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Boredfrom

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« Reply #11520 on: January 21, 2018, 07:21:08 PM »


So exactly like right now in the US?

And is not like here in Mexico we also dont have scumbags trying to make you feel bad for "wasting" your vote.

I just feel like your biparty system is starting to drive everyone insane, as compromise seems to be a bad word right now.

I mean for instance its hard to find compromise on environmental regulation when one party believes in science and the other tells it's constituents through its propaganda arms they trust that it is a liberal conspiracy. Where do you find common ground on that exactly?


Dunno man, but the answer probably is hidden somewhere in the fact that it seems that you are the only country in the planet we’re the general population and political class has problems with accepting the concept of global warming. And you guys have a genuinely better Education System than most countries on the planet.

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If you are seeking a di-polarized politic, I think realistically that, along with campaign finance reform, is the sort of path you could seek out.

I mean, believe it or no guys, you affect everyone on the planet when your country its trying to strangle itself. We are worry about you, guys. Specially since I want to have affordable video games again.
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« Reply #11521 on: January 21, 2018, 07:21:13 PM »
"One party doesn't believe" is party framing.

The healthcare rework was still a healthcare system. A removal of the mandate? Yah.

You aren't going back from healthcare, just tweaking it back and forth.

Also, there is no right to higher education, and I explained how we're halfway there already (in the poli thread) and how that has done damage to higher education. You don't have a right to something that should be selective by default. Not everyone is smart enough for higher education. Alternatively, a right to further training or help on a job/career path? Yeah, that's workable, since its just helping people along towards their natural filtering. However, the idea of a right to college is wrong.

Nola

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« Reply #11522 on: January 21, 2018, 07:34:17 PM »


So exactly like right now in the US?

And is not like here in Mexico we also dont have scumbags trying to make you feel bad for "wasting" your vote.

I just feel like your biparty system is starting to drive everyone insane, as compromise seems to be a bad word right now.

I mean for instance its hard to find compromise on environmental regulation when one party believes in science and the other tells it's constituents through its propaganda arms they trust that it is a liberal conspiracy. Where do you find common ground on that exactly?


Dunno man, but the answer probably is hidden somewhere in the fact that it seems that you are the only country in the planet we’re the general population and political class has problems with accepting the concept of global warming. And you guys have a genuinely better Education System than most countries on the planet.

That one is pretty simple actually. Like healthcare, we have great top of the line institutions, that doesn't exactly mean everyone has access or exposure to them. And states like mine, like with evolution in the past(and present), that actually barred schools from teaching climate change as settled science, if they are allowed to teach it at all.  Our political system is incredibly flawed  and corrupted. One of the two major parties has been all but taken over by industry when it comes to that specific topic on the federal and state level. Where their constituents get their news from a place that basically just passes on whatever the Heartland Institute or Republicans email out to producers, or blindly align themselves to a tribe where they will vote for pedophiles over a Democrat or third party.

Nola

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« Reply #11523 on: January 21, 2018, 07:35:33 PM »

The healthcare rework was still a healthcare system. A removal of the mandate? Yah.

You aren't going back from healthcare, just tweaking it back and forth.


You truly are a fucking moron.

Boredfrom

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« Reply #11524 on: January 21, 2018, 07:44:26 PM »


So exactly like right now in the US?

And is not like here in Mexico we also dont have scumbags trying to make you feel bad for "wasting" your vote.

I just feel like your biparty system is starting to drive everyone insane, as compromise seems to be a bad word right now.

I mean for instance its hard to find compromise on environmental regulation when one party believes in science and the other tells it's constituents through its propaganda arms they trust that it is a liberal conspiracy. Where do you find common ground on that exactly?


Dunno man, but the answer probably is hidden somewhere in the fact that it seems that you are the only country in the planet we’re the general population and political class has problems with accepting the concept of global warming. And you guys have a genuinely better Education System than most countries on the planet.

