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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47640 on: December 19, 2018, 12:30:18 PM »
Aw man another person who can't criticize anyone else because they've done things... vague things... things that make their repudiation of someone else invalid I guess?

I'd love to be in the room with the PDP fuckboi who found those two tweets I bet he experienced orgasm for the first time in years

I mean, I don't care about those tweets, but I also don't like hypocrites who claim that context doesn't matter. One of those tweets is a reference to the Producers, a classic. But if he/she's not going to give pewds the benefit of context, then they don't deserve it either.

What's the context for suggesting his subscribers check out a white supremacist channel?

The Nazi jokes he loved doing so... so fucking much in the past could be explained away by "context" (not so much his n-word "moment of anger") but dude was just like "Y'all should check out this channel that's clearly run by a neo-nazi and especially this specific video that has highly problematic things in it"

This tit for tat is infuriating because it becomes about the back and forth of outrage instead of anything else

Oh lord. You're ascribing malice to his intentions, instead of it being a mistake (which he copped to and removed the links). That's the part that makes it hypocritical. You can ascribe malice to anything if you assume bad intentions. I don't think he's a smart man, honestly. But I also don't think he's some sort of insidious nazi out to indoctrinate the youth of youtube.
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« Reply #47641 on: December 19, 2018, 12:30:34 PM »
I was there, too. I was screaming "Tell us who Q Anon is!" over and over again.
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« Reply #47642 on: December 19, 2018, 12:36:27 PM »
Aw man another person who can't criticize anyone else because they've done things... vague things... things that make their repudiation of someone else invalid I guess?

I'd love to be in the room with the PDP fuckboi who found those two tweets I bet he experienced orgasm for the first time in years

I mean, I don't care about those tweets, but I also don't like hypocrites who claim that context doesn't matter. One of those tweets is a reference to the Producers, a classic. But if he/she's not going to give pewds the benefit of context, then they don't deserve it either.

What's the context for suggesting his subscribers check out a white supremacist channel?

The Nazi jokes he loved doing so... so fucking much in the past could be explained away by "context" (not so much his n-word "moment of anger") but dude was just like "Y'all should check out this channel that's clearly run by a neo-nazi and especially this specific video that has highly problematic things in it"

This tit for tat is infuriating because it becomes about the back and forth of outrage instead of anything else

Oh lord. You're ascribing malice to his intentions, instead of it being a mistake (which he copped to and removed the links). That's the part that makes it hypocritical. You can ascribe malice to anything if you assume bad intentions.

That's why I like to talk about PDPs history of continued mistakes. You'd think someone who triggered the adpocalypse by doing stupid nazi shit would stop for a minute and think about suggesting a channel like that, and a video that shows the death of Heather Heyer.

I LOVE to give people the benefit on the doubt, but PDPs like 6 or 7 mistakes removed from any kind of benefit. Either way, we could simply take the time to look at each infraction and weigh each one within the context of the others and this Vox writer having two tweets (one a joke at the expense of Twitter's lax moderation) that you could take out of context does not exactly make him a hypocrite.

AND THEN even if it does make him a hypocrite, that doesn't change the fact that PDP is probably a racist.

I dunno, I guess when you're putting out multiple hours of content a day for neigh on a decade it can be hard to not make these kinds of mistakes?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47643 on: December 19, 2018, 12:46:09 PM »
I try to give benefit of the doubt and just assume they're young
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This poll was a big shock to me, I originally thought that the bulk of Era were college students or fresh-outta-college young 20's... I'd have expected that those in their 30's would have a slightly more nuanced view of the world, and have aged against their edgy hot takes, but nope, guess not.
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« Reply #47644 on: December 19, 2018, 12:47:41 PM »
Aw man another person who can't criticize anyone else because they've done things... vague things... things that make their repudiation of someone else invalid I guess?

I'd love to be in the room with the PDP fuckboi who found those two tweets I bet he experienced orgasm for the first time in years

I mean, I don't care about those tweets, but I also don't like hypocrites who claim that context doesn't matter. One of those tweets is a reference to the Producers, a classic. But if he/she's not going to give pewds the benefit of context, then they don't deserve it either.

