? Probably less than 1%.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

*aside from, OA I guess

[close]

[joe_zazen]

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[Interficium]

[benjipwns]

Probably was posted but I just got to the page where someone found the work around the GAF url's to the OT, this was the last Lime post:

They are having a fun time discussing the Gaf meltdown over at "the bore" (dot com). I've signed up, just waiting for the membership.

Lot of ex-gafers in there....a lot of the fun ones, I might add.

I just looked it up and it's just a bunch of disgruntled dudes who can't stand that GAF didn't allow them to be sexist or racist because of those damn SJWs and that damn political correctness. How pathetic of a life must these people have to hate-follow another site?

but if people are into that sort of community before it turns full on alt-right and start aligning with neo-nazis, go ahead.

we made it distinguished black feggits

[Boredfrom]

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

In contrast to those professed views, Kotaku has spoken with long-time members who say they were recently banned for making what they saw as progressive arguments. One said they were banned for arguing that now-deceased Playboy mogul Hugh Hefner is not a feminist icon

You know it's killing him to not get mentioned by name. You know he didn't ask to remain anonymous.

Is kind of telling that they choose to not name him (Jason editorial 'skills')

[Opiate]

I could see, for instance, 20% floating off -- either to splinter sites or just deciding enough is enough and doing something completely different with their lives. The remaining 80% will lose some of their friends or favorite posters in that 20%, and some of those will in turn drift off, and so forth: it's entirely likely that 6 months from now GAF will have 50% of the traffic it did just last week. But if your point is simply "it won't die," then that is absolutely guaranteed.

Oh yeah it'll shrink for sure;  but if/when it comes back online it will stunt the chance of the splinter forums growing IMO.

They could also last;  if you have a few hundred active posters that is actually a worthwhile forum to keep up.  But it's not going to be anything that makes anyone serious money IMO.

I think that's true but would add this is very time sensitive. If GAF comes back up online right now, they can significantly mitigate the damage: every hour they're down more posters check back in, see the site is down, google what's up, and start looking around.

[EightBitNate]

Considering The Bore is the most successful gaf offshoot forum*, what percentage of gaf's population has this place captured? Probably less than 1%.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

*aside from, OA I guess

[close]

I think this thread peaked at 700 viewers, and I’m assuming a much smaller amount actually registered. So maybe ~250ish new accounts? 100 or so that will actually stay?

[Atramental]

You can call them both equally shit

You can, sure. You can sound dumb as fuck saying this too.

Hrrm. Or maybe I just have vastly different criteria for what I value in a politician than you do. 

[OnlyRegret]

Probably was posted but I just got to the page where someone found the work around the GAF url's to the OT, this was the last Lime post:

They are having a fun time discussing the Gaf meltdown over at "the bore" (dot com). I've signed up, just waiting for the membership.

Lot of ex-gafers in there....a lot of the fun ones, I might add.

I just looked it up and it's just a bunch of disgruntled dudes who can't stand that GAF didn't allow them to be sexist or racist because of those damn Social Studies Warriors and that damn political correctness. How pathetic of a life must these people have to hate-follow another site?

but if people are into that sort of community before it turns full on alt-right and start aligning with neo-nazis, go ahead.

we made it distinguished black feggits

How do you do, my fellow Nazi?
I feel a need to enslave some Soviets

[Himu]

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Did modus make these

[tuna_love]

bamelin liking trump is one thing, but being a playstation mvp 

[Opiate]

Was Tyler a coke fiend Opiate?

Not to knowledge. Plenty of faults, but drugs generally weren't one of them (outside of alcohol).

[FartOfWar]

I don't get how there's a market of people hungry for GAF moderation. "GAF mod" on a resume is incriminating if anything. I don't get why GAF mods are hungry to moderate more forums. Where they getting the time to work without pay? None of it makes any sense.

Right.  Beseda, Kagari, et all couldn't even wait 24 hours without shoving themselves to the front of the food line in the discord refugee camp to vouch for modship again.  It's weird

Not to belabor the obvious, but Occam's razor suggests that their ego was significantly attached to their status as internet forum moderator. This isn't even weird: people's egos are often tied up in very silly things if they happen to attain status or prestige in them. Somewhere out there is some guy who is particularly proud that he has the world's largest Miller Light beer can collection.

