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nudemacusers

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« Reply #18600 on: July 10, 2018, 09:11:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-cocaine-is-really-popular-with-the-kids-now-do-you-think-action-films-will-get-good-again.54592/

They close this sweet thread yet the getting naked in front of your pets thread stayed open for an uncomfortable amount of time
oh yeah that reminds me of this article i found last year and was going to post on gaf before... the event.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1991/07/14/rated-r-for-rad/ad177c41-044c-4d01-bceb-94964dc348ae/

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"Yeah! I say -- can I cuss? -- screw the critics," says Sam Poulin, 14, of Arlington after a matinee of "Robin Hood." "Don't listen to some stuffy old critic who gets paid for watching movies. Listen to what your friends like."


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"It was bumpin'. Just awesome. The violent parts especially," says Chris Bell, 14, of Arlington. "I saw my man Arnold in 'Terminator 2' 15 times," claims Jaime Ledesma, 16, of Arlington. "He's the best actor. The first time when I saw him in the movie, I clapped and yelled out in Spanish, 'Arnold, my man!'

all these people are now alt-right btw
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« Reply #18601 on: July 10, 2018, 09:13:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10225790/

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Hate speech is very easy to define. When a subreddit like The Donald is promoting the hanging of certain politicians or cheering a mass shooting that is the definition of hate.

So exactly what Reee has been doing when it comes to Republicans and Trump supporters?

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« Reply #18602 on: July 10, 2018, 09:21:29 PM »
Bobby wasn’t even warned for that attack post. He appears to be going down the same path as Anakin.

agrajag

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« Reply #18603 on: July 10, 2018, 09:21:33 PM »
It's amazing how much shit some people talked about GAF/Evilore and how happy they are to be unbanned

 :neogaf

nachobro

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« Reply #18604 on: July 10, 2018, 09:23:24 PM »
well where else am i gonna go to talk shit about you people?

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« Reply #18605 on: July 10, 2018, 09:27:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-ceo-tells-user-banning-hate-speech-is-too-hard-reddit-bans-user-for-posting-conversation.54413/#post-10222664

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Yep. Same thing when some make claims about wanting to be more transparent in their conduct: it sounds good to say, but that shit just is not true and we all know it.
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Many of the people we spoke to described ResetEra as an opportunity to redefine what moderation culture looks like from the ground up. Without worrying about Malka’s presence and reputation, they would be able to set their own rules and guidelines, operating under the internal rules they agreed upon in the earliest of planning stages. Big industry names and notorious ex-NeoGAF moderators, including Erren Van Duine, Emily Rogers, Nibellion and Shinobi602 all joined ResetEra with hopes of building a bigger and better forum for the community to thrive in — one that wouldn’t be associated with NeoGAF.

Shinobi602, a known member who stepped back from NeoGAF in March, told Polygon that, for the most part, ResetEra’s moderation and administrative sides will be full of new faces, alongside those notable to longtime followers.

“We see this as a fresh start and an opportunity to build our own moderation culture and aren't really looking for comparisons,” Shinobi602 said. “We hope to be genuinely fair minded, reasonable and transparent. We really want to shape a positive community for everyone. A few moderators may be familiar but for the most part the staff has no connection with other forum staff.”

...

"We'll definitely push for more warnings and leniency first and foremost. People need to have a chance to understand mistakes before slamming down an auto-banhammer. Common sense should really prevail first and foremost. If someone doesn't get the message once or twice well.."

Here I am thinking that I was being subtle there, but it seems like nothing escapes Benji; he sees my lack of slickness.

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« Reply #18606 on: July 10, 2018, 09:28:56 PM »
It's amazing how much shit some people talked about GAF/Evilore and how happy they are to be unbanned

 :neogaf

They want those sweet achievements and free games. Plus evilore is desperate so those dreams of being a mod and working for him for free are that much closer to being a reality.

nudemacusers

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« Reply #18607 on: July 10, 2018, 09:32:24 PM »
well where else am i gonna go to talk shit about you people?
slaent
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corn ages
neofeg
kiwifarms
probably a subreddit or two (?)
neogaf
and on reset discords while you pretend to not acknowledge the genesis of the forum is entirely derived from another (unlike here ofc)
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Uncle

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« Reply #18608 on: July 10, 2018, 09:38:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10225790/

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Hate speech is very easy to define. When a subreddit like The Donald is promoting the hanging of certain politicians or cheering a mass shooting that is the definition of hate.

So exactly what Reee has been doing when it comes to Republicans and Trump supporters?

