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Nintex

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12600 on: January 27, 2018, 01:51:11 PM »

The best thing about the Kek folks is that there's always a message in their shitposting.

Like, how the Soviet Union was already tried and failed and that the people advocating for Marxism today would've probably ended up in the Gulags. Powerful stuff and not entirely untrue.
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Himu

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« Reply #12601 on: January 27, 2018, 01:51:46 PM »
Joe Rogan :lol
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Himu

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« Reply #12602 on: January 27, 2018, 01:52:49 PM »
They got a Lump (by The Presidents of the USA) cover song called Trump. The original song is about a brain tumor.


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OMG. So Kekistan is about the fuckery. :lol
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Himu

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« Reply #12603 on: January 27, 2018, 01:56:31 PM »

The best thing about the Kek folks is that there's always a message in their shitposting.

Like, how the Soviet Union was already tried and failed and that the people advocating for Marxism today would've probably ended up in the Gulags. Powerful stuff and not entirely untrue.

:lol :lol

I am actually laughing out loud :lol

They've got the room set up like the house in Imagine and everything. :rofl
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Rufus

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« Reply #12604 on: January 27, 2018, 01:56:33 PM »
They're just taking the piss with people who take themselves way too seriously and think they're somehow above being made fun of. Their attitude is really similar to football hooligans (minus the violence afaik), who will also shock and provoke with no other ulterior motive than "This is gonna piss someone off for sure". 95% of them will grow up and become responsible members of the community, and i don't see how it's gonna be any different with this lot.
Because his impotent anger warped his view on things. I'm beginning to think he likes it that way, because he sees the way, the signs, etc. Still very much think he's gonna calm down, but it's gonna be a while yet, if this doomsaying is any indication.

It’s fucking stupid that I ever have to make the same political argument more than once on this board. There are some real obstinate, illiterate fucks posting here.
Did you know the Soviet Union failed? Powerful stuff.

Himu

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« Reply #12605 on: January 27, 2018, 02:02:31 PM »
Equal-ly starving :rofl

Even if you disagree with them, you gotta admit, this is quality shit. The room losing its color and all the objects disappearing shows an impressive visual. These guys have talent. Can't hate that.
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« Reply #12606 on: January 27, 2018, 02:06:18 PM »
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Nintex

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« Reply #12607 on: January 27, 2018, 02:08:27 PM »
Did you know the Soviet Union failed? Powerful stuff.
Everytime I see some fungus on ResetEra post that capitalism is evil and the root of all problems they're skipping about 40 years of oppressive world history.

But Kekistan and Pepe are more like modern woodstock. Kids lashing out and trying to figure out the world for themselves.
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etiolate

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« Reply #12608 on: January 27, 2018, 02:11:26 PM »
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Here's a Billy Joel parody about traps


Himu

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« Reply #12609 on: January 27, 2018, 02:13:29 PM »
Did you know the Soviet Union failed? Powerful stuff.
Everytime I see some fungus on ResetEra post that capitalism is evil and the root of all problems they're skipping about 40 years of oppressive world history.

To be fair, this doesn't mean capitalism isn't evil. Communism are used in the 20th century was definitely fucked, though. The people who support socialism/communism do so because we think the countries that used communism/socialism in the past abused the citizens' will, used socialism as a cover to say that they're fighting for the people. Like a revolutionary becoming the new tyrant. Our argument is that there has never been a socialist country as Marx wrote about and that the failure of socialism/communism in the 20th century doesn't make the entire political ideology wrong. There's quite a few of us like myself against state socialism/communism because that's exactly the kind of shit that allowed the previous awfulness to happen. Could be wrong, though. I admit that. But a lot of us don't see capitalism as viable after how much it has fucked our generation.
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« Reply #12610 on: January 27, 2018, 02:14:35 PM »
Did you know the Soviet Union failed? Powerful stuff.
Everytime I see some fungus on ResetEra post that capitalism is evil and the root of all problems they're skipping about 40 years of oppressive world history.
No shit. That doesn't make trite retreads of decades old wisdom 'powerful'.

