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meeb

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16860 on: October 26, 2017, 08:05:28 PM »
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I voted for Trump. I truly thought he would help my family
If you thought this you should be banned from the planet.

Vote for him in jest
Vote for him because you hate Hillary
Vote for him because he was the Republican

But seriously thinking Trump would help your family :doge

Argue with a hypothetical breh.

Shaka Khan

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16861 on: October 26, 2017, 08:05:37 PM »
Please respond.

ResetEra's sign up is asking me to answer secret question that's not visible. Does that mean I'm a spy?
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Oblivion

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16862 on: October 26, 2017, 08:05:44 PM »
I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss of people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.
You're willing to reshape language? really? Get rid of "He" and "She", "you guys" 

all of it? really?
yeah, who gives a shit?
You're willing to go to jail for potentially using the wrong pronoun to describe a person? Canada passed a law for this. It's a hate crime if you fuck up someone's gender now over there lol.


No it's not, you putz.

Nobody's going to be going to jail because they accidentallly misgender someone. Hell, they won't go to jail even if they intentionally misgender someone. All the bill does is extends human rights protections to trans people that have been already granted to other minorities. The only way you'd go to jail for misgendering someone is if you do so while also say, advocating killing that same person.

Get that Breitbart shit out of here. God knows this thread doesn't need more of it.

In provinces where the rule was passed, yes they can potentially end up in jail due to the humans right tribunal. The process is this -> Misgendering -> Reported Misgendering -> new rule violation -> goes to Humans Rights Tribunal -. Tribunal decides to fine -> person refuses to pay fine -> they go to jail.

So they get a fine, and if they don't pay it, then they go to jail?

By that logic, traffic tickets are jailworthy crimes.



Nintex

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16865 on: October 26, 2017, 08:09:26 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1455118

  :badass
The problem with these suicides is that it ruins your chances of joining ResetEra. After all if the mobs catches you saying words like that they'll be sure to report it to the feds, I mean mods.
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meeb

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16866 on: October 26, 2017, 08:09:32 PM »
Please respond.

ResetEra's sign up is asking me to answer secret question that's not visible. Does that mean I'm a spy?


There's nothing there. You need to input a code that's only given to Discord community leaders.

Peasant registration (ironically, requiring paid email accounts) is coming tonight/tomorrow.

etiolate

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16867 on: October 26, 2017, 08:09:51 PM »
I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss of people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.
You're willing to reshape language? really? Get rid of "He" and "She", "you guys" 

all of it? really?
yeah, who gives a shit?
You're willing to go to jail for potentially using the wrong pronoun to describe a person? Canada passed a law for this. It's a hate crime if you fuck up someone's gender now over there lol.


No it's not, you putz.

Nobody's going to be going to jail because they accidentallly misgender someone. Hell, they won't go to jail even if they intentionally misgender someone. All the bill does is extends human rights protections to trans people that have been already granted to other minorities. The only way you'd go to jail for misgendering someone is if you do so while also say, advocating killing that same person.

Get that Breitbart shit out of here. God knows this thread doesn't need more of it.

In provinces where the rule was passed, yes they can potentially end up in jail due to the humans right tribunal. The process is this -> Misgendering -> Reported Misgendering -> new rule violation -> goes to Humans Rights Tribunal -. Tribunal decides to fine -> person refuses to pay fine -> they go to jail.

So they get a fine, and if they don't pay it, then they go to jail?

By that logic, traffic tickets are jailworthy crimes.

Of course they could be, but the difference is that a traffic ticket isn't a free speech issue so I doubt anyone will refuse to pay it on principle.

You also have to consider how that part of the new law doesn't actually help trans people in any way and only exists to chill speech or exist as an option to be abused. People didn't have a big objection to the rest of the law. Only the element that introduced compelled speech as acceptable law.

VomKriege

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Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16869 on: October 26, 2017, 08:10:23 PM »
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The user was warned for this post. https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-word-about-neogaf.290/

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i didn't even get a chance to read it

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I have some concerns with Reset.Please read this post with an open mind and I will try to be respectful.

