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[Uncle]

I have received 3 warnings in 3 days.

HELP

You gotta watch out.  They are petty enough that they WILL comb through the logs to find out who got warned 3 times in 3 days and they WILL put the 236 of you on a watch list to narrow down which one is posting on noted hate site thebore.com.

[tummyfat]

dude

that comparison

The Birth of a Nation/Black Panther thread?

They really think 100 years from now people will be talking about a superhero movie and how important it was.

[james]

I have received 3 warnings in 3 days.

HELP

Link to your posts so we can judge.

And get permed for being a member of a well-known hate community?

No thanks.


But for fucks sake, Amirox was a more balanced mod than half these people on staff. They're literally using the warning system to disagree with an opinion.

[Boredfrom]

Gamergate deserve the mockery because many of them are petty stupid assholes, but dunno if call them hate group.

And outside of that, I don’t get why NeoGaf/Resetera is so obsessed with labeling “gamer” as a negative. I get the disdain for the label (Jeff Gerstmann explained one time the corporate origins of the term) but not the need to make it more negative than anything.

[Nintex]

Gamergate deserve the mockery because many of them are petty stupid assholes, but dunno if call them hate group.

And outside of that, I don’t get why NeoGaf/Resetera is so obsessed with labeling “gamer” as a negative. I get the disdain for the label (Jeff Gerstmann explained one time the corporate origins of the term) but not the need to make it more negative than anything.

Maybe we should do what the people who fish as a hobby did and go with the label 'Gamerman'. 

[Uncle]

It's pretty shitty how ethics in games journalism is now forever a forbidden topic because even attempting to imply there might be a problem invokes the meme.

I'm not saying there's any particular pervasive problem that could use addressing, but if there was, fuck trying to talk about it.

Unless you can get SweetNicole or excelsiorlef on your side, that would make it ok.

[Uncle]

Maybe we should do what the people who fish as a hobby did and go with the label 'Gamerman'. 

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4541194/

Feels dumb to say this about a Marvel super hero movie, but it definitely feels like an important moment in American history.

it feels dumb to say that because it is a dumb thing to say

[Uncle]

Feels dumb to say this about a Marvel super hero movie, but it definitely feels like an important moment in American history.

it feels dumb to say that because it is a dumb thing to say

Question that needs to be addressed: is Black Panther more or less important than the first black president?

Than the first woman president?

[Nintex]

It's pretty shitty how ethics in games journalism is now forever a forbidden topic because even attempting to imply there might be a problem invokes the meme.

I'm not saying there's any particular pervasive problem that could use addressing, but if there was, fuck trying to talk about it.

Unless you can get SweetNicole or excelsiorlef on your side, that would make it ok.

Game journalism is dead anyway. It's all about Pewdiepie and Dr. Disrespect now.
There's not much journalism left.

[etiolate]

You could have the freedom of realizing it was all bullshit flung by people now well established as professional bullshitters

or

you can keep pretending GG was something sorta-mean-i-guess-dunno-shutup-imsickofitalready-heyimnot-whatever

[daemon]

Member banned (permanently): Admitting to be a member of a hate group and openly advocating for it. Persistant downplaying of racism, sexism, homophobia etc.

Gamergate is just as much of a "hate group" as resetera is. I can't stand GGers, they're annoying and petty as fuck, but calling them a hate group is disingenuous as hell. Also that thread is fucked.

That's what a GGer would say. You can't fool me!!!

[tummyfat]

I feel like if 'To Wong Fu, Thanks for Everything - Julie Newmar' came out today there would be pages about its importance on Resetera

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4541194/

Feels dumb to say this about a Marvel super hero movie, but it definitely feels like an important moment in American history.

it feels dumb to say that because it is a dumb thing to say

Apparently this is the first movie ever that stars black people.

Ike Perlmutter will be remembered as a saint

[nudemacusers]

No prob with banning anyone who wants to hitch their wagons to something as lame as gamergate. How is one a member of gamergate anyway. Are there dues? ID cards?

