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Raist

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12840 on: January 28, 2018, 07:05:04 PM »
PC/Bone AFAIK. No idea on release date.

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« Reply #12841 on: January 28, 2018, 07:05:35 PM »
That thread now has a whole debate on stick figures :dead
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Yeah, exactly. People know immediately "that's a dude" when you put it in a restroom sign, yet when it's used anywhere else it's "default genderless stickman" (and if you point this out, let alone try to change it, you're being "irrational"). Male normalization at its finest.

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If you see a woman on the left, and an indefinite-gender character on the right, congratulations, society has successfully conditioned you to see male as "default".

Can't make this shit up :lol

WAT

600 years ago in a pub in 'ol England

"Fuck me mate, I'm drunk as fuck I"m gonna go weeee"
"WWooaahah bloody hell man, this is the ladies room!"

"Gee fella's maybe we should put a sign up there, so we see where ladies and mensies sit eh?"
"Yeah, seems like a sensible thing to do, less messy that-a-way"
"Oy, good ol george!"


ERA 600 years later:
- Stick figures on mah toilet is THE FACE OF WHITE MALE SUPREMACY

 :rejoice

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« Reply #12842 on: January 28, 2018, 07:06:16 PM »

Plus cinematic platformer? The good kind (ex: Another World) or the kusoge kind (Limbo)?


Another world / Flashback are inspirations, apparently. Not that it means it will be good obv.

Oh good. Glad it’s not inspired by that shit game Limbo.

I’ll buy it. When does it come out? Will it be on ps4?

"Launch exclusive" on xbox and pc and then likely on Ps4 some time later

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« Reply #12843 on: January 28, 2018, 07:06:46 PM »
Pc? I prolly can’t run that shit. RIP.
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Raist

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« Reply #12844 on: January 28, 2018, 07:07:33 PM »
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My point is that stick figures that people think to be "genderless" are clearly male, and this is just one of the myriad examples of male defaulting and female erasure in society. Beyond this, I can't make you understand why visibility matters; you'll have to start that journey of discovery yourself.

I can't :dead

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« Reply #12845 on: January 28, 2018, 07:09:09 PM »
I hate the term launch exclusive. Premiere or premiering on _______makes so much more sense.

Sega was ahead of its time on that one.

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« Reply #12846 on: January 28, 2018, 07:10:25 PM »
omg who wrote that


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HaughtyFrank

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« Reply #12849 on: January 28, 2018, 07:19:23 PM »
He's quoting his own post in a different thread :dead

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-read-op.4483/page-232#post-3858982
I don't even know what point he's making. If a city were to put up stickfigures with tits I can guarantee you that feminists would lose their shit

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« Reply #12850 on: January 28, 2018, 07:22:13 PM »
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To people wondering why we're talking about a comic about toy robots in a gender social issues thread, let me point you towards the fact that there are three, incredibly tenderly depicted gay couples (two male-male, one female-female) among the main cast alone (plus various pivotal ones in the backstory) and in the latter one's case, both are explicitly transgendered. In fact gay relationships (up to and including weddings called Conjunx Endurae, which is basically canis latinicus for Enduring Spouses) have been the standard in Cybertron for millions of years, as there were no female Transformers there until contact with the colonies was restabilished.

And the comic doesn't shy from depicting toxic relationships and dynamics, either...

I think I found my new favourite poster.

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« Reply #12851 on: January 28, 2018, 07:24:32 PM »
I said it somewhere else but I do have some passing Internet familiarity with Tim Soret before he was Tim Soret, designer of The Last Night. A bit with his online persona and certainly with the context and community (a videogame splinter forum much like the Bore, really, occasional edginess included) I read him in. I wouldn't claim to know the guy well by any means but I certainly believe him when he said he voted for far left Mélenchon last election. Which doesn't automatically mean he has good opinions on everything but GAFERA depiction seems comically overblown (it's not like they themselves are immune to some conservative tendencies sometimes). He was often ribbed, IIRC, for being the quintessential Parisian gentrified left leaning urban elite.

I think benjipwns kinda nailed that one last time when he suspected there was some severe cultural misunderstanding at work here.

