October 2017 Scary Movie Watching Thread | Say hi to mommy...in hell!

[Tasty]

I probably have to rewatch it but I didn't find House of the Devil all that compelling. I remember it being very good™. If I make it far enough, it'd be a huge achievement to make a horror movie that's as good as it, but as a viewer it didn't grab me.

Innkeepers was a step down but still good. Goes full stupid in the last 15 mins though.

The Sacrament had some great tension, but how do you make a horror movie that's less horrific than the real life events? Jonestown was fricking NYC compared to the camp in that one.

Anyways these are just my opinions of course. Also I wasn't talking mainstream popularity, but popularity like, here, where people know who Ti West is. I see him brought up as frequently as Adam Wingard in horror discussions here so that's what I was addressing.

[toku]

http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/horror-movies-are-now-officially-preferable-to-real-life.html

[Mupepe]

Mike Flanagan is another with great potential except he hasn't let me down.

[Tasty]

Mike Flanagan is another with great potential except he hasn't let me down.

Hmm you may be right. Though none of his movies are really that standout except Gerald's Game (which falls off the rails at the end.) Never saw Oculus but Hush and Ouija Origin were really pleasant surprises for me.

[Bebpo]

Mike Flanagan is another with great potential except he hasn't let me down.

Love Absentia.

[Tasty]

28. Cub (also known as "Welp")

This Dutch film is sort of a cross between Friday the 13th and the real life Cub Scouts. Unfortunately, as trailers and online commenters do, this one was overhyped. It never gets particularly tense or scary outside the first 15 minutes or so, and wastes a somewhat neat if tried concept with the feral boy.

It also pulled the cardinal sin of the "twist" ending making no goddamn sense and nothing really being explained. If the movie had set up the twist earlier, or if they had played it less on the nose, or even if the rest of the movie had been more "vague," maybe it wouldn't have landed with such a thud for me.

2 / 5


29. The Midnight Meat Train

This movie was so fucking "2000s" that I was fucking gobsmacked when I saw it was made in 2008. As the movie went on I knew I was watching that particularly special brand of stupid movie, and got pretty excited at how off the rails it could possibly go.

And wheeeeeewwww boy, does it ever get stupid. For most other movies that'd bump up the score I give it by one, but almost everything else in this movie drags it back down.

1 / 5


30. Rosemary's Baby

Holy cow, this was David Lynch before David Lynch! Despite being over two hours long, not a single scene is wasted, and it's paced impeccably - each reveal or or character interaction is exactly where it needs to be in the overall narrative structure. The actors, particularly Mia Farrow and the elderly couple, absolutely sell the movie, with the latter in particular providing some needed levity that makes the darker elements stand out as all the more twisted.

And man, that final scene.

The talk earlier in this thread pushed me over the edge and I'm glad it did. This movie rules.

5 / 5


31. Trick 'r Treat (rewatch)

This and The Blair Witch Project are always my October staples, for good reason. Blair Witch gets things off on the right foot with unsettling atmosphere and grounded human drama, while Trick 'r Treat rounds out the month with a massive injection of Halloween spirit. Not much to say for this other than between this and Krampus, Mike Dougherty is the fucking man.

5 / 5


And with that, we done here boys.

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I've already bookmarks five new horror flicks to watch when I get the itch and/or might go on my list next year.

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[Tasty]

My full list and accompanying scores! (With links to the full reviews.)