What's the context for suggesting his subscribers check out a white supremacist channel?

The Nazi jokes he loved doing so... so fucking much in the past could be explained away by "context" (not so much his n-word "moment of anger") but dude was just like "Y'all should check out this channel that's clearly run by a neo-nazi and especially this specific video that has highly problematic things in it"

This tit for tat is infuriating because it becomes about the back and forth of outrage instead of anything else

Oh lord. You're ascribing malice to his intentions, instead of it being a mistake (which he copped to and removed the links). That's the part that makes it hypocritical. You can ascribe malice to anything if you assume bad intentions.

That's why I like to talk about PDPs history of continued mistakes. You'd think someone who triggered the adpocalypse by doing stupid nazi shit would stop for a minute and think about suggesting a channel like that, and a video that shows the death of Heather Heyer.

I LOVE to give people the benefit on the doubt, but PDPs like 6 or 7 mistakes removed from any kind of benefit. Either way, we could simply take the time to look at each infraction and weigh each one within the context of the others and this Vox writer having two tweets (one a joke at the expense of Twitter's lax moderation) that you could take out of context does not exactly make him a hypocrite.

AND THEN even if it does make him a hypocrite, that doesn't change the fact that PDP is probably a racist.

I dunno, I guess when you're putting out multiple hours of content a day for neigh on a decade it can be hard to not make these kinds of mistakes?

Any of the dumb edgy jokes would be forgiven if he was a progressive darling. It's the same stupid edgy shit that Count Dankula got got for. Let people make dumb jokes. Stop going full outrage on shit that in context is meant to be a joke. It's all fucking stupid and entirely the fault of regressives like this vox journo.



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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47645 on: December 19, 2018, 12:59:56 PM »
Wait, I thought you loved the Bore because we crowdfund your nazi adult coloring books?

That spoiler wasn't meant for your eyes.  :maf

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« Reply #47646 on: December 19, 2018, 01:02:03 PM »
MODS HALP!

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« Reply #47647 on: December 19, 2018, 01:12:23 PM »
marrec is ok


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47648 on: December 19, 2018, 01:19:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pamela-anderson-sets-up-new-foundation-to-help-people-to-become-revolutionaries-in-training.88068/

Pam Anderson shows a much deeper understanding of world events than anyone on RE, encourages people to do what RE talks a big game about, the thread is 90% brushing her off because she's a dumb broad.

KGB front ?
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47649 on: December 19, 2018, 01:19:35 PM »
Regressives are pretty much this guy, sans religion.


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« Reply #47650 on: December 19, 2018, 01:21:22 PM »
So stufte doesn't know the difference between satire and racism?


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47651 on: December 19, 2018, 01:26:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pamela-anderson-sets-up-new-foundation-to-help-people-to-become-revolutionaries-in-training.88068/

Pam Anderson shows a much deeper understanding of world events than anyone on RE, encourages people to do what RE talks a big game about, the thread is 90% brushing her off because she's a dumb broad.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47652 on: December 19, 2018, 01:31:36 PM »
Aw man another person who can't criticize anyone else because they've done things... vague things... things that make their repudiation of someone else invalid I guess?

I'd love to be in the room with the PDP fuckboi who found those two tweets I bet he experienced orgasm for the first time in years

He's allowed to criticize all right. But others are likewise allowed to point out the hyprocrisy, and it also loses a lot of punch when people throw out "he's a naaaaziiii" accusations when they should instead watch out for the skeletons in their own closets.

These folks often talk a lot of the talk, but they sure as fuck rarely walk the walk.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47653 on: December 19, 2018, 01:37:52 PM »

That's why I like to talk about PDPs history of continued mistakes. You'd think someone who triggered the adpocalypse by doing stupid nazi shit would stop for a minute and think about suggesting a channel like that, and a video that shows the death of Heather Heyer.

So assuming it was a mistake, what should he have done to make amends for that mistake?
Put out an apology video, explain how and why he made that mistake, and edit the original video containing the mistake to remove any implied endorsement of someone elses channel?