I signed up because not only the fact I see potential in the site, but also the fact that I have concerns and don't know any other way to express them besides signing up and asking so I can get my answers straight from the horses mouth.

One of the biggest concerns with the site is that in many aspects it's a new GAF. That alone carries itself a certain type of baggage. While this isn't GAF in itself as it's a totally new site, it's still very much a site ran by former Gaffers. One big issue with Gaf was how the staff treated matters. By the end of its life, Neogaf had a very toxic environment lacking transparency. My perma ban for example is a ban many have contested as not being worthy not only of a permanent ban, but even a warning as all I did was express my opinion, albeit in my own way, without calling anyone any names. You can read it here. It felt like mods banned first, asked questions later and it forced and environment where users were constantly tip toeing on egg shells, never sure what would truly be ban worthy. For example, in one instance shortly prior to my perma ban, Massive Duck accused me of not being black. It ended up in a discussion that was very heated, but I was the only one banned because I called someone an idiota while Massive Duck was spared. It felt like certain posters were protected for God knows what reason and certain posters weren't - again, for whatever God knows beyond suggesting that policies of the staff were inconsistent at best.

In another example, I previously protected by staff - I do not know why - and in - again - a heated, albeit respectful, discussion about race Kinitari was banned just because he disagreed while I was spared. No one in that discussion was really worth banning, but that was a turning point where I realized that people were being banned not because they did an offense, but because the mod that banned them happened to disagree with their stance.

I shouldn't have to articulate how toxic an environment that is in a forum that promises to be about breeding discussion among e-friends.

Given that the staff are many prominent posters from Gaf that certainly posted in many hot threads on that site, I find it very concerned whether or not Reset is headed in a very similar area where the only way that goes is what the staff deems good, even if what's good isn't clearly explained.

I hope that the Reset staff are open to fostering an environment where people can actually talk about things and aren't banned just because of the way they think. That was one of the major undoings of Neogaf. One you start banning people for daring to mention that one of its most prominent members (Amirox) was now in jail for child pornography or that EviLore had gotten into a shower, naked, uninvited while standing on a platform of moral superiority, all bets are off and there's no reason to respect the staff, because they clearly don't respect themselves.

I pray that my post was presented in the cleanest, most respectful manner possible. I am far too used to being banned for being me and it worries me that I even have to preface this with,"please don't ban me."

Thank you for reading.

You're black? As a black person, what are your thoughts on the 'n' word?

Jenkem

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Marhunchy

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16871 on: October 26, 2017, 08:11:58 PM »
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I voted for Trump. I truly thought he would help my family
If you thought this you should be banned from the planet.

Vote for him in jest
Vote for him because you hate Hillary
Vote for him because he was the Republican

But seriously thinking Trump would help your family :doge

Argue with a hypothetical breh.

 :dead :dead :dead


Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16873 on: October 26, 2017, 08:13:15 PM »
Please respond.

ResetEra's sign up is asking me to answer secret question that's not visible. Does that mean I'm a spy?

It means you're late, because what you have to type in is the Discord verification code. Unlucky mate.

benjipwns

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16874 on: October 26, 2017, 08:13:25 PM »
Actually, yeah, about that diversity; are any of their mods conservatives?  Are they going to let conservatives get dogpiled?  Are they going to let conservatives like even have accounts and voice opinions civilly?
This won't be a problem as rednecks can't voice their opinion civilly.

Jenkem

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16875 on: October 26, 2017, 08:14:19 PM »
@VomKriege for the love of all that is Holy please change your avatar

 :brazilcry

Oblivion

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16876 on: October 26, 2017, 08:14:32 PM »
I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss of people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.
You're willing to reshape language? really? Get rid of "He" and "She", "you guys" 

all of it? really?
yeah, who gives a shit?
You're willing to go to jail for potentially using the wrong pronoun to describe a person? Canada passed a law for this. It's a hate crime if you fuck up someone's gender now over there lol.


No it's not, you putz.

Nobody's going to be going to jail because they accidentallly misgender someone. Hell, they won't go to jail even if they intentionally misgender someone. All the bill does is extends human rights protections to trans people that have been already granted to other minorities. The only way you'd go to jail for misgendering someone is if you do so while also say, advocating killing that same person.

