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[Great Rumbler]

BLM would have higher support if it started out as "black lives matter too".  It would completely destroy the narrative of "white lives don't matter" that dumb people push and make that one comic with the burning house completely unnecessary.

Let's be honest here, no it wouldn't.

[nachobro]

great combat
beautiful visuals

i'll stick to bdo (even though i'm barely even playing it these days)

[Cream]

I am telling you that having a good goal is not enough. You can't carebear stare the world. You have to have competence in how you go about things and if you don't then people will see the bad stuff and remember it. We are predisposed to emphasize negative response and negative experience.

So how would you suggest tackling the problem of a total disregard for the discrepancy and disproportionate treatment of black people by the law? And what should that group be called?

I know! I know! We ban the sales of frozen peaches! That would help, surely!

Here’s how I personally see it I think.

Imagine America is a parent, and minorities and white people are their two children. One child gets a lot more love and care and attention. More opportunities. And when they act up, the punishment isnt as bad. That said America is still a shitty parent so they do a lot of awful shit to that child too.

Also it’s really easy for one child to make up things about the other child so that the already unfair treatment towards them is even worse.

Neither child is perfect, but one child got a much much much much better head start. The other child really hasn’t been given more than table scraps in comparison.

And when this more neglected child complains about this treatment, they are often shittalked by the other child, so the parent treats them worse STILL, and the other child just says “shouldn’t have complained.”

Now occasionally, the first child will act up, in fact, in some ways, they act up the same amount or more than the neglected child. And a lot of the time, the parent will look the other way. But sometimes, the parent will actually give that child a little spanking too.

Meanwhile that child is still shitting on the neglected child who is getting FAR worse treatment.

 Can you at least a little bit understand why it’s difficult for the  neglected child to get upset when the preferred child gets their spanking, even if that specific time they might not have deserved it?

[Boredfrom]

Your hourly Nintardera thread

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-nintendo-so-good-right-now-how-will-it-sustain-this.31330/

Well time sure does fly innit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/would-switch-as-the-base-console-be-a-valid-multiplatform-strategy.30974/

"Pls giv gaems plllsssss "

Nintendo and its fans never learn.

[Rufus]

I am telling you that having a good goal is not enough. You can't carebear stare the world. You have to have competence in how you go about things and if you don't then people will see the bad stuff and remember it. We are predisposed to emphasize negative response and negative experience.

Etiolate... why the fuck you can think like that and still support places like KiA where competence goes to die.

Because there's no whiff of 'cultural marxism' about them.

Focus on the negative with BLM? Natural, human. Focus on the negative with something like Gamergate? You 'perpetuate a lie for social gain' or whatever it is he last said on it, I don't remember it well enough to search for it.

Nice to know though that he was playing stupid before, even if this is a roundabout confirmation.

[etiolate]

great combat
beautiful visuals

i'll stick to bdo (even though i'm barely even playing it these days)

The combat is the best in the genre imo. BDO is flashier combat, but the way combat works cohesively in GW2 gives it the edge.

[Boredfrom]

I am telling you that having a good goal is not enough. You can't carebear stare the world. You have to have competence in how you go about things and if you don't then people will see the bad stuff and remember it. We are predisposed to emphasize negative response and negative experience.

So how would you suggest tackling the problem of a total disregard for the discrepancy and disproportionate treatment of black people by the law? And what should that group be called?

I know! I know! We ban the sales of frozen peaches! That would help, surely!

Here’s how I personally see it I think.

Imagine America is a parent, and minorities and white people are their two children. One child gets a lot more love and care and attention. More opportunities. And when they act up, the punishment isnt as bad. That said America is still a shitty parent so they do a lot of awful shit to that child too.

Also it’s really easy for one child to make up things about the other child so that the already unfair treatment towards them is even worse.

Neither child is perfect, but one child got a much much much much better head start. The other child really hasn’t been given more than table scraps in comparison.

And when this more neglected child complains about this treatment, they are often shittalked by the other child, so the parent treats them worse STILL, and the other child just says “shouldn’t have complained.”

Now occasionally, the first child will act up, in fact, in some ways, they act up the same amount or more than the neglected child. And a lot of the time, the parent will look the other way. But sometimes, the parent will actually give that child a little spanking too.