That one is pretty simple actually. Like healthcare, we have great top of the line institutions, that doesn't exactly mean everyone has access or exposure to them. And states like mine, like with evolution in the past(and present), that actually barred schools from teaching climate change as settled science, if they are allowed to teach it at all.  Our political system is incredibly flawed  and corrupted. One of the two major parties has been all but taken over by industry when it comes to that specific topic on the federal and state level. Where their constituents get their news from a place that basically just passes on whatever the Heartland Institute or Republicans email out to producers, or blindly align themselves to a tribe where they will vote for pedophiles over a Democrat or third party.

But given that, is kind of hard to totally blame constituents for the choices when they already conditioned from early on.

This kind of stuff also happens here, being sincere, but at least in education the curriculum is decided in a federal level.

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« Reply #11525 on: January 21, 2018, 07:47:51 PM »
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Asking the important questions. </acting an asshole>

Boredfrom

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« Reply #11526 on: January 21, 2018, 07:51:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3587739/

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This is going to go bad. This is going to cause some battle lines to be drawn in a way that we don't need right now. If I'm angry at her for anything, its for that. The figure that she has been in the last year, to a lot of people that I follow, if all of that was a lie then this is just going to damage so many relationships needlessly


Welcome to my world three years ago, Technomancer. Is not pretty, isnt it you asshole?

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Yeah she's never said she was trans like ever.

Not once.

Literally the only people claiming she's trans are Gaters and shit... just fyi.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... excelsiorcief,  come on, you are not helping her.

etiolate

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« Reply #11527 on: January 21, 2018, 07:56:55 PM »
the impressive-slash-frightening thing about these hate threads is they start out awful and then somehow ramp up to being beyond awful.

It's competitive hysteria. Someone sets the bar early and then everyone tries to up the insanity.

Boredfrom

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« Reply #11528 on: January 21, 2018, 08:03:17 PM »
Man, I get the idea of respecting someone if wants to come out or not. But resetera admits that Wu has problems and is a moron, you are not helping anybody by arguing that it was gator conspiracy everything bad related to her.  Specially if you want to compare stuff like this with the shallow shit show that GG (comparing Boogie with Chelsea WTF)

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« Reply #11529 on: January 21, 2018, 08:06:37 PM »
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I tried it once and haven't gone back. I feel like I'm being laughed at by the girls behind their fake smiles and laughs. And you know they talk smack about their viewers/donators to their friends. It makes me feel uncomfortable being part of that crowd.
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Nola

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11530 on: January 21, 2018, 08:08:20 PM »


But given that, is kind of hard to totally blame constituents for the choices when they already conditioned from early on.

This kind of stuff also happens here, being sincere, but at least in education the curriculum is decided in a federal level.

I don't really blame constituents entirely, I honestly see part of the story as many being victims to larger forces, like poor education and living in a geographical cocoon of propaganda and conditioning. Which is probably where I often deviate strongly from the normal Resetera crowd, as I often extend much more empathy and even sympathy to that crowd(in the course of where I caught my final ban on Neogaf).

At the same time, I find places like here also like to go way too far into trying to victimize these people as well, or excusing what is just entirely cognizant racism and fascist tendencies. Or try and frame this false equivalency between Trumpkins and Resetera's community from the tunnel vision focus this thread imposes. Nothing could be further from the truth.

etiolate

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« Reply #11531 on: January 21, 2018, 08:08:26 PM »
That's an oddly self-aware post for a reset members.

"I think everyone is secretly laughing at me"

Jansen

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« Reply #11532 on: January 21, 2018, 08:10:09 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/1011876/

brag about contacting mods :kobeyuck

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« Reply #11533 on: January 21, 2018, 08:10:37 PM »
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« Reply #11534 on: January 21, 2018, 08:10:44 PM »
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I tried it once and haven't gone back. I feel like I'm being laughed at by the girls behind their fake smiles and laughs. And you know they talk smack about their viewers/donators to their friends. It makes me feel uncomfortable being part of that crowd.
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I mean, most porn is like that (aka fake)

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« Reply #11535 on: January 21, 2018, 08:11:55 PM »
Like school but everyone is teacher's pet.  :doge
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Boredfrom

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« Reply #11536 on: January 21, 2018, 08:15:56 PM »


But given that, is kind of hard to totally blame constituents for the choices when they already conditioned from early on.