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• A Dark Song - 5 / 5
• Lake Mungo - 2 / 5
• Triangle (2009) - 4 / 5
• The Taking of Deborah Logan - 3 / 5
• Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 - 2 / 5
• A Cure for Wellness - 2 / 5
• The Blair Witch Project (rewatch) - 5 / 5
• Poultrygeist: Night of the Chicken Dead - 3 / 5
• An American Werewolf in London - 2 / 5
• American Psycho - 4 / 5
• The Hallow - 4 / 5
• The Autopsy of Jane Doe - 5 / 5
• Pandorum - 2 / 5
• Hush (2016) - 3 / 5
• The Vanishing (1988) - 4 / 5
• Fracture - 2 / 5
• Hidden (2015) - 3 / 5
• Playback - 1 / 5
• Visions (2015) - 2 / 5
• Martyrs (2008) - 4 / 5
• Phantasm - 3 / 5
• They Live - 4 / 5
• Sleepaway Camp - 3 / 5
• Sleepy Hollow - 2 / 5
• Gerald's Game - 4 / 5
• It Comes at Night - 4 / 5
• Halloween III: Season of the Witch - 3 / 5
• Cub - 2 / 5
• The Midnight Meat Train - 1 / 5
• Rosemary's Baby - 5 / 5
• Trick 'r Treat (rewatch) - 5 / 5

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5 / 5

• A Dark Song
• The Blair Witch Project (rewatch)
• The Autopsy of Jane Doe
• Rosemary's Baby
• Trick 'r Treat (rewatch)

4 / 5

• Triangle (2009)
• American Psycho
• The Hallow
• The Vanishing (1988)
• Martyrs (2008)
• They Live
• Gerald's Game
• It Comes at Night

3 / 5

• The Taking of Deborah Logan
• Poultrygeist: Night of the Chicken Dead
• Hush (2016)
• Hidden (2015)
• Phantasm
• Sleepaway Camp
• Halloween III: Season of the Witch

2 / 5

• Lake Mungo
• Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
• A Cure for Wellness
• An American Werewolf in London
• Pandorum
• Fracture
• Visions (2015)
• Sleepy Hollow
• Cub

1 / 5

• Playback
• The Midnight Meat Train

[Mupepe]

Mike Flanagan is another with great potential except he hasn't let me down.

Hmm you may be right. Though none of his movies are really that standout except Gerald's Game (which falls off the rails at the end.) Never saw Oculus but Hush and Ouija Origin were really pleasant surprises for me.

Oh you need to fix that.  Oculus is his stand out IMO. 

[Joe Molotov]

#30
It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown (1966)


#31
The 'Burbs (1989)

Theoretically, how big of a sex pervert would Tom Hanks have to be to no longer be beloved? Like, if he felt up a 16 y/o at a party, people would be like "Wow, not cool Tom Hanks" but we'd all let it slide.  It'd have to be at least Cosby levels, right, if not more? I'm trying to decide whether him being white would give him more of the benefit or less of the benefit of a doubt, considering today's political climate, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out.

[Joe Molotov]

Also, Meat wtf @ giving Meat Train a 1 out of 5? Does your hate boner for Clive Barker know no bounds? I feel like you're just trying to make me mad at this point, but it won't work. You cannot break into my mind palace.

[Joe Molotov]

Watch List
1. The Blob (1988)
2. Death Spa (1987)
3. The Stuff (1985)
4. A Cure for Wellness (2017)
5. They Live (1988)
6. Vampyros Lesbos (1971)
7. Kill, Baby, Kill! (1966)
8. The Omen (1976)
9. Videodrome (1983)
10. Abattoir (2016)
11. Piranha (1978)
12. Daughters of Darkness (1970)
13. Happy Death Day (2017)
14. The Babysitter (2017)
15. Friday the 13th Part 2 (1981)
16. Friday the 13th Part 3 (1982)
17. Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter (1984)
18. Friday the 13th Part V: A New Beginning (1985)
19. Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives (1986)
20. Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood (1988)
21. Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan (1989)
22. Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (1993)
23. Jason X (2001)
24. Freddy vs. Jason (2003)
25. Friday the 13th (2009)
26. Species (1995)
27. Train to Busan (2016)
28. A Dark Song (2016)
29. Gremlins (1984)
30. It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown (1966)
31. The 'Burbs (1989)

[Van Cruncheon]

i love lake mungo, but that's more of a personal preference thing.

