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[tummyfat]

TIMU and Jack are two different people?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-state-of-the-democrats.52705/

It really is like watching children discuss politics.

The path to winning is to call Trump racist - and copy that chick who just won a primary in New York's platform (but we hated it when it was Bernies platform) and also Trump has no chance in 2020 even though we can't name a good candidate because whoever gets the nomination will be alright because they have the backing of the party like Clinton did. And burn centrists and moderates at the stake.

[Assimilate]

lol @ assy locking his own thread after getting teabagged for four days straight

what? the dogmod probably locked it. wtf you talking about.

Edit: heh, sensitive macbook trackpad. 

[railGUN]

Leftist this, leftist that.

I normally don't address posts that use "leftist" as a pejorative as it's own argument, because being "left" is neither an argument or a negative, but is just a dog-whistle for other conservatives to just nod in agreement regardless of any lack of substance in your post.

For example, permanent bans are not instant on Era, even for junior accounts. That's a major change from GAF, where if a junior gets banned for any reason, it's a perm. Also borrowed from Era is that GAF didn't even issue warnings before, but instant bans. Also borrowed, is that people who are banned, you usually get a message on their account explaining why.

As these systems were copied (Evilore would probably argue that an upgrade was always already planned, but the first to market gets the credit, and all others after are facsimiles), GAF isn't even consistent with the latter--some folks have been banned here with no explanation given to the community as to why they were banned.

(One of my favorite things to do is to backtrack in the post history of someone banned until I can find the offending post; that's not always possible here).

Neo-NeoGAF moderation policy now emulates Era's, so while you're throwing them under the bus, you should be thanking them, because now, the only way you get banned around here is by telling a moderator to **** off (Sambien, Naudi) or say you'll shoot your own people at the border (AranS).

(I don't even know what AngularSaxaphone did because they deleted his last three posts).

The fastest way to get banned on ERA is to be critical of sexual orientation. Even then, you'll get three tries:

1. warn
2. week ban
3. extended ban (multiple weeks to a month)
4. perm

Here, as a regular on old-GAF, if you even said "distinguished transitional person," as I see folks doing casually in OT Community even though Evilore said this place is LGBT+ friendly, and that's a slur like the f-word, you would get basically two chances before a perm, and the first ban would be extended.


This post is a reason why I just ignore people who throw around "leftist" as an argument. This is a classic conservative tactic: say something full of shit, and then it's up to you to take 10+++ minutes out of your day explaining all the reasons why it's full of shit. The payoff isn't worth it in the long run, but I decided to make an exception here to make it known why I might not be replying to shitposts, and when I do, curtly.

Little to nothing in this post wrt NeoGAF is accurate. Not NeoGAF's ban policies formerly or presently, not NeoGAF's rules in general, not NeoGAF's influences. You're making a bunch of authoritative statements about NeoGAF's history and site policies based on single anecdotes as an uninvolved third party observer? Your assertions about what's being "emulated" from Resetera are fantasy. Nothing about the moderation policies here are emulated from their strategies, and nothing they did prompted anything on our part on a technical level, a rules level, or a moderation level.

NeoGAF is NeoGAF. Post here as a NeoGAF member or we're going to part ways here. That'd be a shame. Seriously. Anyone who digs The Wire is cool in my book. But it's getting to be too much and you're interfering in day to day discussions with frequent derails with metacommentary salt posts and the poorly constructed misinformation above now. Your call. Let Reset go when you're on NeoGAF. What you do elsewhere is your business of course.

Non-negotiable ultimatum.

  It just gets funnier and funnier.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

  Evilore hasn't learned a single thing.  Not that that is surprising of course.

[Transhuman]

I dunno about "old" but I didn't get banned. Though I did get perm-warning'd before the end. I'm thinking Beefsoda didn't like me.

You’re a racist piece of shit. You should be banned from here as well.

Which races?

[nudemacusers]

Posted on gaf

Hoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heaven

Where is the bore vs neogaf on the hate site ranking scale? I just want to be sure I’m not making a lateral move when I return to open welcoming arms.

