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[curly]

Jack Remington/Peter Daou is Norman Bates, Hillary is the mother

Choke on a fucking dick, clown.

let the record show I brought Jack back, you all can thank me now 

[Boredfrom]

Yeah, but she didnt exactly high opinion of the citizenry to begin with as stuff like "deplorables" also hurt her a lot.

Hillary was an awful candidate but this being brought up always boggles my mind because Trump called all sorts of people all sorts of crap. Deplorable is a drop in the bucket yet you had people twisting themselves up in knots over it while trying to say "nicca" wasn't that bad at the same time.

Post-IronyTM

Believing all the Trump voters are alt right concern trolls is the other reason. The citizenry was foolish in believing in Trump, but has never been a wise tactic to generalize and label the supporters of your opponent during your election, specially if you promote yourself as the high road candidate.

Which is also exactly what Trump did for his entire campaign, which was basically a constant attack on "the other," including the tried and true Republican tactic of the deserving and undeserving poor, but supplemented with a pick-your-own adventure platform of populist promises(We will repeal Obamacare, get the government out of healthcare, but maybe we will have UHC and the government will pay for it, you decide!!). Buffered by the partisan outlets that conferred such enormous in-kind contributions to his general election campaign and have basically existed to appeal to and build up tribalism.

So we should totally blame citizenry for having a political system that encourages a black and white mentality?

No.

I think its far more complicated than what you are trying to whittle it down to, but citizens do deserve some responsibility for who they elect, or if they fail to exercise their vote and allow bad things to happen, yes. Would you not agree?

But that is far from the only thing at work here, which I think I have inferred. The citizenry can both be a victim at times(like through propaganda and manipulation) and at fault, sometimes concurrently, sometimes simultaneously, thats not a mutually exclusive notion I don't think.

But we are going down quite the rabbit hole over a pretty dumb Nintex post.

I did say that yes, they were foolish in electing Trump.

The citizenry was foolish in believing in Trump

Dunno why you believe I was arguing against that.

[Nola]

 

I would want someone that is good with money in those positions.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yeah, many rich people are awful with money and they dont deserve being wealthy, as Trump is prime example of that, but you are saying this in a party that promotes meritocracy as a social platform.

[close]

Its a response to this ridiculous inference that Hillary's deplorable comments were a class based attack and that Trump I would assume avoided such things.

I'd say claiming only rich people can be good with understanding money, and by extension are the only people with the prerequisite intelligence to be economic advisors is a pretty classist comment.

[Jenkem]

a "grandma" that tortures and rapes children in the basement of a pizza parlor

[Boredfrom]

 

I would want someone that is good with money in those positions.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yeah, many rich people are awful with money and they dont deserve being wealthy, as Trump is prime example of that, but you are saying this in a party that promotes meritocracy as a social platform.

[close]

Its a response to this ridiculous inference that Hillary's deplorable comments were a classiest attack and that Trump avoided such things.

I'd say claiming only rich people can be good with understanding money, and by extension are the only people with the prerequisite intelligence to be economic advisors is a pretty classist comment.

Is a classist comment that your country promotes "Work hard and you will get in the top".

Nola, come on.

[Nola]

Bored you are not even making any sense anymore.....Or maybe I’m not explaining myself clearly enough idk.

You honestly can’t see the difference between work hard and telling an audience that only rich people are intelligent enough to understand money and the economy?

If we are whining over “deplorable” being a classist attack, surely calling poor people too dumb to understand the economy lifts itself over that high bar, right?

That was the only point being made.

[agrajag]

My favorite meme of the 2016 elections was

"Trump is a successful businessman, he will run the country like his businesses"

 

[Boredfrom]

Bored you are not even making any sense anymore.

You honestly can’t see the difference between work hard and telling an audience that only rich people are intelligent enough to understand money and the economy?

You realize that a lot of the citizenry believes that Trump is rich because “he is a good entrepreneur and company owner”. That shitty TV show helped him a lot to give the impression he is a competent businessman for a lot of people.

[agrajag]

Bored you are not even making any sense anymore.

