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« Reply #15240 on: February 10, 2018, 09:37:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-guys-i-think-theres-something-wrong-with-me-metroid-other-m.22387/

If you think something's wrong with you because the majority of people in, what is in the grand scheme of things, an insignificant forum thinks that it's bad, then it just says more about what kind of an insecure fuck you are. Validate your self-worth according to the approval of anonymous nobodies in the Internet, brehs.   

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There is nothing wrong with being against the popular opinion, Skyward Sword was my favorite Zelda up until some time ago.
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« Reply #15241 on: February 10, 2018, 10:00:47 PM »
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I think there is a psychological difference in the way men and women look at their bodies. It has nothing really to do with the way society presents that body image, but rather the biological differences in sexuality.

I wasn’t replying to you but the other guy who was unhinged.

Can you go more into what you think these psychological differences are?

Well, first of all, I'm sure there is a lot of overlap. I think many men want to be sexually appealing to women. The difference is there is more than just physical attraction that women are after.

I remember reading once that women a more interested in looking at a male naked body if it was a celebrity she likes. In other words there has to be something more than just titillation to attract her. Men are far more visual in that respect. It is all about the tits and ass, everything else is irrelevant.

There is a difference in the way men and women view porn. Men of course focus on the woman, but interestingly so do women. Women focus on women. It seems they're more interested in what the woman's doing and her  pleasure than simply the visual attraction of the man.

Women it seems have an inward focus(it is more about them) and men have an outward focus(more about tits and ass). I think that inward focus probably leads to wanting to be the object of desire. If you notice women quite like wearing sexy lingerie and dancing sexily. I think this is partly an aspect of their own sexuality. How it is expressed. I think maybe this leads to greater sensitivity in the way her body looks.

I think this is an over simplification. Women are very visual. The problem is that men and the rest of society know what men find attractive because men can’t shut up. Meanwhile straight men often don’t even know what men women find attractive and work off assumptions and think ladies universally only like pretty boys. Most of the time a man says some guy is unattractive he’s actually not that bad looking. I have posted a pic of an obese guy with his shirt off and he’s hot af. Yes daddy!

When talking about human nature, it is always going to be a generalisation. There are no absolutes and many overlaps. What I am trying to answer is why women seem to have greater issues on average with body dissatisfaction than men. I suspect there is a biological predisposition towards body image that is greater in women.

Possibly related are conditions like anorexia. Why is it more women suffer from it. Anorexia is highly heritable, so there is a genetic component to it.

Some studies suggest that are tastes haven't really changed much. For example, the classic hourglass figure has remained alluring to men across generations in ancient cultures. It has been found to be universal. The universality of something is usually a hint that there may be a biological component at play there.

If male sexuality is wired to be more visual, then a female's chances of finding the most ideal mate would be weighted on that. And if that is the case, it wouldn't be surprising to see a greater focus on body image in women.

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« Reply #15242 on: February 10, 2018, 10:10:47 PM »
Anorexia and suicide are also problems of luxury and prosperity. They don't exist in poor countries like they do in wealthy countries. This is something that used to be part of the argument that blamed marketing since there is more media exposure in wealthy countries, but there's been little evidence of visual images causing these things. For some reason they exist in countries of wealth, but we don't know why.

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« Reply #15243 on: February 10, 2018, 10:22:55 PM »
Anorexia and suicide are also problems of luxury and prosperity. They don't exist in poor countries like they do in wealthy countries. This is something that used to be part of the argument that blamed marketing since there is more media exposure in wealthy countries, but there's been little evidence of visual images causing these things. For some reason they exist in countries of wealth, but we don't know why.

Well, what can be the case with a number of disorders is that some people are at greater risk, but genetics may not necessarily be the sole cause in itself. It can be a mixture of genetics and environmental triggers.