Also Soret has been committed to making aesthetic, story driven platformer for a bit now (I believe he was a big fan of Brothers : A tale of Two Sons or a similar title around that time) and he had to endure quite a bit of light-hearted banter. It's cool he managed to make it in the end.

Edit : And yeah obviously, Another World and Flashback are pretty significant over here as you would expect.
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« Reply #12852 on: January 28, 2018, 07:35:38 PM »
Highstone
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damn I've been seeing a lot of alt account bans for a site that's only 3 months old :heh

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« Reply #12853 on: January 28, 2018, 07:37:52 PM »
Grey's Anatomy is pretty terrible, or is this how it is working in a hospital?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/greys-anatomy-is-pretty-terrible-or-is-this-how-it-is-working-in-a-hospital.19493/

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btw I am a huge fan of House M.D, so I thought I will give this a try. But its nothing like House. everyone in the hospital are sleeping with each other.

It's not Lupus and everyone slept around with each other on House too.

House and Cuddy
House and Warner
Houee and Cameron tried but failed
Foreman and Thirteen
Wilson and the Blonde who wanted to be on Houses staff
Chase and Cameron
Kutner tried to hit on everything in a white lab coat but was molded out of the average Reeeeeset poster.

Missed a bunch but it has been years since I have seen an episode. 


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« Reply #12854 on: January 28, 2018, 08:02:29 PM »
According to swedish stats, 24% of doctors are together with other doctors, and 7% are together with nurses. Beating out cops who take the second place at 15%.

So the reality seems to be even "worse" than the tv-shows.

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« Reply #12855 on: January 28, 2018, 08:21:17 PM »
In terms of Soret's stance on Feminism. It doesn't necessarily mean he is an MRA. That is another thing I can't stand. This idea that if you are against one thing you must be automatically in favour of the other. No, you may not be in favour of either. And that is actually my stance. I think we need to move past looking at issues through the gendered lens. We need to start looking at issues from the perspective of both men and women.

In terms of my issues with modern day feminism: First of all, it is a political ideology. There is that little trick that feminists like to pull which is, if you are for the equality of the sexes, you're a feminist. No, if I reamin skeptical about rape culture, or the wage gap; if I believe patriarchy theory isn't an adequate way of viewing society in the West, or that men and women are not simply a blank slate that are programmed to view themselves as male or female, many feminists would deny I am a true feminist. It is not the notion that men and women should have equal opportunities I take issue with, it is looking at society and culture through the lens of feminist theory I take issue with. It has a philosophical and theoretical foundation; it has a worldview. It promotes a radical restructuring of society (smash the patriacrhy). It is a political ideology, and like every other political ideology, it should be fair game to criticise it.

It is authoritarian, it is for censorship, it is anti-free speech. There is very noticeable push back against Enlightenment values. Ironically, it has embraced victimhood. Where as early feminism pushed the view that women can be every bit as capable as men, modern feminism promotes the idea that women are fragile and weak and need to be protected. Campaigns to ban advertisement because if a woman walks past an advertisment of a thin woman in a bikini she will be scarred by it. Constant interfering in students sex lives, because a woman couldn't possibly be able to negotiate her own sex life by herself. Feminism is infantalising women and demonising men. Men need consent classes to be taught not to rape. We need to clamp down on 'lad banter'.

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« Reply #12856 on: January 28, 2018, 08:32:32 PM »
 :boring

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« Reply #12857 on: January 28, 2018, 08:35:29 PM »
Real quick, is there any footage of The Last Night outside of the trailer? There's a video on YouTube from four years ago when it still looked like ass but I haven't seen any actual gameplay since the E3 reveal

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« Reply #12858 on: January 28, 2018, 08:54:44 PM »
ERAmods OK with doxxing now?  :wag

https://www.resetera.com/posts/3871871/


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« Reply #12860 on: January 28, 2018, 10:06:25 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/postmodernism-did-not-take-place-on-jordan-peterson%E2%80%99s-12-rules-for-life.19479/

:lol another Peterson 2 minute hate

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But Peterson is not the only ideologue to elide the distinction between these usually opposed frameworks

I like the way this article frames Peterson as an ideologue.