Meanwhile that child is still shitting on the neglected child who is getting FAR worse treatment.

 Can you at least a little bit understand why it’s difficult for the  neglected child to get upset when the preferred child gets their spanking, even if that specific time they might not have deserved it?

Eh... you should not see your country as a parent.

[Cream]

I am telling you that having a good goal is not enough. You can't carebear stare the world. You have to have competence in how you go about things and if you don't then people will see the bad stuff and remember it. We are predisposed to emphasize negative response and negative experience.

So how would you suggest tackling the problem of a total disregard for the discrepancy and disproportionate treatment of black people by the law? And what should that group be called?

I know! I know! We ban the sales of frozen peaches! That would help, surely!

Here’s how I personally see it I think.

Imagine America is a parent, and minorities and white people are their two children. One child gets a lot more love and care and attention. More opportunities. And when they act up, the punishment isnt as bad. That said America is still a shitty parent so they do a lot of awful shit to that child too.

Also it’s really easy for one child to make up things about the other child so that the already unfair treatment towards them is even worse.

Neither child is perfect, but one child got a much much much much better head start. The other child really hasn’t been given more than table scraps in comparison.

And when this more neglected child complains about this treatment, they are often shittalked by the other child, so the parent treats them worse STILL, and the other child just says “shouldn’t have complained.”

Now occasionally, the first child will act up, in fact, in some ways, they act up the same amount or more than the neglected child. And a lot of the time, the parent will look the other way. But sometimes, the parent will actually give that child a little spanking too.

Meanwhile that child is still shitting on the neglected child who is getting FAR worse treatment.

 Can you at least a little bit understand why it’s difficult for the  neglected child to get upset when the preferred child gets their spanking, even if that specific time they might not have deserved it?

Eh... you should not see your country as a parent.

I don’t. Sorry, it’s the first metaphor that came to mind.

 In actuality the parent and the preferred child are one in the same

[jorma]

I am telling you that having a good goal is not enough. You can't carebear stare the world. You have to have competence in how you go about things and if you don't then people will see the bad stuff and remember it. We are predisposed to emphasize negative response and negative experience.

So how would you suggest tackling the problem of a total disregard for the discrepancy and disproportionate treatment of black people by the law? And what should that group be called?

I know! I know! We ban the sales of frozen peaches! That would help, surely!

Here’s how I personally see it I think.

Imagine America is a parent, and minorities and white people are their two children. One child gets a lot more love and care and attention. More opportunities. And when they act up, the punishment isnt as bad. That said America is still a shitty parent so they do a lot of awful shit to that child too.

Also it’s really easy for one child to make up things about the other child so that the already unfair treatment towards them is even worse.

Neither child is perfect, but one child got a much much much much better head start. The other child really hasn’t been given more than table scraps in comparison.

And when this more neglected child complains about this treatment, they are often shittalked by the other child, so the parent treats them worse STILL, and the other child just says “shouldn’t have complained.”

Now occasionally, the first child will act up, in fact, in some ways, they act up the same amount or more than the neglected child. And a lot of the time, the parent will look the other way. But sometimes, the parent will actually give that child a little spanking too.

Meanwhile that child is still shitting on the neglected child who is getting FAR worse treatment.

 Can you at least a little bit understand why it’s difficult for the  neglected child to get upset when the preferred child gets their spanking, even if that specific time they might not have deserved it?

Eh... you should not see your country as a parent.

You should see it as a daddy

Being Swedish i see it as a nanny.

[Straight Edge]

I find it hilarious when people on ERA don't believe that I'm a bleeding heart lib. I've probably done more ACTUAL real world activism to make society better than they will ever do.

Correct dogma on REEE is more important than actual effort

[Optimus]

I am telling you that having a good goal is not enough. You can't carebear stare the world. You have to have competence in how you go about things and if you don't then people will see the bad stuff and remember it. We are predisposed to emphasize negative response and negative experience.

So how would you suggest tackling the problem of a total disregard for the discrepancy and disproportionate treatment of black people by the law? And what should that group be called?

I know! I know! We ban the sales of frozen peaches! That would help, surely!

Here’s how I personally see it I think.