[seagrams hotsauce]

lol @ assy locking his own thread after getting teabagged for four days straight

what? the dogmod probably locked it. wtf you talking about.

Edit: heh, sensitive macbook trackpad. 

yeah blame the macbook trackpad grandma lmao

pussy

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Posted on gaf

Hoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heaven

Where is the bore vs neogaf on the hate site ranking scale? I just want to be sure I’m not making a lateral move when I return to open welcoming arms.

You can always lateral this way.

[REDPILLALPH ABIGCOCK]

I thought "sensitive macbook trackpad" was an insult

[agrajag]

It should be

[Shaka Khan]

Posted on gaf

Hoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heaven

Where is the bore vs neogaf on the hate site ranking scale? I just want to be sure I’m not making a lateral move when I return to open welcoming arms.

It's really difficult to tell when, aside from NuLore (color swapped Evilore), all the mob, mid bosses and final bosses have been defeated. I don't recognize anyone and it's no longer fun to play. New game+ sucks, the DLCs are awful, and the Alt Right expansion pack isn't challenging at all. I wish I didn't use the infinite XP hack. I feel empty now.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nier-automata-has-fake-hdr-on-xbox-please-devs-dont-make-this-a-thing.52740/

I hope they got payed

[Averon]

Evilore was just fine with how GAF was being run by his mod team as long as the ad revenue was continuing to come in. He only interacted with the forum for three reasons: to stroke his ego, ban someone for daring to mention him in a negative light or joke about him, address anything that could impact the site's ability to make ad revenue. The problem with GAF's heavy handed, agenda driven moderation was known for years. But all complaints were dismissed as being from salty racists, homophobes, alt-righters, etc...For him to now come out now--after GAF is a smoldering wreck--to claim ignorance and put on this "Golly geez! I was just so over my head, guys!" persona in a vain attempt the save his reputation and what little ad revenue remains is so blatant and pathetic.

[tummyfat]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/

Good bait thread. No one will suspect a black dude named Timmy

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Evilore was just fine with how GAF was being run by his mod team as long as the ad revenue was continuing to come in. He only interacted with the forum for three reasons: to stroke his ego, ban someone for daring to mention him in a negative light or joke about him, address anything that could impact the site's ability to make ad revenue. The problem with GAF's heavy handed, agenda driven moderation was known for years. But all complaints were dismissed as being from salty racists, homophobes, alt-righters, etc...For him to now come out now--after GAF is a smoldering wreck--to claim ignorance and put on this "Golly geez! I was just so over my head, guys!" persona in a vain attempt the save his reputation and what little ad revenue remains is so blatant and pathetic.

Yup, it's bullshit.

[HardcoreRetro]

Enjoying the God of War thread on Reseter.

"I did not enjoy this game much and here's why."

Followed by 8 pages of people dogpiling the guy/gal.

Edit: Hahahaha, it even has a hill to die on post.

[Dennis]

But God Of War did indeed fucking suck and you shouldn't have to defend yourself against such a dull, boring, tired and cliche game

It has a 94% Metacritic and 9.2 Userscore.

Sony!

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/

Good bait thread. No one will suspect a black dude named Timmy

Weirdly enough it hasn't picked up any traction. Only from people who didn't bother to click the link...

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ghosting-on-dating-apps.52746/

[BisMarckie]

I literally just want some dick and I can't even have that lmao.

NEWSFEED

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Fuckin LMAO at not being able to get laid off of Grindr

[thisismyusername]

I dunno about "old" but I didn't get banned. Though I did get perm-warning'd before the end. I'm thinking Beefsoda didn't like me.

You’re a racist piece of shit. You should be banned from here as well.

Stay losing, loser. I'll be laughing if the Democrats do not get their shit together and spike Trump into the ground.

TIMU and Jack are two different people?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-state-of-the-democrats.52705/

It really is like watching children discuss politics.

The path to winning is to call Trump racist - and copy that chick who just won a primary in New York's platform (but we hated it when it was Bernies platform) and also Trump has no chance in 2020 even though we can't name a good candidate because whoever gets the nomination will be alright because they have the backing of the party like Clinton did. And burn centrists and moderates at the stake.