This kind of stuff also happens here, being sincere, but at least in education the curriculum is decided in a federal level.

I don't really blame constituents entirely, I honestly see part of the story as many being victims to larger forces, like poor education and living in a geographical cocoon of propaganda and conditioning. Which is probably where I often deviate strongly from the normal Resetera crowd, as I often extend much more empathy and even sympathy to that crowd(in the course of where I caught my final ban on Neogaf).

At the same time, I find places like here also like to go way too far into trying to victimize these people as well, or excusing what is just entirely cognizant racism and fascist tendencies. Or try and frame this false equivalency between Trumpkins and Resetera's community from the tunnel vision focus this thread imposes. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Well, a Resetera user just claimed that Free Speech is counter productive because a country he were use to live doesn’t have it and they are okay.


Nola

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11537 on: January 21, 2018, 08:20:37 PM »


But given that, is kind of hard to totally blame constituents for the choices when they already conditioned from early on.

This kind of stuff also happens here, being sincere, but at least in education the curriculum is decided in a federal level.

I don't really blame constituents entirely, I honestly see part of the story as many being victims to larger forces, like poor education and living in a geographical cocoon of propaganda and conditioning. Which is probably where I often deviate strongly from the normal Resetera crowd, as I often extend much more empathy and even sympathy to that crowd(in the course of where I caught my final ban on Neogaf).

At the same time, I find places like here also like to go way too far into trying to victimize these people as well, or excusing what is just entirely cognizant racism and fascist tendencies. Or try and frame this false equivalency between Trumpkins and Resetera's community from the tunnel vision focus this thread imposes. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Well, a Resetera user just claimed that Free Speech is counter productive because a country he were use to live doesn’t have it and they are okay.

And I could show you a post from the sports board I frequent that received 20 or so upvotes fantasizing about how we should re-open Auschwitz to house the liberals and muslims.

Sometimes, perhaps, it is good to take a step back and remind yourself of the larger context of the world outside the narrow places we focus our attention on.


Jansen

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11538 on: January 21, 2018, 08:22:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3576533/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3576820/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3578029/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3574183/

rahxephon what will you do when reeeee permabans you as well lol

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Don't agree with any of this. Xenoblade doesn't deserve to be on any top ten list. It's garbage. One of the worst games of the year. Don't care for Zelda and Mario, Persona 5 and Horizon were far better. It's not a surprise though.

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Really Splatoon 2 is the best shooter of the year? Yeah this list is crap. There's an obvious Nintendo bias, but thats because the world is high on the Switch right now. We'll see where the Switch is in year 2 and 3 where they don't have anymore Wii U ports or super polished games that clearly started on the Wii U to release.

But XB2's placement is just sad.

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It is actually shocking as many better shooters than an enhanced port came out this year. PUBG will probably also be the game most people care about and remember when this gen is over and not Splatoon 2.

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This is'nt a Nintendo related thread and yes, when talk of Bravley Default ports came up I said that would be great as I never finished the 1st one after like 80 hours playing it. It would be nice to have actual good jrpgs on the system and a good thing to play before Octopath comes out. But since the Switch is getting TWEY that's also good.

Also I was pretty happy about Bayonetta 2 getting a port since the game was amazing and even more happy about B3.

Also I praise XBX at every opportunity which I believe is a Nintendo Published game.

So to answer your question, yes.


XB2 topping Persona 5 and Nier would be a crime.  A crappy Tales knock off doesn't deserve to rank higher then some of the best Japanese games of the last decade. Hell it doesn't deserve to rank above Tales of Beseria, but that's probably because people passed on yet another Tales game.

Nier Auto is going to be talked about for years. Once Monolith comes out with a new and more polished game who knows if anyone will care about their rushed sequel job.

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These screens are an accurate depiction of how bad the game looks in handheld mode right?

