Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[BangaLore]

After the initial rush, it seems like resetera users will be looking around wondering where the guy who posted news on gaf is

This is exactly how it's going to play out.

People are split between gaf and restera.
Many casual lurker will keep lurking neogaf until they will stop because it will be dead.
After the initial boost given by the scandal people will stop visiting resetera daily and post much less.
Resetera will die in due to infights and paranoia.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Just listened to the new Bombcast and Gerstmann was particularly brutal on Tyler and to anyone still posting over there.   Just shitting on them hard.  I don't really have the time anymore to follow all of this forum drama but I gotta admit that was great to hear.

[Himu]

Man I completely forgot about what happened with Hito

What happened ? Natural ? Sudden ?

sudden and natural? he died in his sleep, i forget the reason.

I heard he was awake when it happened. He got like a burst blood vessel in his lung.

[Oblivion]

Didn't he have a stroke?

[pj]

Evilore made hundreds of thousands of dollars and used it for fuck all. He could have turned Neogaf into a business but instead he left it an outdated vb forum with malicious ads because it was easy money.

The site was going to die soon even without the shower escapades because mobile/adblock was killing it and his work ethic is awful and GAF Gold was never going to happen. He should have monetized years ago like SA.

He made Millions. In 2012 alone he claimed to have made $400,000. And the forum grew significantly in the past 4 years.

Even if he makes some livable income off what's left of gaf, the fact that he'll never get back to the highs of its most successful days should probably take a toll on him. Formerly successful people gauge their success based on their best moments, so going from even $400k to $100k should eat him up from the inside.

Gaf grew since 2012 but so did adblock.  A year or two ago he said 90% of desktop users were blocking ads and mobile ad blocking was rapidly increasing.

100k in the post resetera era seems optimistic

[Forgotten A. Turnbuckle]

This talk of Hito made me think of El scorcho. 
That was the most heartbreaking thread to me. 
And because of narcissistic creepy fuck Tyler that and all the other meaningful threads are locked and a threat to be lost forever.  Yeah it's just a forum, but once you get past the shit posts there was/is a lot of genuinely good stuff. 



 :'( :'( :'(

[Raist]

He's been saying that stuff about adblock forever.

[H.I.V.E.]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/certain-actions-in-super-mario-odyssey-not-being-possible-in-portable-mode-is-disappointing.1262/page-5

Worse gamers than polygon. Everything is too complicated these days 

[Novid]

Why didn't Evilore invest in himself and use his money as a one way ticket to higher education as a fall back plan or at best to further make neogaf better with his own coding prowress? You can literally teach yourself how to code on the internet for free rn and this dude instead galvanized around the world. I'm not saying traveling isn't good (because it is), but with the kind of money EviLore had most of us would have spent it far more productive ways. I hope he's invested his money into savings. He's gonna need it.

With that kind of money you can literally buy your way into an Ivy League.

because he thought he was James Bond of the nerd sect. James Bond dont code, he gets swole for the ladies

[T-Short]

Why did the staff cover for him after the fact? We why did you guys get gagged? Why was the response to people talking about it, which was reasonable, to ban and censor? People still didn't know he was a pedophile after the fact because all the information was hidden. Although not intended it made it look like the staff was defending him and it made no sense why anyone would go the lengths you guys were going to make sure that a former member wasn't in prison for child porn despite the low age requirement for the site (13!) and it be a nerdy hobby site, which means lots of your users were undoubtedly vulnerable. Yet still, no one was allowed to talk about it. I didn't post or anything of course, because I got the axe a few weeks before but I witnessed a lot of people I knew get banned - permanently - for mentioning Amirox was a pedo. It was awkward, lame, and made no sense and frankly, now that gaf is dead and most of you guys aren't staff anymore there need to be answers.

I was honestly so inactive during that period, particularly as a mod, that I never even really paid attention to what our response was and certainly not that Evil actually denied knowing his real name, though I absolutely fault myself for not paying more attention then. I guess I just assumed that the response would have been the obvious "We never knew he was this much of a monstrous shithead, we hope he rots in prison". Never modded in that regard either. I absolutely should have left then.

This also includes why staff banned people for mentioning EviLore shower thing, but then ditched the site two days later. It's like your first line of defense for anything was ban and discussion wasn't allowed.

Was abroad, don't know. Evil's explanation of what happened was the first thing I saw of the entire thing when getting back. I was gone as a mod a few hours after reading it.

I've also been absent from the site for a few years now, so I totally missed out on both the Amirox thing and this Evilore thing. I didn't even log in to "hand in my resignation" so to speak before the site went into lockdown, probably won't even bother going forward either.