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1012816020476743680



"But she had it in the bag!"
"She didn't need to go to those states, they were traditionally blue!"

kek.

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/

Good bait thread. No one will suspect a black dude named Timmy

 

Thread is dead after a handful of posts. 

[tummyfat]

I have 1,250 NEOGAF Achievement Points.

Who is jealous?

[Leadbelly]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/

Good bait thread. No one will suspect a black dude named Timmy

 

Thread is dead after a handful of posts.

Yeah. I do like this post though:

This is the world that Republicans desire.
Doesn't matter what this man's motive is.

They've dehumanised refugee children, and do not give a shit about them.

Though to be fair to Republicans when Americans are shot in school shootings they also don't care .

You can kind of tell he doesn't know how to respond to it so he just makes it about Republicans, and then says it doesn't actually matter what the man's motives were. If he was white he would be falling over himself to tell us exactly what the motives were. It wouldn't even matter what the facts were. lol
 

Weirdly enough it hasn't picked up any traction. Only from people who didn't bother to click the link...

Actually I think most of them did click the link. Do you really think their only comments would be shit like, "fuck this guy" if he were white?

[EightBitNate]

Why are you guys even reading GAF? I thought it was 99% Evilore and his alts at this point.

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/

Good bait thread. No one will suspect a black dude named Timmy

 

Thread is dead after a handful of posts.

Yeah. I do like this post though:

This is the world that Republicans desire.
Doesn't matter what this man's motive is.

They've dehumanised refugee children, and do not give a shit about them.

Though to be fair to Republicans when Americans are shot in school shootings they also don't care .

You can kind of tell he doesn't know how to respond to it so he just makes it about Republicans, and then says it doesn't actually matter what the man's motives were. If he was white he would be falling over himself to tell us exactly what the motives were. It wouldn't even matter what the facts were. lol
 

Weirdly enough it hasn't picked up any traction. Only from people who didn't bother to click the link...

Actually I think most of them did click the link. Do you really think their only comments would be shit like, "fuck this guy" if he were white?

More hilariously, imagine this post applying to the man if he were white.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/#post-9925658 

Dude is a transient who was mad he was being kicked from the apartment complex.

Not to say xenophobia didn't play a role at all, but that appears to be the motive.

Source: I live in Boise, local news

"No, you guys don't get it:  he just stabbed migrant children because of a housing dispute.  It has nothing to do with Trump's immigration policy."  Yeah, I'm sure that would go over well.

[Propagandhim]

Why are you guys even reading GAF? I thought it was 99% Evilore and his alts at this point.

Because you can farm more likes and cheevos there than you could ever imagine over in this dump you dumb bitch

[daemon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/#post-9925893

I am laughing my ass off at this guy because his avatar reminds me of this scene.

[Leadbelly]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/

Good bait thread. No one will suspect a black dude named Timmy

 

Thread is dead after a handful of posts.

Yeah. I do like this post though:

This is the world that Republicans desire.
Doesn't matter what this man's motive is.

They've dehumanised refugee children, and do not give a shit about them.

Though to be fair to Republicans when Americans are shot in school shootings they also don't care .

You can kind of tell he doesn't know how to respond to it so he just makes it about Republicans, and then says it doesn't actually matter what the man's motives were. If he was white he would be falling over himself to tell us exactly what the motives were. It wouldn't even matter what the facts were. lol
 

Weirdly enough it hasn't picked up any traction. Only from people who didn't bother to click the link...

Actually I think most of them did click the link. Do you really think their only comments would be shit like, "fuck this guy" if he were white?

More hilariously, imagine this post applying to the man if he were white.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/#post-9925658 

Dude is a transient who was mad he was being kicked from the apartment complex.

Not to say xenophobia didn't play a role at all, but that appears to be the motive.

Source: I live in Boise, local news

"No, you guys don't get it:  he just stabbed migrant children because of a housing dispute.  It has nothing to do with Trump's immigration policy."  Yeah, I'm sure that would go over well.