It's weird how often they mock freeze peach but there's not a lot about hates peach  :thinking
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nachobro

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« Reply #18609 on: July 10, 2018, 09:48:49 PM »
slaent
opa ages
corn ages
neofeg
kiwifarms
probably a subreddit or two (?)
neogaf
and on reset discords while you pretend to not acknowledge the genesis of the forum is entirely derived from another (unlike here ofc)
:goty

nachobro

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« Reply #18610 on: July 10, 2018, 09:51:47 PM »
mac, we back :playa
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Illegitimate ban by an ex-mod on my shit list. Overturned and contacted @notworksafe about it.


@freenudemacusers dude I'm reverting to unfashionable by the hour here, save us pls. Welcome back, too.

Uncle

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« Reply #18611 on: July 10, 2018, 09:53:54 PM »
It's amazing how much shit some people talked about GAF/Evilore and how happy they are to be unbanned

 :neogaf

If one single resettler hate-browses gaf and notices a bunch of great people posting they always used to love back in the day, and feels pangs of longing for what they have lost

it will have all been worth it
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agrajag

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« Reply #18612 on: July 10, 2018, 09:56:43 PM »
I was moreso throwing shade at people like nudemac and cindi

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18613 on: July 10, 2018, 10:27:30 PM »
leave mac alone

 :stop

ToxicAdam

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« Reply #18614 on: July 10, 2018, 10:34:58 PM »
Gross. EL pretends like neogafs bullshit bans were a recent phenomena, but they stretch far back to when Demi was permabanned and just kept getting worse as the years rolled on. Typical narcissist who never wants to own the blame for something that he's responsible for.

nudemacusers

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« Reply #18615 on: July 10, 2018, 10:43:08 PM »
I was moreso throwing shade at people like nudemac and cindi
wait what did i do. i stood by my word in the most technical of sense*, since kris van assche has already released some images of his vision for the berluti house in advance of this winter's presentation:




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Also not going to post until Kris van assche’s first collection for berluti is presented in January.
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Boredfrom

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« Reply #18616 on: July 10, 2018, 10:48:26 PM »
The ArenaNet-like shitstorms is why I not enjoy GB podcasts that much anymore. It is more annoying that when they had hyper corporative at moments pre this generation.

agrajag

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« Reply #18617 on: July 10, 2018, 10:49:36 PM »
 :whatisthis

Joe Molotov

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« Reply #18618 on: July 10, 2018, 10:54:42 PM »
The ArenaNet-like shitstorms is why I not enjoy GB podcasts that much anymore. It is more annoying that when they had hyper corporative at moments pre this generation.

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Boredfrom

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« Reply #18619 on: July 10, 2018, 10:57:21 PM »
The ArenaNet-like shitstorms is why I not enjoy GB podcasts that much anymore. It is more annoying that when they had hyper corporative at moments pre this generation.

(Image removed from quote.)

I could go to the Giantbombcast thread on this forum, but I would probably had more reactions here than there.

nudemacusers

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« Reply #18620 on: July 10, 2018, 11:02:15 PM »
:whatisthis
yes i too have some concerns as to whether kris van assche can appropriately follow haider ackermann's luxe-vampire aesthetic successfully but i feel that since van assche has left dior homme and his own namesake label is closed his attention will be 100% focused on providing excessively priced leather shoes, accessories and ready to wear goods.
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agrajag

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« Reply #18621 on: July 10, 2018, 11:04:38 PM »
:whatisthis
yes i too have some concerns as to whether kris van assche can appropriately follow haider ackermann's luxe-vampire aesthetic successfully but i feel that since van assche has left dior homme and his own namesake label is closed his attention will be 100% focused on providing excessively priced leather shoes, accessories and ready to wear goods.

 :idont

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« Reply #18622 on: July 10, 2018, 11:07:13 PM »
:whatisthis
yes i too have some concerns as to whether kris van assche can appropriately follow haider ackermann's luxe-vampire aesthetic successfully but i feel that since van assche has left dior homme and his own namesake label is closed his attention will be 100% focused on providing excessively priced leather shoes, accessories and ready to wear goods.

 :idont

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« Reply #18623 on: July 10, 2018, 11:08:30 PM »
:whatisthis
yes i too have some concerns as to whether kris van assche can appropriately follow haider ackermann's luxe-vampire aesthetic successfully but i feel that since van assche has left dior homme and his own namesake label is closed his attention will be 100% focused on providing excessively priced leather shoes, accessories and ready to wear goods.