[jorma]

Amirox's sentencing might be next week. I wonder which, if any, forum will allow discussion of it.

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Front row seats

I can be thebore reporter considering I’m near where his sentencing is

Cool. Do it. If possible, tell him that neogaf died while he was in prison. And then report the look on his face.

I mean if nothing else i'm sure he will be surprised to hear that he now has a longer life expectancy than gaf.

[Oblivion]

I'm in!




So long, jerkass!

[samir]

"I could definitely kick Bruce Lee's ass in a fight"

[Novid]

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Gotdamn that mug is triggering me, VomKriege.

 

Has she not gotten hit with the cultural appropriation tag for those big earrings she wears???

you should see how many beckys that look like that get so many black dudes i mean damn there better looking beckys out there.
And like i said the tape with all that ugh...is out there.

[Nabbis]

I wonder how many of you will be a nice perm haircut in a years time and come back running here. 

[Trurl]

i just realized the resetera logo looks like the male sex symbol

way to be inclusive guys

Hey, in a subtle way you're right.  AND the eggplant. 🤔

[Hobies cat]

Presumably the cops were going to comb through Amir0x's computer. I wonder if they'll have a closer look at GAF.

Maybe if enough anonymous complaints tie Amir0x to shady activity at Gaf...

http://www.monroecountyda.com/anonymouscomplaint/

Sure, making stuff up is great.

I assume a rather significant portion of his browsing history is going to be GAF. So I wonder if they got/will get a subpoena for access to his account.

Who said anything about making anything up? That's you that said that. All I am saying is man convicted of child porn had long association with an  individual who demonstrated, questionable sexual behavior. Look at Evilore here at the 8 second mark. Tell me that isn't wrong :

There's a significant difference between saying "they seized his computer, I wonder if they're going to look at GAF" and "here's the link to make anonymous complaints tieing Amir0x to shady activity at Gaf..."

Wow, just wow. I'm stunned. Even the attachment of this video couldn't make you see a joke when you are looking at one. What's Christmas like around your house? A mortuary?

EDIT: Did you really think I was suggesting the actions of an unrelated naked doll in a TV show was grounds to file a tip report?

[Let's Cyber]

This thread still grows really fast during the day, brehs.

Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that the Bore is "back to normal". It is not back to normal. 

[Pills Here]

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Thug1

[The Legend of Sunblade]

i could've sworn hito and lore were bros to the end

they had quite a falling out during the last few years of his life ()

I mean, he quit being an admin for a reason.

Bringing up Hito just makes me want to cry.

yeah same. I was a huge ass to him for the first few years I knew him and although we were on good terms and talked often for a while before he passed I still immensely regret how I was to him before then 

hito and I chatted about the new sailor moon anime on twitter regularly and I have not been able to watch it since he died.

Hearing shit like this makes me legit sad. It's the reason why I tried helping get people back together.

One my last interactions with Hito around a month before he passed was having a back and forth about Alundra, with me really not digging the game a lot while he explained to me the reasons why he really liked it. I haven't had the chance to do so yet, but I still have the PSN version of the game installed on my Vita waiting for a bit of time where I can give the game a second shot. At the least, its a permanent reminder of the many things that I wouldn't have even considered giving a shot if he hadn't been there encouraging me to try them out.

[tummyfat]

Holy shit

Without the mods enforcing the correct opinions - people are actually free to admit they don't hate TotalBiscuit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/totalbiscuit-talks-about-living-with-stage-4-cancer.1353/

I only counted like two or three "I don't care for his work" type comments

More likely, everyone is just playing it safe until the prime directive is handed down

[H.I.V.E.]

This thread still grows really fast during the day, brehs.

Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that the Bore is "back to normal". It is not back to normal. 

Listen little marco.

Nah but seriously resetera is so functioning atm with so little stuff of interest I can't visit for more than a few minutes before my eyes close and I need to stay up for Mario.

Neogaf is a bit better but it is like observing trolls without an audience asking us the question is it trolling if none are there to be trolled.

So once and for all let me say it is game over man!

At least for now. Nice meeting all cya elsewhere on here   

[team filler]

Where does the thug1 thing come from?

[Raist]

oh and i just realized threads don't have icons so you can't tell at a glance whether there's been a new post since the last time you visited the thread

did people get paid to design this garbage forum software

You're supposed to read everything.

[demi]

Where does the thug1 thing come from?

That was his character in the movie he was playing for the shower girl

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Where does the thug1 thing come from?

It's Evilore's alter ego.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The name of the character he played in the film that the person he walked into the shower on made.