Imagine America is a parent, and minorities and white people are their two children. One child gets a lot more love and care and attention. More opportunities. And when they act up, the punishment isnt as bad. That said America is still a shitty parent so they do a lot of awful shit to that child too.

Also it’s really easy for one child to make up things about the other child so that the already unfair treatment towards them is even worse.

Neither child is perfect, but one child got a much much much much better head start. The other child really hasn’t been given more than table scraps in comparison.

And when this more neglected child complains about this treatment, they are often shittalked by the other child, so the parent treats them worse STILL, and the other child just says “shouldn’t have complained.”

Now occasionally, the first child will act up, in fact, in some ways, they act up the same amount or more than the neglected child. And a lot of the time, the parent will look the other way. But sometimes, the parent will actually give that child a little spanking too.

Meanwhile that child is still shitting on the neglected child who is getting FAR worse treatment.

 Can you at least a little bit understand why it’s difficult for the  neglected child to get upset when the preferred child gets their spanking, even if that specific time they might not have deserved it?

And then there's the naughty sister, she's Asian and wears these cute anime mini skirts. And the daddy spanks the sister regularly because she's bad but they both like it. Why is your bottom so red, asks the black brother when he accidentally sees her naked going out of the bathroom. Let me show you says the sister.

[Cream]

I am telling you that having a good goal is not enough. You can't carebear stare the world. You have to have competence in how you go about things and if you don't then people will see the bad stuff and remember it. We are predisposed to emphasize negative response and negative experience.

So how would you suggest tackling the problem of a total disregard for the discrepancy and disproportionate treatment of black people by the law? And what should that group be called?

I know! I know! We ban the sales of frozen peaches! That would help, surely!

Here’s how I personally see it I think.

Imagine America is a parent, and minorities and white people are their two children. One child gets a lot more love and care and attention. More opportunities. And when they act up, the punishment isnt as bad. That said America is still a shitty parent so they do a lot of awful shit to that child too.

Also it’s really easy for one child to make up things about the other child so that the already unfair treatment towards them is even worse.

Neither child is perfect, but one child got a much much much much better head start. The other child really hasn’t been given more than table scraps in comparison.

And when this more neglected child complains about this treatment, they are often shittalked by the other child, so the parent treats them worse STILL, and the other child just says “shouldn’t have complained.”

Now occasionally, the first child will act up, in fact, in some ways, they act up the same amount or more than the neglected child. And a lot of the time, the parent will look the other way. But sometimes, the parent will actually give that child a little spanking too.

Meanwhile that child is still shitting on the neglected child who is getting FAR worse treatment.

 Can you at least a little bit understand why it’s difficult for the  neglected child to get upset when the preferred child gets their spanking, even if that specific time they might not have deserved it?

And then there's the naughty sister, she's Asian and wears these cute anime mini skirts. And the daddy spanks the sister regularly because she's bad but they both like it. Why is your bottom so red, asks the black brother when he accidentally sees her naked going out of the bathroom. Let me show you says the sister.

I’m conflicted about this post. 🤔

[Optimus]

Only constructive criticism please, this is my first short story.

[Cream]

Only constructive criticism please, this is my first short story.

Well I mean what does the Asian sister show the black brother

[Optimus]

Only constructive criticism please, this is my first short story.

Well I mean what does the Asian sister show the black brother

Chapter 2 hasn't been written yet.

[benjipwns]

i thought we were only supposed to use car metaphors

like say there's some uppity flashy car with rims trying to pass you by going OVER the SPEED LIMIT (as given to us by our majority government blessed be upon it) then you link hands with the white box truck next to you to hold them back, going under the speed limit forever

teaching them a lesson about their place or something

[Cream]

Only constructive criticism please, this is my first short story.

Well I mean what does the Asian sister show the black brother

Chapter 2 hasn't been written yet.

Well chapter 1 got me to subscribe and leave a comment.

Post two more chapters and I’ll give a review and my otp

[nudemacusers]

Only constructive criticism please, this is my first short story.

Well I mean what does the Asian sister show the black brother

How to be a model minority

[tummyfat]

America has 1000 children and 777 of them are white.

[etiolate]

You 'perpetuate a lie for social gain' or whatever it is he last said on it, I don't remember it well enough

All you need to understand is that you do not understand and carry forth from there.