I'm having you banned asap.

Switters

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« Reply #18624 on: July 10, 2018, 11:12:02 PM »
Does anyone remember my password for neogaf.com? I have a pm from eggman I want to delete.
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Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18625 on: July 10, 2018, 11:15:55 PM »
omg eggman

lol


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« Reply #18627 on: July 11, 2018, 12:08:33 AM »
The ArenaNet-like shitstorms is why I not enjoy GB podcasts that much anymore. It is more annoying that when they had hyper corporative at moments pre this generation.
Giantbomb has a history of letting social studies cast members leave the site so I’m really hoping you’re talking about Ben.

nudemacusers

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« Reply #18628 on: July 11, 2018, 12:22:55 AM »
:whatisthis
yes i too have some concerns as to whether kris van assche can appropriately follow haider ackermann's luxe-vampire aesthetic successfully but i feel that since van assche has left dior homme and his own namesake label is closed his attention will be 100% focused on providing excessively priced leather shoes, accessories and ready to wear goods.

 :idont



let's build a fart fetish ziggurat
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thetylerrob

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« Reply #18629 on: July 11, 2018, 12:44:04 AM »
Y’all ever watch Brazilian fart porn?

Jansen

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« Reply #18630 on: July 11, 2018, 12:57:38 AM »
himuro crawling back to gaf like a lil bitch :lol

Tasty

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« Reply #18631 on: July 11, 2018, 12:57:59 AM »
Pay me not to touch you in the shower

Pay me to touch you in the butt in the shower. :phil Consentually. :phil

why would I pay you? You should be paying me to touch my supple butt  :snob

Bitch yours ain't even 60% as good as mine.

Tasty

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« Reply #18632 on: July 11, 2018, 12:58:47 AM »
himuro crawling back to gaf like a lil bitch :lol

It makes sense that of all the different versions of GAF and RE, it's newly-alt-right-GAF that does it. :(

PS- Himu don't Twitter-DM me about this post.

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« Reply #18633 on: July 11, 2018, 01:05:24 AM »
 :beavis

counterhit

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« Reply #18634 on: July 11, 2018, 02:58:50 AM »
what the fuck is happening in here
 :crazy

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« Reply #18635 on: July 11, 2018, 03:03:52 AM »


 :mindblown
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« Reply #18636 on: July 11, 2018, 03:04:10 AM »
I need to stop clicking on this thread.

SmokyDave

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« Reply #18637 on: July 11, 2018, 03:58:03 AM »
Watching the ArenaNet stuff morph from ‘person goes off on a customer over social media’ into ‘Gamergate harass a poor woman out of the industry’ has been interesting. The truth is like a skin to be peeled off and thrown away.

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« Reply #18638 on: July 11, 2018, 04:11:41 AM »
Makes perfect sense that Anita would worm herself into the conversation once the reees and their ilk on twitter were screeching that there was gamergate involvement, after all she's the yin to the gamergate yang of attempting to steal an unrelated spotlight with little-to-no connection and make it all about themselves.

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« Reply #18639 on: July 11, 2018, 04:15:38 AM »
Watching the ArenaNet stuff morph from ‘person goes off on a customer over social media’ into ‘Gamergate harass a poor woman out of the industry’ has been interesting. The truth is like a skin to be peeled off and thrown away.

Not to give credence to the latter but it's not mutually exclusive. Mobs by definition are hard to define, and there's certainly a tendency for fandoms to form those online and for many fanboys to exhibit reactionary and nostalgic kneejerks including against any form of artistic and thus casting diversity.

But yeah nuance is often the first victim of those debates.
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« Reply #18640 on: July 11, 2018, 04:37:03 AM »
Watching the ArenaNet stuff morph from ‘person goes off on a customer over social media’ into ‘Gamergate harass a poor woman out of the industry’ has been interesting. The truth is like a skin to be peeled off and thrown away.

Imagine how badly she would come across in a discussion with Deroir.

VomKriege

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« Reply #18641 on: July 11, 2018, 04:54:12 AM »
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If the Republicans have switched pay-masters to the Russians, then the US companies no longer have any influence. It seems like they've already bought out the NRA.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-administration-announces-list-of-tariffs-on-200-billion-in-chinese-goods.54591/page-4#post-10259306

Yes, a country with a GDP lower than most of individual major EU states is totally able to wrestle total financial control of the whole political class from some of the wealthiest capitalists in the world, who have never been shy with their contributions, in a system very lenient on private financing for parties and candidates.