Because thats literally what he did.

I mean, you might not know that, because the mods were quick to edit that topics title into what it is now, but not so quick to update with a follow up.

But you and I both know that doing that is not enough for era consensus, that this will be brought up in every future topic about him ad infinitum, and realistically, there is nothing he can ever do that will ever not have him denounced on general principle immediately.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47654 on: December 19, 2018, 01:40:58 PM »
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It continued uninterrupted as the FSB and other agencies. It simply enshrined oligarchy as the open form of dynastic aristocracy instead of hiding it in bureaucracy.

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« Reply #47655 on: December 19, 2018, 01:43:46 PM »
That Pamela Anderson thread is sexist as fuck.

Guess ERA doesn't care about women unless they are drawn or made out of polygons. :expert

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« Reply #47656 on: December 19, 2018, 01:47:08 PM »
They don't care about anyone who's not on the right side of history™

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« Reply #47657 on: December 19, 2018, 01:47:27 PM »
If Pamela Anderson really wanted to make a difference in the world, she'd have written an article on Medium about how terrible Donald Trump is.

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« Reply #47658 on: December 19, 2018, 01:49:34 PM »
If Pamela Anderson really wanted to make a difference in the world, she'd have written an article on Medium about how terrible gamers are.

FTFY

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« Reply #47659 on: December 19, 2018, 01:51:07 PM »
If Pamela Anderson really wanted to make a difference in the world, she'd have written an article on Medium about how terrible gamers are.

FTFY

Or started a fight with someone on twitter, thats the real measure of someones commitment to change

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« Reply #47660 on: December 19, 2018, 01:52:10 PM »
If Pamela Anderson really wanted to make a difference in the world, she'd have written an article on Medium about how terrible gamers are.

FTFY

Or started a fight with someone on twitter, thats the real measure of someones commitment to change

Or refusing to watch the presidential inauguration.  :doge


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47662 on: December 19, 2018, 02:02:12 PM »
Quote from: Kirblar
Transitioning directly to (small-r) republican democracy in countries with no real history of it has seemed to be a massive mistake when it's been attempted in the past few decades.

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« Reply #47663 on: December 19, 2018, 02:07:09 PM »
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Transitioning directly to (small-r) republican democracy in countries with no real history of it has seemed to be a massive mistake when it's been attempted in the past few decades.

Should have reinstated the Kaiser.

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« Reply #47664 on: December 19, 2018, 02:08:21 PM »
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When Putin dies Russia is going to completely fall apart and likely devolve into a Civil War as he’s the only thing keeping a lid on the various oligarchic factions vying for power. They’re completely fucked and most Russians know it.
When Obama mentioned "clinging to guns or religion" he forgot the third and fourth ones: Opioids.and Racism.

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« Reply #47665 on: December 19, 2018, 02:10:31 PM »
Quote from: Kirblar
Transitioning directly to (small-r) republican democracy in countries with no real history of it has seemed to be a massive mistake when it's been attempted in the past few decades.

Should have reinstated the Kaiser.


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47666 on: December 19, 2018, 02:16:32 PM »
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It's not for me to defend Nate since his takes are bullshit and he *really* needs to stay in his lane, and I obviously agree with Black Twitter's take on his take. But. His point was not to defend Tucker, but to note that short term boycotts that lead to uncritical ad pulling could be weaponized against liberals as well. Obviously a lot of that is nonsense since only one 'side' is spouting nazi bullshit, but it is at least worth noting that a couple cases of gamergate-led railroading have *already* created those exact situations.

Again, Nate is not someone I think worth defending, but the underlying point is at least worth observing in a place with a bit more nuance than Twitter can deliver.

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We've already seen something similar with James Gunn's firing.
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That one really only took hold because Disney can't touch that material with a 10 foot pole because of their image. Almost anything else wouldn't have worked.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2018-ot13-its-the-treason-for-the-season.84893/page-154#post-16116937

- I may humbly want, if you'll pardon me, to respectfully suggest the possibility that liberals could also be targeted by boycotts and sudden social media campaigns and perhaps we shouldn't always be so quick to go for that.
- Nah don't worry. Can only happen in some freak perfect storm situations.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47667 on: December 19, 2018, 02:17:59 PM »
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when we finally have adults back in charge we can sanction the fuck out of the Russians and watch them choke from the inside
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47668 on: December 19, 2018, 02:23:23 PM »
That Pamela Anderson thread is sexist as fuck.