But Kekistan and Pepe are more like modern woodstock. Kids lashing out and trying to figure out the world for themselves.
So is the Social Studies Warrior 'menace', but they're a portend of the end to some.

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Here's some attention for you. Tut, tut.
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Optimus

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12611 on: January 27, 2018, 02:15:16 PM »
They're just taking the piss with people who take themselves way too seriously and think they're somehow above being made fun of. Their attitude is really similar to football hooligans (minus the violence afaik), who will also shock and provoke with no other ulterior motive than "This is gonna piss someone off for sure". 95% of them will grow up and become responsible members of the community, and i don't see how it's gonna be any different with this lot.

Because they've already chosen a side. Because they are and will always be allergic to preachy liberal distinguished mentally-challenged fellows telling them what they're allowed and not allowed to say while spamming them with identity politics. Because that's exactly what happened with millennials when they revolted against the religious right and their moral policing in the 90s and 00s.

Because his impotent anger warped his view on things. I'm beginning to think he likes it that way, because he sees the way, the signs, etc. Still very much think he's gonna calm down, but it's gonna be a while yet, if this doomsaying is any indication.

Just like I and people like me were right about Trump succeeding we'll be right about this too. They might lose the battle in 2020 because Trump is a complete clown but these fuckers will win the war for the next decade or more. Watch and learn.

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« Reply #12612 on: January 27, 2018, 02:18:01 PM »
Just like I and people like me were right about Trump succeeding we'll be right about this too. They might lose the battle in 2020 because Trump is a complete clown but these fuckers will win the war for the next decade or more. Watch and learn.
Watch and learn? The pendulum swing of history is not the revelation you take it for.

HardcoreRetro

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« Reply #12613 on: January 27, 2018, 02:18:56 PM »
The Billy Joel parody got one of my favourite Monty Python jokes. The one where the guys are pretending to be women that are pretending to be men.

Optimus

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« Reply #12614 on: January 27, 2018, 02:24:53 PM »
Just like I and people like me were right about Trump succeeding we'll be right about this too. They might lose the battle in 2020 because Trump is a complete clown but these fuckers will win the war for the next decade or more. Watch and learn.
Watch and learn? The pendulum swing of history is not the revelation you take it for.


The pendulum swings because of authoritarian distinguished mentally-challenged fellows that can't shut. the fuck. up. and have to force society to adhere to their distinguished mentally-challenged standards. Without these imbeciles the left wouldn't have a problem with pendulums swinging. This isn't a fucking game, the rightwingers have destroyed the society of this fucking country with privatizations, wars, corporate shilling, a ruined social safety net, health care and education. Just saying "lol so what, SJ Ws caused the pendulum to swing again, it always does that!" isn't a fucking acceptable answer.

etiolate

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« Reply #12615 on: January 27, 2018, 02:25:25 PM »
Did you know the Soviet Union failed? Powerful stuff.
Everytime I see some fungus on ResetEra post that capitalism is evil and the root of all problems they're skipping about 40 years of oppressive world history.

To be fair, this doesn't mean capitalism isn't evil. Communism are used in the 20th century was definitely fucked, though. The people who support socialism/communism do so because we think the countries that used communism/socialism in the past abused the citizens' will, used socialism as a cover to say that they're fighting for the people. Like a revolutionary becoming the new tyrant. Our argument is that there has never been a socialist country as Marx wrote about and that the failure of socialism/communism in the 20th century doesn't make the entire political ideology wrong. There's quite a few of us like myself against state socialism/communism because that's exactly the kind of shit that allowed the previous awfulness to happen. Could be wrong, though. I admit that. But a lot of us don't see capitalism as viable after how much it has fucked our generation.

People will always abuse the system. That's why you design a system that accounts for that problem.

There are flaws in a capitalist democracy, but it works better than what we've ever had. You can't keep saying "if we just tweak it this time, it will turn out well." That's how the white nationalists think about ethnic separation. Just face that it's a bad idea because we aren't all equal in many ways. You have to account for human nature in your system, not fight against it.