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Anorexia nervosa is highly heritable.[41] Twin studies have shown a heritability rate of between 28 and 58%.[42] First degree relative of those with anorexia have roughly 12 times the risk of developing anorexia.[43] Association studies have been performed, studying 128 different polymorphisms related to 43 genes including genes involved in regulation of eating behavior, motivation and reward mechanics, personality traits and emotion. Consistent associations have been identified for polymorphisms associated with agouti-related peptide, brain derived neurotrophic factor, catechol-o-methyl transferase, SK3 and opioid receptor delta-1.[44] Epigenetic modifications, such as DNA methylation, may contribute to the development or maintenance of anorexia nervosa, though clinical research in this area is in its infancy.[45]


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« Reply #15244 on: February 10, 2018, 10:43:49 PM »
If there is, as that suggests, a section of the population with anorexia as a heritability trait and the low end of that is a .28 HI and this shows up in mostly wealthy countries then environment factors may be.. without a better term, "Idle hands".  It could also be imagery, but you only spend excess leisure time on imagery with the availability of excess leisure time.

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« Reply #15245 on: February 11, 2018, 11:52:14 AM »
Apparently thebore assplosion lead to mac going off and getting himself nuked

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The N.K. has only one game and unless we tip our toes into it there is no other chance of communication. Unless Lime has a perfect strategy we can't dismiss all possible roots to NK talks.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/north-korea-is-winning-the-olympics-and-its-not-because-of-sports.22541/



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« Reply #15246 on: February 11, 2018, 12:08:02 PM »
What a rookie!  8)

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« Reply #15247 on: February 11, 2018, 12:22:41 PM »
The cartoon version of her gave me a bigger boner.

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« Reply #15248 on: February 11, 2018, 12:23:35 PM »
I just don't see how men are pressured to look a specific way. Most men don't give a shit. The most prominent visual of men on tv in the last 50 or so years involves a fat guy married to a thin stick of a woman so :idont

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Those are cartoons. Fat cartoon dudes are funny.

They don't make serious tv shows with fat male leads (besides Sopranos).

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« Reply #15249 on: February 11, 2018, 12:25:10 PM »
Yeah, and with the Sopranos it was only cause a stereotype for male opera singers is that they're fat.

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« Reply #15250 on: February 11, 2018, 12:28:11 PM »
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So lets say this hypothetical mom and pop store is for some reason uninformed at the price of this game and is a single business. Is it morally acceptable to purchase the game knowing full well the owner has no idea what it's worth?

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/you-walk-into-a-mom-and-pop-store-and-see-earthbound-for-20-what-do-you-do.22571/

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« Reply #15251 on: February 11, 2018, 12:32:00 PM »
Apparently thebore assplosion lead to mac going off and getting himself nuked

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The N.K. has only one game and unless we tip our toes into it there is no other chance of communication. Unless Lime has a perfect strategy we can't dismiss all possible roots to NK talks.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/north-korea-is-winning-the-olympics-and-its-not-because-of-sports.22541/




Deserved to be banned for such shitty trolling

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« Reply #15252 on: February 11, 2018, 12:33:21 PM »
It's the reason I go to mom and pop game stores for games. Fuck getting fleeced by some upselling market scum.

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« Reply #15253 on: February 11, 2018, 12:33:41 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/4420858

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I'd buy it. And as soon as the transaction was finished I'd say under my breath "Wow! I can't believe this was so cheap! It's normally hundreds of dollars!" as I left the store.

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« Reply #15254 on: February 11, 2018, 01:07:04 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?
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« Reply #15255 on: February 11, 2018, 02:04:26 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/4380194/


Just take your girl to the goddamn boys section you moron.

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this pic is so goddamn fucking stupid that I can physically feel my brain cells dying the longer I look at it

EDIT: okay I've recovered from this stupidity, and to elaborate on what Red has said below, there's also a big difference in what boys and girls are encouraged to become through these toys. Boys are encouraged to become fighters: strong, brave, dependable. Girls are encouraged to become models: stick-thin, decorative, shallow. While both of these ideals have problematic elements, the roles that we force on boys at least encompass a series of positive traits. Being a strong and brave hero is awesome. Being a glorified coat hanger is lame as fuck.