Though not a depiction of how bad the voice acting and writing are.

get mad cuz a forum run by and stuffed full of ntards vote for nintarded games :heh
« Last Edit: January 21, 2018, 08:29:21 PM by Jansen »

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11539 on: January 21, 2018, 08:22:55 PM »
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I do really like custom videos though. It's my prefered method of supporting sex workers.
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« Reply #11540 on: January 21, 2018, 08:29:46 PM »
Zelda is as overhyped as any big franchise open world game in its launch year (Arkham City, GTA4,...), but the rest isn't bad. At least if you ignore Creepoblade 2 on the list. :yeshrug
Nintenyearolds still are insufferable in that thread though. Blatant console wartards act like sitting on a high horse, yuck.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2018, 08:35:07 PM by Spieler1 »

Boredfrom

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11541 on: January 21, 2018, 08:32:09 PM »


But given that, is kind of hard to totally blame constituents for the choices when they already conditioned from early on.

This kind of stuff also happens here, being sincere, but at least in education the curriculum is decided in a federal level.

I don't really blame constituents entirely, I honestly see part of the story as many being victims to larger forces, like poor education and living in a geographical cocoon of propaganda and conditioning. Which is probably where I often deviate strongly from the normal Resetera crowd, as I often extend much more empathy and even sympathy to that crowd(in the course of where I caught my final ban on Neogaf).

At the same time, I find places like here also like to go way too far into trying to victimize these people as well, or excusing what is just entirely cognizant racism and fascist tendencies. Or try and frame this false equivalency between Trumpkins and Resetera's community from the tunnel vision focus this thread imposes. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Well, a Resetera user just claimed that Free Speech is counter productive because a country he were use to live doesn’t have it and they are okay.

And I could show you a post from the sports board I frequent that received 20 or so upvotes fantasizing about how we should re-open Auschwitz to house the liberals and muslims.

Sometimes, perhaps, it is good to take a step back and remind yourself of the larger context of the world outside the narrow places we focus our attention on.

So both are scumbags. Gotcha.

Trumpkins will always be the bigger idiots, but Im not exactly thrilled that there is people like that in the other side of the political spectrum, specially in a video game forum that has threads like "what is your favorite use of censorship". 

Jansen

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11542 on: January 21, 2018, 08:38:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3566188/

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I think close to nothing should be censored. Child porn and snuff movies are the only ones that come to mind, because actual people were/are being harmed in the making of these. Perhaps you could add media that encourages people to commit crimes, but it'd be pretty hard to pinpoint when something crosses that line. Anyway, a written or animated snuff film or child porn is acceptable in my book. I don't know why people would want to make/consume those, but then again, I don't know why people watch SAW movies either. I'll just leave them to it. I don't think media has the power to make people do things. If someone rapes a child, it's not because they played Criminal Girls or whatever. As long as they don't commit any crimes, I'm fine with people creating/consuming any kind of media. I hope that's the kind of world we live in.


I disagree. Mechanics, menu's and various other aspects of games need to be functional. If they don't function right, the game fails in what it set out to do. Unless the developer intended the game to be janky, which I don't think anyone does. Besides, the developer has every right to keep any kind of combat or other element in a game if they'd like. No one's forcing them to change anything. That's taking feedback from the players after the fact. That's not the case with localizations, because those changes are made before people can get their hands on them, and the intent of the developer was already clear from the start. Many problems in games can be solved by adding new content as well, such as additional control schemes or colorblind options. That's the difference.


Exactly because it's a niche subculture, it needs to be protected. If the designs in XC2 were more similar to the first game, that'd be fine if that's what the developers wanted. They didn't though. They wanted boobs. For whatever reason. Maybe they like boobs and fanservice, maybe they wanted to appeal to otaku, maybe they wanted those artists they hired to freely create designs. It's hard to say. It's pretty clear what the intent of the developer was though. If you don't like that, don't buy the game?


Yeah, it really is surprising that people who like a thing, defend that thing when it's criticized from all angles. But since you're asking, yeah, I would defend the existence of things I don't like, if I were aware of them.


Those games are "Japan being Japan" even if there's many other ways Japan can be Japan as well.


All those could have something to do with games (not) getting 'self-censored' during localization, and I don't think you've said anything in your post that proves otherwise.


Whether something is improved or not is up for debate. Fans of fanservice-heavy games do not have the power to take over games, and even if they did, it's only because games with those elements sell well, and devs cater to that. Can you really blame either party in that case? People who want a thing get a thing. That's a company catering to a demographic. I also think you got this the other way around. If a game already has fanservice elements in, and they need to be changed for a western release... aren't the people who like these changes the ones who want to take over a game that was never meant for them? That's the crux of the issue.


