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[Himu]

Example of whataboutism is most things involving Trump's PR.

Let's take the Charlotsville terrorist attack when that asshole ran over protesters.

The president is tasked with making a statement to condemn the white nationalists who did this violence and protested saying very un-American things.

His response: I think there is blame on both sides.

It's a way to deflect responsibility.

[Joe Molotov]

Example of whataboutism is most things involving Trump's PR.

Let's take the Charlotsville terrorist attack when that asshole ran over protesters.

The president is tasked with making a statement to condemn the white nationalists who did this violence and protested saying very un-American things.

His response: I think there is blame on both sides.

It's a way to deflect responsibility.

I blame George Lucas.

[shosta]

"Deflecting" is the better notion. Clearer meaning.

A deflection changes the subject entirely. A whataboutism just discredits an argument by suggesting the arguing person is being hypocritical.

[Raist]

I'll admit, I don't really get what "whataboutism" is.  Is it just a form of reductio ad absurdum?

More like tu quoque. The soviets made it a national sport during the cold war.

[Assimilate]

I deployed whataboutism once when i got caught at a bar with another girl.

The other girl i was seeing that caught me brought a friend i knew had cheated many times on her bf, so i made it whatabout sussie? she's a whore!

Surprisingly, it worked. 

[I'm a Puppy!]

"Deflecting" is the better notion. Clearer meaning.

A deflection changes the subject entirely. A whataboutism just discredits an argument by suggesting the arguing person is being hypocritical.

Given this interpretation then, what's so bad about it? You can't be like "Don't call me out about being a hypocrite!" Seems a disingenuous way to get out of discussing short-comings.

It's one thing to be like, "Hey, you just stole that car!" and then get "Oh yeah? Well remember in 1998 you told my sister she was ugly?" But it's another to say "Yeah, you're driving a stolen car yourself."

[VomKriege]

"Deflecting" is the better notion. Clearer meaning.

A deflection changes the subject entirely. A whataboutism just discredits an argument by suggesting the arguing person is being hypocritical.

Given this interpretation then, what's so bad about it? You can't be like "Don't call me out about being a hypocrite!" Seems a disingenuous way to get out of discussing short-comings.

It's one thing to be like, "Hey, you just stole that car!" and then get "Oh yeah? Well remember in 1998 you told my sister she was ugly?" But it's another to say "Yeah, you're driving a stolen car yourself."

Well, the commies did it. Are you a commie ? Why do you hate freedom ?

[Himu]

It's fine to point out hypocrisy; but someone else's hypocrisy doesn't excuse someone or something from wrong.  That's the "bad" part of whataboutism, is that it's used to deflect or excuse yourself or whomever you are defending (well, it's not really a real defense, hence the problem.)

Fuck I hate that term.

It's a very useful term that gets misused by certain people. That's all.

[shosta]

It's a logical fallacy because it attacks someone's character through their past actions or beliefs instead of refuting the argument directly. Also what Cindi said.

Personally I think name-dropping logical fallacies during moderation is a bit awkward and stilted.

[Himu]

It's a very useful term that gets misused by certain people. That's all.

I just dislike the actual term, not really it's meaning.. I can't help but read "whataboutism" in a sort of know-it-all term in my head lol.

Yeah, I don't like the actual name so I don't use it.

[Jansen]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

exactly my thought as well

[Himu]

WHY do sjws analyze EVERYTHING in the most ridiculous manner?

Some dude just quoted me and said that it was problematic to have women as survivor horror protagonists because you are vulnerable.

Social studies is apt far more than social justice.

Someone please shoot me.

[I'm a Puppy!]

WHY do Social Studies Warriors analyze EVERYTHING in the most ridiculous manner?

Some dude just quoted me and said that it was problematic to have women as survivor horror protagonists because you are vulnerable.

Social studies is apt far more than social justice.

Someone please shoot me.

Advocating violence against women

[EightBitNate]

Y’all see the mansplaining post yet?

[Jansen]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

[Jenkem]

WHY do Social Studies Warriors analyze EVERYTHING in the most ridiculous manner?

Some dude just quoted me and said that it was problematic to have women as survivor horror protagonists because you are vulnerable.

Social studies is apt far more than social justice.