You honestly can’t see the difference between work hard and telling an audience that only rich people are intelligent enough to understand money and the economy?

You realize that a lot of the citizenry believes that Trump is rich because “he is a good entrepreneur and company owner”. That shitty TV show helped him a lot to give the impression he is a competent businessman for a lot of people.

And now they see him running the country like one of his businesses, just as they wanted

#MAGA

[etiolate]

Deplorable has a classist tone to it. It's a stand-in for wretched. I think she used to the term iredeemable in that speech, which is s our word choice in a country still touched by Christianity. Non-redeemable pretty much means not worth having alive.

  at this fragile pseudo-intellectual bullshit. "Deplorable" is weak as shit, especially coming from an old grandma in a pantsuit.

Any word usage by someone like her is carefully chosen by a bunch of politibrats, but her group had no feel for the situation. You ask how it could backfire so strongly when Trump said bad things. Trump attacked an outgroup. He's not going for a latino vote. Hilary needed the votes she sold out.


Perhaps you should chill out. You don't want on my shitlist.

[daemon]

Yeah, but she didnt exactly high opinion of the citizenry to begin with as stuff like "deplorables" also hurt her a lot.

Hillary was an awful candidate but this being brought up always boggles my mind because Trump called all sorts of people all sorts of crap. Deplorable is a drop in the bucket yet you had people twisting themselves up in knots over it while trying to say "nicca" wasn't that bad at the same time.

Post-IronyTM

If at this point this point you don't actually see why he won, you never will.

Honesty.

Honesty is when you put your blunt behavior in the front row instead of using 5 layers of PR in any communication.

It doesn't matter if it's truly honest or not, people perceive it as honest, because it makes them more human, with faults that we can relate to.



In a world when an apology is met with "not enough", "fake", "forced", "it's just PR to save face", sometimes the one saying "fuck your feelings" is the one to go with.

[Boredfrom]

Yeah, but she didnt exactly high opinion of the citizenry to begin with as stuff like "deplorables" also hurt her a lot.

Hillary was an awful candidate but this being brought up always boggles my mind because Trump called all sorts of people all sorts of crap. Deplorable is a drop in the bucket yet you had people twisting themselves up in knots over it while trying to say "nicca" wasn't that bad at the same time.

Post-IronyTM

If at this point this point you don't actually see why he won, you never will.

Honesty.

Honesty is when you put your blunt behavior in the front row instead of using 5 layers of PR in any communication.

It doesn't matter if it's truly honest or not, people perceive it as honest, because it makes them more human, with faults that we can relate to.



In a world when an apology is met with "not enough", "fake", "forced", "it's just PR to save face", sometimes the one saying "fuck your feelings" is the one to go with.

But, then again, that is a pretty shitty definition of honesty, specially since Trump can also go PR mode or sucking others dick in a whim.

[Nola]

Bored you are not even making any sense anymore.

You honestly can’t see the difference between work hard and telling an audience that only rich people are intelligent enough to understand money and the economy?

You realize that a lot of the citizenry believes that Trump is rich because “he is a good entrepreneur and company owner”. That shitty TV show helped him a lot to give the impression he is a competent businessman for a lot of people.

Of course, but thats not really relevant to the point I was making. Which maybe is where the confusion is coming from?

Setting aside whether deplorable was a classist attack, assuming it was for arguments sake, Republicans have always made classist appeals, and Trump is no different. I was just providing about the most concrete example of how....Though maybe I overestimated how clear an example it was since Ive spent more words explaining it than the quote actually is.

[daemon]

This is a garbage debate, and aside from Nola you’re all fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

[agrajag]

Perhaps you should chill out. You don't want on my shitlist.

Newsfeed

[Nola]

Yeah, but she didnt exactly high opinion of the citizenry to begin with as stuff like "deplorables" also hurt her a lot.

Hillary was an awful candidate but this being brought up always boggles my mind because Trump called all sorts of people all sorts of crap. Deplorable is a drop in the bucket yet you had people twisting themselves up in knots over it while trying to say "nicca" wasn't that bad at the same time.