One could say the same thing about those vehemently opposed to fanservice. Your needs are met elsewhere, so what you want doesn't matter. There's plenty of games without any fanservice, and you can go play those. Why should the developer suddenly have to change things according to your will?

 :jared

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11543 on: January 21, 2018, 08:39:41 PM »
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I tried it once and haven't gone back. I feel like I'm being laughed at by the girls behind their fake smiles and laughs. And you know they talk smack about their viewers/donators to their friends. It makes me feel uncomfortable being part of that crowd.
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Fuck stepsiblings, you can easily find actual sisters who are camgirls. Sunrise Twins, Chrissyss + DiamondFlame, etc.

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« Reply #11544 on: January 21, 2018, 08:41:43 PM »
I don't even know what to say
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11545 on: January 21, 2018, 08:42:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3566188/

Quote from: Lone Cactus Motel, post: 3566188, member: 35571
I think close to nothing should be censored. Child porn and snuff movies are the only ones that come to mind, because actual people were/are being harmed in the making of these. Perhaps you could add media that encourages people to commit crimes, but it'd be pretty hard to pinpoint when something crosses that line. Anyway, a written or animated snuff film or child porn is acceptable in my book. I don't know why people would want to make/consume those, but then again, I don't know why people watch SAW movies either. I'll just leave them to it. I don't think media has the power to make people do things. If someone rapes a child, it's not because they played Criminal Girls or whatever. As long as they don't commit any crimes, I'm fine with people creating/consuming any kind of media. I hope that's the kind of world we live in.


I disagree. Mechanics, menu's and various other aspects of games need to be functional. If they don't function right, the game fails in what it set out to do. Unless the developer intended the game to be janky, which I don't think anyone does. Besides, the developer has every right to keep any kind of combat or other element in a game if they'd like. No one's forcing them to change anything. That's taking feedback from the players after the fact. That's not the case with localizations, because those changes are made before people can get their hands on them, and the intent of the developer was already clear from the start. Many problems in games can be solved by adding new content as well, such as additional control schemes or colorblind options. That's the difference.


Exactly because it's a niche subculture, it needs to be protected. If the designs in XC2 were more similar to the first game, that'd be fine if that's what the developers wanted. They didn't though. They wanted boobs. For whatever reason. Maybe they like boobs and fanservice, maybe they wanted to appeal to otaku, maybe they wanted those artists they hired to freely create designs. It's hard to say. It's pretty clear what the intent of the developer was though. If you don't like that, don't buy the game?


Yeah, it really is surprising that people who like a thing, defend that thing when it's criticized from all angles. But since you're asking, yeah, I would defend the existence of things I don't like, if I were aware of them.


Those games are "Japan being Japan" even if there's many other ways Japan can be Japan as well.


All those could have something to do with games (not) getting 'self-censored' during localization, and I don't think you've said anything in your post that proves otherwise.


Whether something is improved or not is up for debate. Fans of fanservice-heavy games do not have the power to take over games, and even if they did, it's only because games with those elements sell well, and devs cater to that. Can you really blame either party in that case? People who want a thing get a thing. That's a company catering to a demographic. I also think you got this the other way around. If a game already has fanservice elements in, and they need to be changed for a western release... aren't the people who like these changes the ones who want to take over a game that was never meant for them? That's the crux of the issue.


One could say the same thing about those vehemently opposed to fanservice. Your needs are met elsewhere, so what you want doesn't matter. There's plenty of games without any fanservice, and you can go play those. Why should the developer suddenly have to change things according to your will?

 :jared

Then again, Allison Rapp threads two years ago...

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11546 on: January 21, 2018, 08:43:33 PM »
I don't even know what to say

Yes you do. Let go of your pride and embrace your shame.