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Fuck our shit up, China. Make us bleed. I mean it. Make our economy crash.

Yes, spank me 傍大款 !
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« Reply #18642 on: July 11, 2018, 05:03:08 AM »
(Image removed from quote.)

 :mindblown

is there some abusive shit that the dude posted? or is this headcannon stuff?

VomKriege

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« Reply #18643 on: July 11, 2018, 05:11:49 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wapo-deep-state-is-conspiring-against-us-russia-friendship-putin-told-trump.53787/#post-10114014

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For any Trump supporters reading this: FYI the US and Russia have never been particularly good friends, other than a short stint in WW2.

Of course Trump is too dumb to know this.

"International politics is not a high school slumber party"
Lord Palmerston
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« Reply #18644 on: July 11, 2018, 05:19:53 AM »
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Remind me again why hes allowed to meet with this asshole alone again?

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Can we just lock them up already? Screw impeachment, screw procedure, and screw the court that was formed in Trump's favor.

I just want the FBI to cut to the chase and get these GOPigs out of power now.

The only way to prevent the Coup is to execute our Coup earlier.
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PogiJones

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« Reply #18645 on: July 11, 2018, 05:22:34 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.

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« Reply #18646 on: July 11, 2018, 05:36:25 AM »
(Image removed from quote.)

 :mindblown

is there some abusive shit that the dude posted? or is this headcannon stuff?

The dude praised that particular writer as a "god" on a stream only a few days earlier and just seems like a super friendly guy. That he's now labeled a "toxic fan" is pretty amazing

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« Reply #18647 on: July 11, 2018, 05:43:42 AM »
Watching the ArenaNet stuff morph from ‘person goes off on a customer over social media’ into ‘Gamergate harass a poor woman out of the industry’ has been interesting. The truth is like a skin to be peeled off and thrown away.

Not to give credence to the latter but it's not mutually exclusive. Mobs by definition are hard to define, and there's certainly a tendency for fandoms to form those online and for many fanboys to exhibit reactionary and nostalgic kneejerks including against any form of artistic and thus casting diversity.

But yeah nuance is often the first victim of those debates.


Why are you even mentioning all this crap regarding this particular incident? Obnoxious bitch that has been fired before for being an obnoxious bitch acted like an obnoxious bitch against a customer that was extremely polite to her and got fired, that is the real story here. Why the fuck you people decided to give even an inch to these SJW distinguished mentally-challenged fellows regarding this subject I have no fucking idea. I mean I suspect why but still.

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« Reply #18648 on: July 11, 2018, 05:47:12 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.

I feel that if she had agreed to publicly apologize she should have been able to keep her job. I doubt she would have been willing though, because her victim complex seems too strong and she doesn't strike me as capable of seeing that she was in the wrong.

Optimus

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« Reply #18649 on: July 11, 2018, 05:55:52 AM »
For the record that piece of shit was celebrating TB's death along with the rest of the SJW scum.





Funny how the same hypocrites that talk about against "freedom from consequences" defend scum like her that celebrate and brag about a young man dying from cancer and all this because he disagreed with them.

Want proof that gamergate is vastly morally superior compared to these subhumans? Just look at their reaction at TB's death despite the fact that a few months ago TB was shitting on them publicly. The thread about TB on KiA was full of people offering condelences, I don't think even one comment was negative and the ones that talked about TB's disagreement with GG were all pointing out that it doesn't matter and that he was still a great person.

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« Reply #18650 on: July 11, 2018, 06:01:39 AM »

Not to give credence to the latter but it's not mutually exclusive.

In this case it is. The artist formerly known as Gamergate had nothing to do with this shitshow.
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PogiJones

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« Reply #18651 on: July 11, 2018, 06:33:30 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.
I feel that if she had agreed to publicly apologize she should have been able to keep her job. I doubt she would have been willing though, because her victim complex seems too strong and she doesn't strike me as capable of seeing that she was in the wrong.
Maybe. Her account suggests she was just fired, though, and not offered any form of apology ultimatum. That also seems like the most prudent move for the company once the mob has formed. It would have been too costly to keep her on at that point.

Either way, my point is that she screwed up, and the attacked party should have filed an individual complaint and allowed the company to handle the behavior without the pressure of a mob breathing down their necks. She was a jerk, and may have ended up getting fired even without the mob, but I'm almost always going to oppose a mob calling for someone to get fired for a screw-up. The only exception would be something like a Harvey Weinstein situation, and even then, I think a whole lot of evidence needs to come to light before public backlash costs someone their job.