There is a lot of comparison between Gamergate, BLM and even metoo. Hashtag movements have problems by their very nature, as they tend to sacrifice structure for speed of dispersal. What makes GG different was that it criticized the press that then had the power to trash it dishonestly.

[Rufus]

How much did it pain you to append "dishonestly"?

[Cream]

You 'perpetuate a lie for social gain' or whatever it is he last said on it, I don't remember it well enough

All you need to understand is that you do not understand and carry forth from there.

There is a lot of comparison between Gamergate, BLM and even metoo. Hashtag movements have problems by their very nature, as they tend to sacrifice structure for speed of dispersal. What makes GG different was that it criticized the press that then had the power to trash it dishonestly.

....but that DOESNT apply to BLM and metoo?!

[benjipwns]

All you need to understand is that you do not understand and carry forth from there.

There is a lot of comparison between Gamergate, BLM and even metoo. Hashtag movements have problems by their very nature, as they tend to sacrifice structure for speed of dispersal. What makes GG different was that it criticized the press that then had the power to trash it dishonestly.

....but that DOESNT apply to BLM and metoo?!

No, those aren't about important things, like ethics in games journalism.

[Phoenix Dark]

BLM would have higher support if it started out as "black lives matter too".  It would completely destroy the narrative of "white lives don't matter" that dumb people push and make that one comic with the burning house completely unnecessary.

But above all else, BLMT kind of looks like BLT.  People would start associating progress with delicious sandwiches.  That's a double positive right there.  The movement would take off with far less pushback and eventually there would be actual marketing deals involved, like with Subway.  BLMT would be the new Jared, just you know, without the pedophilia.

This is intellectually lazy. "BLM" does not insinuate that white lives matter less. The point is that black life is valued less in our society, and the statement is used to re-affirm something that should be obvious. Furthermore any competent black person can explain this to a white person...and in many cases they are STILL triggered. My view: if, even after explaining it, you still have a problem...you lost.


That being said BLM is a trash organization that hasn't accomplished anything. Whereas the Black Panthers were effective and had a major presence in the black community instead of sitting around on twitter all day. They also had a hierarchy, which goes to Etiolet's (good) point about these current groups of aimless agitators/ambulance chasers.

[Boredfrom]

You 'perpetuate a lie for social gain' or whatever it is he last said on it, I don't remember it well enough

All you need to understand is that you do not understand and carry forth from there.

There is a lot of comparison between Gamergate, BLM and even metoo. Hashtag movements have problems by their very nature, as they tend to sacrifice structure for speed of dispersal. What makes GG different was that it criticized the press that then had the power to trash it dishonestly.

Ayyyyy Etiolate. Honestly, get a grip and stop playing dumb. I don’t even disagree about online movements having its share of troubles, but is still mind blowing how you fail in congruence.

[Propagandhim]

I'd watch an asian porn where some hot chick just shows all the other races how to get high SAT scores and shit

[BisMarckie]

Final Fantasy IV > Vaping > Hashtag movements > Furries > The Witcher 3

[etiolate]

You 'perpetuate a lie for social gain' or whatever it is he last said on it, I don't remember it well enough

All you need to understand is that you do not understand and carry forth from there.

There is a lot of comparison between Gamergate, BLM and even metoo. Hashtag movements have problems by their very nature, as they tend to sacrifice structure for speed of dispersal. What makes GG different was that it criticized the press that then had the power to trash it dishonestly.

....but that DOESNT apply to BLM and metoo?!

Those movements had positive reinforcement in the press at the start, especially compared to GG. Like who would go against metoo? It took some false accusations and shit like Wu's to bring some heat.

Despite your view that it's white supremacy, you can attack cops and attack white people or attack men. If you attack the press then you're attacking the people who control your message. (If you're a hashtag movement.)

[benjipwns]

you can attack cops

I wouldn't suggest this be physically tested. Even with an iPhone

[etiolate]

You 'perpetuate a lie for social gain' or whatever it is he last said on it, I don't remember it well enough

All you need to understand is that you do not understand and carry forth from there.

There is a lot of comparison between Gamergate, BLM and even metoo. Hashtag movements have problems by their very nature, as they tend to sacrifice structure for speed of dispersal. What makes GG different was that it criticized the press that then had the power to trash it dishonestly.