Someone please shoot me.

Advocating violence against women

why does cindi have to be so transphobic?

[seagrams hotsauce]

uhh I dunno, Paul Joseph Watson is pretty far right dude

What makes him far right as opposed to just right? Seems like everyone and everything just gets called far right if they lean right.

Fair enough. He was 'far right' in like 2015, but it does seem like that extremist tone is just 'default right' these days

[nudemacusers]

Guys I’m just glad we’re finally off page (((88)))

[Broseidon]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

are you actually this much of a dumbass or are you taking the piss?

[Pepinappe]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1450493/

a couple posts below:

Please don't be a secret sex monster, please don't be a secret sex monster, please don't be a secret sex monster...

they know who Keith Olbermann is right?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-feel-like-zelda-botw-is-one-of-the-best-games-they-have-ever-played.7200/

I rolled my eyes when I saw this thread. Game has the eighth highest Metacritic score of all time. What exactly was the point of this thread besides circlejerking?

At least the bore is better than this.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45268.0

I PROTESTED

[benjipwns]

Maybe in about 10 years? Or 20, at the latest? Will political and societal utopia arrive once whites are a minority in this country?

I wonder what politics will be like then? The GOP will be long dead for sure, or at least transformed into a much more moderate centrist party. Once the entire country is controlled by minorities, and we already have single payer and free college and unfettered immigration, what will be the most important political issues left? Will there even be much interest in politics, at all, at that point?

I'm thinking maybe even revoking the 2nd amendment might be possible. One can only dream.

Someone just mainlined the fuck out of some Whig History holy shit.

[benjipwns]

maybe you could run up the one side of the pyramid to build up momentum

[Assimilate]

Maybe in about 10 years? Or 20, at the latest? Will political and societal utopia arrive once whites are a minority in this country?

I wonder what politics will be like then? The GOP will be long dead for sure, or at least transformed into a much more moderate centrist party. Once the entire country is controlled by minorities, and we already have single payer and free college and unfettered immigration, what will be the most important political issues left? Will there even be much interest in politics, at all, at that point?

I'm thinking maybe even revoking the 2nd amendment might be possible. One can only dream.

Someone just mainlined the fuck out of some Whig History holy shit.

Holy shit 

where's the thread that's in?

[Himu]

Don't AC games have capes where you can fly now or am I getting them mixed up with the superior batman games?

[shosta]

there probably hasn't been a sex monster like Keith Olbermann since Kurt Cobain

[benjipwns]

the funny part would still be your body hitting the pyramid and ragdolling downward slowly, especially if it was like GTA IV and you'd get stuck in the animation and just roll down the stairs with no ability to stop yourself until you hit the bottom and the Euphoria animation turned off

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i warned you about the pyramids bro

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[TVC15]

Don't AC games have capes where you can fly now or am I getting them mixed up with the superior batman games?

That last Arkham game was utter ass.

[Pepinappe]

Or maybe you can jump off the top of the pyramid, pull out some sort of glider Zelda-style, then leap of faith from there.

Then we'll have another gazillion threads saying how Zelda has inspired AC: O, triggering people. 

[thetylerrob]

I was told you can't even leap of faith from the top of a pyramid, so that game can go fuck itself

how the hell would that even work.

How can you dive 1000 feet into a tiny pile of hay in other places in the world? Who gives a shit how it works, if they put a game where I can climb pyramids but I can't do the leap of faith from the top, Ubisoft can go to hell.

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One thing AC series is known for is its respect for physics and laws of nature. It's a fucking video game, nerds. Doing the leap of faith off the pyramids would be awesome.

You can't sustain a vertical fall off of the top of a pyramid you fuckinggggg  idiot head

[benjipwns]

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there probably hasn't been a sex monster like Keith Olbermann since Kurt Cobain

i guess technically he wouldn't be a "secret" monster at this point

[shosta]

Wow, top of the page. I'm so honored to be here. I'd like to thank my mom, benjipwns, Cerium, Stumpokapow, 8BitNate's sister, Gretel's brother, and the guy who threw the piss onto Amir0x.

[StealthFan]

[shosta]

 Fuck. Did NeoGAF kill its hall of fame threads? I can't find the one where that game dev or Sony junior exec PM'd a guy to ask what he'd accomplished in his life.