Is it actually lame as fuck, or is that your conditioned response as a male, who has been raised and marketed to in such a way as to think fashion and aesthetic beauty is lame or without purpose?  Maybe being against a desire to be pretty like Barbie is just more man-splaining, telling women what they should enjoy or do.  How about listening to women for once?

Wonder if that person would be happy if you replace Barbie with Red Sonja.

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« Reply #15256 on: February 11, 2018, 02:27:51 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-impressions-thread-read-op.22536/page-6#post-4424060

Thanks to the wonders of autism soon enough we will have a spreadsheet of all game developers and their political positions.

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« Reply #15257 on: February 11, 2018, 02:34:14 PM »
I think the depression and suicide has more to do with limited options and opportunities in life.  Having a better body image or a better sense of health won't help you in a world that views men mostly as drone bees and you happen to be a bee in a dead end job.  (or unemployed, or somewhere in the in-between)

Lack of purpose may lead to lack of perceived value. A cabana boy life may not actually work. Successful women do not marry down.

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« Reply #15258 on: February 11, 2018, 02:38:22 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-impressions-thread-read-op.22536/page-6#post-4424060

Thanks to the wonders of autism soon enough we will have a spreadsheet of all game developers and their political positions.

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I wonder what Reset would do if a week before Half-Life 3 got released, it was revealed Gabe Newell would drug women in bars then take them back to his apartment and masturbate in front of them for hours.

I mean sure he's an asshole who drugs and beats off in front of women... but on the otherhand it *is* HL3...

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« Reply #15259 on: February 11, 2018, 02:44:08 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?
Because boys from a young age are mostly told to ignore their feelings, don't be crybabies and bury their emotions where they can't find them.
So they just lock themselves away from society or end up in some dead-end job as they slowly drink or drug themselves to death.
Girls are taught to share their feelings, emotions and society is told to take into account those emotions.

Many men have insecurities, which is why you receive daily: "make your dick big" or "get muscles by drinking steroids" spam because there are enough sobbing desperate insecure man people who click on them.

Just think of how many boys get bullied in schools. My brother ended up with PTSD from persistent bullying that he's just now getting therapy for after not telling anyone he had suicidal thoughts on a daily basis and big crowds scared him for over 15 years.

In my country there are scores of men married to women, have children but who are actually gay and meet-up with gay dudes on specially allocated parking lots.
They were never allowed to show their true feelings and simply decided to settle for what was considered 'normal'. So they started living their alternative gay life 20 or 30 years later when it became accepted by society.

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.
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« Reply #15260 on: February 11, 2018, 02:49:12 PM »
The male experience is mostly unspoken and unexplored, and feminism has decided to speak for it which has only done more damage.



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Though it may be a huge mistake to think problems need to be only spoken about. That's a coping mechanism born from a female experience. I don't get anything out of talking about problems myself. Men might be more problem solving oriented and thinking discussing a problem is solving the problem is misguided. Builders need blueprints.
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« Reply #15261 on: February 11, 2018, 02:49:14 PM »
Talking about problems that straight white males face? The Bore truly is an alt-right, doxxing site.


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« Reply #15262 on: February 11, 2018, 02:56:59 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-impressions-thread-read-op.22536/page-6#post-4424060

Thanks to the wonders of autism soon enough we will have a spreadsheet of all game developers and their political positions.

 :doge

I'll give credit to ERA's moderation this time. If this was back on GAF pre-implosion, discussion of this game would have been entirely impossible due to mods allowing people to high-jack threads about it to virtue signal (with the mods themselves likely joining in on the high-jacking) and banning anyone complaining about the high-jackings. Either that or the game is outright banned for discussion on the site entirely. That the mods are pushing back against people like IrishNinja--who was just banned for trying to high-jack another Kingdom Come thread--is nice to see.
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« Reply #15263 on: February 11, 2018, 03:00:47 PM »
Here's a german offended that the Poles are singling out the Nazi's for being responsible for the Holocaust

Yes you read that correct

https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtube-shows-polish-propaganda-commercial.22548/

I would start a fund to donate History books to ResetEra but they'd probably burn them for being racist, sexist and transphobic.
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« Reply #15264 on: February 11, 2018, 03:02:54 PM »
Not really sure what you were trying to do tgere, Mac.