Wow. I wouldn't go as far as saying he is defending his actions, but... he does come across as downplaying it to a degree, for some reason.

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/#post-9925893

I am laughing my ass off at this guy because his avatar reminds me of this scene.

I made an active point of ripping on the Simpsons writing staff for including an insensitive transphobic joke in one of their most recent episodes. If anything, I made a show of being overly reactionary but I felt it was warranted given the nature of the gag and how thoughtless and insensitive it was to include in 2018. I know they saw it but my reaction was largely isolated and most everyone else in the Simpsons fan community barely even mentioned it but I'd like to think my outrage carried some extra weight given that I've been active in the show's online fandom for a quarter of a century now and that they'll think better about milking that area for laughs in the future. Cecily Strong played a lesbian in the last episode and they played that straight and didn't milk it for comedy and THAT was considered forward progress for them. So yeah, a franchise I champion has some work to do on that front as well.

[james]

I am the axis that most NeoGAF stuff rotates around one way or anothe

[Leadbelly]

Okay, this is a really weird post:

Local news will bias stories as well.
Also, if he was really upset about getting kicked from the apartment complex, he should have sliced up his landlord. Not refugee kids.

What?

[Propagandhim]

Okay, this is a really weird post:

Local news will bias stories as well.
Also, if he was really upset about getting kicked from the apartment complex, he should have sliced up his landlord. Not refugee kids.

What?

'

I think he means "should" as in, "we should have seen him do this" instead of "he ought to do this."


I hope.

[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/#post-9925893

I am laughing my ass off at this guy because his avatar reminds me of this scene.

All of REEE reminds me of this scene.

[Leadbelly]

Okay, this is a really weird post:

Local news will bias stories as well.
Also, if he was really upset about getting kicked from the apartment complex, he should have sliced up his landlord. Not refugee kids.

What?

'

I think he means "should" as in, "we should have seen him do this" instead of "he ought to do this."


I hope.

That would make more sense. If that is the case then it is very poorly worded.

[BisMarckie]

What if it was a black Trump supporter?

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Stop trying to create shit where there ain't none.

Y'all acting like a bunch of reetards

[Leadbelly]

What if it was a black Trump supporter?

 

It would certainly be interesting to see how they would respond to that.

[team filler]

if he was stabbing white american kids, the cops would have shot him dead for sure.

[TVC15]

Why are you guys even reading GAF? I thought it was 99% Evilore and his alts at this point.

Evilore going Sunset Blvd is more interesting than anything that’s ever happened at REEE.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nier-automata-has-fake-hdr-on-xbox-please-devs-dont-make-this-a-thing.52740/

I hope they got payed

Whenever I boot up the game my LG OLED panel flashes a 'HDR' logo to show that a HDR signal is received.
So it is actually recognized as a proper HDR implementation.

With that said. Nier users some resolution reconstruction and some such so it would not be out of the question that they somehow gimped the HDR too.
Not that it really matters.

[nudemacusers]

Stop trying to create shit where there ain't none.

Y'all acting like a bunch of reetards

mods he’s trying to bypass the word filter

[tummyfat]

If a crazy white transient stabbed a bunch of refugees the thread would be 20 pages by now

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-straight-men-supposed-to-call-their-partners-mommy.52772/


I get the feeling this guy was posting "Why doesn't Obama stop Trump," on NeoGaf.  Or discovering that Supreme Court can't send Trump to jail.

Lot's of passion, very little thinking.

[railGUN]

Bloody fucking hell! 

We talked about it. He was quite protective of the BCT thread and the people there, and asked that he be able to handle things personally in there to smooth things over rather than the route I took. Since he felt so strongly about it I left it in his hands and that was that. In retrospect I don't know if it was really the right call. A lot of the BCT guys acted like they were deputized by Bish personally, and got real negative after Bish got booted. They'd coordinate in there or their discord and would all hit an off-topic thread at the same time to control the narrative and dogpile people. I didn't want to axe the entire subcommunity, but they were seriously harming discourse here on a daily basis and were not responsive to requests to ease off on the coordinated bombing. MHWilliams urged me to stick with softball on it because of the Importance of having an intact Black Culture group in the vein of BLM on the site.