Guess ERA doesn't care about women unless they are drawn or made out of polygons. :expert
Pamela Anderson is the real life woman closest to that ideal.

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« Reply #47669 on: December 19, 2018, 02:47:19 PM »
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when we finally have adults back in charge we can sanction the fuck out of the Russians and watch them choke from the inside
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just like the iraq sanctions :rejoice

iraq deserved it for their WMDs like russia deserve it for hacking the election

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« Reply #47670 on: December 19, 2018, 03:12:02 PM »
I mean, would you trust someone that did those things to Tommy Lee?

Tommy Lee, Brett Michaels and Kid Rock. She's like a walking, talking petri dish of STD's.

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« Reply #47671 on: December 19, 2018, 03:17:30 PM »
edit: I can't read  :doge

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« Reply #47673 on: December 19, 2018, 03:48:21 PM »
Does reset have a thread on this yet



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« Reply #47674 on: December 19, 2018, 03:54:09 PM »
I like how the the NeoGAF community got ripped from their high horses by their REEE postings and are now basically seen as the crackpot lunatics of the gaming community.  :lol
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« Reply #47675 on: December 19, 2018, 03:59:06 PM »
I like how the the NeoGAF community got ripped from their high horses by their REEE postings and are now basically seen as the crackpot lunatics of the gaming community.  :lol

I almost wonder if it's even the same people anymore

But then I realize that yes it is exactly the same people anymore
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« Reply #47676 on: December 19, 2018, 04:21:59 PM »
Does reset have a thread on this yet

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https://twitter.com/ikemOG/status/1075230890190614529

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« Reply #47677 on: December 19, 2018, 04:38:38 PM »

That's why I like to talk about PDPs history of continued mistakes. You'd think someone who triggered the adpocalypse by doing stupid nazi shit would stop for a minute and think about suggesting a channel like that, and a video that shows the death of Heather Heyer.

So assuming it was a mistake, what should he have done to make amends for that mistake?
Put out an apology video, explain how and why he made that mistake, and edit the original video containing the mistake to remove any implied endorsement of someone elses channel?

Because thats literally what he did.

I mean, you might not know that, because the mods were quick to edit that topics title into what it is now, but not so quick to update with a follow up.

But you and I both know that doing that is not enough for era consensus, that this will be brought up in every future topic about him ad infinitum, and realistically, there is nothing he can ever do that will ever not have him denounced on general principle immediately.

If this was the first instance I think his removal and apology would be perfectly acceptable and even commendable. Clearly there are a few people who won't ever forgive anyone of anything unless they make Marvel movies, but what PDP did once he apparently realized what the channel is about is what should be done... although being a bit more apologetic wouldn't hurt.

I just don't know if I can continue to give PDP the benefit of the doubt that he's not at least politically problematic (if not just a full blown racist). Which, listen, I really don't think that YouTube should remove everyone with a bad opinion or who secretly harbors racism. Like, half the office I work at probably have some kind of racially abhorrent views even if they would privately profess to not at all be racists... I just don't know if I'm comfortable with someone who ostensibly is supposed to be running an entertainment channel for young people (not children, but you know) making misstep after misstep.