[nachobro]

I get why people are more excited about BP than every other dumb, boring Marvel movie and I understand that but calling it an important moment in American history is a bit hyperbolic

[etiolate]

man wait til these kids discover Blade

[Raist]

Oh shit here we gooooooooo

https://www.resetera.com/threads/monster-hunter-world-nintendo-switch-port-would-be-%E2%80%9Cdifficult%E2%80%9D-according-to-capcom%E2%80%99s-president.23210/

Alright,

1. Please keep this thread civilized. We are just 6 pages in and this thread not only generated too many reports already but seems to shift into another shitfest between PlayStation and Nintendo fans. Mr.Tsujimoto gave a good explanation about why MHW would be difficult to pull off on Switch and I think those statements can be discussed without y'all getting angry at each other.
2. Just because game X runs on system Y doesn't mean that game Z will run on system Y as well - I feel like we should look at Monster Hunter World itself instead of looking at other games that might have a bigger scope but lack other features of MHW.
3. Knock it off with the personal attacks and report inappropriate behaviour when you see it.
4. Do not just post/tease "insider information" if you haven't been properly checked by ZhugeEx.

I'll keep my expectations low for this thread, but I hope that we won't have to close it early just because of platform wars bullshit and ignorance regarding the technical realities of both the Switch and MHW.

[nachobro]

man wait til these kids discover Blade

I will forever stand by Blade 2 and Hellboy being the best superhero movies out there.

[etiolate]

Time to send ZhugeEx a bunch of fake credentials!

[HaughtyFrank]

Makes me wonder if Gods of Egypt would have also been hailed as historical moment if they had not whitewashed it.

[stufte]

Makes me wonder if Gods of Egypt would have also been hailed as historical moment if they had not whitewashed it.

Not unless every character was black. That's how it works I think.

[Momo]

Oh shit here we gooooooooo

https://www.resetera.com/threads/monster-hunter-world-nintendo-switch-port-would-be-%E2%80%9Cdifficult%E2%80%9D-according-to-capcom%E2%80%99s-president.23210/

Alright,

1. Please keep this thread civilized. We are just 6 pages in and this thread not only generated too many reports already but seems to shift into another shitfest between PlayStation and Nintendo fans. Mr.Tsujimoto gave a good explanation about why MHW would be difficult to pull off on Switch and I think those statements can be discussed without y'all getting angry at each other.
2. Just because game X runs on system Y doesn't mean that game Z will run on system Y as well - I feel like we should look at Monster Hunter World itself instead of looking at other games that might have a bigger scope but lack other features of MHW.
3. Knock it off with the personal attacks and report inappropriate behaviour when you see it.
4. Do not just post/tease "insider information" if you haven't been properly checked by ZhugeEx.

I'll keep my expectations low for this thread, but I hope that we won't have to close it early just because of platform wars bullshit and ignorance regarding the technical realities of both the Switch and MHW.

[Nintex]

GamerGate continues to be dumb.

Just remember how it started. Zoe Quinn allegedly had a thing with a jury member / gaming journo on some awards thing which got her awards and stuff.
According to her boyfriend anyway.

The boyfriend of Zoe Quinn is basically the original cuck

Therefore GamerGate is essentially a cuck defense force. 

[etiolate]

All it tells me is that they'l quickly forget about Black Panther and move on to the next thing as if it was the first thing.



btw, The Princess and the Frog was good, but is probably problematic now for all its Jazz imagery, which we know now to be alt-right dogwhistling by the Cuphead devs

[Raist]

This quote is interesting. "Various conditions" implies to me that they are stuck with a exclusivity/marketing deal with Sony like the 4chan rumor said. I think them not wanting to straight up port MHW is due to contracts. The same rumor did mention a portable version, though. Considering he acknowledges that there is a demand we should expect a portable version to happen. A terrible strategy if you ask me but its better than completely ignoring the Switch user base and letting other publishers milk the potential hunter audience on Switch.

Ah yes, the behind-closed-doors exclusivity pact with Lucifer Sony.