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« Reply #15265 on: February 11, 2018, 03:04:51 PM »
There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.



It sucks that most people who consider themselves Feminists these days believe that one of the core tenants of Feminism is that men's lives are a breeze compared to women's. Which is true* (*some countries to this day have horrible women's rights issues). But a white woman who lives in Washington isn't at a palpable disadvantage compared to a man. Enjoy that higher life expectancy yo.
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« Reply #15266 on: February 11, 2018, 03:08:03 PM »
Here's a german offended that the Poles are singling out the Nazi's for being responsible for the Holocaust

Yes you read that correct

https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtube-shows-polish-propaganda-commercial.22548/

I would start a fund to donate History books to ResetEra but they'd probably burn them for being racist, sexist and transphobic.

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WHATS WITH ALL THIS ANTI GERMANY SHIT HOLY HELL

in a thread about death camps

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« Reply #15267 on: February 11, 2018, 03:09:15 PM »
First world feminism. :neogaf

Not that issues don't exist but i have a feeling we are way past diminishing returns when it comes to what single sex oriented ideology can solve.

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« Reply #15268 on: February 11, 2018, 03:13:29 PM »
Here's a german offended that the Poles are singling out the Nazi's for being responsible for the Holocaust

Yes you read that correct

https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtube-shows-polish-propaganda-commercial.22548/

I would start a fund to donate History books to ResetEra but they'd probably burn them for being racist, sexist and transphobic.

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WHATS WITH ALL THIS ANTI GERMANY SHIT HOLY HELL

in a thread about death camps

The mental hoops in that thread are just insane

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Because the US government rolled over and died rather than adequately punish social media platforms and the russian government itself after russias successful initiative, why wouldn't other propoganda arms take advantage?

Germany has come a long way, even if there are still elements of the old regime its no more than other developed nations with a white majority.

Germany doesn't deserve this. focus on Nazi's.

Not Germany.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtube-shows-polish-propaganda-commercial.22548/page-2
They even get their 'defense' completely wrong. There are no more elements of the old regime. Well, maybe in nursery homes.  :doge
And no not every country has a x-% of old Nazi regime. ARE YOU PEOPLE INSANE.

And this my friends is why ResetEra is garbage tier.
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« Reply #15269 on: February 11, 2018, 03:20:42 PM »
I love the "Suggest me a (pedestrian everyday item)" threads.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/recommend-me-a-leather-laptop-messenger-bag-that-will-last-forever.22559/#post-4421974

"Hey guys I'm looking for a leather bag"

First reply "I got you fam, here is a generic as fuck looking bag for $1000"

Robin Leach, is that you?

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« Reply #15270 on: February 11, 2018, 03:24:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtube-shows-polish-propaganda-commercial.22548/page-2#post-4425292
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Why is poland pushing for xenophobic policies. Do they have a migrant issue?

READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK DEKUMAN, JESUS CHRIST.

No wonder I got banned, these people think Nazism was founded by Richard Spencer in Charlotsville and Bernie Sanders did D-Day when a bird landed on his lap.

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Not really, they have a problem regarding resettlement of migrants/refugee.
They also have a lack of workers but they prefer
WAT, a lack of workers in Poland? How is migration going to fix that anyway, 90% of the folks who entered Germany are unemployed and on welfare benefits.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-survey/only-13-percent-of-recent-refugees-in-germany-have-found-work-survey-idUSKBN13A22F
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« Reply #15271 on: February 11, 2018, 03:40:58 PM »
Man sometimes it's hard to level what Nintex says with the fact he is a sexist, racist transphobe. But I read it on a website so it must be true.

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« Reply #15272 on: February 11, 2018, 04:25:22 PM »
It's tenets

my god
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« Reply #15273 on: February 11, 2018, 04:30:32 PM »
Cindi, you're being distinguished mentally-challenged again. Yeah nobody gives a shit about how dudes look you're right. Girls just fuck whatever fat guy buys them a drink 1st. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Ugh, guess we're getting r/incels washouts now  :yuck

Now? :gurl We already had one.