[TVC15]

Watched Creepshow with good pals last night. I looked up Ted Danson’s age when he was in it, and he was a year younger than me I never got to look like Ted Danson Want to die Creepshow Ted Danson is forever younger than meeeeeee :sad

[Mupepe]

Oculus sucked, gtfo

You're a terrible person.

But I still love you.

[Tasty]

Meat Train was Clive Barker?

I honestly had no idea. No wonder that movie's trash.

[Bebpo]

Meat Train was Clive Barker?

I honestly had no idea. No wonder that movie's trash.

Not only Clive Barker

but also directed by Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes's cutscene director, Ryuhei Kitamura in his first US film debut!

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Actually Kitamura was originally pretty awesome with Versus and a couple other cool JP flicks, but MMM marked the beginning of the end of his career.

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Oculus sucked, gtfo

Absentia > Oculus > Hush > Gerald's Game (I still need to see Ouija 2).

For Flannagan I prefer his supernatural/creature stuff over realism horror of Hush/Gerald.

[TVC15]

Meat Train was Clive Barker?

I honestly had no idea. No wonder that movie's trash.

smh. It’s not bad. A little over-directed. It fits in nicely with the other urban horror stories of his that have been adapted. The visuals for the creatures in the ending weren’t great to me. It was a nice treat.

Hellraiser = Candyman > Midnight Meat Train > Nightbreed

[Bebpo]

Meat Train was Clive Barker?

I honestly had no idea. No wonder that movie's trash.

smh. It’s not bad. A little over-directed. It fits in nicely with the other urban horror stories of his that have been adapted. The visuals for the creatures in the ending weren’t great to me. It was a nice treat.

Hellraiser = Candyman > Midnight Meat Train > Nightbreed

I think MMM was pretty bad, even as a Barker & at the time Kitamura fan. Never seen Nightbreed, but yeah Hellraiser & Candyman are great.

[TVC15]

Meat Train was Clive Barker?

I honestly had no idea. No wonder that movie's trash.

smh. It’s not bad. A little over-directed. It fits in nicely with the other urban horror stories of his that have been adapted. The visuals for the creatures in the ending weren’t great to me. It was a nice treat.

Hellraiser = Candyman > Midnight Meat Train > Nightbreed

I think MMM was pretty bad, even as a Barker & at the time Kitamura fan. Never seen Nightbreed, but yeah Hellraiser & Candyman are great.

The biggest faux pas in MMT for me is the modernization of the setting. It should’ve been grittier like the 80s New York of the original.

Nightbreed is a mess, even in the director’s cut. There’s a lot to like, but it just doesn’t quite come together. Still, it has David Cronenberg, so it’s awesome. It’s a must if you like fancy ass monster costumes and makeup. It’s porn for that.

[Mupepe]

You guys should watch Blood Rage.

aka menstrual cycle

[Joe Molotov]

He just looks like Robert Downey Jr. on a bender in the last pic.

[Tasty]

Joe what are your thoughts on Clive Barker's Jericho™ (by Clive Barker®)?

[Joe Molotov]

I've never played it, but IIRC Prole liked it and said that it had  giant demon cocks in it.

Clive Barker's Undying though is a minor masterpiece.

[Bebpo]

Oh man, I remember that crappy game.

It's a shame all the horror games based on horror short stories/novels turn out bad. Especially because there are lots of good horror games and good horror novels. Just doesn't seem to cross over well. I know there's another Call of Cthulhu game coming out or something but not expecting much. I have no mouth and I must Scream is probably the only good one.

[Tasty]

Meat Train was Clive Barker?

I honestly had no idea. No wonder that movie's trash.

smh. It’s not bad. A little over-directed. It fits in nicely with the other urban horror stories of his that have been adapted. The visuals for the creatures in the ending weren’t great to me. It was a nice treat.

Hellraiser = Candyman > Midnight Meat Train > Nightbreed

*tokes*

"So like there's this vegan photographer-"

"Uh, OK"

*tokes*

"And like, there's this subway train, that like... kills people"

"Umm..."