[tummyfat]

btw, The Princess and the Frog was good, but is probably problematic now for all its Jazz imagery, which we know now to be alt-right dogwhistling by the Cuphead devs

No to mention the POC villain used voodoo and the soundtrack prominently featured renowned cultural appropriator "Doctor" John

[Nintex]

This quote is interesting. "Various conditions" implies to me that they are stuck with a exclusivity/marketing deal with Sony like the 4chan rumor said. I think them not wanting to straight up port MHW is due to contracts. The same rumor did mention a portable version, though. Considering he acknowledges that there is a demand we should expect a portable version to happen. A terrible strategy if you ask me but its better than completely ignoring the Switch user base and letting other publishers milk the potential hunter audience on Switch.

Ah yes, the behind-closed-doors exclusivity pact with Lucifer Sony.

Monster Hunter World and an Xbox One S costs about the same as 12 Amiibo's and 1 shitty Sonic game.

If they knew how to handle money they could be playing it right now instead of complaining.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Oh shit here we gooooooooo

https://www.resetera.com/threads/monster-hunter-world-nintendo-switch-port-would-be-%E2%80%9Cdifficult%E2%80%9D-according-to-capcom%E2%80%99s-president.23210/

Alright,

1. Please keep this thread civilized. We are just 6 pages in and this thread not only generated too many reports already but seems to shift into another shitfest between PlayStation and Nintendo fans. Mr.Tsujimoto gave a good explanation about why MHW would be difficult to pull off on Switch and I think those statements can be discussed without y'all getting angry at each other.
2. Just because game X runs on system Y doesn't mean that game Z will run on system Y as well - I feel like we should look at Monster Hunter World itself instead of looking at other games that might have a bigger scope but lack other features of MHW.
3. Knock it off with the personal attacks and report inappropriate behaviour when you see it.
4. Do not just post/tease "insider information" if you haven't been properly checked by ZhugeEx.

I'll keep my expectations low for this thread, but I hope that we won't have to close it early just because of platform wars bullshit and ignorance regarding the technical realities of both the Switch and MHW.

Does Nibel no longer think the community is more than capable of discussing a topic like this with nuance and respect?

Also incoming lawnmower: https://www.resetera.com/threads/kevin-feige-on-black-panther-my-heroes-looked-liked-me-i-want-others-to-have-that-feeling.23333/

[Nintex]

User warned for arguing in bad faith

“Hate group.”

This place is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

[nudemacusers]

man wait til these kids discover Blade

I will forever stand by Blade 2 and Hellboy being the best superhero movies out there.

Blade 

Guillermo del toro’s body of work with the exception of pans labyrinth and that’s kinda ehh in spots but has edgy grimdark material which appeals to post adolescent virgin nerds so it’s brought up as an example of mature fantasy 

[HardcoreRetro]

What about the water movie?

[stufte]

What about the water movie?

The lady in the water?

TRASH MOVIE.

[nudemacusers]

If I need to see a chick fuck a fish I’d hit up some Japanese porn

[etiolate]

btw, The Princess and the Frog was good, but is probably problematic now for all its Jazz imagery, which we know now to be alt-right dogwhistling by the Cuphead devs

No to mention the POC villain used voodoo and the soundtrack prominently featured renowned cultural appropriator "Doctor" John

 

Save me Te-Nehisi Coates!

[stufte]

If I need to see a chick fuck a fish I’d hit up some Japanese porn

whynotboth.gif

[Momo]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

[I'm a Puppy!]

So, what do you do in your spare time?
"Oh I like to play games"
"Cool. So you own games?"
"Oh yes, dozens."
"Are you a part of any online communities."
"Not only am I member, I'm a moderator for an online forum."
"Oh really? What's the forum about?"
"Videogames."
"Huh, you really are quite a gamer aren't you?"
"How could you say that to me?!!"

[james]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

You really need to watch Birdman

[Momo]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

You really need to watch Birdman

I have and I love it, but

a)I don't consider it to be a superhero movie
b)I don't consider it to be better than Logan

[HardcoreRetro]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

It's called Spider-Man 2.

[stufte]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4544180/

Apparently every oppressed group is perfectly introspective and know and deal with their own in a perfect way. They are a monolith and are perfect beings, ergo... gamers are toxic?

Also: Didn't know the oppression olympics aired at the same time as the winter olympics. TIL

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

You really need to watch Birdman

Eh, Super was the last superhero movie that actually had something to say.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4544180/

Apparently every oppressed group is perfectly introspective and know and deal with their own in a perfect way. They are a monolith and are perfect beings, ergo... gamers are toxic?