Check this in regards to negative attitudes towards today:


El Babua

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« Reply #12616 on: January 27, 2018, 02:31:07 PM »
y'all lionizing these kekistan dorks :dead

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« Reply #12617 on: January 27, 2018, 02:33:55 PM »
GAF and Reset are so boring now, this thread keeps derailing into politics discussions.
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jorma

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« Reply #12618 on: January 27, 2018, 02:37:49 PM »
They're just taking the piss with people who take themselves way too seriously and think they're somehow above being made fun of. Their attitude is really similar to football hooligans (minus the violence afaik), who will also shock and provoke with no other ulterior motive than "This is gonna piss someone off for sure". 95% of them will grow up and become responsible members of the community, and i don't see how it's gonna be any different with this lot.

Because they've already chosen a side. Because they are and will always be allergic to preachy liberal distinguished mentally-challenged fellows telling them what they're allowed and not allowed to say while spamming them with identity politics. Because that's exactly what happened with millennials when they revolted against the religious right and their moral policing in the 90s and 00s.


I don't see that as a bad thing, really. It's perfectly possible to hate moral high ground preachers and still be a decent human being. In fact, i think it increases the odds.

And yes, i predict the same for most of the SJW side as well. They'll cringe harder than anyone else when they look at their outraged tumbler posts 15 years from now.

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« Reply #12619 on: January 27, 2018, 02:44:27 PM »
It’s fucking stupid that I ever have to make the same political argument more than once on this board. There are some real obstinate, illiterate fucks posting here.


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« Reply #12620 on: January 27, 2018, 02:46:24 PM »
Just saying: I said that Sanders was the only candidate that could (could mind, you, not necessarily would) have beaten now-president Trump. People called me insane, I stated why Clinton was weak.

People said I was insane and knew nothing about how anything worked and I do not know why.

Take that L PoliGAF

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paprikastaude

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« Reply #12621 on: January 27, 2018, 02:46:57 PM »
Modern socialism isn't opposed to capitalism since (at latest) 1917... Marxists already in the beginning of the 20th century recognized that the revolution won't come and that the real goal must be to work out better conditions for people within the realm of capitalism. Then Lenin's forced revolution did its last to completely separate communism from modern social democrats in Europe (which for example Bernie's ideas were basically echoing).

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« Reply #12622 on: January 27, 2018, 02:48:42 PM »
GAF and Reset are so boring now, this thread keeps derailing into politics discussions.

RejectEra is completely incapable of having discussions that don't involve race and gender and it's only from one perspective.  So every thread ends up being the exact same discussion with the exact same people.  So yeah, it's pretty boring.
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etiolate

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« Reply #12623 on: January 27, 2018, 02:54:01 PM »
GAF and Reset are so boring now, this thread keeps derailing into politics discussions.

Reset is boring because it's predictable. I am not sure how many sharks they have left to jump.

etiolate

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« Reply #12624 on: January 27, 2018, 03:02:46 PM »
Did you know the Soviet Union failed? Powerful stuff.
Everytime I see some fungus on ResetEra post that capitalism is evil and the root of all problems they're skipping about 40 years of oppressive world history.
No shit. That doesn't make trite retreads of decades old wisdom 'powerful'.

But Kekistan and Pepe are more like modern woodstock. Kids lashing out and trying to figure out the world for themselves.
So is the Social Studies Warrior 'menace', but they're a portend of the end to some.

Rufus

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Here's some attention for you. Tut, tut.

Except Social Studies Warrior is the majority and the moral enforcement. They are not Woodstock on any level but a shallow, commercial version of it. That group is full of upper-middle to upper class youth. They are the Jamba Juice of empathy.

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« Reply #12625 on: January 27, 2018, 03:12:25 PM »
Far out, man.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12626 on: January 27, 2018, 03:25:27 PM »
Just saying: I said that Sanders was the only candidate that could (could mind, you, not necessarily would) have beaten now-president Trump. People called me insane, I stated why Clinton was weak.

People said I was insane and knew nothing about how anything worked and I do not know why.
Totally agreed. I remember telling people on DailyKos when I still was active there that Bernie is the only one who could beat Trump. He’d almost certainly lose to any other Republican except for the Zodiac Killer though. Hillary was the opposite. She could have beat any republican EXCEPT Trump.