Post-IronyTM

If at this point this point you don't actually see why he won, you never will.

Honesty.

Honesty is when you put your blunt behavior in the front row instead of using 5 layers of PR in any communication.

It doesn't matter if it's truly honest or not, people perceive it as honest, because it makes them more human, with faults that we can relate to.



In a world when an apology is met with "not enough", "fake", "forced", "it's just PR to save face", sometimes the one saying "fuck your feelings" is the one to go with.

An easier(and more accurate) phrase would be Trump offered the right appeals to emotion. Which some mis-perceived as honesty. He was by no means upfront with his behavior(Stormy, Karen, Sexual assault, his tax forms, his conflicts of interest, his shady business deals, his cronyism, his complete narcissism). Still, 70,000 votes in three states and losing the popular vote by millions. Lets not go overboard.

[agrajag]

Yeah, but she didnt exactly high opinion of the citizenry to begin with as stuff like "deplorables" also hurt her a lot.

Hillary was an awful candidate but this being brought up always boggles my mind because Trump called all sorts of people all sorts of crap. Deplorable is a drop in the bucket yet you had people twisting themselves up in knots over it while trying to say "nicca" wasn't that bad at the same time.

Post-IronyTM

If at this point this point you don't actually see why he won, you never will.

Honesty.

Honesty is when you put your blunt behavior in the front row instead of using 5 layers of PR in any communication.

It doesn't matter if it's truly honest or not, people perceive it as honest, because it makes them more human, with faults that we can relate to.



In a world when an apology is met with "not enough", "fake", "forced", "it's just PR to save face", sometimes the one saying "fuck your feelings" is the one to go with.

Trump is honest foh with that 

[Boredfrom]

Bored you are not even making any sense anymore.

You honestly can’t see the difference between work hard and telling an audience that only rich people are intelligent enough to understand money and the economy?

You realize that a lot of the citizenry believes that Trump is rich because “he is a good entrepreneur and company owner”. That shitty TV show helped him a lot to give the impression he is a competent businessman for a lot of people.

Of course, but thats not really relevant to the point I was making. Which maybe is where the confusion is coming from?

Setting aside whether deplorable was a classist attack, assuming it was for arguments sake, Republicans have always made classist appeals, and Trump is no different. I was just providing about the most concrete example of how....Though maybe I overestimated how clear an example it was since Ive spent more words explaining it than the quote actually is.

Republicans are classist, for sure, but a lot of people buy the party rethoric and dont consider this classist. Like many people still claiming that Trump is not racist while saying stuff like "shithole countries". Is stupid and foolish to believe that, but not unexpected. For the record, I believe people defending this kind of stuff is not longer excusable when the politician is actually elected and people can see clearly how shitty he or she is.

 

[etiolate]

If at this point this point you don't actually see why he won, you never will.

Honesty.

I know why he won, it’s been clear for a minute why. That’s not what anyone is debating, but it sure as shit wasn’t honesty. I and others have been making fun of the reaction to deplorable, especially considering the amount of shit flung at all sides. Reading comprehension might not be your strong suit.

Also etiolate you can miss me with the red pilled Obi-Wan shit you’ve been on. Try to have an actual discussion for once instead of whatever it is you’ve been doing.

You got approached with insight to a country that you're just an outsider to and responded like a buffoon. You don't know what a real discussion sounds like and you'll never find out with your current trajectory.

Hell, the fact you're making star wars references is a reflection of the level you're at right now. Maybe you can come back with Arrested Development meme?

[Boredfrom]

If at this point this point you don't actually see why he won, you never will.

Honesty.

I know why he won, it’s been clear for a minute why. That’s not what anyone is debating, but it sure as shit wasn’t honesty. I and others have been making fun of the reaction to deplorable, especially considering the amount of shit flung at all sides. Reading comprehension might not be your strong suit.

Also etiolate you can miss me with the red pilled Obi-Wan shit you’ve been on. Try to have an actual discussion for once instead of whatever it is you’ve been doing.