[Himu]

Don't AC games have capes where you can fly now or am I getting them mixed up with the superior batman games?

That last Arkham game was utter ass.

Haven't played it. That series is the perfect example that bigger doesn't necessarily equal better. Haven't played one since Arkham City, which owns.

[tiesto]

I hope if anyone here is having a kid you name it Taco Bell.

Quesa Rita

If I ever have kids, I was thinking of naming my daughter Rita actually. (you probably already know why )

[StealthFan]

Arkham Knight wasn't ass. It just had awful tank battles is all.

[TVC15]

Arkham Knight wasn't ass. It just had awful tank battles is all.

They are the sole bad part and ruin the entire game for me. Way too frequent.

[Mr. Nobody]

When they incorporated the tank into the puzzles 

[TVC15]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497601/

Jack come home. You goin’ crazy.

[Rahxephon91]

Arkham Knight wasn't ass. It just had awful tank battles is all.

Yeah it's not like that awful part takes up 20% of the game. To the extent that you fight Deathstroke in a tank. It felt like you did more tank fighting than actual hand to hand fighting.

But yeah I guess they were the only bad part. Not the hilariously terrible story, extreme lack of boss battles, lame side content, and over focus on the batmobile.

Game was crap outside of it's graphics/production values and insane presentation.

[daemon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

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https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

[parallax]

Fuck. Did NeoGAF kill its hall of fame threads? I can't find the one where that game dev or Sony junior exec PM'd a guy to ask what he'd accomplished in his life.

the jeff bell thread?

[shosta]

Fuck. Did NeoGAF kill its hall of fame threads? I can't find the one where that game dev or Sony junior exec PM'd a guy to ask what he'd accomplished in his life.

the jeff bell thread?

That's the one. I'm not logged in but there doesn't seem to be a graveyard forum anymore.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1496710/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/1496814/
the real heroes

[benjipwns]

Fuck. Did NeoGAF kill its hall of fame threads? I can't find the one where that game dev or Sony junior exec PM'd a guy to ask what he'd accomplished in his life.

the jeff bell thread?

That's the one. I'm not logged in but there doesn't seem to be a graveyard forum anymore.

And your contribution to society is ... what?

[TVC15]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

Certainly looks like something from a forum Cindi would be into.

    

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[close]

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

I think you mean award for new contender for ResetEra slogan:

[Momo]

And your contribution to society is ... what?

masturbating a world record amount of times

[benjipwns]

GODDAMMIT TVC

[Momo]

I havent seen an hentai since those late night sci fi channel soft hentais as a teen

[daemon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1497780/

I like how puritan this reeesetter is, with hentai faces of ahegao as profile picture (he updated it with an even more stupid looking one), which is essentially turning the woman into a lewd-driven sex-slave asking for dick and semen.

link to the exact henta (obviously NSFW)i:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://nhentai.net/g/177810

[close]

Bestiality and rape on all the holes and liking it. Truly the defender of women we need.


The award for "gross and stupid" goes for him, and I guess since i'm never personally gonna meet him it's quite alright to think he's a disgusting piece of weeabo crap. I mean, that's totally fine, right?

I think you mean award for new contender for ResetEra slogan:
(Image removed from quote.)

Psh, you're wrong, this is the contender

[Momo]

 

[benjipwns]

more real heroes:

Olly Smith
(@OllyWrites)
*sees Angela Lansbury is trending* "OH NO SHE BETTER NOT BE DEAD" "oh wait it's worse"
16 hours ago · Twitter

Brohibition Now
(@OhNoSheTwitnt)
[sees Angela Lansbury trending] Oh my god, did she die??? [sees why Angela Lansbury is trending] Ok, so as far as I’m concerned, yes she did.
15 hours ago · Twitter

Dr Fern Riddell
(@FernRiddell)
Angela Lansbury, star of the 1944 version of Gaslight, which gave us the term ‘Gaslighting’, has just declared that attractive women share the blame for sexual harassment.
15 hours ago · Twitter

wow that was one hell of a long con gaslight attempt on women

also shout out to Calbot Cove's Dr. Seth Hazlitt for his part in covering up Jessica Fletcher's murderous rampage through a town of 3000 people

[thisismyusername]

Fuck. Did NeoGAF kill its hall of fame threads? I can't find the one where that game dev or Sony junior exec PM'd a guy to ask what he'd accomplished in his life.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7092185&postcount=1

?