Several of the BCT guys treated me like their enemy for being a moderate voice who was trying to calm down the boards after Bish's stealth ban nuked off-topic. I didn't say anything out of line whatsoever that I recall; very carefully worded posts that were trying to mend the anger and hostility that started to permeate everything. But especially with BCT guys, there were lots of thinly veiled comments about me being disingenuous and being their Enemy and empowering racists by encouraging civil discourse and moderation when I would post to try to course correct, and lots of cries about the forum being doomed without Bish around to righteously banhammer everything into its proper place, according to them. Was frustrating considering what went down with Bish -- sabotaging the forum, single-handedly keeping it afloat, same diff? -- and also I didn't appreciate being treated like some White Male Oppressor all of a sudden out of nowhere, but that was the identity politics horseshit in full swing post-election.

All the Hillary kids embraced identity politics hardcore, "moderate" became a dirty word to them, and I was subject to a lot of bigotry for uhhh having a white guy avatar, mostly. In full Ziggy Stardust getup, mind you, hah. They'd simultaneously make thinly veiled comments about how I was the Enemy for being a white dude, but then I'd see them go straight into some thread about Steve Bannon or whatever and talk about how they were natural allies with Jewish people and on similar tiers in the Oppression Olympics. Meanwhile I'm uhhh Jewish but I refused to take part in the Identity Politics garbage and didn't mention it. That's not how things are supposed to work here and I'm not going to play Oppression Olympics or Virtue Signalling games. You're supposed to be judged on the substance of your words and ability to support your statements with sources and evidence as necessary here. No one's supposed to be scoring points based on their genitals, their melanin, or whatever else. I contested all this where I could to get things back to sanity and the intended framework of discussion on NeoGAF, but, yeah, mass account suicides any time I posted anything to that effect by the time 2017 rolled around.

There was a Tupac thread around spring/summer last year I recall, and I went in there and entered the discussion casually. The people in the thread all turned on me instantly, told me I Just Couldn't Understand anything about Tupac or hip-hop culture, and would never be able to. I supported my statements with credible sources and got confrontational with some of them since uhhh it sure seemed like they were suggesting that I couldn't participate in a general discussion thread on my own forum because of my skin color, and yes, that was exactly what they were getting at. Not enough melanin for EviLore to have a conversation about Tupac or hip-hop on NeoGAF. Meanwhile they were not even trying to support their own statements with any sources or evidence; they refused to source or elaborate on anything they were claiming had invalidated my posts, dismissed my hard sources, and mostly just tried to get me to leave. I blew most of them up. All seemed to be recent additions to the forum, I guess, and at least one or two of them didn't know who I was or what my role here even was. That was seriously one of the most bizarre experiences I've had in 19 years on the boards here.

2017 was the absolute worst. I tried to mend the damage and get people talking again, but no matter how thoughtful and sincere I expressed it in a post people just told me I was a disingenuous racism apologist for advocating humanist principles and calm, civil discussion and uhh moderating. "Moderate" was code language for "disingenuous racist apologist enemy" though all of a sudden. Yeah, forum moderation is disingenuous, makes sense. Screaming and forming angry mobs to drive people out for not being as angry as Required or stating the Correct opinion--that's the path of virtue and enlightenment and the way discussion forums should operate, clearly.

That's just how things work though when you're emotionally compromised to the degree these iGen kids or some of the other bubble people who've been constantly melted by the authoritarian misery over time. You become that blinded by anger, resentment, fear and demand everyone else in the social bubble stays angry 24/7 too or they're the Enemy. Staying in a constant state of distress and anxiety intentionally is IRRATIONAL and UNHEALTHY, and demanding it of others is abhorrent, produces unnecessary suffering, and is flat-out fucking insane. We had a lot of depressed people on the boards here and I've had to intervene to save a bunch of gaffers from suicide attempts over the years, so this sort of stuff is serious business to me. I had never seen such a hostile, terrified, miserable atmosphere on my forum as I did on off-topic post-election. I was concerned about how many people might be driven toward self-harm by this crazy freak-out anger bubble that would not let up. In that kind of state you become unable to see your own hypocrisy, victimize yourself absolving personal accountability and never look inward critically since you're in dysfunction and in pain and frightened, and you dehumanize everyone else and project villainous attributes onto them to an unlimited degree, especially over the internet. There's no way to have a reasonable discussion with someone in that state.