Get that Breitbart shit out of here. God knows this thread doesn't need more of it.

In provinces where the rule was passed, yes they can potentially end up in jail due to the humans right tribunal. The process is this -> Misgendering -> Reported Misgendering -> new rule violation -> goes to Humans Rights Tribunal -. Tribunal decides to fine -> person refuses to pay fine -> they go to jail.

So they get a fine, and if they don't pay it, then they go to jail?

By that logic, traffic tickets are jailworthy crimes.

Of course they could be, but the difference is that a traffic ticket isn't a free speech issue so I doubt anyone will refuse to pay it on principle.

You also have to consider how that part of the new law doesn't actually help trans people in any way and only exists to chill speech or exist as an option to be abused. People didn't have a big objection to the rest of the law. Only the element that introduced compelled speech as acceptable law.

Canada (like every country on the planet) has limits on "free speech". So again, the protections that other minorities have, are simply extended to trans people. From what I read of that law, this only applies if someone is actively and continuously harassing someone by intentionally misgendering them (particularly in a case where it might be a boss/employee or landlord/tenant, etc.). It works the same as not using racial slurs for Black people or Hispanics.

injurai

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16877 on: October 26, 2017, 08:14:50 PM »
What do conservatives even stand for?

Tektonic

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16878 on: October 26, 2017, 08:14:53 PM »
isn't the code something like THEERABEGINS2017 or somesuch... i thought i saw that posted somewhere, as a way of getting everyone in the discords in without opening up public registration..

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Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16879 on: October 26, 2017, 08:14:59 PM »
Actually, yeah, about that diversity; are any of their mods conservatives?  Are they going to let conservatives get dogpiled?  Are they going to let conservatives like even have accounts and voice opinions civilly?
This won't be a problem as rednecks can't voice their opinion civilly.

Aren't there black conservatives like Tom Sowell?

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16880 on: October 26, 2017, 08:15:03 PM »
@VomKriege for the love of all that is Holy please change your avatar

 :brazilcry
wow, Tyler, how's your new alt-reich forum going?

Huff

  • stronger ties you have, more power you gain
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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16881 on: October 26, 2017, 08:15:21 PM »
this thread is such a snooze now :snore
dur

VomKriege

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16882 on: October 26, 2017, 08:15:22 PM »
@VomKriege for the love of all that is Holy please change your avatar

 :brazilcry

:umad
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Himu

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16883 on: October 26, 2017, 08:16:19 PM »
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The user was warned for this post. https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-word-about-neogaf.290/

Last edited by a moderator: 3 minutes ago
:lol

i didn't even get a chance to read it

Full post:

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I have some concerns with Reset.Please read this post with an open mind and I will try to be respectful.

I signed up because not only the fact I see potential in the site, but also the fact that I have concerns and don't know any other way to express them besides signing up and asking so I can get my answers straight from the horses mouth.

One of the biggest concerns with the site is that in many aspects it's a new GAF. That alone carries itself a certain type of baggage. While this isn't GAF in itself as it's a totally new site, it's still very much a site ran by former Gaffers. One big issue with Gaf was how the staff treated matters. By the end of its life, Neogaf had a very toxic environment lacking transparency. My perma ban for example is a ban many have contested as not being worthy not only of a permanent ban, but even a warning as all I did was express my opinion, albeit in my own way, without calling anyone any names. You can read it here. It felt like mods banned first, asked questions later and it forced and environment where users were constantly tip toeing on egg shells, never sure what would truly be ban worthy. For example, in one instance shortly prior to my perma ban, Massive Duck accused me of not being black. It ended up in a discussion that was very heated, but I was the only one banned because I called someone an idiota while Massive Duck was spared. It felt like certain posters were protected for God knows what reason and certain posters weren't - again, for whatever God knows beyond suggesting that policies of the staff were inconsistent at best.

In another example, I previously protected by staff - I do not know why - and in - again - a heated, albeit respectful, discussion about race Kinitari was banned just because he disagreed while I was spared. No one in that discussion was really worth banning, but that was a turning point where I realized that people were being banned not because they did an offense, but because the mod that banned them happened to disagree with their stance.

