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[I'm a Puppy!]

Whataboutism is excusing your own faults by pointing out someone else's faults. Like when Democrats say "How can you support Roy Moore, he's a pedophile?" and Republicans say "Yeah, but what about Al Franken grabbing that woman's boobs?"

Ah, so it's deflection?
Why not just call it that?

Kids these days.

[EightBitNate]

Whataboutism is excusing your own faults by pointing out someone else's faults. Like when Democrats say "How can you support Roy Moore, he's a pedophile?" and Republicans say "Yeah, but what about Al Franken grabbing that woman's boobs?"

Well I mean, and I implore you not to misconstrue this as me being pro-Roy Moore, it actually is quite relevant that Al Franken also has a history of sexual misconduct. The controversy with Roy Moore is in large part a result of the two party system. The Democrats want to portray Republicans as having a sexual predator problem (which may or may not be true). It shows that the outrage may not be so earnest, and that it may have been blown out of proportion by the left since Al Franken isn't receiving as much pressure from them to step down as Roy Moore was.

I don't necessarily agree with this take, but I think it provides useful background information and changes the weight of each side's arguments. I think you should address the "whataboutism" rather than trying to silence it.

[Brehvolution]

Person 1, 4 years ago: Obama plays golf while the world burns.

Person 2 today: tump has already played more golf in his first year than Obama's 8.

Person 1 today: There we go with the whataboutisms.

It isn't about excusing your faults. It's all about:

[fistfulofmetal]

Ah, so it's deflection?
Why not just call it that?

Kids these days.

pretty sure the term is at least 25 years old and may even go back to Soviet-era Russia.

[counterhit]

uhh I dunno, Paul Joseph Watson is pretty far right dude

What makes him far right as opposed to just right? Seems like everyone and everything just gets called far right if they lean right.

[EightBitNate]

uhh I dunno, Paul Joseph Watson is pretty far right dude

What makes him far right as opposed to just right? Seems like everyone and everything just gets called far right if they lean right.

It's the mainstream meteor's fault

[nachobro]

Or that neogaf is owned by a serial sex pest and everyone is upset about it, but nobody talks about demi’s constant hounding for naked pic PMs from fat bore users while never once responding to nudemacusers PM submissions. 😪

yeah well what about amirox? checkmate.

[Joe Molotov]

Ah, so it's deflection?
Why not just call it that?

Kids these days.

pretty sure the term is at least 25 years old and may even go back to Soviet-era Russia.

USA: Russia has a terrible human-rights record.
Soviet Union: But you guys are lynching negros.

Is the Wikipedia definition of Whataboutism.

[Boredfrom]

Ah, so it's deflection?
Why not just call it that?

Kids these days.

pretty sure the term is at least 25 years old and may even go back to Soviet-era Russia.

USA: Russia has a terrible human-rights record.
Soviet Union: But you guys are lynching negros.

Is the Wikipedia definition of Whataboutism.

Lol


This kind of stuff is older than the U.S. Reminds me of Spain's Black Legend.

[fistfulofmetal]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

[VomKriege]

Ah, so it's deflection?
Why not just call it that?

Kids these days.

pretty sure the term is at least 25 years old and may even go back to Soviet-era Russia.

USA: Russia has a terrible human-rights record.
Soviet Union: But you guys are lynching negros.

Is the Wikipedia definition of Whataboutism.

And then too it was to be assumed it was in "bad faith". I'm not sure the notion of "whataboutism" is exactly as solid as its historical pedigree may suggest. Anyway it's applied with a broad brush on GafEra to the point that trying to put things in perspective or contrasting is shut down heavily. Which of course helps framing every issue as the WORST THING EVER and the usual histrionics.

"Deflecting" is the better notion. Clearer meaning.

[blaze]

didn't whataboutism rise from soviet propaganda in the cold war?


late as f. i was on the last page whoops

[Himu]

Example of whataboutism is most things involving Trump's PR.

Let's take the Charlotsville terrorist attack when that asshole ran over protesters.

The president is tasked with making a statement to condemn the white nationalists who did this violence and protested saying very un-American things.

His response: I think there is blame on both sides.

It's a way to deflect responsibility.

[Joe Molotov]

Example of whataboutism is most things involving Trump's PR.

Let's take the Charlotsville terrorist attack when that asshole ran over protesters.

The president is tasked with making a statement to condemn the white nationalists who did this violence and protested saying very un-American things.

His response: I think there is blame on both sides.

It's a way to deflect responsibility.