And well...
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3867339/
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Man, maybe I'm just tired but I didn't understand a word of that. Can anyone dumb it down? I don't get how it went from postmodernism to Jews.

Other than that it goes on about how peterson doesn't quite get Postmodernism. No one gets Postmodernism. You've got award winning physicists that don't get Postmodernism... Never has there been a philosophy where 'obscurantism' is most fitting.

That said, I don't actually like the way Peterson refers to the 'problem' as the postmodernist/neo-marxists. He leaves himself open to such attacks. The influence of postmodernism in the humanities and areas of social science is a problem. One that has been criticised by numerous people. And I think it is fine for Peterson to criticise it. The way he presents it though is like a secret 'cabal'. I think there is an element of truth in that, to the extent that radical leftist views are beginning to dominate institutions, and as a result are beginning to drip down into business and the entertainment industry. He probably would be better off if he framed it better.

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« Reply #12861 on: January 28, 2018, 10:13:26 PM »
I posted before and I listened to the Peterson stuff recently. I don't agree with many of his conclusions, but what's funny about all these thread is that posters go in and basically accept the narrative of him being some alt right figure without looking at primary sources, his own content.  Dude has hundreds hours of videos on YT, yet the first poster basically accept Golden Pigeon's assessment as gospel. 

Additionally, they call Peterson's work pseudoscience, yet the theories they accept are just as subjective!  That's why they're discussed.  There is no empirical consensus.

Same with the recent NYT hate threads.  There's no discussion there. It's just push a narrative and agree.  And the funny thing, everyone just falls in line and agrees.  There's a lack of curiosity and inquiry in these internet bubbles.  Like I said before, I don't agree with a lot of Peterson's stuff, but he's at least putting his stuff out there for discussion and debate.  But you see the same tactics used--strawmanning, ad hominem, etc. The Cathy Newman interview personified as default behavior.

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« Reply #12862 on: January 28, 2018, 10:22:42 PM »
Fall in line, citizens. Fuck you for coming to your own conclusions. Fuck you having the audacity to disagree. Fuck you for not falling in line with the ideology. You don’t like Antifa? Then you must being siding with the fucking Nazi’s. You don’t like modern feminism? How dare you. Then you must be a sexist pig or a slave of a woman driven by self hatred.

Pick up that fucking can.

What happened? How did we get like this?
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« Reply #12863 on: January 28, 2018, 10:23:28 PM »
I posted before and I listened to the Peterson stuff recently. I don't agree with many of his conclusions, but what's funny about all these thread is that posters go in and basically accept the narrative of him being some alt right figure without looking at primary sources, his own content.  Dude has hundreds hours of videos on YT, yet the first poster basically accept Golden Pigeon's assessment as gospel. 

Additionally, they call Peterson's work pseudoscience, yet the theories they accept are just as subjective!  That's why they're discussed.  There is no empirical consensus.

Same with the recent NYT hate threads.  There's no discussion there. It's just push a narrative and agree.  And the funny thing, everyone just falls in line and agrees.  There's a lack of curiosity and inquiry in these internet bubbles.  Like I said before, I don't agree with a lot of Peterson's stuff, but he's at least putting his stuff out there for discussion and debate.  But you see the same tactics used--strawmanning, ad hominem, etc. The Cathy Newman interview personified as default behavior.

Look at it another way: what field would you trust more to be objective or empirical in its methods when it comes to human behaviour, Psychology or Gender Studies?

Personally I would take Psychology every time. Gender Studies is too ideologically weighted.

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« Reply #12864 on: January 28, 2018, 10:25:56 PM »
We should put dicks on male stick figures.

agrajag

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« Reply #12865 on: January 28, 2018, 10:26:47 PM »
I have no horse in the race, and not really interested in Peterson's stuff. But from what I've seen he seems like a decent dude. Whether you agree with his views/conclusions or not, it's kind of silly to paint him as a paragon of alt-right and Nazi villainy. But then again the chaps on Reeeeeetard Era are silly, almost militantly so at times.