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« Reply #11547 on: January 21, 2018, 08:53:33 PM »
apparently "lone cactus motel" is for car toy sets based on classic Americana



Jansen

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #11548 on: January 21, 2018, 09:07:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3566188/

Quote from: Lone Cactus Motel, post: 3566188, member: 35571
I think close to nothing should be censored. Child porn and snuff movies are the only ones that come to mind, because actual people were/are being harmed in the making of these. Perhaps you could add media that encourages people to commit crimes, but it'd be pretty hard to pinpoint when something crosses that line. Anyway, a written or animated snuff film or child porn is acceptable in my book. I don't know why people would want to make/consume those, but then again, I don't know why people watch SAW movies either. I'll just leave them to it. I don't think media has the power to make people do things. If someone rapes a child, it's not because they played Criminal Girls or whatever. As long as they don't commit any crimes, I'm fine with people creating/consuming any kind of media. I hope that's the kind of world we live in.


I disagree. Mechanics, menu's and various other aspects of games need to be functional. If they don't function right, the game fails in what it set out to do. Unless the developer intended the game to be janky, which I don't think anyone does. Besides, the developer has every right to keep any kind of combat or other element in a game if they'd like. No one's forcing them to change anything. That's taking feedback from the players after the fact. That's not the case with localizations, because those changes are made before people can get their hands on them, and the intent of the developer was already clear from the start. Many problems in games can be solved by adding new content as well, such as additional control schemes or colorblind options. That's the difference.


Exactly because it's a niche subculture, it needs to be protected. If the designs in XC2 were more similar to the first game, that'd be fine if that's what the developers wanted. They didn't though. They wanted boobs. For whatever reason. Maybe they like boobs and fanservice, maybe they wanted to appeal to otaku, maybe they wanted those artists they hired to freely create designs. It's hard to say. It's pretty clear what the intent of the developer was though. If you don't like that, don't buy the game?


Yeah, it really is surprising that people who like a thing, defend that thing when it's criticized from all angles. But since you're asking, yeah, I would defend the existence of things I don't like, if I were aware of them.


Those games are "Japan being Japan" even if there's many other ways Japan can be Japan as well.


All those could have something to do with games (not) getting 'self-censored' during localization, and I don't think you've said anything in your post that proves otherwise.


Whether something is improved or not is up for debate. Fans of fanservice-heavy games do not have the power to take over games, and even if they did, it's only because games with those elements sell well, and devs cater to that. Can you really blame either party in that case? People who want a thing get a thing. That's a company catering to a demographic. I also think you got this the other way around. If a game already has fanservice elements in, and they need to be changed for a western release... aren't the people who like these changes the ones who want to take over a game that was never meant for them? That's the crux of the issue.


One could say the same thing about those vehemently opposed to fanservice. Your needs are met elsewhere, so what you want doesn't matter. There's plenty of games without any fanservice, and you can go play those. Why should the developer suddenly have to change things according to your will?

 :jared

Then again, Allison Rapp threads two years ago...

who? oh you mean maria mint  :heartbeat  :tauntaun

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« Reply #11549 on: January 21, 2018, 09:14:08 PM »
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That's not how that works. Someone isn't trans just because you think they look it.

I never said or implied that and I think it's disgusting excelsior did. When Gawker said Peter Thiel was gay, the public knew Peter Thiel was gay. It didn't just suddenly become true when he acknowledged it.

There's a fucking Medium article talking about Brianna Wu being trans, do I just pretend the public record doesn't exist?

Permed too. Wow.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chelsea-manning-cautionary-tale-of-not-chilling-with-alt-righters-if-you-want-plausible-deniability.17945/page-8

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« Reply #11550 on: January 21, 2018, 09:16:05 PM »
That shitty port of Nier winning PC game of the year :heh

Coming off them arguing in the Media Create thread that Yoko Taro is bigger in Japan than Granblue Fantasy and Era just seems like a race to build the most deluded fanbase cult.

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« Reply #11551 on: January 21, 2018, 09:19:30 PM »
wait Brianna Wu being trans is a gamergate conspiracy?

and you're permed for it


i'm sorry but thats just hilarious

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« Reply #11552 on: January 21, 2018, 09:21:22 PM »
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That's not how that works. Someone isn't trans just because you think they look it.