Ayyyyy Etiolate. Honestly, get a grip and stop playing dumb. I don’t even disagree about online movements having its share of troubles, but is still mind blowing how you fail in congruence.

I'm saying there are similarities, but some differences. That's true. You're upset at the differences, but most would be mad at the very comparison.

[Phoenix Dark]

you can attack cops

I wouldn't suggest this be physically tested.

unless you're white in which case you'll probably be fine 

[etiolate]

you can attack cops

I wouldn't suggest this be physically tested.

Maybe Mandark can test out the verbal violence boundary with a cop?

[etiolate]

Final Fantasy IV > Vaping > Hashtag movements > Furries > The Witcher 3

 

[killamajig]

I find it hilarious when people on ERA don't believe that I'm a bleeding heart lib. I've probably done more ACTUAL real world activism to make society better than they will ever do.

I feel you brother. Back on  neogaf (I think it was during the Bundy standoff in the National Park) I was trying to explain something to someone and said I worked an anti gang unit in prison. I got the response of "Oh, I see you now" and I think they said they put me on ignore or something. I wasn't even saying anything pro or con I was just explaining something about these militia types that have Timothy McVeigh on their wall and jerk off while they're reading the Turner Diaries. I worked specifically against white supremacy groups in prison. I was just trying to shed some light on these militia types. I kind of got the feeling the Bundys were in that circle.

 I guess that poster from the BCT figured  there's only black gangs in prison and gangs like The Aryan Brotherhood, Posse Comitatus, White Aryan Resistance, The Fourth Reich etc. don't exist. The thing that pissed me off was that I was getting the side eye like I was some kind of white supremacist when I literally have scars on my body from getting slashed with a razor blade and a messed up finger for the rest of my life.

I'm not trying to sound like some white savior but it's a bit disheartening when somebody thinks you're some kind of Nazi after the shit I went through. And in a white supremacists eyes I'm worse than any minority because I'm a race traitor. If anybody's short on cash I think I'm still worth a bounty. But also be advised I sleep next to a loaded shotgun and pistol. So if you any of you AB peckerwoods are reading this come at me bro


#notallprisonguards

[benjipwns]

so many dogwhistles....getting light headed...

[Phoenix Dark]

Rick Ross over here, yall

[Rufus]

Despite your view that it's white supremacy, you can attack cops and attack white people or attack men. If you attack the press then you're attacking the people who control your message. (If you're a hashtag movement.)

How they're 'attacked' doesn't seem to figure into your equation at all, curiously. Before Gamergate, the press was criticised for impropriety as well (there was even a libel suit thrown at Eurogamer over it) and it actually engendered positive change in the press after a lot of introspection, without any major fallout.

Why was the same courtesy not extended to the supposedly sincere actors in GG? Is it because it pretty much instantly opened a front in the culture wars? You were almost there just a couple posts prior, but yet again you duck and weave.

[killamajig]

Rick Ross over here, yall

Shit that's right wasn't he a CO in Florida or something?

That's not probably a good look for him. Unless he was making bank bringing drugs into the prison. Most drugs get into prisons through the officers. Shocking ! LOL

Most days they didn't even search officers. I probably could have fucking smuggled in a 10 pound bindle and nobody would have caught me.

[seagrams hotsauce]

who cares. Rick Ross made classic banger Maybach Music II and put the nail in the coffin of 50 Cent's career, and we should all be grateful for both of those things

[Nintex]

So, minorities totally have free speech to complain about how they are treated?

But if they complain then it’s their fault we get Trump, so stop complaining?

When he wasn't stopped by the Access Hollywood tape, chanting to lock up his political opponent, telling he'd shoot someone in the face to proof he'd not lose voters, floating the conspiracy that Ted Cruz's dead killed JFK or calling John McCain a loser the election was decided.

Nothing could've stopped Trump from becoming president.

[Uncle]

BLM would have higher support if it started out as "black lives matter too".  It would completely destroy the narrative of "white lives don't matter" that dumb people push and make that one comic with the burning house completely unnecessary.