You got approached with insight to a country that you're just an outsider to and responded like a buffoon. You don't know what a real discussion sounds like and you'll never find out with your current trajectory.

Hell, the fact you're making star wars references is a reflection of the level you're at right now. Maybe you can come back with Arrested Development meme?

Dont get in your high horse Etiolate.

[agrajag]

[etiolate]

Every time I tell you horsefuckers basic information and you get mad, perhaps you should ask how you keep missing the obvious thing every time.

It's time you get a better retort than "I knew that."

[Nola]

Republicans are classist, for sure, but a lot of people buy the party rethoric and dont consider this classist. Like many people still claiming that Trump is not racist while saying stuff like "shithole countries". Is stupid and foolish to believe that, but not unexpected. For the record, I believe people defending this kind of stuff is not longer excusable when the politician is actually elected and people can see clearly how shitty he or she is.

Oh absolutely, there might not be a more successful rhetorical battle in American politics than the one won by the Republican party over the last several decades. That convinced the rural poor and white working class that the rich guys that fund the party and want to cut your Medicaid, Medicare, and pay you substandard wages to give themselves tax cuts have your best interests in mind, and the real enemy is the undeserving poor(I.E. minorities) and those that Republicans feel fight against that(Democrats, liberals, socialists etc.).

It has been incredibly successful at slowly neutralizing a class argument that the Democrats used to still have in their pocket in these areas post Civil Rights.

[etiolate]

Every time I tell you horsefuckers basic information and you get mad, perhaps you should ask how you keep missing the obvious thing every time.

It's time you get a better retort than "I knew that."

It’s more like you’re dumb enough to want to be applauded for providing the most basic shit and should step up your game instead of jerking yourself off every other post.

The longer this goes on, the longer you appear to be the one full of bullshit. You are the one who proposed the mystery of why deplorable backfired.

[etiolate]

You didn't get it. You got mad at people explaining it.

It's not a pleasure. It's sad.

[tuna_love]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6802461/

Generally speaking all the Simpsons characters are kind of crap people. It was that whole late 80s/early 90s trend of non-perfect/kinda bad characters becoming all the rage ... ie: Married With Children, Seinfeld, Roseanne, I guess even Melrose Place, etc. "Bad people who are kinda lovable" that whole thing.

Apu is probably as protrayed by the Simpsons the second smartest person in Springfield, I'd say it goes

Lisa > Apu > Marge > Smithers > Bart > Mr. Burns > Ned Flanders > Principal Skinner > Groundskeeper Willy > Krusty > Grandpa Simpson > Barney > Mayor Quimby > Homer > Chief Wiggum

From smartest to dumbest on the show of the main characters. Granted I haven't given a sh*t about the Simpsons since 1999 or so and have only watched a few episodes since then, but the "classic era" I know forwards and backwards.

professor frink > Ralph
what a fucking dumbass

[Boredfrom]

It was that whole late 80s/early 90s trend of non-perfect/kinda bad characters becoming all the rage ...

 

[agrajag]

Archie Bunker was the original Trump

[daemon]

No one was even called deplorable. The basket of deplorables consists of the various forms of bigotry mentioned: racism, sexism, and homophobia. A person can have deplorable aspects and not be deplorable as an overall human being, though many are.

Why do you do this?

Because I’m correct, and I don’t expect there will be much controversy around this post, since the truth of what I’ve written is plainly evident.

You are

not

correct:

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

[daemon]

Yes, they fit into the basket of having deplorable qualities. They are sexist, racist, homophobic.

Your ability to parse the plain meaning of English sentences is deplorable, but you yourself are not a deplorable person, so far as I know. This isn't complicated.

she called [62,979,636 / 2] people being in that basket, going by actual results. Not that I care tho. I just thought it was funny, she tried playing the shit-talk game and it didn't work because puritans.

[Nola]

I've never seen evidence that that's really true. The republicans who I see defend that are middle class whose jobs depend on a robust economy, and the poor republicans are mostly in it for the culture war.

What is it you think you see exactly that so starkly deviates from that? 

