Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[wsippel]

That's not being optimistic. That's making excuses and missing the entire point of why GAF descended into a pile of dog shit.

These types of people don't understand that the world isn't safe, there's no where in this world where you'll be 100% safe. Ever. These are people that never fucking grew up and they think they're still in momies house in their snuggly rooms playing on the puter.

Your're not wrong. But even I wasted a few moments thinking things could get better, for legitimately no reason at all. Probably because I just wanted to believe things could be better. I knew it was futile, but I'm an optimist at heart. I think the vast majority of humans isn't completely stupid. Talk to them 1-on-1, and and you can probably reach an understanding with almost everybody (but it'll probably backfire, eventually). And the Bore clearly demonstrates that this can work, to a certain extent, even on a larger forum on the internet. So maybe it could have worked for Resetti. It apparently didn't, but I'm not going to blame folks for being hopeful.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-post-your-picture-thread.1715/page-6#post-270270

Those commentaries

 

[wsippel]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-post-your-picture-thread.1715/page-6#post-270270

Those commentaries

(Image removed from quote.)

 

Is this a gay porno?

[Himu]

I mean, I'm not going to judge. I haven't seen the trailer as I haven't played TLOU (I know, right?) but I've had similar thoughts on many recent game trailers, particularly DOOM's. Just not a big fan of the video game glorification of gore and I think that opinion is worth having. Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean people are stupid, not genuine, or falling to outrage. I'm not a big fan of it and it's a big reason I haven't played MK9 or X beyond the fact they're made by the shitty developer NRS.

I'm just very squeamish with gore these days. Sorry.

Someone hold me.  :'(

[Cerveza mas fina]

must be the hormones

[wsippel]

I mean, I'm not going to judge. I haven't seen the trailer as I haven't played TLOU (I know, right?) but I've had similar thoughts on many recent game trailers, particularly DOOM's. Just not a big fan of the video game glorification of gore and I think that opinion is worth having. Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean people are stupid, ingenuine, or falling to outrage. I'm not a big fan of it and it's a big reason I haven't played MK9 or X beyond the fact they're made by the shitty developer NRS.

I'm totally cool with it in Doom. Amazing games, and the over-the-top violence is just part of their identity. It always felt shitty and exploitative in Mortal Kombat, though, and I think it got worse as the technology improved. It used to be just a subpar fighter with campy and dumb gimmicks, now it's still a subpar fighter with legitimately gross gimmicks.

[Himu]

must be the hormones

Don't know if you're trolling because last time we talked. 

I mean, I'm not going to judge. I haven't seen the trailer as I haven't played TLOU (I know, right?) but I've had similar thoughts on many recent game trailers, particularly DOOM's. Just not a big fan of the video game glorification of gore and I think that opinion is worth having. Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean people are stupid, ingenuine, or falling to outrage. I'm not a big fan of it and it's a big reason I haven't played MK9 or X beyond the fact they're made by the shitty developer NRS.

I'm totally cool with it in Doom. Amazing games, and the over-the-top violence is just part of their identity. It always felt shitty and exploitative in Mortal Kombat, though, and I think it got worse as the technology improved. It used to be just a subpar fighter with campy and dumb gimmicks, now it's still a subpar fighter with legitimately gross gimmicks.

MK really disgusts me now and I liked it a lot as a kid. I want to try it as sometimes I'm nostalgic for MK but then I watch a vid and want to scream and cry.

[dridru]

I don't think the way that The Last of Us Part II was shown off today does the game any favors, nor does it really do the medium any favors if we're interested in making video games a more welcoming environment where everyone can feel safe and welcome.

people like this actually exist.

Please cancel all violent movies and someone get rid of that damn rap music!

Since when is having options bad for a medium. If you don't like these type of games, there are literally a hundred others coming out that month you can pick from.

[Assimilate]

I don't think the way that The Last of Us Part II was shown off today does the game any favors, nor does it really do the medium any favors if we're interested in making video games a more welcoming environment where everyone can feel safe and welcome.

people like this actually exist.

Please cancel all violent movies and someone get rid of that damn rap music!

Since when is having options bad for a medium. If you don't like these type of games, there are literally a hundred others coming out that month you can pick from.

Yeah i don't understand. It's like walking into a Tarantino movie and being upset about all the over the top violence or maybe even the long winded expositions.

WTF is wrong with people? Is the Japanese Kawaii culture getting to their fucking heads?

