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[Transhuman]

trans i a tard so it's ok.

[clothedmacuser]

Disingenuous and misleading both sidism throughout the conversation, followed by whataboutism, to intentionally muddy the conversation and attempt to deflect into an off topic discussion.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sarah-sanders-and-family-reportedly-denied-service-at-virginia-restaurant.51025/page-30#post-9633371

oh god, someday if we are lucky this will be a ban message.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

large picture.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

"you people buying equal sided... this would seem a devised scheme disguised as a match"

how did this mother fucker call all this?

[daemon]

This is just the standard fanfare of "both sides" liberals. Hitler and Mary Poppins both deserve a platform because if we dont give someone a platform we're the Nazis.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sarah-sanders-and-family-reportedly-denied-service-at-virginia-restaurant.51025/page-30#post-9632752

A very apt comparison.

Mary Poppins liked kids



(it was the only source for that picture, don't kill me)

[Coitus]

The bakery and restaurant examples are nothing alike.

The baker denied service for the custom message cake but offered to sell any of the premade cakes.

The restaurant didn't want to serve that specific person, and it wasn't because he asked for a dish not in the menu.


I still don't understand why the baker was at fault, honestly. You need to do some mental gymnastics to equate it to homophobia or anything like that, really.

There was not going to be a message on the cake. It was just going to be a custom cake. The baker felt that having one of his precious works of art in a sodomite wedding would be message enough.

[Transhuman]

It's a lose-lose situation. In a private business you should be allowed to refuse service, with the only real effect being getting bad reviews for it. if you're an asshole to enough people you'll throw your own business under the bus.

Or not; since your "private business" isn't really private, and is open to the public and licensed by the municipality that public pays taxes too.

"Private Business" including quotation marks would be a great name for a HBO show about a businessman who decides to become a male stripper after the 2008 financial crisis.

[Uncle]

It's a lose-lose situation. In a private business you should be allowed to refuse service, with the only real effect being getting bad reviews for it. if you're an asshole to enough people you'll throw your own business under the bus.

Or not; since your "private business" isn't really private, and is open to the public and licensed by the municipality that public pays taxes too.

Right, so either you're private and have the right to refuse to bake cakes/serve specific people you don't like, or you're public and you don't have the right to do those things

[daemon]

It's a lose-lose situation. In a private business you should be allowed to refuse service, with the only real effect being getting bad reviews for it. if you're an asshole to enough people you'll throw your own business under the bus.

Or not; since your "private business" isn't really private, and is open to the public and licensed by the municipality that public pays taxes too.

"a company that is not owned by the government:"

being open to the public would be the interaction method, doesn't change how private the business is. You should still be able to deny business without specifying reasons. We're in a day and age where you can find commodities like a bakery on a fairly common basis. Same with restaurants. MAking a big fuss over something that is actually a non-issue (as in, the impact it can have on people's life is nearly meaningless). Now if they said: I don't want to sell this available item to you because you're gay... that I have a problem with. When I use deny a service I mean deny doing something explicitly for that client because it can negatively impact your or your business.

I understand, for example, the muslim woman from target that didn't sell alcohol based on her faith. She explicitly told her employers, and a bad time schedule had her in the awkward situation of having to deny service to a client. And since her employers knew and hired her, she was right to abide by her religious beliefs, considering that not selling an alcoholic beverage shouldn't ruin anyone's day. And neither should being denied service at a bakery. Now if it was a situation where the baker accepted the request then cancelled it, we would be in another context altogether. But yeah, I just don't see how denying a service from the start can become such a burden. Same with the restaurant thing. We don't like the shit you spout, and we certainly don't want you pissing off other customers or giving a bad impression of our business. So we reserve the right of admission. buh-bye.

[daemon]

I don't see how not being allowed to deny a service is such a burden.

Or how one employee refusing to do something even relates at all, whatsoever.

Sorry? It's the same, refusing to serve based on religious belief. Not to mention that one is simply cashing in a whisky bottle and the other one is an elaborate professional project where you have to directly participate.

[daemon]

I don't see how not being allowed to deny a service is such a burden.

Or how one employee refusing to do something even relates at all, whatsoever.

Sorry? It's the same

Except the business didn't deny them service, they have more than one register person.

Not remotely "the same."

Imagine having to queue up again for another cashier because barcode didn't fit the muslim woman criteria. Now imagine defending it while you think denial of service shouldn't be a thing. Goddamn, lol.


The fun thing is that right of admission is an unspoken rule that doesn't seem to gravitate towards legal trouble, despite being a right of denial of service. based on stuff like... dress code. Which is a classist move that discriminates in itself. But we know where people can make big bucks and why they stir the pot. You know it, I know it... everyone knows it.