Because the narrative of the deserving/undeserving poor(which I would include many culture war items) is a very pronounced theme in Republican economic rhetoric, as is the narrative that what is good for CEO's/corporations is good for you and the economy. Which are amongst the cornerstone rationales from which trickle down, yellow socialism/hollow state, and blindly cutting regulation is built upon.

[thisismyusername]

Yes, they fit into the basket of having deplorable qualities. They are sexist, racist, homophobic.

Your ability to parse the plain meaning of English sentences is deplorable, but you yourself are not a deplorable person, so far as I know. This isn't complicated.

Way to pull a Himu, Jack.

So, who had one week in the "when will Jack come back" pool?

Not a week, but he came back faster than the month I called.

Back-to-Back winners.

[Chim Richalds]

I wonder what would happen if RE discovers All in the Family.

There was actually a thread about it.  They couldn't fathom that Archie was a deeper character than a stupid bigot.  Someone even claimed he hated Archie because he felt he didn't react correctly to Edith's almost being raped, when Archie's reaction was extremely realistic.

[Momo]

[HaughtyFrank]

Bullyhunters was a false flag attack by Gamergate

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6810953/

 

[Kurt Russell]

Is "deplorable" the left's version of "snowflake" now?

[Momo]

[Kurt Russell]

Wut Woh....

Our Statement on BullyHunters

BullyHunters pitched us with a simple idea - let’s work together to fight online harassment. And because we believe that’s a noble cause, we supported it.
It’s now clear that we didn’t do a good job in understanding exactly what we were supporting. And we’re sorry for that.

The way BullyHunters represented the gaming community was wrong and disingenuous. Most gamers don’t experience harassment, and more importantly, 99%+ of gamers don’t do the harassing. We’re well aware of the many faults with BullyHunters. We hear you guys, and we agree.

To clear a few things up: BullyHunters was not a viral campaign stage-managed by us. We did not hire a marketing agency to create it. We didn’t have anything to do with its execution, content or messaging. And more importantly, we would never take advantage of an issue like bullying to sell hardware. They asked us to supply some headsets, support the call for positive change, and we did.

Although we still believe in a world where harassment isn’t tolerated, it’s clear to us that BullyHunters is hurting, not helping, that cause. On Friday, we ended our support and partnership with the organization.

We apologize to those who support our brand and expect more due diligence in vetting out campaigns and partnerships we associate ourselves with.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/steelseries/our-statement-on-bullyhunters/10156227670083808/

[D3RANG3D]

 

[Momo]

terrorists win

[Mr Gilhaney]

that false flag bully hunters post 

[Kurt Russell]

You too can be a Bully Hunter.

Just read the field guide:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4n3oy1oma5hyr6/BullyHuntersFieldGuide.pdf?dl=0

DID YOU KNOW THAT WOMEN ARE MORE THAN THREE TIMES AS LIKELY TO BESEXUALLY HARASSED ONLINE? NOT TEASED, NOT TRASH-TALKED INTO SUBMISSION.HARASSED. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT RAPE THREATS. DEATH THREATS. THE LIST GOES ON 

For many, trash2talk (“smack talk”) is a part of a healthy, balanced competition. Boasting about your skill set and even playfully taunting opponents can be a fun way to boost confidence and intimidate adversaries. As long as everyone is having fun (see also LOL, ROFL, LMAO), it is acceptable in a competitive setting.

[Kurt Russell]

BULLY TYPE 1:

BULLY TYPE 2:

BULLY TYPE 3:

[HardcoreRetro]

"What are you doing here?" is the worst one. Why would anyone say that?

[Kurt Russell]

You can't see around your tits well enough to post anything good on The Bore.

[Mr Gilhaney]

silver and going 1 for 15. imo she deserved bullying.

[HardcoreRetro]

You can't see around your tits well enough to post anything good on The Bore.

Nice fat-shaming.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6808960/

CENTRISM 

[HaughtyFrank]

"Triggers: Other people"

That sounds about right.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6808960/

CENTRISM 

I thinkMatt Binder summed up Centrists pretty perfectly.