I blame George Lucas.

[Raist]

I'll admit, I don't really get what "whataboutism" is.  Is it just a form of reductio ad absurdum?

More like tu quoque. The soviets made it a national sport during the cold war.

[Assimilate]

I deployed whataboutism once when i got caught at a bar with another girl.

The other girl i was seeing that caught me brought a friend i knew had cheated many times on her bf, so i made it whatabout sussie? she's a whore!

Surprisingly, it worked. 

[I'm a Puppy!]

"Deflecting" is the better notion. Clearer meaning.

A deflection changes the subject entirely. A whataboutism just discredits an argument by suggesting the arguing person is being hypocritical.

Given this interpretation then, what's so bad about it? You can't be like "Don't call me out about being a hypocrite!" Seems a disingenuous way to get out of discussing short-comings.

It's one thing to be like, "Hey, you just stole that car!" and then get "Oh yeah? Well remember in 1998 you told my sister she was ugly?" But it's another to say "Yeah, you're driving a stolen car yourself."

[VomKriege]

"Deflecting" is the better notion. Clearer meaning.

A deflection changes the subject entirely. A whataboutism just discredits an argument by suggesting the arguing person is being hypocritical.

Given this interpretation then, what's so bad about it? You can't be like "Don't call me out about being a hypocrite!" Seems a disingenuous way to get out of discussing short-comings.

It's one thing to be like, "Hey, you just stole that car!" and then get "Oh yeah? Well remember in 1998 you told my sister she was ugly?" But it's another to say "Yeah, you're driving a stolen car yourself."

Well, the commies did it. Are you a commie ? Why do you hate freedom ?

[Himu]

It's fine to point out hypocrisy; but someone else's hypocrisy doesn't excuse someone or something from wrong.  That's the "bad" part of whataboutism, is that it's used to deflect or excuse yourself or whomever you are defending (well, it's not really a real defense, hence the problem.)

Fuck I hate that term.

It's a very useful term that gets misused by certain people. That's all.

[Himu]

It's a very useful term that gets misused by certain people. That's all.

I just dislike the actual term, not really it's meaning.. I can't help but read "whataboutism" in a sort of know-it-all term in my head lol.

Yeah, I don't like the actual name so I don't use it.

[Jansen]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

exactly my thought as well

[Himu]

WHY do sjws analyze EVERYTHING in the most ridiculous manner?

Some dude just quoted me and said that it was problematic to have women as survivor horror protagonists because you are vulnerable.

Social studies is apt far more than social justice.

Someone please shoot me.

[I'm a Puppy!]

WHY do Social Studies Warriors analyze EVERYTHING in the most ridiculous manner?

Some dude just quoted me and said that it was problematic to have women as survivor horror protagonists because you are vulnerable.

Social studies is apt far more than social justice.

Someone please shoot me.

Advocating violence against women

[EightBitNate]

Y’all see the mansplaining post yet?

[Jansen]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

[Jenkem]

WHY do Social Studies Warriors analyze EVERYTHING in the most ridiculous manner?

Some dude just quoted me and said that it was problematic to have women as survivor horror protagonists because you are vulnerable.

Social studies is apt far more than social justice.

Someone please shoot me.

Advocating violence against women

why does cindi have to be so transphobic?

[seagrams hotsauce]

uhh I dunno, Paul Joseph Watson is pretty far right dude

What makes him far right as opposed to just right? Seems like everyone and everything just gets called far right if they lean right.

Fair enough. He was 'far right' in like 2015, but it does seem like that extremist tone is just 'default right' these days

[nudemacusers]

Guys I’m just glad we’re finally off page (((88)))

[Broseidon]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

are you actually this much of a dumbass or are you taking the piss?

[Pepinappe]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1450493/

a couple posts below:

Please don't be a secret sex monster, please don't be a secret sex monster, please don't be a secret sex monster...

they know who Keith Olbermann is right?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-feel-like-zelda-botw-is-one-of-the-best-games-they-have-ever-played.7200/

I rolled my eyes when I saw this thread. Game has the eighth highest Metacritic score of all time. What exactly was the point of this thread besides circlejerking?

At least the bore is better than this.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45268.0

I PROTESTED

[benjipwns]

Maybe in about 10 years? Or 20, at the latest? Will political and societal utopia arrive once whites are a minority in this country?

I wonder what politics will be like then? The GOP will be long dead for sure, or at least transformed into a much more moderate centrist party. Once the entire country is controlled by minorities, and we already have single payer and free college and unfettered immigration, what will be the most important political issues left? Will there even be much interest in politics, at all, at that point?