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« Reply #12866 on: January 28, 2018, 10:32:22 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/postmodernism-did-not-take-place-on-jordan-peterson%E2%80%99s-12-rules-for-life.19479/

:lol another Peterson 2 minute hate

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But Peterson is not the only ideologue to elide the distinction between these usually opposed frameworks
Other than that it goes on about how peterson doesn't quite get Postmodernism. No one gets Postmodernism. You've got award winning physicists that don't get Postmodernism... Never has there been a philosophy where 'obscurantism' is most fitting.

Wow a specialist in the sciences doesn't understand a concept from the humanities. Almost as if the sciences and the humanities have virtually no knowledge or understanding of each other and are basically separate spheres in the academy, and you have to actually engage with an idea to grasp it. You could start by reading the article in that Reset thread, which is actually a pretty decent introduction to the philosophies Peterson calls postmodernism.

Look at it another way: what field would you trust more to be objective or empirical in its methods when it comes to human behaviour, Psychology or Gender Studies?

Personally I would take Psychology every time. Gender Studies is too ideologically weighted.


yeah jungians are really relevant to the latest going-ons in the study of human behavior

etiolate

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« Reply #12867 on: January 28, 2018, 10:32:32 PM »
We should put dicks on male stick figures.

Transphobic





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« Reply #12868 on: January 28, 2018, 10:34:45 PM »
Look at it another way: what field would you trust more to be objective or empirical in its methods when it comes to human behaviour, Psychology or Gender Studies?

Do you want to take a bite of a sandwich someone has shit in, or take a bite of a sandwich two people have shit in?

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« Reply #12869 on: January 28, 2018, 10:35:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/postmodernism-did-not-take-place-on-jordan-peterson%E2%80%99s-12-rules-for-life.19479/

:lol another Peterson 2 minute hate

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But Peterson is not the only ideologue to elide the distinction between these usually opposed frameworks
Other than that it goes on about how peterson doesn't quite get Postmodernism. No one gets Postmodernism. You've got award winning physicists that don't get Postmodernism... Never has there been a philosophy where 'obscurantism' is most fitting.

Wow a specialist in the sciences doesn't understand a concept from the humanities. Almost as if the sciences and the humanities have virtually no knowledge or understanding of each other and are basically separate spheres in the academy, and you have to actually engage with an idea to grasp it. You could start by reading the article in that Reset thread, which is actually a pretty decent introduction to the philosophies Peterson calls postmodernism.

This is the opening of the article:

A specter is haunting North America — the specter of postmodernism. Or at least, that’s what Jordan Peterson would have you believe. Peterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, has entered into an unholy alliance with all the powers of the alt-right to exorcise this specter.


I'm not finishing an article that opens with such a lie. Maybe when I'm bored tomorrow morning. But I imagine any article that starts of with an ad hominem will continue to ad honinem.

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« Reply #12870 on: January 28, 2018, 10:36:33 PM »
I have no horse in the race, and not really interested in Peterson's stuff. But from what I've seen he seems like a decent dude. Whether you agree with his views/conclusions or not, it's kind of silly to paint him as a paragon of alt-right and Nazi villainy. But then again the chaps on Reeeeeetard Era are silly, almost militantly so at times.
I don't think there's nothing wrong with outright disagreeing with everything he says.  The issue seems that anything his name is brought up on RE, the majority of the posters move on to name calling instead of addressing his arguments. 

Peterson himself actually brings up interesting discussion points, but it's rather wasted on ERA.  Even the current thread is mostly focused on the fact that he associates with Ben Shapiro--a conservative Jew who is somehow alt right lol.

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« Reply #12871 on: January 28, 2018, 10:36:50 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/postmodernism-did-not-take-place-on-jordan-peterson%E2%80%99s-12-rules-for-life.19479/

:lol another Peterson 2 minute hate

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But Peterson is not the only ideologue to elide the distinction between these usually opposed frameworks
Other than that it goes on about how peterson doesn't quite get Postmodernism. No one gets Postmodernism. You've got award winning physicists that don't get Postmodernism... Never has there been a philosophy where 'obscurantism' is most fitting.