Try to calm people down? "STOP NORMALIZING!!!" "THEY WIN IF WE STOP BEING ANGRY AND UPSET!!! DON'T NORMALIZE!!!" TBH, Jon Oliver's partly responsible for pushing that "don't let them normalize it!!" narrative, since his word was gospel on here around that time, but lots of other progressive voices in media share the blame for reinforcing that notion too of course. Ended up being a really harmful talking point.

Anyhow, you're all individual sentient amorphous blobs to me. Tons of people misrepresent themselves on the internet, and it's ridiculous to give people bonus points based on what they claim about their own identity and attributes on an anonymous message board. Everyone's always welcome to disclose what they wish to disclose about their ethnicity, sex, heritage, religion, orientation, whatever, and we all have our own insights based that stuff, but the only thing that matters to me here is the substance of your posts, your disposition in accordance with the rules, and your sources and citations as appropriate. I'm glad we have a lot of gender ambiguity in avatars right now to the point where people don't seem to care one way or another about whether the user they're talking to might be male or female, cis or trans, etc. No one needs to hide anything and it's up to your discretion, but it's way better if you just ignore that stuff and focus on what people have to say, not the sex/race/orientation/etc. you believe to be associated with the person saying it.

We're all one big group, as far as I'm concerned. The subcommunities built a lot of friendships and so forth over the years, but they also formed their own insular bubbles and that bred tribalism and disconnected those groups from the community as a whole over time. I sometimes made hard calls about closing down certain subcommunities when they were no longer willing to abide by the rules here and identified more as their own group than as a part of NeoGAF. I know that has caused some of its own drama over the years, but over time we tried to be less confrontational and aggro about those situations and more just encouraged folks to link up on discord or w/e and do their own thing, or create their own forum in some cases. Sometimes that's for the best, and it's not proposed in a spiteful way.

[BisMarckie]

 
Pray for Evilore

[Shaka Khan]

I'll read that for 1000 achievement points.

[TVC15]

He mentioned the Tupac episode!

[team filler]

 

[seagrams hotsauce]

Bloody fucking hell! 

We talked about it. He was quite protective of the BCT thread and the people there, and asked that he be able to handle things personally in there to smooth things over rather than the route I took. Since he felt so strongly about it I left it in his hands and that was that. In retrospect I don't know if it was really the right call. A lot of the BCT guys acted like they were deputized by Bish personally, and got real negative after Bish got booted. They'd coordinate in there or their discord and would all hit an off-topic thread at the same time to control the narrative and dogpile people. I didn't want to axe the entire subcommunity, but they were seriously harming discourse here on a daily basis and were not responsive to requests to ease off on the coordinated bombing. MHWilliams urged me to stick with softball on it because of the Importance of having an intact Black Culture group in the vein of BLM on the site.

Several of the BCT guys treated me like their enemy for being a moderate voice who was trying to calm down the boards after Bish's stealth ban nuked off-topic. I didn't say anything out of line whatsoever that I recall; very carefully worded posts that were trying to mend the anger and hostility that started to permeate everything. But especially with BCT guys, there were lots of thinly veiled comments about me being disingenuous and being their Enemy and empowering racists by encouraging civil discourse and moderation when I would post to try to course correct, and lots of cries about the forum being doomed without Bish around to righteously banhammer everything into its proper place, according to them. Was frustrating considering what went down with Bish -- sabotaging the forum, single-handedly keeping it afloat, same diff? -- and also I didn't appreciate being treated like some White Male Oppressor all of a sudden out of nowhere, but that was the identity politics horseshit in full swing post-election.