But above all else, BLMT kind of looks like BLT.  People would start associating progress with delicious sandwiches.  That's a double positive right there.  The movement would take off with far less pushback and eventually there would be actual marketing deals involved, like with Subway.  BLMT would be the new Jared, just you know, without the pedophilia.

This is intellectually lazy. "BLM" does not insinuate that white lives matter less. The point is that black life is valued less in our society, and the statement is used to re-affirm something that should be obvious. Furthermore any competent black person can explain this to a white person...and in many cases they are STILL triggered. My view: if, even after explaining it, you still have a problem...you lost.


That being said BLM is a trash organization that hasn't accomplished anything. Whereas the Black Panthers were effective and had a major presence in the black community instead of sitting around on twitter all day. They also had a hierarchy, which goes to Etiolet's (good) point about these current groups of aimless agitators/ambulance chasers.

I still think it would've been hilarious if the movement could've done a successful rebranding like "you're right white people, All Lives Matter.  We worded that wrong.  Thanks for the gentle correction, allies.  Since All Lives Matter and black people are dying disproportionately right now, we'll see you at the march on Tuesday, yeah?"

No, it might not change their minds, but it'd at least piss them off.  What could they possibly say, when it's pointed out that they apparently agree with the movement?

[Cream]

BLM would have higher support if it started out as "black lives matter too".  It would completely destroy the narrative of "white lives don't matter" that dumb people push and make that one comic with the burning house completely unnecessary.

But above all else, BLMT kind of looks like BLT.  People would start associating progress with delicious sandwiches.  That's a double positive right there.  The movement would take off with far less pushback and eventually there would be actual marketing deals involved, like with Subway.  BLMT would be the new Jared, just you know, without the pedophilia.

This is intellectually lazy. "BLM" does not insinuate that white lives matter less. The point is that black life is valued less in our society, and the statement is used to re-affirm something that should be obvious. Furthermore any competent black person can explain this to a white person...and in many cases they are STILL triggered. My view: if, even after explaining it, you still have a problem...you lost.


That being said BLM is a trash organization that hasn't accomplished anything. Whereas the Black Panthers were effective and had a major presence in the black community instead of sitting around on twitter all day. They also had a hierarchy, which goes to Etiolet's (good) point about these current groups of aimless agitators/ambulance chasers.

I still think it would've been hilarious if the movement could've done a successful rebranding like "you're right white people, All Lives Matter.  We worded that wrong.  Thanks for the gentle correction, allies.  Since All Lives Matter and black people are dying disproportionately right now, we'll see you at the march on Tuesday, yeah?"

No, it might not change their minds, but it'd at least piss them off.  What could they possibly say, when it's pointed out that they apparently agree with the movement?

“Well why aren’t you protesting this this this this and this that are all more important that whatever that black thing is?”

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jk-rowling-likes-another-transphobic-tweet-this-one-is-blatant.31208/

Is there a wall of shame on ERA?

excelsiorlef has to have like 200 posts in a 9 page thread.

[Uncle]

“Well why aren’t you protesting this this this this and this that are all more important that whatever that black thing is?”

"We're an evidence-based group that protests locally in favor of statistically worse off groups first, primarily those slain by police.  If that white guy was in poverty and was physically or mentally disabled then you might have something, sure."

[Nabbis]

Il take your word for it. I have no idea who they are. 

[nudemacusers]

I didn’t realize for the longest time that Rick Ross and Rick Rubin were different people.

[I'm a Puppy!]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jk-rowling-likes-another-transphobic-tweet-this-one-is-blatant.31208/

Is there a wall of shame on ERA?

excelsiorlef has to have like 200 posts in a 9 page thread.

To be fair, she's not wrong about man-in-dress trans activism.

[BisMarckie]

To be fair, she's not wrong about man-in-dress trans activism.

I am not talking about what anybody's saying, in fact I haven't read a single post. I just look at these threads to see who got banned and was amazed by the sheer volume of posts.

[blaze]

It's really weird they still can't or don't say Neogaf there "the old place" etc. It's so silly.

[Optimus]

BLM would have higher support if it started out as "black lives matter too".  It would completely destroy the narrative of "white lives don't matter" that dumb people push and make that one comic with the burning house completely unnecessary.