And again, if it was along the lines of "didn't serve my available stock because I don't want to sell it to a gay person", i'd be totally in for heavy fines. Because that's not denial of service with good reason, since the only reason possible would be direct discrimination.

[Transhuman]

I don't see how not being allowed to deny a service is such a burden.

I mean yeah I mean if you object to them being in your restaraunt you can still glower at them or whatever. Just because you're legally obligated to provide a service doesn't mean you have to make them feel welcome.

Like how black people were treated in post-segregation America..

[daemon]

Imagine having to queue up again for another cashier because barcode didn't fit the muslim woman criteria. Now imagine defending it while you think denial of service shouldn't be a thing. Goddamn, lol.

I didn't defend anything; the fuck?

I simply said it doesn't relate.  A business owner gets a license and has to abide by the rules; an individual employee is just an employee.  The business has to make sure the laws are abided by but it's up to them to allow individual employees to do certain things.

Also doesn't relate because being able to buy alcohol isn't a protected class like being gay is in Portland.  Godamn, l,ol.

That's true, the employee-employer thing is relevant in this case and it flew over my head. I'm drunk. bye xD

[Transhuman]

I don't want to see my two dads fight like this

[agrajag]

I don't want to see my two dads fight like this

post a full list of your Bore dads

[TVC15]

[TVC15]

[TVC15]

Wow, this is remarkably similar to the story of how Mandark and I met.

[Transhuman]

I don't want to see my two dads fight like this

post a full list of your Bore dads

Well first you have the low level posters. I'm talking your etiolate's, assimilate's and the like. These are my little kids (not to be confused with my little babies like marrec who still arn't fully grown). Then you've got my brothers and siblings. I'm talking your Momo's and your TVC'S and your kris's. Next you got your dads like Mupepe and riotous and Joe, dads who will always love you and take care of u. Not to be confused with an uncle, someone like filler, he seems like a dad, but he doesn't have those dadly instincts and you don't really know him that well. Then you got your g-dads, Rumbler and Demi. They been through some wars in their day but you're still the apple of their eye and bring tears of joy to their wrinkled faces.

[TVC15]

I’m 37! How do I not rank higher. That is some bull. Shit.

[Nola]

It's a lose-lose situation. In a private business you should be allowed to refuse service, with the only real effect being getting bad reviews for it. if you're an asshole to enough people you'll throw your own business under the bus.

In theory sure, but in reality it doesn't always work out that way, the market doesn't end up being a natural correction for discrimination, often times it actually ends up re-enforcing it see: the segregated businesses of the south or red-lining.

So to address that you get laws like the Civil Rights Act that made it illegal to discriminate or deny service based on gender, race, or nationality. I'm personally in the camp that sexuality should be in that number, see the Colorado bakery nonsense.

But yeah, if you want to tell me to kick rocks because you found out I'm pro-choice and pro gun control, sure, go for it, political speech isn't a protected class and there doesn't seem to be an apparent need for it.

[agrajag]

 

I’m 37! How do I not rank higher. That is some bull. Shit.

you're like that old guy who still hasn't graduated and stays in the dorm and goes to all the parties

 

[Transhuman]

I’m 37! How do I not rank higher. That is some bull. Shit.

You're not that kind of daddy

[TVC15]

I’m 37! How do I not rank higher. That is some bull. Shit.

You're not that kind of daddy

I just went out and murdered a pregnant homeless teen because of how you made me feel.

[TVC15]

This place is fuck boring tonight. Bring the fun.

[Transhuman]

My friend Devon who has MD and lives in America described to me this short pregnant cute half-asian diner waitress to me once and honestly it was the most affection for someone i've ever felt and I never even really knew what she looked like.

[TVC15]

My friend Devon who has MD and lives in America described to me this short pregnant cute half-asian diner waitress to me once and honestly it was the most affection for someone i've ever felt and I never even really knew what she looked like.

[Transhuman]

TVC I could sing way better than those glittery hoes if u give me the chance

[TVC15]

TVC I could sing way better than those glittery hoes if u give me the chance

But you can’t match that tuck.

[Transhuman]

Please bitch I was tucking my dick and balls back way before I ever saw Silence of the Lambs. I thought that was where you were supposed to keep em. But it got harder and harder to do once my cock reached monster proportions.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

6 inches if i'm really trying

[close]

[Transhuman]

Does anyone else's dick get really thick when they masturbate in the shower? I feel like mine absorbs the water or something.

[Transhuman]

Man my dealer fucked me this weed isn't doing andything.