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« Reply #15274 on: February 11, 2018, 04:55:47 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

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« Reply #15275 on: February 11, 2018, 05:00:52 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.
Intersectional feminism is evil, m'kay?

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« Reply #15276 on: February 11, 2018, 05:12:47 PM »
When I loaded the forum before and it gave me a small frame with a message it triggered my GAF ban PTSD before I could read it.

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« Reply #15277 on: February 11, 2018, 05:25:30 PM »
What was that about, anyway? Database errors always sound spooky.

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« Reply #15278 on: February 11, 2018, 05:38:36 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

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the toxic masculinity take is part of the problem

Let's do a quick rundown. Men should be allowed to cry if they need to cry. Good. However, if everyone is crying and unable to stand up and handle a problem? That's bad. Toxic masculinity theory doesn't understand that the sentiment that represses emotions also serves a social good. You sometimes do need to put aside emotional displays for the good of everyone. That is also masculinity and its not toxic. It's beneficial to the group. What is toxic is punishing or not appreciating that behavior and calling it toxic with great carelessness.

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« Reply #15279 on: February 11, 2018, 05:52:18 PM »
That's some big talk on the societal importance of men not crying coming from one of the whiniest bitches on the planet :gurl

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« Reply #15280 on: February 11, 2018, 05:54:20 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.
Masculine men can also have problems. Just look at the number of fucked up veterans walking around.

However, saying everyone has problems and not just this narrow group or groups society finds 'ok' to have problems is somehow a bad position that shits the bed.
And because the more sensible folks ignore it the void gets filled up by the crazies. Because if the regular channels don't tell you what to do, you start listening to the crazies at infowars.

This problem will only get worse because of automation more men are going to be stuck doing nothing meaningful with their lives, which is ultimately very bad for society as a whole.
Just imagine what happens when all the truck drivers lose their jobs because of self driving trucks. A field, predominantly male and the most common occupation in a lot of countries. 

However no one talks about that. Instead they either want to build walls for whatever reason or focus on making fields like IT more 'diverse'. Which is a noble cause but ultimately not something that will impact society the way automation will.
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« Reply #15281 on: February 11, 2018, 05:55:16 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

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the toxic masculinity take is part of the problem

Let's do a quick rundown. Men should be allowed to cry if they need to cry. Good. However, if everyone is crying and unable to stand up and handle a problem? That's bad. Toxic masculinity theory doesn't understand that the sentiment that represses emotions also serves a social good. You sometimes do need to put aside emotional displays for the good of everyone. That is also masculinity and its not toxic. It's beneficial to the group. What is toxic is punishing or not appreciating that behavior and calling it toxic with great carelessness.

Whether you agree or disagree with the idea of toxic masculinity, or to what degree any of it might be toxic, you need to understand the scope of the term.  That is, it's not a statement that all masculinity is toxic, just that parts of it are.  That's why it's a condemnation against toxic masculinity rather than just masculinity.

So making a statement about how sometimes it's ok to cry and sometimes people need to repress emotions and get the job done isn't an argument against toxic masculinity, it's sort of agreeing with the main thrust of conversation surrounding it.  The toxic bit is the part where no guy anywhere is supposed to cry.

Now, maybe you think feminists are trying to say that men need to be able to cry in all situations more often than they do now, and you just think they should feel comfortable in crying just a bit more often.  Like I said the degree to which it's a problem is up for debate.  But understand that toxic masculinity =/= all masculinity is toxic.
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« Reply #15282 on: February 11, 2018, 05:59:30 PM »
Let's do a quick rundown. Men should be allowed to cry if they need to cry. Good. However, if everyone is crying and unable to stand up and handle a problem? That's bad. Toxic masculinity theory doesn't understand that the sentiment that represses emotions also serves a social good. You sometimes do need to put aside emotional displays for the good of everyone. That is also masculinity and its not toxic. It's beneficial to the group. What is toxic is punishing or not appreciating that behavior and calling it toxic with great carelessness.
Congrats. You took down an absolutist cartoon version of the idea.