[thetylerrob]

I've never consumed any media. Be the change you want to see sheeple

[agrajag]

"Deflecting" is the better notion. Clearer meaning.

A deflection changes the subject entirely. A whataboutism just discredits an argument by suggesting the arguing person is being hypocritical.

Given this interpretation then, what's so bad about it? You can't be like "Don't call me out about being a hypocrite!" Seems a disingenuous way to get out of discussing short-comings.

It's one thing to be like, "Hey, you just stole that car!" and then get "Oh yeah? Well remember in 1998 you told my sister she was ugly?" But it's another to say "Yeah, you're driving a stolen car yourself."

Because often you're wading into ad hominem territory. You're using someone's hypocrisy to discredit them as  a person, and that's a fallacy in debate. I don't see what's wrong with pointing out someone's hypocrisy conversationally though, or why vidya game forums must be treated as formal debate..

[shosta]

I was looking for the Jeff Bell stuff and spotted this classic.

Edge Magazine: Meet NeoGAF, the hardcore community shaping the games media agenda

Adam Orth’s apparent departure from Microsoft last night might just be NeoGAF’s defining moment, for better or worse.

In Orth’s sad tale we can see The NeoGAF Effect in action. It is a videogame forum with a voracious appetite, its members perpetually scouring the web for fresh information. It has unearthed countless news stories over the years; news stories that the games media is all too happy to pick up and run with. It was once described to us years ago by a contemporary in the business as their ‘secret weapon’ – a crowdsourced goldmine of news that other outlets might not have picked up on just yet.

Times have changed. NeoGAF is becoming more conspicuous and influential with every controversy it fuels, and every leaked screenshot it houses. It spotted Orth’s tweets, dissected them, and brought them to the games media’s attention, prompting an apology and now, apparently, has played its part in someone actually losing their job.

There’s little sympathy for Orth on NeoGAF. We ask its founder Tyler Malka if he worries about just how far NeoGAF’s members go in pursuing individuals in the games business. “If detective work strays into the realm of revealing personal information or facilitating potential for harassment, it is dealt with appropriately,” he tells us. “Holding the spotlight to asinine comments doesn’t constitute harassment, nor do harsh characterizations. The NeoGAF userbase is not a uniform entity; at the times when thousands of voices align on one position, however, we can often see a tangible result.”

That’s putting it lightly. Previous ‘tangible results’ of NeoGAF’s hivemind in action are legion, but Malka describes the 2007 incident involving Jeff Bell as NeoGAF’s watershed moment. Bell sent a private message to NeoGAF user a Master Ninja, responding to his criticisms with the legend: “And your contribution to society is…what?”

Malka describes NeoGAF as his life’s work. He joined the community when he was fourteen, took it over when he was 19 and has been running it as a full-time job since 2006. He is now 28, and tells us that he has turned down seven-figure offers from large corporations and gaming networks to buy his site.

NeoGAF might be seen by some as a lawless playground for harder-than hardcore games enthusiasts, but that’s not the case, Malka contends. “We have strict rules about user behaviour, strict rules against bigotry and discourse that resembles Youtube comments, and the enforcement of these rules is backed by the difficulty in obtaining an account,” he tells us.

"When I travelled to Europe last year for four months, I met up with dozens of NeoGAF members, and stayed at the home of two NeoGAF members in Switzerland,” says Malka. “They met each other thanks to the site a few years prior, and she moved from the United States over there and got married. We’ve had several other marriages under similar circumstances.”

Perhaps it’s little wonder – when it digs up stories, as it has with the Orth furore, it is setting the news agenda, and beating the media at its own game. Malka is absolutely right when he tells us that “crowdsourced investigation and fact-checking can be extraordinarily potent tools” – it is the reason his community finds screens posted on obscure Russian forums first, and unearths references to next-gen games on LinkedIn before news sites can.

[Boredfrom]

I'm pretty sure Cream is a troll.