[agrajag]

[Transhuman]

Fine you don't believe me bitch?

[VomKriege]

I’m 37! How do I not rank higher. That is some bull. Shit.

you're like that old guy who still hasn't graduated and stays in the dorm and goes to all the parties

 

The Bore is basically a class with only that type in it.

[TVC15]

Please bitch I was tucking my dick and balls back way before I ever saw Silence of the Lambs. I thought that was where you were supposed to keep em. But it got harder and harder to do once my cock reached monster proportions.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

6 inches if i'm really trying

[close]

If you’re making claims, show us pics. Your tuck ain’t dat. Your pussy is gross.

[agrajag]

is it true that trans-girls have monster dix because the tuck stretches them out?

[Transhuman]

I’m 37! How do I not rank higher. That is some bull. Shit.

you're like that old guy who still hasn't graduated and stays in the dorm and goes to all the parties

 

The Bore is basically a class with only that type in it.

the bore



NeoGaf



Resetera

[Transhuman]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0MQhuJgZ3Hc

How long do drugs last

[agrajag]

I love the fragility of your performance. Really nails the inner torment of a cross-dreasing psychopath moments before stowing away his latest victim in the meat freezer. 10/10

[VomKriege]

Drunken thoughts don't really warrant their own threads.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tell-me-about-ya-casinis-i-drunk-sort-of.51159/

ResetEra to a bland state

[Shuri]

The Zimbabwe president bombing attempt thread getting 6 replies in 8 hours show how little Resetera cares about the stare of things in African news affairs unless it’s linked to a Disney movie.

Fakers...

[agrajag]

"Zimbabwe forever" just doesn't roll off the tongue like that

[Cauliflower Of Love]

toon link

omg

you gotta have no self respect to pick that name.

[paprikastaude]

toon link

omg

you gotta have no self respect to pick that name.

Now what does it say about a community if you make such a person mod. 

The Zimbabwe president bombing attempt thread getting 6 replies in 8 hours show how little Resetera cares about the stare of things in African news affairs unless it’s linked to a Disney movie.

Fakers...

I think it's more important to talk about the inappropriate shoes that Melania Trump is wearing.

[kingv]

is it true that trans-girls have monster dix because the tuck stretches them out?

The trans-girls you've seen have monster dicks because you've been watching transwomen porn.

Before Cindi turned Republican she mentioned something about the hormones made it so your dick doesn’t work quite right sexually, and that trans porn performers were probably going on and off hormones to be able to perform.

[tiesto]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-social-justice-have-an-image-problem.51057/

and the award for most lacking in self-awareness goes to

Op drops questionable thread and disappears is this normal?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-social-justice-have-an-image-problem.51057/page-3#post-9627476

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-social-justice-have-an-image-problem.51057/page-2#post-9622514

I'm all 5. I have no issue being rude or playing armchair psychologist. Doesn't take a degree to call you out. I'm an asshole, unreasonable, unflinching and I love it. I don't bend over to Nazis, Racists, and Misogynistic's. I fight them and their allies the Centrists.

All the urine-marinated steak has gone to his brain I guess.

[thisismyusername]

Does anyone else's dick get really thick when they masturbate in the shower? I feel like mine absorbs the water or something.

Prove it.

[REDPILLALPH ABIGCOCK]

toon link

omg

you gotta have no self respect to pick that name.

They missed an r I guess

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Why is toon link so prevalent?

Did people notice that sweet nicole is fucking stupid?

Love & Respect

I wonder if this dumbass realizes how much of a hypocrite they are.

[Leadbelly]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-social-justice-have-an-image-problem.51057/

and the award for most lacking in self-awareness goes to

Op drops questionable thread and disappears is this normal?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-social-justice-have-an-image-problem.51057/page-3#post-9627476

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-social-justice-have-an-image-problem.51057/page-2#post-9622514

I'm all 5. I have no issue being rude or playing armchair psychologist. Doesn't take a degree to call you out. I'm an asshole, unreasonable, unflinching and I love it. I don't bend over to Nazis, Racists, and Misogynistic's. I fight them and their allies the Centrists.

All the urine-marinated steak has gone to his brain I guess.

Their allies the centrists. lol

They really have it in for centrists. There is a real lack of understanding of what the aims of centrists actually are, I notice. They seem to think they advocate for the far-right and far-left having equal representation at the negotiating table, when in reality it is an appeal for the middle with the hope that the far-left and far-right don't fuck things up too much.

There is something kind of boring and safe about centrism. I don't like the way it kind of waters down real political choice. I want to see parties that actually stand for something. That said, you have to be kind of nuts to see them aand refer to them in the same light as Nazis.