[demi]

The trailer was basically Walking Dead with mushrooms.

what mushrooms. they showed zero monsters, but i guess this is yet another neil druckmann game where we are in fact the monsters

[Himu]

It's called getting older.

[K]

Elf has now more shadow mods than active users on his site. Also what's up with their names? Does he think he's the head of FBI?

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[Cerveza mas fina]

must be the hormones

Don't know if you're trolling because last time we talked. 

I think there could be something to it

For me there is a big difference in lets say gore porn like Saw and The Last of Us

Like i find Saw upsetting, but stuff like Doom is fine as are Tarantino movies etc

[Raist]

The trailer was basically Walking Dead with mushrooms.

what mushrooms. they showed zero monsters, but i guess this is yet another neil druckmann game where we are in fact the monsters

Very last second of the trailer.

[Assimilate]

It's called getting older.

Making a post like that has nothing to do with getting older. Getting older is more like "ok i'm not in the mood for another bombastic action packed silly fast n furious movie". Getting older means you've seen it all, and if it's not something new and exciting it won't do it for you. You want more substance. That's getting older.

Complaining about the violence in a trailer and dropping all kinds of bullshit about how it should be "safe and welcoming" that's oldGaf fucktardness.

[demi]

The trailer was basically Walking Dead with mushrooms.

what mushrooms. they showed zero monsters, but i guess this is yet another neil druckmann game where we are in fact the monsters

Very last second of the trailer.

lol, you know what i mean man.

"these humans torturing each other such monsters"

"oh by the way actual monsters, buy the last of us"

[samir]

complaining about violence in vidya games.........

[Himu]

It's called getting older.

Making a post like that has nothing to do with getting older. Getting older is more like "ok i'm not in the mood for another bombastic action packed silly fast n furious movie". Getting older means you've seen it all, and if it's not something new and exciting it won't do it for you. You want more substance. That's getting older.

Complaining about the violence in a trailer and dropping all kinds of bullshit about how it should be "safe and welcoming" that's oldGaf fucktardness.

I don't like the gore but I don't have a problem with them existing, but don't get triggered when people don't like that kind of stuff either.

[wsippel]

MK really disgusts me now and I liked it a lot as a kid. I want to try it as sometimes I'm nostalgic for MK but then I watch a vid and want to scream and cry.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought MK was super awesome as a kid, but it just disgusts me these days. And when I gave the old games a spin in MAME a year or two ago, I finally realized that the games have always been garbage. They really have nothing going for them outside of gratuitous, completely pointless and nonsensical gore in what are essentially glorified cutscenes.

Also, you seem kinda depressed, and that makes me sad. Don't think I've seen you like that ever since I joined.

[Optimus]

I mean, I'm not going to judge. I haven't seen the trailer as I haven't played TLOU (I know, right?) but I've had similar thoughts on many recent game trailers, particularly DOOM's. Just not a big fan of the video game glorification of gore and I think that opinion is worth having. Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean people are stupid, not genuine, or falling to outrage. I'm not a big fan of it and it's a big reason I haven't played MK9 or X beyond the fact they're made by the shitty developer NRS.

I'm just very squeamish with gore these days. Sorry.

Someone hold me.  :'(

How dare you, do not speak ill of DOOM.

Like TLOU, Doom's violence has a point, it's completely different than TLoU's but it definitely has one, it's to be comically exaggerated. The game despite its violence and nightmarish world isn't even horror, it's not scary, the demons are scared of you not the opposite.

My point is there's nothing wrong with excessive violence or sex when it serves a point, when it makes a good game, movie and so on. The distinguished mentally-challenged fellow calling this toxic like all moral crusaders has a very superficial understanding of how art and entertainment works.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Big dif between finding MK2 pixelart disgusting and MKX disturbing

[Himu]

MK really disgusts me now and I liked it a lot as a kid. I want to try it as sometimes I'm nostalgic for MK but then I watch a vid and want to scream and cry.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought MK was super awesome as a kid, but it just disgusts me these days. And when I gave the old games a spin in MAME a year or two ago, I finally realized that the games have always been garbage. They really have nothing going for them outside of gratuitous, completely pointless and nonsensical gore in what are essentially glorified cutscenes.

Also, you seem kinda depressed, and that makes me sad. Don't think I've seen you like that ever since I joined.