I'm thinking maybe even revoking the 2nd amendment might be possible. One can only dream.

Someone just mainlined the fuck out of some Whig History holy shit.

[benjipwns]

maybe you could run up the one side of the pyramid to build up momentum

[Assimilate]

Maybe in about 10 years? Or 20, at the latest? Will political and societal utopia arrive once whites are a minority in this country?

I wonder what politics will be like then? The GOP will be long dead for sure, or at least transformed into a much more moderate centrist party. Once the entire country is controlled by minorities, and we already have single payer and free college and unfettered immigration, what will be the most important political issues left? Will there even be much interest in politics, at all, at that point?

I'm thinking maybe even revoking the 2nd amendment might be possible. One can only dream.

Someone just mainlined the fuck out of some Whig History holy shit.

Holy shit 

where's the thread that's in?

[Himu]

Don't AC games have capes where you can fly now or am I getting them mixed up with the superior batman games?

[benjipwns]

the funny part would still be your body hitting the pyramid and ragdolling downward slowly, especially if it was like GTA IV and you'd get stuck in the animation and just roll down the stairs with no ability to stop yourself until you hit the bottom and the Euphoria animation turned off

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i warned you about the pyramids bro

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[TVC15]

Don't AC games have capes where you can fly now or am I getting them mixed up with the superior batman games?

That last Arkham game was utter ass.

[Pepinappe]

Or maybe you can jump off the top of the pyramid, pull out some sort of glider Zelda-style, then leap of faith from there.

Then we'll have another gazillion threads saying how Zelda has inspired AC: O, triggering people. 

[thetylerrob]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

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One thing AC series is known for is its respect for physics and laws of nature. It's a fucking video game, nerds. Doing the leap of faith off the pyramids would be awesome.

You can't sustain a vertical fall off of the top of a pyramid you fuckinggggg  idiot head

[benjipwns]

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there probably hasn't been a sex monster like Keith Olbermann since Kurt Cobain

i guess technically he wouldn't be a "secret" monster at this point

[StealthFan]

[Himu]

Don't AC games have capes where you can fly now or am I getting them mixed up with the superior batman games?

That last Arkham game was utter ass.

Haven't played it. That series is the perfect example that bigger doesn't necessarily equal better. Haven't played one since Arkham City, which owns.

[tiesto]

I hope if anyone here is having a kid you name it Taco Bell.

Quesa Rita

If I ever have kids, I was thinking of naming my daughter Rita actually. (you probably already know why )

[StealthFan]

Arkham Knight wasn't ass. It just had awful tank battles is all.

[TVC15]

Arkham Knight wasn't ass. It just had awful tank battles is all.

They are the sole bad part and ruin the entire game for me. Way too frequent.

[Mr. Nobody]

When they incorporated the tank into the puzzles 

[TVC15]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497601/

Jack come home. You goin’ crazy.

[Rahxephon91]

Arkham Knight wasn't ass. It just had awful tank battles is all.

Yeah it's not like that awful part takes up 20% of the game. To the extent that you fight Deathstroke in a tank. It felt like you did more tank fighting than actual hand to hand fighting.

But yeah I guess they were the only bad part. Not the hilariously terrible story, extreme lack of boss battles, lame side content, and over focus on the batmobile.

Game was crap outside of it's graphics/production values and insane presentation.

[daemon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

[parallax]

Fuck. Did NeoGAF kill its hall of fame threads? I can't find the one where that game dev or Sony junior exec PM'd a guy to ask what he'd accomplished in his life.

the jeff bell thread?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1496710/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/1496814/
the real heroes

[benjipwns]

Fuck. Did NeoGAF kill its hall of fame threads? I can't find the one where that game dev or Sony junior exec PM'd a guy to ask what he'd accomplished in his life.

the jeff bell thread?

That's the one. I'm not logged in but there doesn't seem to be a graveyard forum anymore.

And your contribution to society is ... what?

[TVC15]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

Certainly looks like something from a forum Cindi would be into.

    

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[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

I think you mean award for new contender for ResetEra slogan:

[Momo]

And your contribution to society is ... what?

masturbating a world record amount of times

[benjipwns]

GODDAMMIT TVC

[Momo]

I havent seen an hentai since those late night sci fi channel soft hentais as a teen

[daemon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

I think you mean award for new contender for ResetEra slogan:
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Psh, you're wrong, this is the contender

[Momo]