I was still shocked when she lost though. At some point I reluctantly hopped aboard the Hil-Hil train even though I knew deep down it was gonna end in a derailment.

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« Reply #12627 on: January 27, 2018, 03:30:06 PM »
Thoughts on this video everyone?



Like as a socialist I disagree with the video so much but it’s so hilarious I can’t help but like it. It’s so well made. Trump had shit like this on his side. We just had Obama doing mic drops.


The alt-right had and still has fun on their side unlike liberals, every time a side pretends to be the moral police of a nation or society that's when they're screwed. GenZ is already overwhelmingly rightwing thanks to SJ Ws, when they start voting that's when shit will hit the fan. I've been warning liberals since this bullshit started but now it's too late, we're all completely fucked.

I’ve yet to see any evidence of this claim being remotely true even though I have seen it repeated by right-wingers repeatedly. Gen-Z is 2000-2018, so this is the year they’ll come of voting age. The older ones seem fully onboard with the social justice agenda and the younger ones are still too early to tell.

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« Reply #12628 on: January 27, 2018, 03:35:25 PM »
Oh shit guys, I got vERAfied!  :lol

Wait, what?


...


Holy fuck that's actually their version of "bish checked" I thought you were joking :dead

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« Reply #12629 on: January 27, 2018, 03:47:11 PM »
Jack Remington : Out for Justice.
Good luck to you, if only for our entertainment factor.
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Raist

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« Reply #12630 on: January 27, 2018, 03:48:55 PM »
There is no “doubting victims” rule in either the TOS or FAQ pages. The word “victim” does not appear in either one.

Man I can’t wait to PM Rowlf laying out my case. Frankly I should get a formal apology from the mod who issued that ban.

I think you should even make a thread whenever your ban expires.

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« Reply #12631 on: January 27, 2018, 03:55:44 PM »
What's really shocking is how at this point you seem to actually be surprised at the ban. C'mon yo.

Why wouldn’t I be? It’s very clearly an unjust ban, the kind of thing Resetera was supposed to move away from.
We'll definitely push for more warnings and leniency first and foremost. People need to have a chance to understand mistakes before slamming down an auto-banhammer. Common sense should really prevail first and foremost. If someone doesn't get the message once or twice well..

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« Reply #12632 on: January 27, 2018, 03:58:22 PM »
Only now just realized that Head of Marketing & PR at @wushustudios Shinobi602 used "first and foremost" twice.


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« Reply #12634 on: January 27, 2018, 04:00:12 PM »
There is no “doubting victims” rule in either the TOS or FAQ pages. The word “victim” does not appear in either one.

Man I can’t wait to PM Rowlf laying out my case. Frankly I should get a formal apology from the mod who issued that ban.

I think you should even make a thread whenever your ban expires.


benjipwns

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« Reply #12635 on: January 27, 2018, 04:06:24 PM »
The alt-right had and still has fun on their side unlike liberals, every time a side pretends to be the moral police of a nation or society that's when they're screwed. GenZ is already overwhelmingly rightwing thanks to SJ Ws, when they start voting that's when shit will hit the fan. I've been warning liberals since this bullshit started but now it's too late, we're all completely fucked.
Because they've already chosen a side. Because they are and will always be allergic to preachy liberal distinguished mentally-challenged fellows telling them what they're allowed and not allowed to say while spamming them with identity politics. Because that's exactly what happened with millennials when they revolted against the religious right and their moral policing in the 90s and 00s.

Just like I and people like me were right about Trump succeeding we'll be right about this too. They might lose the battle in 2020 because Trump is a complete clown but these fuckers will win the war for the next decade or more. Watch and learn.
The pendulum swings because of authoritarian distinguished mentally-challenged fellows that can't shut. the fuck. up. and have to force society to adhere to their distinguished mentally-challenged standards. Without these imbeciles the left wouldn't have a problem with pendulums swinging. This isn't a fucking game, the rightwingers have destroyed the society of this fucking country with privatizations, wars, corporate shilling, a ruined social safety net, health care and education. Just saying "lol so what, SJ Ws caused the pendulum to swing again, it always does that!" isn't a fucking acceptable answer.
:badass watch out for all the marxist historiography and dialectical materialism getting dropped all over the thread

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« Reply #12636 on: January 27, 2018, 04:24:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/957271910731087872
https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/957276821476790273

Surely in that case, if the "big 30" is really looming, the "best birthday gift ever" would be losing his virginity?
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« Reply #12637 on: January 27, 2018, 04:39:05 PM »
Hey, engaging with the mods privately always worked for me!