I'm not depressed rn. Thank you though.

Yes, I played MK2 at an arcade machine a few years back when I picked up my arcade stick and was confused as to why I liked them as a kid.

[Raist]

Elf has now more shadow mods than active users on his site. Also what's up with their names? Does he think he's the head of FBI?

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[Himu]

200k users, 500 now post.

[Boredfrom]

"low tier Destiny streamer defends Kevin Spacey abusing minors, let's bitch about it even if nobody knows who the fucker is"

Yep, Gaf 2.0

[wsippel]

I'm not depressed rn. Thank you though.

Yes, I played MK2 at an arcade machine a few years back when I picked up my arcade stick and was confused as to why I liked them as a kid.

Always hard to tell on the internet. You see a bunch of sad smileys, you assume the author is sad. Glad to hear that isn't the case, though!

And yeah, that was exactly my experience. I mean, I've never visited a real arcade until I was 18, because there are basically none in Germany (and the few that exist are 18+), but a friend gave me a pirated copy of MK way back in the day, and I played it a lot and had fond memories. So, when I set up MAME once again a while back, I remembered loving MK back in the day, so I gave it a shot. God, it sucks so bad. As a fighter, I'd almost argue that weird Psykio game from way back when was better. "The Fallen Angels"? Certainly looked better, at least...

[Interficium]

TLOU violence thread is already at 16 pages, that's the familiar GAF I know.

A fun game is to take a drink anyone invokes "the industry" in these threads.

"low tier Destiny streamer defends Kevin Spacey abusing minors, let's bitch about it even if nobody knows who the fucker is"

Yep, Gaf 2.0

ReceiptsEra

[Assimilate]

"low tier Destiny streamer defends Kevin Spacey abusing minors, let's bitch about it even if nobody knows who the fucker is"

Yep, Gaf 2.0

You want to really trigger them? Talk about how that troll Milo has been talking about the gay community and the 'young boys' problem for years now.

[Raist]

A fun game is to take a drink anyone invokes "the industry" in these threads.

Alcohol-induced coma doesn't sound particularly fun.

[Assimilate]

A fun game is to take a drink anyone invokes "the industry" in these threads.

Alcohol-induced coma doesn't sound particularly fun.

Still more fun than any TLOU game.

  Only the fanbase responsible for keeping crappy franchises like Killzone alive could hype up these walking simulators to such overrated heights.

[Assimilate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-accused-of-being-a-trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist-terf.2655/

holy mother of... we're in full blown GAF 2.0 people

I am, quite frankly, disappointed that some women are using this opportunity to lump trans women into the evils caused by cishet men. It only serves to perpetuate the notion that transpeople are sexual deviants and disgusting miscreants.

[Interficium]

A fun game is to take a drink anyone invokes "the industry" in these threads.

Alcohol-induced coma doesn't sound particularly fun.

Still more fun than any TLOU game.

  Only the fanbase responsible for keeping crappy franchises like Killzone alive could hype up these walking simulators to such overrated heights.

>dev makes the kind of "meaty" AAA offline singleplayer linear story-driven game that gaf/era overwhelmingly prefers.
>game sells a couple million units but not enough to recoup it's budget
>gaf/era: "They didn't market it well enough/the marketing budget was too small, they're idiots!"
>dev goes out of business because the AAA offline singleplayer linear story-driven games they make are too expensive too make in 2017 relative to their sales.
>gaf/era: "Well if they hadn't spent all their budget on shitty marketing they might have actually made money, they're idiots!"

[Vertigo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-accused-of-being-a-trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist-terf.2655/

holy mother of... we're in full blown GAF 2.0 people

I am, quite frankly, disappointed that some women are using this opportunity to lump trans women into the evils caused by cishet men. It only serves to perpetuate the notion that transpeople are sexual deviants and disgusting miscreants.

Tried to post that earlier. But yeah not even a week and we're back in business.

[Novid]

It took all of four days for some 45 year old dude to notice there are no explicit rules against begging/crowdfunding threads.

Yeah I was just looking at that thread.

Amir0x out on parole? 

WTF man. GOD DAMN IT.

[Pills Here]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-accused-of-being-a-trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist-terf.2655/

holy mother of... we're in full blown GAF 2.0 people

I am, quite frankly, disappointed that some women are using this opportunity to lump trans women into the evils caused by cishet men. It only serves to perpetuate the notion that transpeople are sexual deviants and disgusting miscreants.