Wow a specialist in the sciences doesn't understand a concept from the humanities. Almost as if the sciences and the humanities have virtually no knowledge or understanding of each other and are basically separate spheres in the academy, and you have to actually engage with an idea to grasp it. You could start by reading the article in that Reset thread, which is actually a pretty decent introduction to the philosophies Peterson calls postmodernism.

This is the opening of the article:

A specter is haunting North America — the specter of postmodernism. Or at least, that’s what Jordan Peterson would have you believe. Peterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, has entered into an unholy alliance with all the powers of the alt-right to exorcise this specter.


I'm not finishing an article that opens with such a lie. Maybe when I'm bored tomorrow morning. But I imagine any article that starts of with an ad hominem will continue to ad honinem.

Huh it's almost like you're looking for an excuse not to engage with views that threaten your own. How resetera of you

agrajag

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« Reply #12872 on: January 28, 2018, 10:40:36 PM »
Most of the stuff I've seen of Peterson is some self-help stuff for young men or something. He doesn't seem malicious. I agree there isn't anything wrong with disagreeing with him. Like I said, this doesn't really spark my interest. But it's cringey how quick they are to villify someone.

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« Reply #12873 on: January 28, 2018, 10:43:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/postmodernism-did-not-take-place-on-jordan-peterson%E2%80%99s-12-rules-for-life.19479/

:lol another Peterson 2 minute hate

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But Peterson is not the only ideologue to elide the distinction between these usually opposed frameworks
Other than that it goes on about how peterson doesn't quite get Postmodernism. No one gets Postmodernism. You've got award winning physicists that don't get Postmodernism... Never has there been a philosophy where 'obscurantism' is most fitting.

Wow a specialist in the sciences doesn't understand a concept from the humanities. Almost as if the sciences and the humanities have virtually no knowledge or understanding of each other and are basically separate spheres in the academy, and you have to actually engage with an idea to grasp it. You could start by reading the article in that Reset thread, which is actually a pretty decent introduction to the philosophies Peterson calls postmodernism.

There are parts of 'postmodernism' that are easier to get. It also depends on what you read. Yet, a lot of it is simply impenetrable by outsiders. The way you're talking about it, you'd think it was just a matter of people in the hard sciences not being knowledgeable in philosophy in general. This is not the case. This is a specific problem with postmodernism, it has nothing to do with philosophy in general.

In fact Daniel Dennett knows one or two things about philosophy. Why not let him tell you what he thinks.


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« Reply #12874 on: January 28, 2018, 10:43:54 PM »
About that stick figure business. How does that dude envision signifying female stick figures? Does he want a dress like in the bathroom sign stick figure? Wouldn't that too be problematic?  :doge

agrajag

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« Reply #12875 on: January 28, 2018, 10:46:02 PM »
Why is G.R.R. Martin wasting time on post-modernism critiques when he has Winds of Winter to finish  ???

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« Reply #12876 on: January 28, 2018, 10:46:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/postmodernism-did-not-take-place-on-jordan-peterson%E2%80%99s-12-rules-for-life.19479/

:lol another Peterson 2 minute hate

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But Peterson is not the only ideologue to elide the distinction between these usually opposed frameworks
Other than that it goes on about how peterson doesn't quite get Postmodernism. No one gets Postmodernism. You've got award winning physicists that don't get Postmodernism... Never has there been a philosophy where 'obscurantism' is most fitting.

Wow a specialist in the sciences doesn't understand a concept from the humanities. Almost as if the sciences and the humanities have virtually no knowledge or understanding of each other and are basically separate spheres in the academy, and you have to actually engage with an idea to grasp it. You could start by reading the article in that Reset thread, which is actually a pretty decent introduction to the philosophies Peterson calls postmodernism.

This is the opening of the article:

A specter is haunting North America — the specter of postmodernism. Or at least, that’s what Jordan Peterson would have you believe. Peterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, has entered into an unholy alliance with all the powers of the alt-right to exorcise this specter.