Can confirm. I have messaged a forum moderator privately exactly one time in 12 years. I sent a pm to evillore and asked him why bish had banned two people just for disputing that a comedy show was a nazi comedy show. He answered and told me he'd look into it and i obviously thought "sure you will".
The very next day, bish was purged.

100% successrate so far.

so it’s your fault those people never got their kickstarter dinosaur coloring books?  :doge

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« Reply #12638 on: January 27, 2018, 04:59:34 PM »
Hey, engaging with the mods privately always worked for me!

Can confirm. I have messaged a forum moderator privately exactly one time in 12 years. I sent a pm to evillore and asked him why bish had banned two people just for disputing that a comedy show was a nazi comedy show. He answered and told me he'd look into it and i obviously thought "sure you will".
The very next day, bish was purged.

100% successrate so far.

so it’s your fault those people never got their kickstarter dinosaur coloring books?  :doge

wait what? The book is out, isn't it?

Anyway, i like to think it was my pm that started the whole chain of events. That is my truth, the most powerful truth of them all!  :lol

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« Reply #12639 on: January 27, 2018, 05:01:30 PM »


:ohhh

Optimus

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« Reply #12640 on: January 27, 2018, 05:02:34 PM »

I’ve yet to see any evidence of this claim being remotely true even though I have seen it repeated by right-wingers repeatedly. Gen-Z is 2000-2018, so this is the year they’ll come of voting age. The older ones seem fully onboard with the social justice agenda and the younger ones are still too early to tell.

I've seen even more pessimistic studies but this is what I could find from a quick google search:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#41d45087878c

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According to research, Gen Z is more individualistic, more conservative both socially and fiscally, and they’re already making waves of impact on our political system. Gen Z, those born in 1995 or later, is possibly the most conservative generation since World War II, and it is worrying that their impact has been completely overlooked during this election. While our fears might be preemptive, we should not make the mistake of disregarding the intriguing yet also possibly worrying world views of Generation Z.

Oftentimes Millennials have been criticized for being notoriously liberal, but it looks like the generation right behind us has completely rebelled. A U.K. Study at The Gild did a survey of almost 2,000 adults and found that on issues like gay marriage, marijuana legalization, transgender rights, and even tattoos, 59% of Gen Z respondents described their views as ‘conservative’ and ‘moderate’.

This is a radical change from 83% Millennials and 85% of Gen X who state that their views are ‘quite’ or ‘very liberal’ on those same issues. What’s worrying is that given their more conservative leanings, Gen Z was not taken into account during this election, even though for many of them it was their first. Younger generations are famous for being liberal, therefore we mistakenly assumed that Gen Z would vote Democratic. But studies show that Gen Z’s views closely resemble those of Libertarian or Moderate Republicans, and that they related with Donald Trump on issues like national security and job creation.


Notice the ginormous shift between millennials and genz and then take into account that usually people when they grow up they tend to become more cynical and conservative. So you guys keep joking and keep dismissing the obvious trends, I'm sure everything will be fine.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2018, 05:09:21 PM by Optimus »

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« Reply #12641 on: January 27, 2018, 05:12:58 PM »

I’ve yet to see any evidence of this claim being remotely true even though I have seen it repeated by right-wingers repeatedly. Gen-Z is 2000-2018, so this is the year they’ll come of voting age. The older ones seem fully onboard with the social justice agenda and the younger ones are still too early to tell.

I've seen even more pessimistic studies but this is what I could find from a quick google search:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#41d45087878c

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According to research, Gen Z is more individualistic, more conservative both socially and fiscally, and they’re already making waves of impact on our political system. Gen Z, those born in 1995 or later, is possibly the most conservative generation since World War II, and it is worrying that their impact has been completely overlooked during this election. While our fears might be preemptive, we should not make the mistake of disregarding the intriguing yet also possibly worrying world views of Generation Z.