I shouldn't have to articulate how toxic an environment that is in a forum that promises to be about breeding discussion among e-friends.

Given that the staff are many prominent posters from Gaf that certainly posted in many hot threads on that site, I find it very concerned whether or not Reset is headed in a very similar area where the only way that goes is what the staff deems good, even if what's good isn't clearly explained.

I hope that the Reset staff are open to fostering an environment where people can actually talk about things and aren't banned just because of the way they think. That was one of the major undoings of Neogaf. One you start banning people for daring to mention that one of its most prominent members (Amirox) was now in jail for child pornography or that EviLore had gotten into a shower, naked, uninvited while standing on a platform of moral superiority, all bets are off and there's no reason to respect the staff, because they clearly don't respect themselves.

I pray that my post was presented in the cleanest, most respectful manner possible. I am far too used to being banned for being me and it worries me that I even have to preface this with,"please don't ban me."

Thank you for reading.

You're black? As a black person, what are your thoughts on the 'n' word?

Not a good word. I have reclaimed it though to not fear it. I say nicca a lot. When I was a kid I was beaten up while being called it so I'm not okay with non blacks using it. At the same time I find any attempt to censor it to n-word as a black person gives the word more power and fear. I saw a march ten years ago with black folks going down the street in rank and file holding a fucking banner saying to no to the n-word, which gives just the word power if you're so scared of it that you can't say it. That's all I'll say about that.
IYKYK

Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16884 on: October 26, 2017, 08:16:20 PM »
We'll see then. I think the fact bans are marked publicly means they won't be banning people for the reasons we saw at gaf. Call me naive I guess.
once you get down to regularly posting your views on the left and social studies warriors that you do here...i mean, that cereal thread is probably a good place to start

I'm a socialist. It's not like I'm a conservative. :sabu

Talking to some liberals that's just as bad.

Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16885 on: October 26, 2017, 08:16:36 PM »
this thread is such a snooze now :snore
I feel like starting a bait thread, but it's too early I think. Might wait a week.

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16886 on: October 26, 2017, 08:16:47 PM »
Actually, yeah, about that diversity; are any of their mods conservatives?  Are they going to let conservatives get dogpiled?  Are they going to let conservatives like even have accounts and voice opinions civilly?
This won't be a problem as rednecks can't voice their opinion civilly.

Aren't there black conservatives like Tom Sowell?

etiolate

  • Senior Member
Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16887 on: October 26, 2017, 08:17:12 PM »
Actually, yeah, about that diversity; are any of their mods conservatives?  Are they going to let conservatives get dogpiled?  Are they going to let conservatives like even have accounts and voice opinions civilly?
This won't be a problem as rednecks can't voice their opinion civilly.

Aren't there black conservatives like Tom Sowell?

The BCT told me he was just a lone brown corn pop.

Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16888 on: October 26, 2017, 08:17:13 PM »
What do conservatives even stand for?

The Anthem.

Pwnz

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16889 on: October 26, 2017, 08:18:15 PM »
What do conservatives even stand for?

Showering with friends  :tauntaun

VomKriege

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16890 on: October 26, 2017, 08:18:26 PM »
Also yeah, ResetEra layout is :trash
Too painful to read means too much effort to properly shitpost here. :larry
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riskVSreward

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16891 on: October 26, 2017, 08:19:13 PM »
We'll see then. I think the fact bans are marked publicly means they won't be banning people for the reasons we saw at gaf. Call me naive I guess.
once you get down to regularly posting your views on the left and social studies warriors that you do here...i mean, that cereal thread is probably a good place to start

I'm a socialist. It's not like I'm a conservative. :sabu

Actually, yeah, about that diversity; are any of their mods conservatives?  Are they going to let conservatives get dogpiled?  Are they going to let conservatives like even have accounts and voice opinions civilly?

If they can actually manage to not be shitheels in that regard, I will be amazed and they will actually be a worthy discussion forum and not GAF 2.0.                                                                                                       
LOL, of course not.

Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16892 on: October 26, 2017, 08:19:26 PM »
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The user was warned for this post. https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-word-about-neogaf.290/

Last edited by a moderator: 3 minutes ago
:lol

i didn't even get a chance to read it

Full post:

Quote
I have some concerns with Reset.Please read this post with an open mind and I will try to be respectful.

I signed up because not only the fact I see potential in the site, but also the fact that I have concerns and don't know any other way to express them besides signing up and asking so I can get my answers straight from the horses mouth.

One of the biggest concerns with the site is that in many aspects it's a new GAF. That alone carries itself a certain type of baggage. While this isn't GAF in itself as it's a totally new site, it's still very much a site ran by former Gaffers. One big issue with Gaf was how the staff treated matters. By the end of its life, Neogaf had a very toxic environment lacking transparency. My perma ban for example is a ban many have contested as not being worthy not only of a permanent ban, but even a warning as all I did was express my opinion, albeit in my own way, without calling anyone any names. You can read it here. It felt like mods banned first, asked questions later and it forced and environment where users were constantly tip toeing on egg shells, never sure what would truly be ban worthy. For example, in one instance shortly prior to my perma ban, Massive Duck accused me of not being black. It ended up in a discussion that was very heated, but I was the only one banned because I called someone an idiota while Massive Duck was spared. It felt like certain posters were protected for God knows what reason and certain posters weren't - again, for whatever God knows beyond suggesting that policies of the staff were inconsistent at best.

In another example, I previously protected by staff - I do not know why - and in - again - a heated, albeit respectful, discussion about race Kinitari was banned just because he disagreed while I was spared. No one in that discussion was really worth banning, but that was a turning point where I realized that people were being banned not because they did an offense, but because the mod that banned them happened to disagree with their stance.

I shouldn't have to articulate how toxic an environment that is in a forum that promises to be about breeding discussion among e-friends.

Given that the staff are many prominent posters from Gaf that certainly posted in many hot threads on that site, I find it very concerned whether or not Reset is headed in a very similar area where the only way that goes is what the staff deems good, even if what's good isn't clearly explained.

I hope that the Reset staff are open to fostering an environment where people can actually talk about things and aren't banned just because of the way they think. That was one of the major undoings of Neogaf. One you start banning people for daring to mention that one of its most prominent members (Amirox) was now in jail for child pornography or that EviLore had gotten into a shower, naked, uninvited while standing on a platform of moral superiority, all bets are off and there's no reason to respect the staff, because they clearly don't respect themselves.

I pray that my post was presented in the cleanest, most respectful manner possible. I am far too used to being banned for being me and it worries me that I even have to preface this with,"please don't ban me."

Thank you for reading.

You're black? As a black person, what are your thoughts on the 'n' word?

Not a good word. I have reclaimed it though to not fear it. I say nicca a lot. When I was a kid I was beaten up while being called it so I'm not okay with non blacks using it. At the same time I find any attempt to censor it to n-word as a black person gives the word more power and fear. I saw a march ten years ago with black folks going down the street in rank and file holding a fucking banner saying to no to the n-word, which just the word power if you're so scared of it that you can't say it. That's all I'll say about that.

Yeah I agree on the not caring part. I'm from the UK, so whenever I hear other UK black people saying it, I cringe a bit. We don't have the social stigma that is associated with Americans (even if it was still used as a racial slur).

I just laugh at people that try to police it as a word only minorities can say. My response is always the same: "Try and stop white people at a rap concert."

Case in point, I was at the BBK Takeover at The O2 like two months ago, so many white people dropped the word casually and didn't even flinch. I was almost shocked, but then not really. Just thought that was funny.

Nintex

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16893 on: October 26, 2017, 08:19:42 PM »
What even is a conservative.

I mean dumping $700 billion on the military and cutting taxes because "1% GDP = tremendous growth believe me" is not really conservative.
Mike Pence I would say is conservative and he's getting laughed out of the building by his Republican pals.

The bible says thou shall not kill but it says nothing about Drones.

The bible says thou shall not steal but it says nothing about refinanced subprime deluxe college loans.