I'm not finishing an article that opens with such a lie. Maybe when I'm bored tomorrow morning. But I imagine any article that starts of with an ad hominem will continue to ad honinem.

Huh it's almost like you're looking for an excuse not to engage with views that threaten your own. How resetera of you

Except I studied Derrida and Foucalt before anyone ever heard of Peterson or heard him bring them up in regards to postmodernism.

I don't like the lie and the personal attack. It screams "this is not a strong paper".


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« Reply #12877 on: January 28, 2018, 10:48:35 PM »
yeah jungians are really relevant to the latest going-ons in the study of human behavior


Well, I'm not talking Jungians specifically. I'm talking Psychology in terms of its methods and body of work in general.

Sure, peterson's psychology of religion based on Jungian archetypes, sure. However in terms of the literature, there is no comparison to me.

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« Reply #12878 on: January 28, 2018, 10:51:19 PM »
The last night stuff is entertaining.

"We need more political messages in gaming!!....not like that!"
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« Reply #12879 on: January 28, 2018, 10:56:39 PM »
America needs to get used to gender neutral bathrooms already, and stop trying to solve gender issues with fucking stick figures.

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« Reply #12880 on: January 28, 2018, 11:00:14 PM »
You shut up. What if I like fucking stick figures?!
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« Reply #12881 on: January 28, 2018, 11:03:01 PM »
You shut up. What if I like fucking stick figures?!


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« Reply #12882 on: January 28, 2018, 11:11:46 PM »

In fact Daniel Dennett knows one or two things about philosophy. Why not let him tell you what he thinks.



Yes, analytical philosophers don't like continental philosophers. I know.

Also writing is such an infinitely superior medium for this stuff than youtube videos. 10 minutes for ideas you could fit into a paragraph (this is probably the main reason I hate Peterson, I'm not watching a two hour youtube video you fucking terrorist).

Except I studied Derrida and Foucalt before anyone ever heard of Peterson or heard him bring them up in regards to postmodernism.
Damn dude I didn't know you read them in the original wikipedia article, respect
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I don't like the lie and the personal attack. It screams "this is not a strong paper".
You saying this is just too much :lol and the scholarly pretension to boot :lol :lol :lol Show yourself in the politics thread you coward

Himu

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12883 on: January 28, 2018, 11:17:33 PM »
The last night stuff is entertaining.

"We need more political messages in gaming!!....not like that!"

Said the same thing
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12884 on: January 28, 2018, 11:26:23 PM »
The last night stuff is entertaining.

"We need more political messages in gaming!!....not like that!"

Said the same thing

I mean nobody is saying that as far as I've seen. The dude's completely allowed to have his game with his message. We're free to tell him fuck off and not buy it. He's not being censored or anything
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12885 on: January 28, 2018, 11:30:10 PM »
I had to do a paper on a Foucault essay in college once. That's the only thing I've read and I wanted to blow my brains out.


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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12887 on: January 28, 2018, 11:54:10 PM »

In fact Daniel Dennett knows one or two things about philosophy. Why not let him tell you what he thinks.



Yes, analytical philosophers don't like continental philosophers. I know.

Also writing is such an infinitely superior medium for this stuff than youtube videos. 10 minutes for ideas you could fit into a paragraph (this is probably the main reason I hate Peterson, I'm not watching a two hour youtube video you fucking terrorist).

Except I studied Derrida and Foucalt before anyone ever heard of Peterson or heard him bring them up in regards to postmodernism.
Damn dude I didn't know you read them in the original wikipedia article, respect
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I don't like the lie and the personal attack. It screams "this is not a strong paper".
You saying this is just too much :lol and the scholarly pretension to boot :lol :lol :lol Show yourself in the politics thread you coward

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32802.msg1132628#msg1132628
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=24400.msg1120813#msg1120813

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12888 on: January 29, 2018, 12:05:55 AM »
answer mandark's question binch :bolo

etiolate

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12889 on: January 29, 2018, 12:09:45 AM »
I did. His question isn't genuine.

Now hold your L little buddy. Hug it tight.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12890 on: January 29, 2018, 12:18:10 AM »
The last night stuff is entertaining.