Y'all joked about "GATEWAY RACISTS" earlier, but E;R got something like 40k subscribers from PDPs shout. Ben Shapiro is no doubt basking in the glory of occasionally being mentioned by or subbing for PDP. In that vast web of the internet, if you were to draw it out, you wouldn't draw a direct connection from "silly youtube video game player" to "Ben 'Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings' Shapiro"... and yet here we are. This is probably at least in part because the "left" on the internet threw them into the same bucket... so I guess we shouldn't be surprised that they bonded over being labeled big bad wolves... regardless I do think someone with the reach that Pewds has needs to be way more responsible but instead acts like he's just this scrappy upstart channel still.
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« Reply #47678 on: December 19, 2018, 04:41:43 PM »
Does reset have a thread on this yet

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« Reply #47679 on: December 19, 2018, 04:46:46 PM »
Does reset have a thread on this yet

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« Reply #47680 on: December 19, 2018, 04:51:35 PM »
Does reset have a thread on this yet

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« Reply #47681 on: December 19, 2018, 05:00:06 PM »

That's why I like to talk about PDPs history of continued mistakes. You'd think someone who triggered the adpocalypse by doing stupid nazi shit would stop for a minute and think about suggesting a channel like that, and a video that shows the death of Heather Heyer.

So assuming it was a mistake, what should he have done to make amends for that mistake?
Put out an apology video, explain how and why he made that mistake, and edit the original video containing the mistake to remove any implied endorsement of someone elses channel?

Because thats literally what he did.

I mean, you might not know that, because the mods were quick to edit that topics title into what it is now, but not so quick to update with a follow up.

But you and I both know that doing that is not enough for era consensus, that this will be brought up in every future topic about him ad infinitum, and realistically, there is nothing he can ever do that will ever not have him denounced on general principle immediately.

If this was the first instance I think his removal and apology would be perfectly acceptable and even commendable. Clearly there are a few people who won't ever forgive anyone of anything unless they make Marvel movies, but what PDP did once he apparently realized what the channel is about is what should be done... although being a bit more apologetic wouldn't hurt.

I just don't know if I can continue to give PDP the benefit of the doubt that he's not at least politically problematic (if not just a full blown racist). Which, listen, I really don't think that YouTube should remove everyone with a bad opinion or who secretly harbors racism. Like, half the office I work at probably have some kind of racially abhorrent views even if they would privately profess to not at all be racists... I just don't know if I'm comfortable with someone who ostensibly is supposed to be running an entertainment channel for young people (not children, but you know) making misstep after misstep.

Y'all joked about "GATEWAY RACISTS" earlier, but E;R got something like 40k subscribers from PDPs shout. Ben Shapiro is no doubt basking in the glory of occasionally being mentioned by or subbing for PDP. In that vast web of the internet, if you were to draw it out, you wouldn't draw a direct connection from "silly youtube video game player" to "Ben 'Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings' Shapiro"... and yet here we are. This is probably at least in part because the "left" on the internet threw them into the same bucket... so I guess we shouldn't be surprised that they bonded over being labeled big bad wolves... regardless I do think someone with the reach that Pewds has needs to be way more responsible but instead acts like he's just this scrappy upstart channel still.

Dude got 12k daily from the shout and was trending down, but popped back up to 13k daily from the vox/twitter outrage. They feed this shit.

I do agree that he needs to be WAY more careful though.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47682 on: December 19, 2018, 05:03:06 PM »
Does reset have a thread on this yet

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https://twitter.com/ikemOG/status/1075230890190614529

 :lol :lol :lol

That ain't it, Chief. :wag

Wakanda bullshit is this?  >:(

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47683 on: December 19, 2018, 05:14:27 PM »
Uncle

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47684 on: December 19, 2018, 05:50:18 PM »
Does reset have a thread on this yet

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well i for one obviously agree with Black Twitter's take on this

Stop agreeing and start lis :clap ten :clap ing :clap. Until it’s time to actually chime in and “only 255 posts  :wag “ “haven’t seen you in many other threads” “y’all ain’t slick”

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47685 on: December 19, 2018, 05:54:15 PM »
My impression is that the Adpocalyose was already at work way before PewDiePie VS WallStreetJournal, YouTube has been consistent in not caring about how their policies affect content creators and advertisers will take priority (while YT still doing a halfassed job in using algorithms).

Even outside the debate of deplatforming or free speech, people should admit that YouTube doesn’t have the best interests in mind concerning content creators to react properly in either way.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47686 on: December 19, 2018, 06:08:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/am-i-the-only-one-who-really-hates-uncle-frank-from-home-alone.88201/

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All of them are pretty horrible people. I would break someone's fucking neck if they talked to my kid like that.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47687 on: December 19, 2018, 06:29:20 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/am-i-the-only-one-who-really-hates-uncle-frank-from-home-alone.88201/

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All of them are pretty horrible people. I would break someone's fucking neck if they talked to my kid like that.