[close]

[team filler]

 

[Hobies cat]

oh and i just realized threads don't have icons so you can't tell at a glance whether there's been a new post since the last time you visited the thread

did people get paid to design this garbage forum software

Perhaps its intentional. Coercing subjects to reread information is a low grade indoctrination techni...er...never mind, they're just incompetent.

[Oblivion]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1454974

[Nuitangg]

Holy shit

Without the mods enforcing the correct opinions - people are actually free to admit they don't hate TotalBiscuit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/totalbiscuit-talks-about-living-with-stage-4-cancer.1353/

I only counted like two or three "I don't care for his work" type comments

More likely, everyone is just playing it safe until the prime directive is handed down

The real test is posting his tweet about cancer before he was diagnosed.

[Occam]

After the initial rush, it seems like resetera users will be looking around wondering where the guy who posted news on gaf is

But the most prolific providers of news on gaf have already moved to resetera and are posting there now. For instance Shinobi.

[Billy Big Bollocks]

"They'll be kicking themselves after OT reopens" 

[Broseidon]

i just realized the resetera logo looks like the male sex symbol

way to be inclusive guys

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-use-of-guys-as-a-gender-neutral-catch-all-while-speaking-in-party-chat.1360/

[Hobies cat]

After the initial rush, it seems like resetera users will be looking around wondering where the guy who posted news on gaf is

I was on a gaming pure forum this morning and they are quite oblivious to the Gaf situation and who is behind resetera. All they thought was that resetera (Henceforth known to me as RE because its full of zombies following zombies)was the new cool great place to be and none of them could figure out how register. They're in for a bit of a surprise.

[Billy Big Bollocks]

did any of the old mod team over there ever google 'Deaf Spacker'? amazing username 

[Trurl]

Sometimes I'll call girls "guys" to try stop any sexual tension. 

Also say "man" a lot

[Pills Here]

i just realized the resetera logo looks like the male sex symbol

way to be inclusive guys

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-use-of-guys-as-a-gender-neutral-catch-all-while-speaking-in-party-chat.1360/

 

[Nabbis]

Ahh, finally. Now people can talk about the real problems.

[meeb]

Holy shit

Without the mods enforcing the correct opinions - people are actually free to admit they don't hate TotalBiscuit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/totalbiscuit-talks-about-living-with-stage-4-cancer.1353/

I only counted like two or three "I don't care for his work" type comments

More likely, everyone is just playing it safe until the prime directive is handed down

The real test is posting his tweet about cancer before he was diagnosed.

Well? What tweet?

[Broseidon]

There's a name I haven't heard in a long time

[Nuitangg]

Holy shit

Without the mods enforcing the correct opinions - people are actually free to admit they don't hate TotalBiscuit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/totalbiscuit-talks-about-living-with-stage-4-cancer.1353/

I only counted like two or three "I don't care for his work" type comments

More likely, everyone is just playing it safe until the prime directive is handed down

The real test is posting his tweet about cancer before he was diagnosed.

Well? What tweet?

The one where he tells one of his followers to get cancer and die.     

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Holy shit

Without the mods enforcing the correct opinions - people are actually free to admit they don't hate TotalBiscuit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/totalbiscuit-talks-about-living-with-stage-4-cancer.1353/

I only counted like two or three "I don't care for his work" type comments

More likely, everyone is just playing it safe until the prime directive is handed down

The real test is posting his tweet about cancer before he was diagnosed.

Well? What tweet?

[Aeptia]

Holy shit

Without the mods enforcing the correct opinions - people are actually free to admit they don't hate TotalBiscuit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/totalbiscuit-talks-about-living-with-stage-4-cancer.1353/

I only counted like two or three "I don't care for his work" type comments

More likely, everyone is just playing it safe until the prime directive is handed down

The real test is posting his tweet about cancer before he was diagnosed.

Well? What tweet?

(Image removed from quote.)

LMAO

[Broseidon]

Spatula banned 

[Hobies cat]

Holy shit

Without the mods enforcing the correct opinions - people are actually free to admit they don't hate TotalBiscuit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/totalbiscuit-talks-about-living-with-stage-4-cancer.1353/

I only counted like two or three "I don't care for his work" type comments

More likely, everyone is just playing it safe until the prime directive is handed down

The real test is posting his tweet about cancer before he was diagnosed.

Well? What tweet?

(Image removed from quote.)

And when he apologized they lit his ass up like a bonfire:  https://twitter.com/totalbiscuit/status/329757137330896896?lang=en

Standard replies were like this:

https://twitter.com/KushCommander42/status/470231268039217153

[John Dunbar]

actually surprised just how rapidly gaf seems to be going down the drain. zelda review thread hit like 2000 posts in couple hours before any reviews even hit, but after a whole day odyssey thread is at like 300.

delicious.