Also: Didn't know the oppression olympics aired at the same time as the winter olympics. TIL

 

My boy is back!

[Momo]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

It's called Spider-Man 2.

I used to have this same opinion my man, it's still nr 2 for me, but after watching Logan and letting it kick around for near a year in my mind, to me it's the gold standard.

[etiolate]

wtf is Cream's avatar

[Tasty]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

It's called Spider-Man 2.

Yeah, and Logan is more of a gritty western than anything.

[HardcoreRetro]

Eh, Super was the last superhero movie that actually had something to say.

You ever watch Defendor? Thought that was a lot of fun as well.

[Momo]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

It's called Spider-Man 2.

Yeah, and Logan is more of a gritty western than anything.

I get that it doesnt follow superhero movie conventions, but that it stars Wolverine and Prof X and is a sequel to a line of classic superhero movies puts it in the genre imo.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Eh, Super was the last superhero movie that actually had something to say.

You ever watch Defendor? Thought that was a lot of fun as well.

I have not, but it looks like something I'd like. I've been a big fan of Woody Harrelson ever since his reddit AMA. Thanks.

 Another superhero movie opinion: Darkman is Sam Raimi's best superhero film.

[Tasty]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

It's called Spider-Man 2.

Yeah, and Logan is more of a gritty western than anything.

I get that it doesnt follow superhero movie conventions, but that it stars Wolverine and Prof X and is a sequel to a line of classic superhero movies puts it in the genre imo.

Nah. The upcoming horror film "New Mutants" isn't a superhero movie either.

[Momo]

Sam Raimi hot take - I dont know how I feel about Evil Dead, some days I appreciate the over the top fun of the later movies and TV series, but others I think back to the first one that was played a lot more straight and it erodes my fun as I wonder if he actually wanted to make the sequels less hokey but was kinda pushed that way by external forces.

[james]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

You really need to watch Birdman

I have and I love it, but

a)I don't consider it to be a superhero movie
b)I don't consider it to be better than Logan

I've never seen someone be so wrong before.

And I was just on Resetera

[Momo]

Nah. The upcoming horror film "New Mutants" isn't a superhero movie either.

I respectfully disagree (RE Logan) and maybe this is a good time to define what a 'superhero' movie is as a genre.

[Momo]

It's going to take a big effort to surpass Logan as the best superhero movie in my mind.

You really need to watch Birdman

I have and I love it, but

a)I don't consider it to be a superhero movie
b)I don't consider it to be better than Logan

I've never seen someone be so wrong before.

And I was just on Resetera

  tier post, adds nothing to this conversation thread.

User was warned for REEasons. 

[Jansen]

christ this thread keeps getting worse. it went from being overly political to some system wars garbage (fucking dumbass sonyponies), and now some gamergate shit like they don't deserve to be bant on sight

[Tasty]

Sam Raimi hot take - I dont know how I feel about Evil Dead, some days I appreciate the over the top fun of the later movies and TV series, but others I think back to the first one that was played a lot more straight and it erodes my fun as I wonder if he actually wanted to make the sequels less hokey but was kinda pushed that way by external forces.

I think it's the opposite. He wanted to make a straight horror movie he thought the public would like / would get picked up for distribution, then when he had a success under his belt he was able to break loose and hone more of his hokey style.

[HardcoreRetro]

Sam Raimi hot take - I dont know how I feel about Evil Dead, some days I appreciate the over the top fun of the later movies and TV series, but others I think back to the first one that was played a lot more straight and it erodes my fun as I wonder if he actually wanted to make the sequels less hokey but was kinda pushed that way by external forces.