All the Hillary kids embraced identity politics hardcore, "moderate" became a dirty word to them, and I was subject to a lot of bigotry for uhhh having a white guy avatar, mostly. In full Ziggy Stardust getup, mind you, hah. They'd simultaneously make thinly veiled comments about how I was the Enemy for being a white dude, but then I'd see them go straight into some thread about Steve Bannon or whatever and talk about how they were natural allies with Jewish people and on similar tiers in the Oppression Olympics. Meanwhile I'm uhhh Jewish but I refused to take part in the Identity Politics garbage and didn't mention it. That's not how things are supposed to work here and I'm not going to play Oppression Olympics or Virtue Signalling games. You're supposed to be judged on the substance of your words and ability to support your statements with sources and evidence as necessary here. No one's supposed to be scoring points based on their genitals, their melanin, or whatever else. I contested all this where I could to get things back to sanity and the intended framework of discussion on NeoGAF, but, yeah, mass account suicides any time I posted anything to that effect by the time 2017 rolled around.

There was a Tupac thread around spring/summer last year I recall, and I went in there and entered the discussion casually. The people in the thread all turned on me instantly, told me I Just Couldn't Understand anything about Tupac or hip-hop culture, and would never be able to. I supported my statements with credible sources and got confrontational with some of them since uhhh it sure seemed like they were suggesting that I couldn't participate in a general discussion thread on my own forum because of my skin color, and yes, that was exactly what they were getting at. Not enough melanin for EviLore to have a conversation about Tupac or hip-hop on NeoGAF. Meanwhile they were not even trying to support their own statements with any sources or evidence; they refused to source or elaborate on anything they were claiming had invalidated my posts, dismissed my hard sources, and mostly just tried to get me to leave. I blew most of them up. All seemed to be recent additions to the forum, I guess, and at least one or two of them didn't know who I was or what my role here even was. That was seriously one of the most bizarre experiences I've had in 19 years on the boards here.

2017 was the absolute worst. I tried to mend the damage and get people talking again, but no matter how thoughtful and sincere I expressed it in a post people just told me I was a disingenuous racism apologist for advocating humanist principles and calm, civil discussion and uhh moderating. "Moderate" was code language for "disingenuous racist apologist enemy" though all of a sudden. Yeah, forum moderation is disingenuous, makes sense. Screaming and forming angry mobs to drive people out for not being as angry as Required or stating the Correct opinion--that's the path of virtue and enlightenment and the way discussion forums should operate, clearly.

That's just how things work though when you're emotionally compromised to the degree these iGen kids or some of the other bubble people who've been constantly melted by the authoritarian misery over time. You become that blinded by anger, resentment, fear and demand everyone else in the social bubble stays angry 24/7 too or they're the Enemy. Staying in a constant state of distress and anxiety intentionally is IRRATIONAL and UNHEALTHY, and demanding it of others is abhorrent, produces unnecessary suffering, and is flat-out fucking insane. We had a lot of depressed people on the boards here and I've had to intervene to save a bunch of gaffers from suicide attempts over the years, so this sort of stuff is serious business to me. I had never seen such a hostile, terrified, miserable atmosphere on my forum as I did on off-topic post-election. I was concerned about how many people might be driven toward self-harm by this crazy freak-out anger bubble that would not let up. In that kind of state you become unable to see your own hypocrisy, victimize yourself absolving personal accountability and never look inward critically since you're in dysfunction and in pain and frightened, and you dehumanize everyone else and project villainous attributes onto them to an unlimited degree, especially over the internet. There's no way to have a reasonable discussion with someone in that state.

Try to calm people down? "STOP NORMALIZING!!!" "THEY WIN IF WE STOP BEING ANGRY AND UPSET!!! DON'T NORMALIZE!!!" TBH, Jon Oliver's partly responsible for pushing that "don't let them normalize it!!" narrative, since his word was gospel on here around that time, but lots of other progressive voices in media share the blame for reinforcing that notion too of course. Ended up being a really harmful talking point.