[Aeptia]

Spatula banned 

First time I've witnessed a justified banning on GAF.

[tummyfat]

Subpar Spatula banned.

More proof that GG took over GAF like Hydra took over Shield

Evilore hasn't noticed this avatar yet: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252863656&postcount=27

[Nabbis]

Spatula banned 

noooo... 

[clothedmacuser]

After the initial rush, it seems like resetera users will be looking around wondering where the guy who posted news on gaf is

This is exactly how it's going to play out.

People are split between gaf and restera.
Many casual lurker will keep lurking neogaf until they will stop because it will be dead.
After the initial boost given by the scandal people will stop visiting resetera daily and post much less.
Resetera will die in due to infights and paranoia.

Paranoia and witch hunts will be the fun part.

[Aeptia]

actually surprised just how rapidly gaf seems to be going down the drain. zelda review thread hit like 2000 posts in couple hours before any reviews even hit, but after a whole day odyssey thread is at like 300.

delicious.

ResetEra was compared when it came to the Super Mario Odyssey OT. Most of the posts on REEEE are just emotional validation for the OP. Such contributions.

Does it matter how many posts a thread has if most of them are "Wow OP, good job"? That's not worthwhile contribution at all.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1455073

 

[Billy Big Bollocks]

It was always going to go downhill after this but if ELf had walked back any of that shit from the waypoint interview or his statement to the mods or his past history none of this would have been as bad. Obviously anyone who is hardcore "believe women" would still have gone regardless, but others may not have.

 seems like it's impossible for him to do a mea culpa (even a bullshit one) for fear of what it might do to his ego.

[Blair]

After the initial rush, it seems like resetera users will be looking around wondering where the guy who posted news on gaf is

Exactly. The main draw for lurkers and a lot of posters was GAF being a quick and informative gaming news aggregate

There are other draws, but this was the big one. Whoever, if anyone, can get this going again will win. Not sure if anyone will achieve the insane days of the early 2010s though

[Oblivion]

actually surprised just how rapidly gaf seems to be going down the drain. zelda review thread hit like 2000 posts in couple hours before any reviews even hit, but after a whole day odyssey thread is at like 300.

delicious.

ResetEra was compared when it came to the Super Mario Odyssey OT. Most of the posts on REEEE are just emotional validation for the OP. Such contributions.

Does it matter how many posts a thread has if most of them are "Wow OP, good job"? That's not worthwhile contribution at all.

It demonstrates a level of engagement  which is crucial to a healthy messageboard environment.

[tummyfat]

They're nuking a good chunk of the OT before bringing it back.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252880951&postcount=367

Testoftide am cry

[Aeptia]

Who's responsible for the idea of high res images and gifs in OTs?

I remember the BotW one KO'd the speed when loading the site. Absolutely horrendous trying to force my computer to load all those gifs at once.

[Himu]

It was always going to go downhill after this but if ELf had walked back any of that shit from the waypoint interview or his statement to the mods or his past history none of this would have been as bad. Obviously anyone who is hardcore "believe women" would still have gone regardless, but others may not have.

 seems like it's impossible for him to do a mea culpa (even a bullshit one) for fear of what it might do to his ego.

ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS APOLOGIZE FOR HIS BEHAVIOR IN THE WAYPOINT ARTICLE PROFUSELY.

That's all he had to do: apologize! Not only that but for past transgressions. And say he was going to get help.

[joeboy101]

They're nuking a good chunk of the OT before bringing it back.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252880951&postcount=367

Testoftide am cry

Further policy details are forthcoming - A Story of NuGAF

It was always going to go downhill after this but if ELf had walked back any of that shit from the waypoint interview or his statement to the mods or his past history none of this would have been as bad. Obviously anyone who is hardcore "believe women" would still have gone regardless, but others may not have.

 seems like it's impossible for him to do a mea culpa (even a bullshit one) for fear of what it might do to his ego.

ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS APOLOGIZE FOR HIS BEHAVIOR IN THE WAYPOINT ARTICLE PROFUSELY FOR HIS BEHAVIOR.

That's all he had to do: apologize! Not only that but for past transgressions. And say he was going to get help.

I was on that board for a while and I don’t recall him every once admitting to a mistake. His reticence in admitting to a possible fake one surprises me exactly naught.

[K]

The thing about NeoGAF is that EviLore has tied his own personal convictions and interest to the site that he has put himself in a situation that he feels like he can't get away from. EviLore should of enjoyed the ride for what it was and invested for a future after NeoGAF. Going by his decisions, he has not done any planning and has therefore decided to go down with the ship.

His reputation is tarnished. His website is beyond rescue. It's over.