I never said or implied that and I think it's disgusting excelsior did. When Gawker said Peter Thiel was gay, the public knew Peter Thiel was gay. It didn't just suddenly become true when he acknowledged it.

There's a fucking Medium article talking about Brianna Wu being trans, do I just pretend the public record doesn't exist?

Permed too. Wow.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chelsea-manning-cautionary-tale-of-not-chilling-with-alt-righters-if-you-want-plausible-deniability.17945/page-8
You're a true Borian now.  :doge

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« Reply #11553 on: January 21, 2018, 09:23:58 PM »
How can that be transphobic content if Brianna Wu isn't trans?
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« Reply #11554 on: January 21, 2018, 09:24:40 PM »


So both are scumbags. Gotcha.

Trumpkins will always be the bigger idiots, but Im not exactly thrilled that there is people like that in the other side of the political spectrum, specially in a video game forum that has threads like "what is your favorite use of censorship".

I mean I don't like it either, and if I thought the modship wasnt steering that community into a glacier, I might be compelled to point out the absurdity. But the absurdity and dumbfuckery is basically the only valuable commodity that site offers now. And this thread is best when it is like a social media feed of Darwin awards for internet shit posts.

Not so much when the etiolate's are trying to derive complex generalized social theories from their probably borderline unhealthy obsession with a fringe left-wing video game board and their most shitty posters, many that derive their identities from their game purchasing habits.

Idiots are everywhere in my experience. There are people of any political stripe that bend toward seeking or allowing some authority to enact vengeance and order on their perceived enemies without much introspection on the consequences of that logic. There is a whole philosophy of thought and field of study about humans penchant for vengeance over justice. I don't really derive a whole lot from seeing that carrying out on a forum that protects and tacitly endorses that sort of rhetoric.

However, it gets a little much for me to take seriously some of the people generalizing, catastrophizing and false equivocating over posts on said fringe video game message board, when, for instance, as we speak, a major political party is shutting down the government over wanting to build a wall and expel brown people fueled on wide reaching appeals to racism. That's when I start to see cause for concern. When the rhetoric of the fringe is becoming policy staples of major power stakeholders. I don't see that much with the left, I definitely see that with the right, and that is what separates the two.

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« Reply #11555 on: January 21, 2018, 09:26:10 PM »
If it wasn't for our mutual love of Walton Goggins i'd punch you right in the face.

I'm going to be honest the worst part is excellsior's post that I think Wu is trans based on how she looks. I have facial prosopagnosia, I could barely describe what she looks like.

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« Reply #11557 on: January 21, 2018, 09:28:14 PM »
Might I welcome you to the intellectual dark web?

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« Reply #11558 on: January 21, 2018, 09:29:23 PM »
I don't remember if there was a followup to the story.

Here's the follow up:

My boss thought it was really stupid. My boss also thought he had had bad opinions about Star Wars.

However, I still needed to stop e-fighting with the Portland-based Star Wars idiot while being identifiable as an employee of my employer. So I deleted my tweets, pictures, and everything else that would make me identifiable as an employee of my employer. All this even though I had a whopping 18 followers and barely tweeted anymore. Which I was made fun of for by the Portland-based Star Wars idiot. It ended up being more annoying than anything else because the Portland-based Star Wars idiot is a huge fucking baby and tried to paint me as a racist, sexist, and other horrible things that I am not. He also misquoted me. Common alt-right deception tactics.

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« Reply #11559 on: January 21, 2018, 09:30:35 PM »
That shitty port of Nier winning PC game of the year :heh

Coming off them arguing in the Media Create thread that Yoko Taro is bigger in Japan than Granblue Fantasy and Era just seems like a race to build the most deluded fanbase cult.

Can't wait for the next mud fight in which one half applauds Yoko Taro for saying "I like beautiful girls" and the other half considers such implied sexual assault.

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« Reply #11560 on: January 21, 2018, 09:33:29 PM »
re chelsea manning
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I dont think she literally hangs out with them as chummy friends. The OP even states: "while she was not there protesting, she was there in a effort to bridge gaps between left and right."
Ok so why can't she try and apply that attitude and try and "bridge gaps" between people like herself and the "centrists" she hates so much.