"The Right: Our plan will kill 1,000 people.
The Left: Our plan kills no people.
Centrists: Clearly the only obvious correct solution here is to kill 500 people."

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6806310/

Those damn centrists, always killing people!

[agrajag]

[VomKriege]

Somehow.... I just know that this whole situation is going to get worse. I just know it.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6766969/

 

[kingv]

"Triggers: Other people"

That sounds about right.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6808960/

CENTRISM 

I thinkMatt Binder summed up Centrists pretty perfectly.

"The Right: Our plan will kill 1,000 people.
The Left: Our plan kills no people.
Centrists: Clearly the only obvious correct solution here is to kill 500 people."

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6806310/

Those damn centrists, always killing people!

More correct is “all roads lead to Bernie Sanders being racist”

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

The moderators fucked up the title of the Bullyhunters thread, it's now "Bullyhunters is the misleading viral marketing campaign in 2018".

Also, More_Badass hottakes for a game that he has yet to play.

In the recent discussions regarding Kratos in God of War, as well as the shift of the series' narrative focus and the aspect of continuing Kratos' story instead of making a clean break with a new character, the other games that came to mind were the new Doom and the new Wolfensteins.

Doom takes the relentless unstoppable action of the past games and makes those skillful actions of the player a story element, by presenting your Marine as a force so powerful and ruthless and unstoppable that even demons fear and worship you. There's some narrative stuff for why, but really for the player, it comes across as this meta acknowledgement that feels very satisfying with the context of the new Doom

The new Wolfenstein games look at the action of the previous games and ask “You know that over-the-top musclebound killing machine of an old-school FPS protagonist? What if he was like an actual character, how would that role and leadership position and that experience affect him”. And this reflection on the nature of that kind of protagonist, along with the writing and Brian Bloom's acting, helped make Blazkowicz a compelling and memorable character

With new God of War, the consensus from reviews seems to be that not only did the devs evolve Kratos as a character without betraying what he was in those games, the narrative tackles his past sins and monstrous actions and gory slaughtering, action we're so familiar with because we witnessed and performed those acts, as a central thematic foundation of the story and his relationship with Atreus and reflects upon them. The baggage of those past games, of Kratos' characterization from past games, is what makes this promise of new game so interesting.

Like that juxtaposition alone, that former and latter is the same person, offers so much story potential

https://www.resetera.com/threads/doomguy-blazkowicz-kratos-or-recontextualizing-past-game-design-through-narrative.36380/

[EightBitNate]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6808960/

CENTRISM 

Everyone knows you can’t be friends with people who have different opinions than you

[Transhuman]

I thinkMatt Binder summed up Centrists pretty perfectly.

"The Right: Our plan will kill 1,000 people.
The Left: Our plan kills no people.
Centrists: Clearly the only obvious correct solution here is to kill 500 people."

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6806310/

I'm going to assume Matt Binder is that poster's highschool classmate because no way the person who wrote that is an adult.

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6808960/

CENTRISM 

Everyone knows you can’t be friends with people who have different opinions than you

Ah man. I made it three or four posts and started getting wound up by their obsession with the politics of internet nobodies. That caused a wave of self-awareness meaning that’ll be the last of my handful of visits to that place. I had a reason to gawk at the GAF car crash, but reading reset is like fucking a miserable corpse. I used to mock those cats for being totally up-to-date on the opinions and politics of sites that they thought were shit, and now here I am doing a similar thing. Messy.

[thisismyusername]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8cmhcb/rcoontown_is_back/

Under a different subreddit name. Meanwhile, reddit users (Drama users?) is posting interracial porn to it.

[Optimus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8cmhcb/rcoontown_is_back/

Under a different subreddit name. Meanwhile, reddit users (Drama users?) is posting interracial porn to it.

From the rules:

No whining about this subreddit, spez approves of it

Too obvious. Not taking the bait.

[thisismyusername]

I mean, obviously. But the brigading is hilarious.

[Mr Gilhaney]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bullyhunters-is-the-misleading-viral-marketing-campaign-in-2018.36049/page-2#post-6770982