 :doge
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Oblivion

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16894 on: October 26, 2017, 08:20:05 PM »
Also yeah, ResetEra layout is :trash

Fortunately, the option for the new dark theme can be accessed by full members.  :snob

Aeptia

  • Junior Member
Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16895 on: October 26, 2017, 08:20:48 PM »
Also, does anyone else think that REEEEE looks a bit...... empty? I see far too much dead space on the page, even though it has the same configuration as NeoGAF did a week ago.

And I just followed you Cindi.

Oblivion

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16896 on: October 26, 2017, 08:21:38 PM »
Also, does anyone else think that REEEEE looks a bit...... empty? I see far too much dead space on the page, even though it has the same configuration as NeoGAF did a week ago.

Really? I feel the opposite. It feels too cluttered, and the font size is a little too big.

Nintex

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16897 on: October 26, 2017, 08:23:30 PM »
Also, does anyone else think that REEEEE looks a bit...... empty? I see far too much dead space on the page, even though it has the same configuration as NeoGAF did a week ago.

And I just followed you Cindi.
It looks like all out war on design and user interaction. If I sign up that's what I'm going to help them with.
A half grey logo on a grey background. Just wat.

The name is ResetEra, but the logo says resetera.  :'(

The 'e' in that font looks like the Internet Explorer logo.
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benjipwns

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16898 on: October 26, 2017, 08:25:15 PM »
Remember, if you looked at #ResetERA you agreed to all their TOS:
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2.   The agreement is a legal contract between you and us. By accessing the website, you agree to be bound by the terms of this agreement. If you do not agree with the agreement, you should not visit the website.
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remist

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16899 on: October 26, 2017, 08:25:58 PM »
I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss of people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.
You're willing to reshape language? really? Get rid of "He" and "She", "you guys" 

all of it? really?
yeah, who gives a shit?
You're willing to go to jail for potentially using the wrong pronoun to describe a person? Canada passed a law for this. It's a hate crime if you fuck up someone's gender now over there lol.


No it's not, you putz.

Nobody's going to be going to jail because they accidentallly misgender someone. Hell, they won't go to jail even if they intentionally misgender someone. All the bill does is extends human rights protections to trans people that have been already granted to other minorities. The only way you'd go to jail for misgendering someone is if you do so while also say, advocating killing that same person.

Get that Breitbart shit out of here. God knows this thread doesn't need more of it.

In provinces where the rule was passed, yes they can potentially end up in jail due to the humans right tribunal. The process is this -> Misgendering -> Reported Misgendering -> new rule violation -> goes to Humans Rights Tribunal -. Tribunal decides to fine -> person refuses to pay fine -> they go to jail.

So they get a fine, and if they don't pay it, then they go to jail?

By that logic, traffic tickets are jailworthy crimes.

Of course they could be, but the difference is that a traffic ticket isn't a free speech issue so I doubt anyone will refuse to pay it on principle.

You also have to consider how that part of the new law doesn't actually help trans people in any way and only exists to chill speech or exist as an option to be abused. People didn't have a big objection to the rest of the law. Only the element that introduced compelled speech as acceptable law.

Canada (like every country on the planet) has limits on "free speech". So again, the protections that other minorities have, are simply extended to trans people. From what I read of that law, this only applies if someone is actively and continuously harassing someone by intentionally misgendering them (particularly in a case where it might be a boss/employee or landlord/tenant, etc.). It works the same as not using racial slurs for Black people or Hispanics.
There is a difference between reasonable restrictions on speech and compelled speech. Under the Canadian law simply refusing to use a preferred pronoun even if you instead use something neutral is against the law. The government requiring you to express certain things is entirely unconstitutional in the US and it is a shame that it is not in Canada. They had a chance to remove the compelled speech aspect of the law through amendment, but declined.

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16900 on: October 26, 2017, 08:26:48 PM »
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If that's the case, they should totally make derivative works on my future "Who can fart the loudest" thread. Now in progress and that.

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16901 on: October 26, 2017, 08:29:06 PM »
I have zero complaints about gaf and rascalERA's current state.
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Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16902 on: October 26, 2017, 08:29:46 PM »
Also, does anyone else think that REEEEE looks a bit...... empty? I see far too much dead space on the page, even though it has the same configuration as NeoGAF did a week ago.