But above all else, BLMT kind of looks like BLT.  People would start associating progress with delicious sandwiches.  That's a double positive right there.  The movement would take off with far less pushback and eventually there would be actual marketing deals involved, like with Subway.  BLMT would be the new Jared, just you know, without the pedophilia.

This is intellectually lazy. "BLM" does not insinuate that white lives matter less. The point is that black life is valued less in our society, and the statement is used to re-affirm something that should be obvious. Furthermore any competent black person can explain this to a white person...and in many cases they are STILL triggered. My view: if, even after explaining it, you still have a problem...you lost.


That being said BLM is a trash organization that hasn't accomplished anything. Whereas the Black Panthers were effective and had a major presence in the black community instead of sitting around on twitter all day. They also had a hierarchy, which goes to Etiolet's (good) point about these current groups of aimless agitators/ambulance chasers.

I still think it would've been hilarious if the movement could've done a successful rebranding like "you're right white people, All Lives Matter.  We worded that wrong.  Thanks for the gentle correction, allies.  Since All Lives Matter and black people are dying disproportionately right now, we'll see you at the march on Tuesday, yeah?"

No, it might not change their minds, but it'd at least piss them off.  What could they possibly say, when it's pointed out that they apparently agree with the movement?

How unrealistic. This sounds too smart, diplomatic and non-confrontational to even be considered by an identity politics group from either side.

[Nabbis]

BLM would have higher support if it started out as "black lives matter too".  It would completely destroy the narrative of "white lives don't matter" that dumb people push and make that one comic with the burning house completely unnecessary.

But above all else, BLMT kind of looks like BLT.  People would start associating progress with delicious sandwiches.  That's a double positive right there.  The movement would take off with far less pushback and eventually there would be actual marketing deals involved, like with Subway.  BLMT would be the new Jared, just you know, without the pedophilia.

This is intellectually lazy. "BLM" does not insinuate that white lives matter less. The point is that black life is valued less in our society, and the statement is used to re-affirm something that should be obvious. Furthermore any competent black person can explain this to a white person...and in many cases they are STILL triggered. My view: if, even after explaining it, you still have a problem...you lost.


That being said BLM is a trash organization that hasn't accomplished anything. Whereas the Black Panthers were effective and had a major presence in the black community instead of sitting around on twitter all day. They also had a hierarchy, which goes to Etiolet's (good) point about these current groups of aimless agitators/ambulance chasers.

I still think it would've been hilarious if the movement could've done a successful rebranding like "you're right white people, All Lives Matter.  We worded that wrong.  Thanks for the gentle correction, allies.  Since All Lives Matter and black people are dying disproportionately right now, we'll see you at the march on Tuesday, yeah?"

No, it might not change their minds, but it'd at least piss them off.  What could they possibly say, when it's pointed out that they apparently agree with the movement?

How unrealistic. This sounds too smart, diplomatic and non-confrontational to even be considered by an identity politics group from either side.

Oh cmon, social movements being civil and coherent? 

The only actual thing where i think BLM truly fucked up was not having a prominent figure guiding the hysteria.

[clothedmacuser]

Here’s how I personally see it I think.

Imagine America is a parent, and minorities and white people are their two children. One child gets a lot more love and care and attention. More opportunities. And when they act up, the punishment isnt as bad. That said America is still a shitty parent so they do a lot of awful shit to that child too.

Also it’s really easy for one child to make up things about the other child so that the already unfair treatment towards them is even worse.

Neither child is perfect, but one child got a much much much much better head start. The other child really hasn’t been given more than table scraps in comparison.

And when this more neglected child complains about this treatment, they are often shittalked by the other child, so the parent treats them worse STILL, and the other child just says “shouldn’t have complained.”

Now occasionally, the first child will act up, in fact, in some ways, they act up the same amount or more than the neglected child. And a lot of the time, the parent will look the other way. But sometimes, the parent will actually give that child a little spanking too.

Meanwhile that child is still shitting on the neglected child who is getting FAR worse treatment.

 Can you at least a little bit understand why it’s difficult for the  neglected child to get upset when the preferred child gets their spanking, even if that specific time they might not have deserved it?

Is this post a parable about Exelsiorif and Labor vs everyone else.