Oftentimes Millennials have been criticized for being notoriously liberal, but it looks like the generation right behind us has completely rebelled. A U.K. Study at The Gild did a survey of almost 2,000 adults and found that on issues like gay marriage, marijuana legalization, transgender rights, and even tattoos, 59% of Gen Z respondents described their views as ‘conservative’ and ‘moderate’.
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This is a radical change from 83% Millennials and 85% of Gen X who state that their views are ‘quite’ or ‘very liberal’ on those same issues. What’s worrying is that given their more conservative leanings, Gen Z was not taken into account during this election, even though for many of them it was their first. Younger generations are famous for being liberal, therefore we mistakenly assumed that Gen Z would vote Democratic. But studies show that Gen Z’s views closely resemble those of Libertarian or Moderate Republicans, and that they related with Donald Trump on issues like national security and job creation.


Notice the ginormous shift between millennials and genz and then take into account that usually people when they grow up they tend to become more cynical and conservative. So keep joking people and keep dismissing the obvious trends, I'm sure everything will be fine.




Optimus

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12642 on: January 27, 2018, 05:17:37 PM »
Yeap, exactly.

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« Reply #12643 on: January 27, 2018, 05:19:23 PM »
So what I get from the last couple pages is 4chan is now filled with a bunch of shitty Weird Al wannabes? And that sloptimus is still so fucking dumb that he's just quoting random blogs cuz they have the Forbes url :lol

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« Reply #12644 on: January 27, 2018, 05:24:11 PM »
So what I get from the last couple pages is 4chan is now filled with a bunch of shitty Weird Al wannabes? And that sloptimus is still so fucking dumb that he's just quoting random blogs cuz they have the Forbes url :lol

The article is quoting actual studies you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

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« Reply #12645 on: January 27, 2018, 05:28:04 PM »
So what I get from the last couple pages is 4chan is now filled with a bunch of shitty Weird Al wannabes? And that sloptimus is still so fucking dumb that he's just quoting random blogs cuz they have the Forbes url :lol

The article is quoting actual studies you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
The Gild is a marketing firm, you absolute cretin.

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« Reply #12646 on: January 27, 2018, 05:29:24 PM »
Which you clearly didn't read, unless you think a marketing study (which concludes that generational labels are more or less meaningless) that blankets 'transgender issues, tattoos, and marijuana legalization' of with a sample size of 2000 from the UK is at all reflective of the future of American politics, which you probably do, because you're a fucking moron

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« Reply #12647 on: January 27, 2018, 05:36:41 PM »
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on issues like gay marriage, marijuana legalization, transgender rights, and even tattoos, 59% of Gen Z respondents described their views as ‘conservative’ and ‘moderate’
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But studies show that Gen Z’s views closely resemble those of Libertarian or Moderate Republicans, and that they related with Donald Trump on issues like national security
i like things with words

even better are when they're defined because like you're not allowed to describe your own views as "moderate" or "centrist" ya dopes

and stop trying to collectivize generations that you can't even agree on the terms of:
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According to research, Gen Z is more individualistic [than Millennials], more conservative both socially and fiscally, and they’re already making waves of impact on our political system. Gen Z, those born in 1995 or later
error error arbitrary date selection
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demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years for Millennials
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demographers and researchers typically use the mid-1990s to mid-2000s as starting birth years for Generation Z
I remember when generations were defined as being somewhere around 20-30 years long by demographers, not potentially ten years long because marketing research is desperate at finding new ways to label the same age groups as if they were a homogeneous collective.

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« Reply #12648 on: January 27, 2018, 05:37:59 PM »
Ashley Stahl coaches job seekers to find their purpose and land more job offers. She also runs CAKE Publishing, a ghostwriting house that helps influencers create content.