And I just followed you Cindi.
It looks like all out war on design and user interaction. If I sign up that's what I'm going to help them with.
A half grey logo on a grey background. Just wat.

The name is ResetEra, but the logo says resetera.  :'(

The 'e' in that font looks like the Internet Explorer logo.

Can we spend time criticising the logo though:


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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16903 on: October 26, 2017, 08:30:30 PM »
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As mentioned in my previous post, the privacy of current and former users is a concern. Bringing back threads by request is the best method we currently have to respect that and bring back content users like.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252882652&postcount=396

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benjipwns

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16904 on: October 26, 2017, 08:30:56 PM »
If that's the case, they should totally make derivative works on my future "Who can fart the loudest" thread. Now in progress and that.
GAF ERA has the best memes!

Nintex

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16905 on: October 26, 2017, 08:32:13 PM »
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252882652&postcount=396

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How is privacy now suddenly a concern. They aren't fooling anyone.

"We're locking up OT so uh, you can't see Tyler's old posts because he forgot where and when he posted all his travel stories."
"You know 'p r i v a c y' "
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Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16906 on: October 26, 2017, 08:33:06 PM »
If that's the case, they should totally make derivative works on my future "Who can fart the loudest" thread. Now in progress and that.
GAF ERA has the best memes!

GAF has "Totally harmonious and consensual" and (she's bi). It's clear to see where the best memes are currently located.

Also, the left can't meme.

Nintex

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16907 on: October 26, 2017, 08:33:58 PM »
Also, does anyone else think that REEEEE looks a bit...... empty? I see far too much dead space on the page, even though it has the same configuration as NeoGAF did a week ago.

And I just followed you Cindi.
It looks like all out war on design and user interaction. If I sign up that's what I'm going to help them with.
A half grey logo on a grey background. Just wat.

The name is ResetEra, but the logo says resetera.  :'(

The 'e' in that font looks like the Internet Explorer logo.

Can we spend time criticising the logo though:

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I'm still at a loss as to what that purple thing is supposed to be. A GameCube molested by Malka?
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etiolate

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16908 on: October 26, 2017, 08:35:35 PM »
Hate speech laws are bad as well, but I'm not going to delve into that until you can realize compelled speech is terrible.



Oblivion

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16909 on: October 26, 2017, 08:35:43 PM »
I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss of people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.
You're willing to reshape language? really? Get rid of "He" and "She", "you guys" 

all of it? really?
yeah, who gives a shit?
You're willing to go to jail for potentially using the wrong pronoun to describe a person? Canada passed a law for this. It's a hate crime if you fuck up someone's gender now over there lol.


No it's not, you putz.

Nobody's going to be going to jail because they accidentallly misgender someone. Hell, they won't go to jail even if they intentionally misgender someone. All the bill does is extends human rights protections to trans people that have been already granted to other minorities. The only way you'd go to jail for misgendering someone is if you do so while also say, advocating killing that same person.

Get that Breitbart shit out of here. God knows this thread doesn't need more of it.

In provinces where the rule was passed, yes they can potentially end up in jail due to the humans right tribunal. The process is this -> Misgendering -> Reported Misgendering -> new rule violation -> goes to Humans Rights Tribunal -. Tribunal decides to fine -> person refuses to pay fine -> they go to jail.

So they get a fine, and if they don't pay it, then they go to jail?

By that logic, traffic tickets are jailworthy crimes.

Of course they could be, but the difference is that a traffic ticket isn't a free speech issue so I doubt anyone will refuse to pay it on principle.

You also have to consider how that part of the new law doesn't actually help trans people in any way and only exists to chill speech or exist as an option to be abused. People didn't have a big objection to the rest of the law. Only the element that introduced compelled speech as acceptable law.

Canada (like every country on the planet) has limits on "free speech". So again, the protections that other minorities have, are simply extended to trans people. From what I read of that law, this only applies if someone is actively and continuously harassing someone by intentionally misgendering them (particularly in a case where it might be a boss/employee or landlord/tenant, etc.). It works the same as not using racial slurs for Black people or Hispanics.
There is a difference between reasonable restrictions on speech and compelled speech. Under the Canadian law simply refusing to use a preferred pronoun even if you instead use something neutral is against the law. The government requiring you to express certain things is entirely unconstitutional in the US and it is a shame that it is not in Canada. They had a chance to remove the compelled speech aspect of the law through amendment, but declined.