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« Reply #15283 on: February 11, 2018, 06:04:04 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?
Because boys from a young age are mostly told to ignore their feelings, don't be crybabies and bury their emotions where they can't find them.
So they just lock themselves away from society or end up in some dead-end job as they slowly drink or drug themselves to death.
Girls are taught to share their feelings, emotions and society is told to take into account those emotions.

Many men have insecurities, which is why you receive daily: "make your dick big" or "get muscles by drinking steroids" spam because there are enough sobbing desperate insecure man people who click on them.

Just think of how many boys get bullied in schools. My brother ended up with PTSD from persistent bullying that he's just now getting therapy for after not telling anyone he had suicidal thoughts on a daily basis and big crowds scared him for over 15 years.

In my country there are scores of men married to women, have children but who are actually gay and meet-up with gay dudes on specially allocated parking lots.
They were never allowed to show their true feelings and simply decided to settle for what was considered 'normal'. So they started living their alternative gay life 20 or 30 years later when it became accepted by society.

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

I agree with all of that. I did after all say the last page that girls are more afforded more opportunities for gender expression for example. I just didn’t think that men suffer body image issues like women. Or maybe they do, and it effects them differently.

After all, insecurity != inherently body image issue

You’re moving goal posts

I never said men don’t have insecurities. I know full well that they do. My contention is “I doubt the high male Suicide rate is attributed to the fact that Jim is 5’6.”
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #15284 on: February 11, 2018, 06:10:13 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

This problem will only get worse because of automation more men are going to be stuck doing nothing meaningful with their lives, which is ultimately very bad for society as a whole.
Just imagine what happens when all the truck drivers lose their jobs because of self driving trucks. A field, predominantly male and the most common occupation in a lot of countries. 

However no one talks about that.

Welcome to the communist party  8)

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #15285 on: February 11, 2018, 06:11:42 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

 :snoop

the toxic masculinity take is part of the problem

Let's do a quick rundown. Men should be allowed to cry if they need to cry. Good. However, if everyone is crying and unable to stand up and handle a problem? That's bad. Toxic masculinity theory doesn't understand that the sentiment that represses emotions also serves a social good. You sometimes do need to put aside emotional displays for the good of everyone. That is also masculinity and its not toxic. It's beneficial to the group. What is toxic is punishing or not appreciating that behavior and calling it toxic with great carelessness.

Whether you agree or disagree with the idea of toxic masculinity, or to what degree any of it might be toxic, you need to understand the scope of the term.  That is, it's not a statement that all masculinity is toxic, just that parts of it are.  That's why it's a condemnation against toxic masculinity rather than just masculinity.

So making a statement about how sometimes it's ok to cry and sometimes people need to repress emotions and get the job done isn't an argument against toxic masculinity, it's sort of agreeing with the main thrust of conversation surrounding it.  The toxic bit is the part where no guy anywhere is supposed to cry.

Now, maybe you think feminists are trying to say that men need to be able to cry in all situations more often than they do now, and you just think they should feel comfortable in crying just a bit more often.  Like I said the degree to which it's a problem is up for debate.  But understand that toxic masculinity =/= all masculinity is toxic.

The use of the term toxic masculinity is far too broad for me to see it as the careful examination it needs to be. Especially when it comes from intersectional radfem voices.

You cannot untangle certain parts of what we're calling masculinity that are wound together nor can you separate the difficult parts from the beneficial parts cleanly. Mostly, it cannot be feminism handling it because that ideology is camped in a feminine perspective and littered with socialist ideas. They may be doing nothing but confusing failure for masculinity.

I look at people I've known in real life who failed to handle the difficult events in their life. They've vanished into vices, chosen prison over paying bills, and left others to do all the work. A mind that doesn't understand male experience will call that toxic masculinity, while a man should recognize that as nothing like masculinity at all. It's failure.