Beginning to think the gaming side should've stayed on GAF... 

[jorma]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-accused-of-being-a-trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist-terf.2655/

holy mother of... we're in full blown GAF 2.0 people

I am, quite frankly, disappointed that some women are using this opportunity to lump trans women into the evils caused by cishet men. It only serves to perpetuate the notion that transpeople are sexual deviants and disgusting miscreants.

What an amazing sentence. Absolutely fabulous.
Also they told me in that old comic strip that these were straw-feminists who didn't actually exist. What's up with that, Jerry?

[Assimilate]

They want to take down J.K Rowlings now lol. It will never end.


I propose:

1. Cindi come back here for a public apology for suggesting this thread was no longer needed

2. This thread title should be changed to reflect the current situation of ResetGaf

[Aeptia]

I hate to say it, but I have a feeling that NeoGAF might actually win. All it takes is REEEE to have a hilariously big scandal and the users will flock back to GAF.

Let's hope EviLore does something stupid beforehand.

[remist]

Is anyone getting banned in these threads you guys are complaining about? Cause the delusional userbase doesn't bother me unless people are getting banned for wrongthink.

[Assimilate]

Is anyone getting banned in these threads you guys are complaining about? Cause the delusional userbase doesn't bother me unless people are getting banned for wrongthink.

Remember we're in the beginning stages here. No one is fed up yet and more than enough people know that they'll need to tiptoe any type of counter culture opinion.

Give it time, the bans will come. 

[remist]

Is anyone getting banned in these threads you guys are complaining about? Cause the delusional userbase doesn't bother me unless people are getting banned for wrongthink.

Remember we're in the beginning stages here. No one is fed up yet and more than enough people know that they'll need to tiptoe any type of counter culture opinion.

Give it time, the bans will come.

Probably right but im willing to wait for the moderation to actually lose it before a declaring the situation neogaf 2.0.

[CurseoftheGods]

why do you guys want resetera to fail so much

[Purple Filth]

I hate to say it, but I have a feeling that NeoGAF might actually win. All it takes is REEEE to have a hilariously big scandal and the users will flock back to GAF.

Let's hope EviLore does something stupid beforehand.

this is as bad as the posts declaring "victory" already.

[Aeptia]

why do you guys want resetera to fail so much

The only place I'd like to have fail is GAF. REEE is basically GAF though, which is shame because that means it must fail too.

[Steve Contra]

I honestly don't see how any games forum of any size, especially one with an off topic forum, could survive without heavy handed moderation and some kind of ideological consistency. People are acting like GAF at the end was still GAF in 2006 with worse moderation.

[Assimilate]

why do you guys want resetera to fail so much

GAF turned into such a toxic place that continuously had a hand in getting otherwise decent hard working people in the gaming industry fired, blacklisted or shamed out of their careers.

It was an overall shitstain of an echochamber that did no good for anybody. ResetGAF seems to be no different. It's the same fucking people. We're already witnessing the same crazy as fuck posts we were seeing on GAF recently. For that reason it should not survive. It would have been better off for everyone if the collective all dissipated.

(Someone is currently in real time trying to stir up controversy to ruin J.K Rowlings of all people. You think a place like this should exist?)

[kingv]

>dev makes the kind of "meaty" AAA offline singleplayer linear story-driven game that gaf/era overwhelmingly prefers.
>game sells a couple million units but not enough to recoup it's budget
>gaf/era: "They didn't market it well enough/the marketing budget was too small, they're idiots!"
>dev goes out of business because the AAA offline singleplayer linear story-driven games they make are too expensive too make in 2017 relative to their slaes.
>gaf/era: "Well if they hadn't spent all their budget on shitty marketing they might have actually made money, they're idiots!"

LOL, yeah the focus on complaining about marketing always cracks me up.  Especialy since it's often based purely on anectodtes;  "Well I never personally saw any advertising."

Goes along with the conspiracy theory that Bethesda for some reaosn pays to produce games and the purpsoefully under-markets them.. which makes no sense.  And in fact they've said this about games I saw television advertising for during prime time shows, which probably less than .01% of games get. 

"The do that so they don't have to pay the developers bonuses"... uhhh.. they offer the bonuses because the games would make them more money.. what company would purposefully make less money on things they funded to avoid paying bonuses?