Anyhow, you're all individual sentient amorphous blobs to me. Tons of people misrepresent themselves on the internet, and it's ridiculous to give people bonus points based on what they claim about their own identity and attributes on an anonymous message board. Everyone's always welcome to disclose what they wish to disclose about their ethnicity, sex, heritage, religion, orientation, whatever, and we all have our own insights based that stuff, but the only thing that matters to me here is the substance of your posts, your disposition in accordance with the rules, and your sources and citations as appropriate. I'm glad we have a lot of gender ambiguity in avatars right now to the point where people don't seem to care one way or another about whether the user they're talking to might be male or female, cis or trans, etc. No one needs to hide anything and it's up to your discretion, but it's way better if you just ignore that stuff and focus on what people have to say, not the sex/race/orientation/etc. you believe to be associated with the person saying it.

We're all one big group, as far as I'm concerned. The subcommunities built a lot of friendships and so forth over the years, but they also formed their own insular bubbles and that bred tribalism and disconnected those groups from the community as a whole over time. I sometimes made hard calls about closing down certain subcommunities when they were no longer willing to abide by the rules here and identified more as their own group than as a part of NeoGAF. I know that has caused some of its own drama over the years, but over time we tried to be less confrontational and aggro about those situations and more just encouraged folks to link up on discord or w/e and do their own thing, or create their own forum in some cases. Sometimes that's for the best, and it's not proposed in a spiteful way.

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[Uncle]

No one's supposed to be scoring points based on their genitals, their melanin, or whatever else.

Tons of people misrepresent themselves on the internet, and it's ridiculous to give people bonus points based on what they claim about their own identity and attributes on an anonymous message board.

yeah, everyone knows how you're supposed to score points at gaf:

[Uncle]

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ok you're kidding but

it's actually fucking close

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however it's even higher

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[team filler]

Yeah, writes tens of thousands of word when he could just say "Yeah, I was kind of piece of shit and didn't really care about how the site was run as long as I was making dough." and nobody would really fault him for it. His biggest mistake was not selling the dumpster fire and investing in something.

But nah, dude was a colossally unlikeable prick who really wanted people to love, respect and fear him. That's the real reason nobody likes him and he just doesn't seem to understand that.

That being said... unban us, lore! You won't regret it!

[TVC15]

Don’t unban filler, Lore. He’s like Amir0x but with a tiger’s lust!

[daemon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-children-and-3-others-were-stabbed-at-an-idaho-complex-where-refugees-live.52744/#post-9925893

I am laughing my ass off at this guy because his avatar reminds me of this scene.

I made an active point of ripping on the Simpsons writing staff for including an insensitive transphobic joke in one of their most recent episodes. If anything, I made a show of being overly reactionary but I felt it was warranted given the nature of the gag and how thoughtless and insensitive it was to include in 2018. I know they saw it but my reaction was largely isolated and most everyone else in the Simpsons fan community barely even mentioned it but I'd like to think my outrage carried some extra weight given that I've been active in the show's online fandom for a quarter of a century now and that they'll think better about milking that area for laughs in the future. Cecily Strong played a lesbian in the last episode and they played that straight and didn't milk it for comedy and THAT was considered forward progress for them. So yeah, a franchise I champion has some work to do on that front as well.

please tell me this is copypasta

[agrajag]

Yeah, writes tens of thousands of word when he could just say "Yeah, I was kind of piece of shit and didn't really care about how the site was run as long as I was making dough." and nobody would really fault him for it. His biggest mistake was not selling the dumpster fire and investing in something.

But nah, dude was a colossally unlikeable prick who really wanted people to love, respect and fear him. That's the real reason nobody likes him and he just doesn't seem to understand that.

That being said... unban us, lore! You won't regret it!

you can't give likes on neogaf

[BisMarckie]

please tell me this is copypasta

https://www.resetera.com/posts/5971164/

[team filler]

don't listen to tvc, lore! he secretly encouraged the use of adblock and was instrumental in the downfall of your site! traitor!

[TVC15]

don't listen to tvc, lore! he secretly encouraged the use of adblock and was instrumental in the downfall of your site! traitor!

Filler killed Tupac. It was all over a dispute about a stolen Death Row golden buttplug.