Okay, but even if that's the case, is this the kind of thing that's going to keep you up at night?

benjipwns

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16910 on: October 26, 2017, 08:36:41 PM »
canada needs to have laws against ziggurat quotes

VomKriege

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16911 on: October 26, 2017, 08:37:08 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252808213&postcount=4734

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Even getting away from the disgusting stuff, EL has always been a cunt.
The guy banned people for disagreeing that he could beat Bruce Lee in a fight and threw a temper tantrum when someone made the official Pillars of Eternity thread before him.

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16912 on: October 26, 2017, 08:37:17 PM »
Hate speech laws are bad as well, but I'm not going to delve into that until you can realize compelled speech is terrible.

Compelled speech laws are 1000 fold worse than hate speech laws.

Aeptia

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16913 on: October 26, 2017, 08:37:56 PM »
Hate speech laws are bad as well, but I'm not going to delve into that until you can realize compelled speech is terrible.

I don't understand what that means, and I just looked it up

Assimilate

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16914 on: October 26, 2017, 08:38:20 PM »

There is a difference between reasonable restrictions on speech and compelled speech. Under the Canadian law simply refusing to use a preferred pronoun even if you instead use something neutral is against the law. The government requiring you to express certain things is entirely unconstitutional in the US and it is a shame that it is not in Canada. They had a chance to remove the compelled speech aspect of the law through amendment, but declined.
thank you, i was going to put this doofus on blast but you did it for me. this new canadian law is so fucking ridiculous it's nothing like free speech in the u.s. what an absurdity to even compare the two.

it's going to be interesting seeing how this goes over. most canadians are so chill that i'm sure it won't be a big problem at first, but soon as someone goes to jail over it oh boy.

remist

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16915 on: October 26, 2017, 08:39:17 PM »
Okay, but even if that's the case, is this the kind of thing that's going to keep you up at night?
Absolutely, compelled speech is the worst kind of road to be going down.

Oblivion

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16916 on: October 26, 2017, 08:40:38 PM »

There is a difference between reasonable restrictions on speech and compelled speech. Under the Canadian law simply refusing to use a preferred pronoun even if you instead use something neutral is against the law. The government requiring you to express certain things is entirely unconstitutional in the US and it is a shame that it is not in Canada. They had a chance to remove the compelled speech aspect of the law through amendment, but declined.
thank you, i was going to put this doofus on blast but you did it for me. this new canadian law is so fucking ridiculous it's nothing like free speech in the u.s. what an absurdity to even compare the two.

it's going to be interesting seeing how this goes over. most canadians are so chill that i'm sure it won't be a big problem at first, but soon as someone goes to jail over it oh boy.

You weren't making a philosophical argument on whether compelled speech is good or bad, you were making an asinine claim that blanket misgendering would land someone in jail, you disingenuous goober.

etiolate

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16917 on: October 26, 2017, 08:41:26 PM »
Hate speech laws are bad as well, but I'm not going to delve into that until you can realize compelled speech is terrible.

I don't understand what that means, and I just looked it up

Well a hate speech law says you can't say certain things. In Canada, that's denying the holocaust.

A compelled speech law says you have to say certain things when discussing a thing, and in the Canada law, say things according to another person's demand.

I think it's Saudi or Yemen where when referencing the Prince that you must then say this list of descriptions of him. So regular speech is "the Prince" and the compelled speech law is "the Prince, his most maginificent and wonderful" or else its a violation of the law with punishments.

landaulifshitz

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16918 on: October 26, 2017, 08:41:53 PM »
I see that everyone's been watching their fair share of Jordan Peterson videos.

remist

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Re: Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...
« Reply #16919 on: October 26, 2017, 08:44:39 PM »
I see that everyone's been watching their fair share of Jordan Peterson videos.
I mean Peterson is a loon on some subjects, but a broken clock....