*tokes*

"But it's not the TRAIN, it's a guy IN the train. And he wears this suit and he has no tongue. Cause if he did he would talk about his killings-"

"Couldn't he just, like, write them down-"

*tokes*

"But he's killing people to feed these creatures we'll shittily knockoff from The Descent..."

"Why don't we make uhh, something original?"

*tokes*

"And if he doesn't feed them they'll like, escape and wreck the world or some shit. But we'll only ever show like two of them in the whole movie."

"Couldn't the Army easily take care of some backwards creatures from the stone age-"

*tokes*

"ANYWAYS, the photographer, like, he's vegan right? And the whole schtick is feeding human meat to these monsters-"

"Why human meat? Why not breed, like, cows?"

*tokes*

"So as the movie progresses, like, this vegan photographer starts craving meat more and more."

"That's not a bad idea, actually. Does that lead anywhere?"

*tokes*

"Fuck no."

"Oh. Wait, these sound like two almost completely separate movies."

*tokes*

"That's the genius of it! The photographer is dared by some art critic chick to get more 'dangerous' photos, putting him closer and closer to the murdering-butcher-plus-train-and-demons plot!"

"Uhh, I think I should go-"

*tokes*

*inadvertently hotboxes the movie exec*

*movie is made and bombs, making back just 23% of its production budget (not including marketing)*

*clive barker kills himself*

*the world rejoices*

[TVC15]

Most of that isn’t from the original story, and Clive didn’t write the movie. I don’t think much (possibly any) of that is objectionable in a horror flick either.

[Tasty]

I'm talking purely about the movie.

And the movie is utter dogshit. I think Fear dot Com was less objectionable at times.

[TVC15]

I think Fear dot Com was less objectionable at times.

Dude. This doesn’t even deserve a : six:

[Tasty]

Fear dot Com had a far less stupid ending, which is saying a lot. It also had some weird/inventive direction. The direction on MMT is just bargain-basement early-2000s schlock, which might be forgivable if it was from the early 2000s. But nope. Reminds me a lot of Stay Alive, except Stay Alive at least came out two years earlier. And was also less stupid.

[TVC15]

Stay Alive? You’re trolling has gone too over the top. You need some thorazine and a nap, duder. Sleep it off.

[Bebpo]

I know earlier in the thread there was some talk on how Jason X isn't a real Jason film and feels like an Alien-wannabe, but what's the difference? I've seen all of the Jason movies (including X) and I thought X was ok so-bad-it's-ok, but it was basically invincible monsters Jason goes around kill people on a ship and can't be stopped until the end where they try to stop him. How is that different than the other Jason movies? I haven't seen any of the older ones since like the 90s and probably saw X a decade ago or more.

[Bebpo]

Oh, so taking it away from the lake is a big deal because it’s a big part of the mythos? Was the lake in all the other movies? I thought only a couple.

[ToxicAdam]

They actually try to jam 'the lake' in there through a VR game. (Which somehow Jason could still kill you in?!)

All I need to show you is this one scene and it will spell out to you why this movie is a disaster.




Tonally it's a mess. They tried to make it funny, gory and campy but completely missed.

[Bebpo]

They actually try to jam 'the lake' in there through a VR game. (Which somehow Jason could still kill you in?!)

All I need to show you is this one scene and it will spell out to you why this movie is a disaster.




Tonally it's a mess. They tried to make it funny, gory and campy but completely missed.

I'm gonna be the weirdo and say while that scene was very poorly directed & made, I can't hate on the space campy style.

The problem is that when you get past like 3 sequels in horror movies, there's not much new you can do so I appreciate stuff like Jason goes to Hell, Leprechaun in the Hood or even the terrible Freddy v Jason just because at least they're trying something different. Even if it fails it just becomes another bad sequel in the list of bad sequels and no one cares until 20 years later when there's a bore halloween thread that dissects Jason X.