"We need more political messages in gaming!!....not like that!"

Said the same thing

I mean nobody is saying that as far as I've seen. The dude's completely allowed to have his game with his message. We're free to tell him fuck off and not buy it. He's not being censored or anything

Eh, GAF/Era is kinda doing it. "HE'S AN ALT-RIGHT PERSON. FUCK HIM! I'M NOT BUYING HIS GAME! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! (despite not knowing if the message changes, or if he had a change of heart or anything. FUCK HIM ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!)"

At least wait for the thing to come out, find out what it's story/messaging is doing and then decide from there if you're going to support it or not. Shitting on it for the sake of shitting on it really does people no favors.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12891 on: January 29, 2018, 12:33:02 AM »
The last night stuff is entertaining.

"We need more political messages in gaming!!....not like that!"

Said the same thing

I mean nobody is saying that as far as I've seen. The dude's completely allowed to have his game with his message. We're free to tell him fuck off and not buy it. He's not being censored or anything

There’s still much we don’t know though. All we have is a trailer and some half decade old tweets. The entire campaign against the game is founded entirely on conjecture. The entire point is that gamers demand games be treated like art. The thing about art is that it supports different viewpoints so people can articulate and communicate ideas. Criticizing art is fine. It is literally one the oldest methods of artistic analysis. But they’re not even criticizing a final product. They’re losing their shit over stuff in their imaginations.

If you’re going to say games are artistic then don’t value one type over another. It has its right to exist just as much as people have the right to tear it apart for being crap once it’s released. Losing your shit; judging the title on scant details, that’s not appreciating art. Appreciating art is questioning,”what does this have to say if anything?” and then examining what the creator had to communicate. Screeching about Twitter accusations with like zero footage besides the very inoffensive reveal trailer isn’t doing that. This tells you that the people arguing over it do not value art, much less games being art. They value their own world views.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12892 on: January 29, 2018, 12:50:49 AM »
The Last Night is going to be so fucking good.

Momo

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12893 on: January 29, 2018, 12:54:50 AM »
The Last Night is going to be so fucking good.
in for the art style and salt alone.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12894 on: January 29, 2018, 01:21:13 AM »
I imagine most if not all the people on Resetera complaining about how awful Tim Soret is are still going to buy the shit out of it

Remember this priceless gem?



Don't talk the talk unless you're gonna walk the walk.
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Aegis.exe

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12895 on: January 29, 2018, 01:32:23 AM »
Eh, I think it's pretty reasonable to look at Tim Soret's history and social and be weary about buying into his work, especially since we don't know what it entirely is.

In typical GAF/ERA fashion they take something I think would be reasonable and turn it into a crusade of absolute lunacy. I don't get why they can't just leave something as is without turning it into the moral battleground to live or die on.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12896 on: January 29, 2018, 01:39:10 AM »
Sure, but they're more than weary.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12897 on: January 29, 2018, 01:40:35 AM »
Eh, I think it's pretty reasonable to look at Tim Soret's history and social and be weary about buying into his work, especially since we don't know what it entirely is.

In typical GAF/ERA fashion they take something I think would be reasonable and turn it into a crusade of absolute lunacy. I don't get why they can't just leave something as is without turning it into the moral battleground to live or die on.

The game may end up sucking but it won't be because of Tim Soret's twitter likes

Aegis.exe

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12898 on: January 29, 2018, 01:43:24 AM »
Yeah that's I'm saying. I'm not upset the game is coming out, I'm not condemning anybody buying it, etc. Just saying I don't think it's unreasonable to look at that situation and say, "eh, I'll pass for now" and let it be that.

ERA can't be let it just be reasonable like that. It's kind of a theme they got going. Take a pretty basic personal choice, then start drawing lines in the sand and chanting for blood over it.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #12899 on: January 29, 2018, 02:47:39 AM »
So since no one answered when I asked last time I'm going to go ahead and assume that no, there isn't any actual footage of this game, and that people are digging their heels in on either side of this based on a four minute trailer that basically just shows off some neat lookin shaders and a groovy tune