[etiolate]

RIP Shosta

[cosmicblizzard]

BLM would have higher support if it started out as "black lives matter too".  It would completely destroy the narrative of "white lives don't matter" that dumb people push and make that one comic with the burning house completely unnecessary.

But above all else, BLMT kind of looks like BLT.  People would start associating progress with delicious sandwiches.  That's a double positive right there.  The movement would take off with far less pushback and eventually there would be actual marketing deals involved, like with Subway.  BLMT would be the new Jared, just you know, without the pedophilia.

This is intellectually lazy. "BLM" does not insinuate that white lives matter less. The point is that black life is valued less in our society, and the statement is used to re-affirm something that should be obvious. Furthermore any competent black person can explain this to a white person...and in many cases they are STILL triggered. My view: if, even after explaining it, you still have a problem...you lost.

That's my point though.  A lot of fragile white people (and really non-white people as well) really are THAT stupid that they see it as a legit "white lives matter less" statement.  You have to dumb something down as much as you can for the baby snowflakes until they get it because they want to insert themselves into everything even when it's 99% obviously not about them.  At that point, the more malicious ones will just start making shit up, which has a lot less clout.

[TVC15]

Where the fuck is Shostakovich when we need him?

His recon work at our hate site was complete. He’s returned his findings to beseda and left us.

[BisMarckie]

His recon work at our hate site was complete. He’s returned his findings to beseda and left us.

And that man's name: Bobby Roberts

[Bore Expert]

His recon work at our hate site was complete. He’s returned his findings to beseda and left us.

And that man's name: Ted Danson

There was a Sithlord amongst us the whole time 

[Uncle]

That's my point though.  A lot of fragile white people (and really non-white people as well) really are THAT stupid that they see it as a legit "white lives matter less" statement.  You have to dumb something down as much as you can for the baby snowflakes until they get it because they want to insert themselves into everything even when it's 99% obviously not about them.  At that point, the more malicious ones will just start making shit up, which has a lot less clout.

And we have actual examples of seemingly more successful hashtags like #metoo, which is vague enough to see global use.  Guys can say #metoo, and have.  If they don't realize it means "I too have been sexually assaulted," they can consider it to mean "I too stand with women on this issue," and be welcomed.

[benjipwns]

It's really weird they still can't or don't say Neogaf there "the old place" etc. It's so silly.

Many of us have come from someplace else and have nowhere else to go. We must be humble and mindful of this fact. As we adapt and recreate the homes we’ve lost, we must be conscious and leave certain things behind. We must shape them in a more perfect vision. If we aim to create someplace respectable and dignified, we must individually uphold those values. While first and foremost this is a hobby forum, it also aims to be much more than that for hundreds of its members. This is our pocket world. It’s our place to go. We are all each other’s neighbors and must treat each other as such.

There is no place else on the internet like what we are trying to build. We must take it seriously.

As you post and get acclimated with our new forum, channel your energy into reconstruction. Do not fall victim to petty arguments, do not capitalize on every opportunity to be negative, and remember that everyone here is a refugee. Seek positive conversation. Remove your ironic veil and speak honestly. Post thoughtfully and thoroughly and remember everything you contribute is a building block. Do not let our menagerie collapse under the same heavy-handed negativity that defines other forums we find distasteful.

Do not forget where you came from, but focus on our future. Everyone here comes from somewhere else and we mustn’t cling to our nostalgia. This is a new era free from the burden of history. Embrace your new home, believe in its livelihood, and relish in this occasion. Do not fall victim to the false comforts of the past. Remember why we are moving forward and do so with pride.

[benjipwns]

Is there a wall of shame on ERA?

excelsiorlef has to have like 200 posts in a 9 page thread.

Conversation is invigorated by dissent. It is natural to disagree with your fellow posters and it is commendable to take a stance on something you believe in. If you argue, do so in good faith. Allow members to speak their mind and answer them sincerely. Do not declare your fellow member a lost cause before the conversation has had the chance to conclude. Certain values are non-negotiable, but not every argument is untenable and we must allow one another the space to disagree.

Restrain your urge to hyperbolize. Exaggeration overstates your investment and encourages extreme responses from others who feel the need to mirror your position. Attempt to articulate why you care about things, or how things make you feel, and leave room for others to respond at different levels of intensity.