[Great Rumbler]

the terrible Freddy v Jason

 

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FvJ

[Purrp Skirrp]

REC 2 sucked. Just a retread of the first while worse in every way. I'm not fucking with 3 or 4. REC still dope tho.

[Bebpo]

Rec 2 is the RE2 to Rec 1's REmake. Rec 3 is sorta RE3.

The series is pretty much the Spanish Resident Evil, especially at this point.
Nothing wrong with that either. I liked 1-3, haven't seen 4. Original is the best though, yeah.

[Tasty]

Nah. AvP is a stain because both Predator and Alien/Aliens were great movies, art even.

Nightmare and F13 were always pretty trashy overall, and FvJ is a fun sendup that still shows it actually does care (a little) about each series' legacy. I haven't seen a better "versus" movie except maybe Godzilla vs. King Kong.

James Rolfe says it better than I can:

[Tasty]

Stro and I really see the F13 series completely differently, lol. Maybe it's an effect of growing up and seeing it when I was younger (and not all at once) versus critically marathoning the entire thing as an adult.

[TVC15]

I know I made a crack about horror movies having shitty endings, but man, A Dark Song’s ending really soiled what was a pretty good flick up until that point.

Also, FvJ... I liked it when I first saw it, but upon repeat viewings, it really takes a while to get going. There’s fun to be had, but it should start faster.

[chronovore]

Nah, his was called In a Valley of Violence. Still need to see Bone Tomahawk now that you mention it.

Seriously good movie. Not genius film stuff, just good suspense and action, with some witticisms and manly tears for good measure.

[Quaker]

...because I'm lazy AF...

21. Cube (Netflix)

Starts off kinda cringeworthy but once I got acclimated to the $2 1990s production the novelty of the concept kept me interested and I left pretty impressed with what they were able to do. It helps that it's less than 90 minutes.

22. Night of the Living Dead (Amazon)

Hadn't really seen the whole thing through from beginning to end before but I thought it really held up and the 1960s production and execution really helped keep it feeling pretty timeless and not schlocky at all.

23. What We Do in the Shadows (Amazon)

Hmm, it's really well done but even on rewatch and as a Flight of the Conchords fan I wasn't really able to go all in on this. More thinking "that's clever" or "that's funny" than actually laughing.

24. Sleepy Hollow (Netflix)

Quite liked this, largely because of the cinematography(Emmanuel Lubezki!) and production design, not so much because of the narrative or Johnny Depp.

25. The Blair Witch Project (HBO)

First time watching this. Very effective considering they basically made it out of nothing. Wish I could have been there to get caught up in the hype and meta of the movie when it was contemporary aside from the dumb runny nose spoofs.

26. Blair Witch (Amazon)

Hmm, didn't like this as much on rewatch but it wasn't bad. Some good body horror and jump scares. Biggest gripe is they don't really pay off the drone.

27. The Girl with All the Gifts (Amazon)

Really well done, little British zombie movie that operates somewhere between 28 Days Later or actually The Last of Us and something more Young Adult -y, but not toothless. Really liked the supporting cast too(Paddy Considine!).

28. Videodrome

Cronenberg

29. The Cabin in the Woods

Whedon's stuff always comes across as a little too precious/cute for it's own good, but this one's pretty fun once it gets going.

30. The Fog

Hadn't seen this one before, I think I've actually seen more distinction given to the theme song than the movie online in passing so I wasn't really expecting too much. The atmosphere and build up are sooooo good that it's a bummer that the pay off isn't really there. Still liked it quite a bit though.

31. The Exorcist

It's been a while since I'd seen it(usually I pick The Shining to rewatch instead) but I've seen The French Connection and The Conversation recently so I thought it'd be cool to revisit it to see if it personally held up. Yep, not only does it have fantastic characterization and atmosphere but it backs it up with strong traditional horror elements. I mean, JFC at the bloody crucifix scenes.