Also Bethesda keeps making the games. It’s not really clear they underperform for them. Maybe they have found a solution they are happy with. It would not surprise me to find out that dishonored 2 and Wolfenstein II are cheaper than a shadow of war or ME:Andromeda.

Maybe “make game for $40 mil, sell .5 mil full price, get hype, have a long tail at $29 and then release a meaty standlone dlc for $30” has been profitable for them.

[Boredfrom]

why do you guys want resetera to fail so much

I would prefer it was not Gaf 2.0 than the site failing.

[Pepinappe]

I wonder if these people who reeeee at the violence in that TLOU2 trailer were also reeee-ing back with the original RE.

Or maybe they weren't born yet then. 

[wsippel]

why do you guys want resetera to fail so much

I just like watching little kids and manchildren cry, ok?

But yeah, ultimately, I don't even care anymore. It's a containment field for the crazies, without the hybris of GAF. Folks won't even hate them, because they were never important and never had a chance to disappoint anybody. They started irrelevant and will continue to be irrelevant, while GAF continues its downward spiral. It's a young dinosaur laughing at an old, senile, dying dinosaur, not realizing his existance is just as pointless.

[Owl-faced Wizard]

"low tier Destiny streamer defends Kevin Spacey abusing minors, let's bitch about it even if nobody knows who the fucker is"

Yep, Gaf 2.0

You want to really trigger them? Talk about how that troll Milo has been talking about the gay community and the 'young boys' problem for years now.

? Milo has defended dudes who want to fuck young teens.

[Pills Here]

I wonder if these people who reeeee at the violence in that TLOU2 trailer were also reeee-ing back with the original RE.

Or maybe they weren't born yet then. 

Probably weren't. It's quite apparent from GAF/ERA behaviour that many of the posters haven't experienced much of the outside world (or at least that's the impression I get from a lot of OT posters).

But the TLOU2 drama will be sorted out quickly; as on GAF, the resident Naughty Dog employee is doing damage control in the thread 

[Boredfrom]

"low tier Destiny streamer defends Kevin Spacey abusing minors, let's bitch about it even if nobody knows who the fucker is"

Yep, Gaf 2.0

You want to really trigger them? Talk about how that troll Milo has been talking about the gay community and the 'young boys' problem for years now.

Milo is such an expert on it. That book deal lost...

[Pills Here]

Milo is disgusting.

[Occam]

Elf has now more shadow mods than active users on his site. Also what's up with their names? Does he think he's the head of FBI?

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No, that special club with agents who hide the fact that they are members and don't reveal their names is called Gestapo.
Welcome to NeuGAF!

[Barry Egan]

(Someone is currently in real time trying to stir up controversy to ruin J.K Rowlings of all people. You think a place like this should exist?)

lol calm down.

[Pills Here]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/our-very-own-gif-wizard-sunhilegend-made-the-paris-trailer-for-hzd-fw.2625/

Incestuous as always 

[paprikastaude]

TLOU violence thread is already at 16 pages, that's the familiar GAF I know.

we back, fam

I don't know why people act as if anything ever changed. First proper visit I had on the site recently was me searching for impressions on the South Park game. Turned out that the only topic  on the title was outrage related with a bunch of oversensitive weird bans in it.

[Baiano19]

must be the hormones

Don't know if you're trolling because last time we talked. 

I mean, I'm not going to judge. I haven't seen the trailer as I haven't played TLOU (I know, right?) but I've had similar thoughts on many recent game trailers, particularly DOOM's. Just not a big fan of the video game glorification of gore and I think that opinion is worth having. Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean people are stupid, ingenuine, or falling to outrage. I'm not a big fan of it and it's a big reason I haven't played MK9 or X beyond the fact they're made by the shitty developer NRS.

I'm totally cool with it in Doom. Amazing games, and the over-the-top violence is just part of their identity. It always felt shitty and exploitative in Mortal Kombat, though, and I think it got worse as the technology improved. It used to be just a subpar fighter with campy and dumb gimmicks, now it's still a subpar fighter with legitimately gross gimmicks.

MK really disgusts me now and I liked it a lot as a kid. I want to try it as sometimes I'm nostalgic for MK but then I watch a vid and want to scream and cry.

The graphics are too realistic. Before it was basically a cartoon or too over the top.

That LoU scene in the trailer surprised me, and not in a good way.

[Broseidon]

videogame violence