I was politely suggesting as much. And that they're on the dole.

[ZephyrFate]

FYI, the only way to get someone banned here is to send demi a nice crisp $20.

Or, if you're sufficiently robust, a dick pic.

I was really gunning for my drunken/weed-induced discussions about my experiences with big black cock to really seal the deal on a ban

You must not know your audience

I discovered my audience through the in-depth private messages I received discussing this very, very big topic.

[EightBitNate]

You can call them both equally shit

You can, sure. You can sound dumb as fuck saying this too.

Hrrm. Or maybe I just have vastly different criteria for what I value in a politician than you do. 

Cmon. You can say Hillary sucks in her own right, but she really can’t be compared to Trump.

[Barry Egan]

shitty graphic design is a GAF hallmark, at least they are getting that part right.

[Bamelin]

If you guys really don't like how GAF was always political how about you fuckers stop getting political in a thread designated for GAF fuckery? Take it to the politics thread or, if your still infatuated with the overgrown oompa loompa testicle with the hair piece, take it to VOAT.

Obviously the answer is that a part of why GAF fell apart WAS the emphasis on banning political WrongThink.

As for VOAT, most Trump supporters are Civic Nationalists not White Nationalists.  There is a huge fucking difference despite what you may have heard on GAF where amyone right of Stalin was a Nazi.

I followed /v/Neofa for news on GAF fuckery, it's how I found out about the Bore.  But VOAT's not for me just as it would not be for any self respecting /r/the_donald followers.  We support Civic Nationalism that embraces all races and creeds.

[injurai]

I thought that might occur. He pretty consistently defended me in those aformentioned mod debates and seemed like the next most exposed branch waiting to be pruned.

What really was the moderations end game in all of this? Cut out anyone that didn't fall in line? Cut out anyone with not concrete enough skeletons that they could be controlled? To move gaf into all out political purification mode? I know none of them saw the sudden backlash against Evilore coming. They probably thought they'd be rolling pretty or something with their experiment for years to come.

[daemon]

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This is the equivalent of aids and cancer in graphic design.

[Boredfrom]

If you guys really don't like how GAF was always political how about you fuckers stop getting political in a thread designated for GAF fuckery? Take it to the politics thread or, if your still infatuated with the overgrown oompa loompa testicle with the hair piece, take it to VOAT.

Obviously the answer is that a part of why GAF fell apart WAS the emphasis on banning political WrongThink.

As for VOAT, most Trump supporters are Civic Nationalists not White Nationalists.  There is a huge fucking difference despite what you may have heard on GAF where amyone right of Stalin was a Nazi.

I followed babygoats for news on GAF fuckery, it's how I found out about the Bore.  But VOAT's not for me just as it would be for any self respecting /r/the_donald followers.  We support Civic Nationalism that embraces all races and creeds.

Oh, you are just trolling.

[ZephyrFate]

Trump literally does not follow what you believe in, Bamelin.

also "civic nationalism" 

[nomis]

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are they going for a “14 words” vibe with this shit? 

[OnlyRegret]

Why was Shouta ousted? Didn't he do nothing besides be the fightan games man

[Propagandhim]

Resetera sounds like the worm parasite that goes in your peehole in those South American rivers

[Oblivion]

Oh forgot to ask. I was without internet for the past weekend and so I just only caught bits and pieces of this recent gaf drama. From what I read, Jason Schreir posted a piece on Evilore and that drunk girl in the shower, which resulted in him (temporarily?) shutting down the forum. But what I'm not clear on is, was there some backlash among the mods leading to them deciding to make a new forum? Or is that the result of them thinking that gaf is shut down permanently?

[Sman]

Posts are created faster than I can read them. I go take a piss and when I come back, 10 new pages. 

Anyway, I just find it amazing opiate is back for some reason but all those who moderated GAF only a few days ago just disappeared. Besada used to lurk on this forum big time. But now? Gone (or just logged out still lurking).

[Bamelin]

Trump literally does not follow what you believe in, Bamelin.

also "civic nationalism" 

Yes haha, believing in American Patriotism, how funny.

I'll be sticking around, cya in the politics thread

[joe_zazen]

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