I find the super low budget stuff in the first one charming as hell. The red moon shot you can literally see the red cellophane he taped on there.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Thug 2 is back

Sorry, didn't intend to direct negativity toward the folks still here and contributing to a better future for the site and community. The team and I have put a lot of work in to turn things around and eventually forge a better outcome for this place than the one we had prior to the drama, which we're already starting to see bear fruit, and you guys and gals being on board with all that is what makes it possible and gives it meaning ultimately. I'm optimistic and motivated about running the site, in stark contrast to 2017's misery pit vibes on the board accompanied by some of the most traumatic personal issues I've ever had to confront one after another that year (and I'm not referring to #metoo). I'm okay, though, and NeoGAF's not just turning around but is also headed in a carefully and purposefully constructed direction I've put a lot of care into planning and executing (with the support of our supremely talented sysadmin team and perhaps NeoGAF's first true set of moderators in the proper sense, of whom I'm proud of already for how deftly they're guiding threads).

NeoGAF's traffic has doubled in the last 30 days alone, and an astonishing amount of real, challenging discussion is happening paired with an all-time low number of bans involved. It's wonderful to see it all play out as hoped and far better reflects my intent for this place than where we started to head in recent years.

Just took me to a bleak spot in the moment reading this thread, yes, for the reasons I mentioned. The "grandstanding," apparently.

No, I had not read it at the time back then. Or basically any of these threads beyond the titles. It was too hurtful to read the site at all that day. As silly or fragile as it might paint me as, I had to ask mods and friends and such to summarize or otherwise relay the gist of what was happening and being said at any given time on the site to me during peak head-on-spike mode, since I would start breaking down if I read it directly. I am used to infinite internet trolling and misanthropes in my direction and I normally don't sweat it at all and have fun sparring back and forth if time permits, but I legit care about my community, have put my heart into this place for over half my life already, and couldn't bear to read what was being said by the crowd as they burned it all down in spite and revelry.

But that's in the past, and may have been for the best, since things were so poisonous and miserable here in 2017 that it was taking a serious toll on my health and well-being beyond everyone else going on already. It was taking a serious toll on a lot of my ex-mods, too, some of whom had fallen into proper serious depression solely as a result of their involvement with the site, no doubt many users as well, but a vicious cycle had formed and decided to persist. With NeoGAF so successful and outlasting almost all the other major forums on the 'net and then some, it was like "winning," but hating the outcome and finding myself unsuccessful in all of my efforts to change outcomes anymore, while my life entered a period of serious turmoil...and then #metoo blindsided me and you know the rest. But let's stop there.

Now it's a fresh challenge and opportunity to utilize everything I've learned since the beginning of the whole journey, without pushback from a hostile userbase or a small contingent of duplicitous team members sabotaging our efforts to course correct or any of that. The internal structure is streamlined and not wishy-washy consensus peer group based anymore to any degree, or open to contrary agendas or egos. There's a clear vision being developed and executed, and hopefully you're seeing that play out to your liking and finding more occasions where you're inclined to participate.

Thanks for the support and kind words. Except for Snitch, who apparently thinks malicious porn bomb account suicides attempting to destroy NeoGAF in the name of Resetera are acceptable behavior as per the other thread I just nuked his account in. Virtuous and honorable individual all the way through. ;b

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/this-forum-stopped-me-from-killing-myself-i-think-its-worth-keeping.1451556/page-2#post-253185716

Nah. The upcoming horror film "New Mutants" isn't a superhero movie either.

I respectfully disagree (RE Logan) and maybe this is a good time to define what a 'superhero' movie is as a genre.

Someone get Ted Danson!

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kevin-feige-on-black-panther-my-heroes-looked-liked-me-i-want-others-to-have-that-feeling.23333/


MOD POST EDIT:

A few points before we try this again:

This is not the thread to mention that you don't see color, or don't care about the diversity of fictional characters. Posts of that nature only serve to dismiss the concerns of other posters and will be warned or banned going forward.

Please refrain from derailing the discussion with comparisons to Iron Fist, or anything else outside of the films that Kevin Feige produces.

As with any topic that deals with representation, tempers are likely to be raised. Please try to refrain from personal attacks, and instead use the report feature if you believe that a post is problematic/against our TOS. We have been fairly lenient with some posts prior to this message, but will have to warn/ban personal attacks going forward.

Thanks

[Uncle]

It was taking a serious toll on a lot of my ex-mods, too, some of whom had fallen into proper serious depression solely as a result of their involvement with the site, no doubt many users as well, but a vicious cycle had formed and decided to persist.

If true then take some solace in how things must be behind the scenes at Reset.