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Buzz, Linnie and Tracy really shouldn't have been talking to Kevin like that and were asking to get their necks snapped by Kevin's father, even though he was also their father.

 :reeeee

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47688 on: December 19, 2018, 06:40:40 PM »
Am I the only one who doesn't like intentionally unlikable character
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47689 on: December 19, 2018, 06:46:04 PM »
Am I the only one who doesn't like intentionally unlikable character

Yes.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47690 on: December 19, 2018, 06:54:42 PM »
Uh oh, REE is mad at Joe Rogan again.  :lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-we-gonna-talk-about-joe-rogan-using-the-hard-r-n-word.88202/

Can't even read a quote of someone saying the Voldemort word.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47691 on: December 19, 2018, 07:12:11 PM »
Just a couple days ago these people called a black YouTuber a coon (because he sent a friendly message to PewdePie on Twitter) and then tried to justify it by saying they are "policing their own community."

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47692 on: December 19, 2018, 07:12:17 PM »
Can we talk about Patrick Fraley's use the N-Word complete with hard R in the audiobook of Tom Sawyer???

This man was a hero to kids for voice acting Krang in the original TMNT cartoon and now he's spewing this racist shit all over audible.com? FOH

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47693 on: December 19, 2018, 07:14:18 PM »
literally REEE:


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47694 on: December 19, 2018, 07:25:08 PM »
Larry David must be on their shit list.



Worse than Leo DiCaprio.




That thread is a perfect example of Era's thought process.  Joe Rogan makes a very racist defense of some guy who called people acting dumb "n-words."  That's the gross thing.  The fact that Rogan reads the quotes and says the n-word himself is within the context of quoting the OG racist.

It's like someone stabbing you with a knife and your complaint is that it was an illegal switch blade.  They are going for the cheap, "emotional," argument instead of the actual blatant wrong. 


I also love they maintain that there is no difference between hard-R and nicca but in cases where it's convenient they mention "OMG, it's a hard R."
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47695 on: December 19, 2018, 07:26:28 PM »
Uh oh, REE is mad at Joe Rogan again.  :lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-we-gonna-talk-about-joe-rogan-using-the-hard-r-n-word.88202/

Can't even read a quote of someone saying the Voldemort word.

saying the n-word out loud = using it in a derogatory way

Actors shouldn’t say it if they’re playing a racist character
Audiobook narrators shouldn’t say it if appears in a book
 
It’s that simple, guys...

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47696 on: December 19, 2018, 08:06:20 PM »
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You guys keep emphasizing "hard-r" like it matters. No version or that word is acceptable

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They aren't but it emphasizes the informality it's being used in the referencing context. Plus it's a little clickbaity to get people in and engaged.

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I don't like it because it makes the uninformed think that the other version is either less harmful or acceptable and even those that know better use the fact that they said it, "with the A" like that's OK


I wish I had a black avatar so I could have made that argument without being banned.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47697 on: December 19, 2018, 08:10:07 PM »
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You guys keep emphasizing "hard-r" like it matters. No version or that word is acceptable

Quote from: FrozenPrince
They aren't but it emphasizes the informality it's being used in the referencing context. Plus it's a little clickbaity to get people in and engaged.

Quote from: superkool
I don't like it because it makes the uninformed think that the other version is either less harmful or acceptable and even those that know better use the fact that they said it, "with the A" like that's OK


I wish I had a black avatar so I could have made that argument without being banned.

ERA is gonna need some sort of melanin verification before they let people use PoC avatars.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47698 on: December 19, 2018, 08:19:20 PM »
ERA is gonna need some sort of melanin verification before they let people use PoC avatars.

I'm pretty sure that is enzom's job title. He's slick.  He sees you.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #47699 on: December 19, 2018, 08:28:35 PM »
They can go Bobby's route and just darken their picture  :lol