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« Reply #12649 on: January 27, 2018, 05:38:32 PM »
Which you clearly didn't read, unless you think a marketing study (which concludes that generational labels are more or less meaningless) that blankets 'transgender issues, tattoos, and marijuana legalization' of with a sample size of 2000 from the UK is at all reflective of the future of American politics, which you probably do, because you're a fucking moron

Touche, fucking google screwed me this time. But I've seen studies with similar results a couple of years ago and you can see this shit everywhere, from reddit and meme subs teens frequent to youtube. Whatever, keep safe in your liberal bubble, I'm sure everything will be fine.

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« Reply #12650 on: January 27, 2018, 05:40:33 PM »
FWIW the study in question defined Gen Z as 2001 and later, which makes this argument even more distinguished mentally-challenged.

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« Reply #12651 on: January 27, 2018, 05:42:03 PM »
"I'm too dumb to read or do a super easy google search and I completely buy into things that fit the worldview I subscribe to without question. YouTube and Reddit tell me teenagers are into tucker carlson now and I believe them. Good luck in your liberal bubble." :lol the self-owns of etoiletites here are priceless

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« Reply #12652 on: January 27, 2018, 05:49:18 PM »
Slayven warned me for arguing in bad faith.

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« Reply #12653 on: January 27, 2018, 05:49:44 PM »
*Reads era*

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-it-seems-like-populist-right-keeps-winning-in-europe-czech-elections.19305/page-2#post-3835805
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- The ambiguity and denial of climate change, something that provoked Syrian rebellion and retaliation, among myriad others
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« Reply #12654 on: January 27, 2018, 05:50:42 PM »
I would not be surprised to find the incoming generation to be more libertarian or conservative friendly than the previous gen.  The s j w ism is the uptight moral force that creates rebellion.

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« Reply #12655 on: January 27, 2018, 05:51:16 PM »
I like that blowback theory still isn't acceptable within conservative/Republican/Moderate Darling™ foreign policy circles (even despite Trump (and Carson and Paul to mention two other brief primary poll leaders) all but endorsing it) while at the same time is seemingly the definitive theory for why Hillary Clinton lost the election (not due to incredibly poor strategery built from an internally constructed reinforcing hubris*) between the collectively oldest candidates in American history because memes and youtubes. Not you know, a model predicated on fitting a pre-existing held view of the kultur war.

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Despite the fact that the primary tipping point that broke The Blue Wall appeared to be centered more on a shift within white women of Generation Y-Millennials that was made outsized by a corresponding drop in turnout among younger blacks.
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« Reply #12656 on: January 27, 2018, 05:53:33 PM »
FWIW the study in question defined Gen Z as 2001 and later, which makes this argument even more distinguished mentally-challenged.
Wow, 15 year olds voting for Trump and yet Democrats still don't want Voter ID to stop these GOPers from voting illegally?!?

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« Reply #12657 on: January 27, 2018, 05:54:11 PM »
Which you clearly didn't read, unless you think a marketing study (which concludes that generational labels are more or less meaningless) that blankets 'transgender issues, tattoos, and marijuana legalization' of with a sample size of 2000 from the UK is at all reflective of the future of American politics, which you probably do, because you're a fucking moron

Touche, fucking google screwed me this time. But I've seen studies with similar results a couple of years ago and you can see this shit everywhere, from reddit and meme subs teens frequent to youtube. Whatever, keep safe in your liberal bubble, I'm sure everything will be fine.


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« Reply #12658 on: January 27, 2018, 05:58:48 PM »
I think its misguided to not recognize generations. It's also naive to think all years for generations are arbitrary.

That Millienials grew up pretty much after the fall of Communist power and had no Soviet Power in their lifetime matters, as does terrorism born from the middle east being a defining tragedy and issue. Socialist leanings without a threat from one plus the psychological impact of terrorism equals Social Studies Warrior.

So decade-based years of birth may not matter, but the historical events and atmosphere of their development do.

(along with social media and computer tech being abundant)

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« Reply #12659 on: January 27, 2018, 06:13:22 PM »
Thoughts on this video everyone?



Like as a socialist I disagree with the video so much but it’s so hilarious I can’t help but like it. It’s so well made. Trump had shit like this on his side. We just had Obama doing mic drops.
This video is one of the best. The reason you don't have this level on your side is because centrist white males tend to be the most creative of the bunch  :ryker