The discussion on toxic masculinity so very often is ready to include the valiant along with the pathetic. And if you want to change a man's role then you are fighting thousands of years of evolution, not just societal expectations. It's way more tricky a puzzle than the discussion gives it.


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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #15286 on: February 11, 2018, 06:16:05 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.


You literally just talked about fucking toxic masculinity and expect us to take feminism seriously. Men have their fucking problems and on top of that they have the feminist distinguished mentally-challenged fellows making up obnoxious buzzwords where they blame their very nature for them.

Do feminists talk about women's constant need for attention and their narcissism as the causes of body issues? Do feminists talk about toxic femininity? This is why I heavily dislike intersectional feminism, a bunch of pretentious fucks using pseudo-intellectual buzzwords to basically blame men for everything and treat women like victims. If you can't see through that pathetic facade you're either a hypocrite or a moron.

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« Reply #15287 on: February 11, 2018, 06:16:31 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. Their is their sickness. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute
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« Reply #15288 on: February 11, 2018, 06:17:09 PM »
Word filters are gay. Get rid of this shit.
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« Reply #15289 on: February 11, 2018, 06:17:32 PM »
I love the "Suggest me a (pedestrian everyday item)" threads.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/recommend-me-a-leather-laptop-messenger-bag-that-will-last-forever.22559/#post-4421974

"Hey guys I'm looking for a leather bag"

First reply "I got you fam, here is a generic as fuck looking bag for $1000"

Robin Leach, is that you?
Leather finishing looks sus, doing that to bridle leather is just in poor taste.

A much better less faux lifestyle aspiration version

https://lotuffleather.com/products/leather-zip-top-briefcase
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #15290 on: February 11, 2018, 06:25:42 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute


By nature men have serious flaws and so do women. We can acknowledge them and address them without being biased fucks and only focusing on one sex's disadvantages. I've repeatedly witnessed women have them most toxic fucked up friendships and almost exclusively passive-aggressively shame each other about weight and sex. Why don't fucking feminists address the issue of toxic femininity?

The feminist distinguished mentally-challenged fellows constantly whine about slut shaming. Who do you think shames sluts all the time? You really think it's men? What the fuck would we gain from it when we have so much to lose?

And for the record I'm fine with not showing certain emotions to other people, it's not their fucking business. If other men want to do it I'm fine with that but I don't want a fucking movement to tell me what's good for me.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #15291 on: February 11, 2018, 06:26:49 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. Their is their sickness. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute

Is this an actual example that has happened to  or projection

It happened. Black men can be very sensitive even though they’re the sexiest men on Earth.
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« Reply #15292 on: February 11, 2018, 06:34:10 PM »
Hey ratards

This thread is for making fun of ratards

Not for becoming the ratard
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« Reply #15293 on: February 11, 2018, 06:37:23 PM »

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« Reply #15294 on: February 11, 2018, 06:37:34 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. Their is their sickness. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute

Is this an actual example that has happened to  or projection

It happened. Black men can be very sensitive even though they’re the sexiest men on Earth.

Someone has clearly not seen the Drag Race Thailand Pit Crew. 
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #15295 on: February 11, 2018, 06:40:38 PM »
I know plenty of women that will use the word taco at the drop of a hat and make fun of down low men and such.

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« Reply #15296 on: February 11, 2018, 06:42:55 PM »
Ok but you live in a state where I'd expect women to do that
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« Reply #15297 on: February 11, 2018, 06:47:50 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻

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« Reply #15298 on: February 11, 2018, 06:54:26 PM »
i hope everyone who posts about politics itt has a potato cannon shoved up their ass and has porcupines fired into it

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« Reply #15299 on: February 11, 2018, 06:58:23 PM »
i hope everyone who posts about politics itt has a potato cannon shoved up their ass and has porcupines fired into it


I have the potato cannon but can't find porcupines in my area. Anyway, like I said before very few people seem to actually visit that shithole now to post their insanity so expect more general discussion itt otherwise the thread will wither and die.