Oh wait I fucking know why.
Because they tortured her?
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« Reply #11561 on: January 21, 2018, 09:34:34 PM »
damn

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« Reply #11562 on: January 21, 2018, 09:38:06 PM »
I live in Townsville Australia where Julian Assange was born, yet sadly I bet if I asked 10 people my age who Chelsea Manning is, they wouldn't have a clue.

Back in 2007 everyone was like "Julian Assange fuck yeah, Wikileaks is awesome" now all anyone talks about is cyptocurrency, vaping, and whether we should change the date of Australia Day.

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« Reply #11563 on: January 21, 2018, 09:40:42 PM »
Maybe if you deadnamed her and say she stopped Hilary and feminism as a whole they would know?

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« Reply #11564 on: January 21, 2018, 09:43:47 PM »
Nah Townsville had tons of votes for the One Nation party (Aka the "stop the immigrants"-party).

People just need 1 or 2 beers in them before they go on racist rants. Australians love women they are just racist as shit.

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« Reply #11565 on: January 21, 2018, 09:47:38 PM »
Australia is an island with immigration qualifications. I don't see how you have a migrant crisis.

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« Reply #11566 on: January 21, 2018, 09:48:03 PM »
Edit: Sorry. Never mind. You are talking about Manning.

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« Reply #11567 on: January 21, 2018, 09:52:31 PM »
go ahead and mock the Wu thing

its one of the most amazingly dumb things I've seen on Reset



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« Reply #11568 on: January 21, 2018, 09:52:34 PM »
Nah Townsville had tons of votes for the One Nation party (Aka the "stop the immigrants"-party).

People just need 1 or 2 beers in them before they go on racist rants. Australians love women they are just racist as shit.
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« Reply #11569 on: January 21, 2018, 09:53:16 PM »
who the fuck cares about chelsea manning and julian assange, we got jonathon thurstons shoulder to worry about

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« Reply #11570 on: January 21, 2018, 09:55:23 PM »
Australia is an island with immigration qualifications. I don't see how you have a migrant crisis.

Basically the government doesn't want to let immigrants in despite have a legal obligation to do so, so they have them imprisoned offshore indefinitely as a deterrent for any other immigrants who would have the audacity to flee their war-torn countries.

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« Reply #11571 on: January 21, 2018, 09:56:34 PM »
True story:

My brother in law moved to ozzie land and started dating an australian. He brought her back to the states on a visit and the only conversation I had with her was about their immigration policy, which I initiated.










I'm not a great dinner guest.

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« Reply #11572 on: January 21, 2018, 09:57:27 PM »
Don't flatter yourself, you're not a great anything.

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« Reply #11574 on: January 21, 2018, 09:59:00 PM »
wait wait wait wait



W A I T

WAIT


 

you're saying people are coming to Australia and its basically a jail? I don't believe it

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« Reply #11575 on: January 21, 2018, 10:05:16 PM »
The best part is when they made it a crime for health workers to whistleblow on the neglectful conditions and physical and sexual abuse by guards because it "harms the government's ability to stop the boats".

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« Reply #11576 on: January 21, 2018, 10:08:48 PM »
Australia is an island with immigration qualifications. I don't see how you have a migrant crisis.

Bunch of SEAsians are "invading" their country. Little... forgetting... Singapore(?) are popping up like Little Cuba or Chinatowns in America. Bogans hate them.

Australia is an island with immigration qualifications. I don't see how you have a migrant crisis.

Basically the government doesn't want to let immigrants in despite have a legal obligation to do so, so they have them imprisoned offshore indefinitely as a deterrent for any other immigrants who would have the audacity to flee their war-torn countries.

Also, this.

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« Reply #11577 on: January 21, 2018, 10:12:39 PM »
How can that be transphobic content if Brianna Wu isn't trans?
Earlier they were talking about how the alt right decided any "ugly woman must be trans," so if they're running with that logic I guess it's also implying that trans people must look ugly, or easily be visually identifiable, which is hurtful?

I thought I'd heard for years that Brianna Wu was trans, and not even from nasty sources like kiwi.  Just casual googling.  And also I just looked up a video interview and I gotta say yeah most likely?
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