[Mr Gilhaney]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-24-imagining-world-of-warcraft-in-jerusalem 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I want to see parties that actually stand for something. That said, you have to be kind of nuts to see them aand refer to them in the same light as Nazis.

Keep fucking that chicken.

[Leadbelly]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-24-imagining-world-of-warcraft-in-jerusalem 

lol

"I like video games. Can we just talk about video games?"

There was another dumb article I came across recently.

Netflix comms boss Jonathan Friedland sacked over 'N-word'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44585072

Reading this article I came to this part:

Mr Hastings detailed two instances when Mr Friedland was said to have used the offensive term.

The first incident was at a meeting with the public relations team to discuss sensitive words.

“Several people afterwards told him how inappropriate and hurtful his use of the N-word was, and Jonathan apologised to those that had been in the meeting,” Mr Hastings wrote.

“We hoped this was an awful anomaly never to be repeated.”

The first thing I thought was, "am I reading this right?". They have a public relations meeting where they discuss sensitive words and the comms boss brings up the N-word. Well, if you are discussing sensitive words you'd imagine that is the place to bring it up. And they obviously ascertained exactly how sensitive the word is.

I just... No words.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

shit just dropped.

[Assimilate]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-24-imagining-world-of-warcraft-in-jerusalem 

lol

"I like video games. Can we just talk about video games?"

There was another dumb article I came across recently.

Netflix comms boss Jonathan Friedland sacked over 'N-word'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44585072

Reading this article I came to this part:

Mr Hastings detailed two instances when Mr Friedland was said to have used the offensive term.

The first incident was at a meeting with the public relations team to discuss sensitive words.

“Several people afterwards told him how inappropriate and hurtful his use of the N-word was, and Jonathan apologised to those that had been in the meeting,” Mr Hastings wrote.

“We hoped this was an awful anomaly never to be repeated.”

The first thing I thought was, "am I reading this right?". They have a public relations meeting where they discuss sensitive words and the comms boss brings up the N-word. Well, if you are discussing sensitive words you'd imagine that is the place to bring it up. And they obviously ascertained exactly how sensitive the word is.

I just... No words.

That's wild. I wonder what the repercussions of all this craziness will be. There will be something, i just don't know what will manifest out of all this.

[Propagandhim]

What was the context?
"You should never say the word "distinguished black fellow" like our show, Dear White People demonstrates." 
 
or was it

"You should never say the word "distinguished black fellow".  distinguished black fellow is a bad word to say.  distinguished black fellow, distinguished black fellow, distinguished black fellow.  distinguished black fellow me this.  distinguished black fellow me that.  Like our show Dear White People demonstrates"

[Leadbelly]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-24-imagining-world-of-warcraft-in-jerusalem 

lol

"I like video games. Can we just talk about video games?"

There was another dumb article I came across recently.

Netflix comms boss Jonathan Friedland sacked over 'N-word'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44585072

Reading this article I came to this part:

Mr Hastings detailed two instances when Mr Friedland was said to have used the offensive term.

The first incident was at a meeting with the public relations team to discuss sensitive words.

“Several people afterwards told him how inappropriate and hurtful his use of the N-word was, and Jonathan apologised to those that had been in the meeting,” Mr Hastings wrote.

“We hoped this was an awful anomaly never to be repeated.”

The first thing I thought was, "am I reading this right?". They have a public relations meeting where they discuss sensitive words and the comms boss brings up the N-word. Well, if you are discussing sensitive words you'd imagine that is the place to bring it up. And they obviously ascertained exactly how sensitive the word is.

I just... No words.

That's wild. I wonder what the repercussions of all this craziness will be. There will be something, i just don't know what will manifest out of all this.

He could have censored himself, but then it seems the context of him saying it was just to discuss how to handle sensitive words like, like... the N-word. It just seems a little absurd to me. Although, I don't know what happened in the meeting. It seems unlikely he just waltzed into a meeting about sensitive words shouting, "nicca! LOL" at everyone though.

Personally I think context matters.

[agrajag]

maybe he was singing along to Freaky Friday

[Leadbelly]

maybe he was singing along to Freaky Friday

Well he said it twice it seems. The funny thing is though, the second time he said it was in discussion with HR about what happened. So he was basically explaining whaat happened in the meeting.

"Well, we were discussing sensitive words, and I brought up 'nicca'"

lol

http://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-23/netflixs-head-of-communications-sacked-over-n-word/

A few days later, in discussion with HR about the incident, he used the term again in front of two black employees, Mr Hastings said.

Based on the official statement given, there is no suggestion of racism. Instead it mentions 'low racial awarness' and 'sensitivity'.