Tuckers Law

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« Reply #18652 on: July 11, 2018, 06:34:15 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.

Ultimately the problem was that many of the usual suspects began propping up the erroneous argument that she was the one who was first attacked and wronged.  Factual reality has no place for these kinds of people, and it does a disservice to the causes they always claim to champion.

PogiJones

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« Reply #18653 on: July 11, 2018, 06:41:11 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.
Ultimately the problem was that many of the usual suspects began propping up the erroneous argument that she was the one who was first attacked and wronged.  Factual reality has no place for these kinds of people, and it does a disservice to the causes they always claim to champion.
Yeah, and her retweeting his message to broadcast to her numerous followers how sexist he was probably didn't help keep a mob from forming. I mean, no doubt that nearly the entire situation was her own orchestration. Even still, I will almost always discourage mobs from forming and calling for someone's job, even when I agree with the mob. It's like vigilante justice: even if it would occasionally be helpful, it's so prone to abuse and misuse that it's a concept that needs to be rejected outright. Same thing with mobs: while they occasionally will reach a "correct" outcome, when they miss, they miss hard, and people get hurt. So mob justice should almost always be rejected.

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #18654 on: July 11, 2018, 06:59:36 AM »
The problem with anonymous mobs/internet groups like GG is that at a certain point any group activity that looks like something that group would do is going to be attributed to that group

"Gamergate did this," because Gamergate did superficially similar things in the past, and if you were to examine everyone who took part and discovered that few if any had a history or harbored misogynistic thoughts and tweets, then you'd hear how they were sleeper agents or created that account just to take part in this attack or other nonsense

Even if no one was Gamergate, the fact that some of the rhetoric might seem similar and that the outcome was the same means that no actually everything was Gamergate
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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #18655 on: July 11, 2018, 07:03:03 AM »
For the record that piece of shit was celebrating TB's death

this was my favourite:

https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1000019145314979840

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #18656 on: July 11, 2018, 07:07:20 AM »
Jesus Christ, Leigh Alexander is a despicable cunt.

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #18657 on: July 11, 2018, 07:10:58 AM »
People just need to put pitchforks away, all around. The ArenaNet woman screwed up in a way that could be fireable offense at a lot of companies, but she also didn't necessarily need to be fired. A reprimand would probably have been fine. But because there was a mob (not Gamergate before the firing, mind you, but a mob nonetheless), the company couldn't really afford to not fire her. But that mob didn't need to form. The attacked dude could have reported it to the company as an individual complaint, and the company could have handled it in a proportional way. But because thousands of people got offended on his behalf, firing her was the only reasonable solution.

Stop forming mobs, people. If someone wrongs someone else, let the wronged handle it. You don't need to rally behind that person like you were all attacked. Only that guy was.
I feel that if she had agreed to publicly apologize she should have been able to keep her job. I doubt she would have been willing though, because her victim complex seems too strong and she doesn't strike me as capable of seeing that she was in the wrong.
Maybe. Her account suggests she was just fired, though, and not offered any form of apology ultimatum. That also seems like the most prudent move for the company once the mob has formed. It would have been too costly to keep her on at that point.

Either way, my point is that she screwed up, and the attacked party should have filed an individual complaint and allowed the company to handle the behavior without the pressure of a mob breathing down their necks. She was a jerk, and may have ended up getting fired even without the mob, but I'm almost always going to oppose a mob calling for someone to get fired for a screw-up. The only exception would be something like a Harvey Weinstein situation, and even then, I think a whole lot of evidence needs to come to light before public backlash costs someone their job.

If there was neither party would gain anything from making it public.

But yeah, mobs are dumb. I can't recall any specific time i've called for someone to get fired over some dumb shit they said. In fact, my second or third post on NeoGaf was defending Phil Fish after he said that Japanese games are starting to get sucky, and everyone was calling him a racist.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/jeremy-parish-where-do-gamers-draw-the-line-between-creators-and-creations.470087/page-2#post-36928896

..to which bish instantly jumped down my throat and implied that Fish wasn't "renown" enough to have an opinion.

That was my first experience on the forum. I didn't post much on gaming side after that.

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #18658 on: July 11, 2018, 07:14:39 AM »
Phil Fish's face always looks so punchable to me, I can't help but hate the guy regardless of whatever it is he says.

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #18659 on: July 11, 2018, 07:18:43 AM »
Unlike Bobby, who has a face that makes you want to listen to what he has to say.

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