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Cauliflower Of Love

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I never said I was retiring from the posting.

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agrajag

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that's too bad

Cauliflower Of Love

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Cauliflower Of Love

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you guys are assholes, a hatesite if you will
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Propagandhim

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I was just happy to have an opportunity to post Fat Man, tbh

Jansen

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-days-gone-is-the-next-big-sony-franchise.91633/#post-16593878

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HELL YEAH

ResetEra is going to learn to respect the name Days Gone

80+ Meta, top 10 on NPD for 2019, bigger than RE2, Sekiro, and DMCV

Don't @ me

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benjipwns

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Oh the Adder changed his avy  :(
after people here expressed that they hoped he would never change it :thinking

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Toxic masculinity constructs is the biggest threat to human civilization.

benjipwns

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was searching for that post and found out the mods silenced this dude for warning about PewDiePie and the rise of Nazi's, no wonder caravans of droves being:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fascism-alt-right-nazis-the-importance-of-de-platforming-ot.21852/post-4292718
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Is pew die pie alt right? I remember him making nazi "jokes" and using racial slurs but he is almost never mentioned. Is it the lack of political motivation that makes it more just racism than alt rightism?
He perpetuated the alt-right "reading books" meme (every alt-righter is obsessively reading books right now, btw, a good way to spot em) with his new video and even read typical alt-right books, including Fahrenheit 451, Aldous Huxley, Jordan Peterson.
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Fahrenheit 451 is not an alt-right book.

I guess in principle you can read anything into anything if you really want to but I can't really see any sense in calling it an alt-right book.
It's a very common alt-right book, it's basically "i'm thinking about becoming alt-right but haven't yet"
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I agree with you 100%. The people we're talking about have the IQ of about 60. It's still a common alt right book. They like 1984 too. Go check /lit/. I'm talking about pewdiepie being a transparent alt-right troll, not the substance of the book
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I'm serious. It's important to recognize the signs of someone becoming radicalized. You realize that there's literal nazis out there, right? This is long past being a joke and I'm right in the center of it all (I can drive to Charlottesville for lunch) so I hear about these things all of the time. The straight white male obsessed with bitcoin who scoffs at mass media and becomes obsessed with reading the Great White Male authors has become a major trope and it's becoming so frequent that I hear stories about them in coffee shops all over the place. This is the start of a major movement and it's important to recognize the signs so that people know when they need to help intervene on these people and spread positive messages.

They're reading:
Dystopian Novels (Huxley, Dick, Bradbury, Orwell)
Anti-Media novels (Wallace)
Pro-Capitalist (Rand)
Bible
Old Philosophers (Aristotle, Plato, etc)
Self Help novels (toxic male ones, like Jordan Peterson or Tim Ferris)
Nietzsche (especially him)

If you see anyone reading these books in a coffee shop, I dare you to ask them the questions you could use to spot a typical white supremacist. Ask them their favorite classical music artist and ask them their racial heritage. They'll have long answers prepared for both and will answer delightfully. Now imagine for a moment, that if you could just look down on this poor, obviously angry soul (probably reading Infinite Jest or Evola), and you reach out to him and you say, "Listen, I know it's hard. Life's hard. I know it's hard to lose your privilege, but it's time to finally think about PoC, LGBT+, and women and the persecution they face, too. It's not all about you." You could really reach out to these vulnerable kids with a message of love and unity and prevent them from becoming absorbed in hate. Offer to take them around an urban neighborhood and do some good, donate some time or something. Having one less nazi in the world is hardly something to take lightly.

benjipwns

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It's part of why I've had a lingering thought about why Anita Sarkeesian was such a tipping point for a lot of this shit happening online: they weren't mad about what she was making, they were mad that she found a way to make a living by having an opinion they disagreed with. Then they decided they could do the same, to the detriment of society. I can't really say for sure that's true, but it rings true in a way
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Propagandhim

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Brave New World is alt-right now?    :lol :lol :lol

Stro

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alt is synonym for new

Propagandhim

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To draw a knowing simplification, the leftist sees platforms as method of sharing ideas, and thus resists deplatforming under the assumption that it harms the idea of ideas. It is a matter of principle, if somewhat abstract. The alt-right member by comparison sees platforms as a method for attaining status. And from status, success. And from success, validation by a society viewed as a shallow and ruthless capitalist cult.

I'm fucking dying here.   :lol :lol :lol

Stro

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That reads like a True Detective season 2 meme

Propagandhim

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Deplatforming is not about killing ideas or discourse. It is about stopping an exploitative individual from using a platform to gain power at society's expense.

"Thus concludes my presentation entitled, Stopping Aldous Huxley: A Social Imperative"

benjipwns

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The alt-right and monetization provides a path for such people to become successful and experience validation of their world view. It seems pretty common in that culture for people to market and present themselves as far more successful than they really are - it's a big part of the image. Aside from basic income and survival issues, I think there could be a lot of psychological weight behind deplatforming.

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The alt-right member by comparison sees platforms as a method for attaining status. And from status, success. And from success, validation by a society viewed as a shallow and ruthless capitalist cult.

Because the status-seeker doesn't care about ideas (or the consequences of them), they will say anything so long as it gains them status and power of some kind.
:success BIG CONSERVATIVE MONEY :success

Propagandhim

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Almost as bad as Big Paleo

benjipwns

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I like how the first pages of that thread, from nearly a year ago, include a discussion of "is PewDiePie really alt-right or just stupid"? And the last page, from current times, is all "how do we deplatform the Nazi PewDiePie before he holocausts again?"

benjipwns

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I have just filed a complaint* with the alt-right university administration for having a large alt-right temple on campus full of millions of alt-right books promoting the alt-right "reading books" meme.

*Under shosta's name.

Propagandhim

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I like how the first pages of that thread, from nearly a year ago, include a discussion of "is PewDiePie really alt-right or just stupid"? And the last page, from current times, is all "how do we deplatform the Nazi PewDiePie before he holocausts again?"

They simply "deplatformed" all the people contributing to the former narrative who were obviously using ResetEra to gain power at society's expense.

benjipwns

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That was always what I feared about ResetERA.com, that it would become too successful.

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When the mask slips and you realize lolcow s a psy-op consisting of thousands of alts and markov bots which endlessly create circular arguments designed to create strife and inefficiency. lolcow doesn't just seem like parody, it actually is.

lolcow is a Russian bot.

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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/gab-banned-from-coinbase.1470643/


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There is no such thing as a system of systemic white supremacy in the US.. That is a very Ameriphobic claim as it usually entails tearing down American values such as meritocracy, freedom of speech, and equality of opportunity in favor of the communist equality of outcomes, censorship via unfairly applied ďhateĒ speech laws, and straight up justification of racism by claiming victimhood status.

Thatís the irony of it all ó Ameriphobic and racist, blinded by a false perception of victimhood to justify stripping away freedoms in the name of a twisted morality that glorifies race and gender over shared humanity and Americanism.

As for the FoRm YoUr oWn CoMpAnIeS bullshit weíve all seen the Regressive poisoness ideology thatís taken root with payment processors ... how is ones company supposed to bill customers if visa MasterCard, American Express, Discover, Coinbase, Patreon and Paypal have blacklisted American Patriots who hold Free Speech as one of the most important if not THE most important American value? Short of the government busting these companies up with antitrust lawsuits, this is tyranny by monopoly.

Itís tyranny and itís not going to stand one way or the other.

For the most part true Americans just want to be left alone ... itís Fake Americans aka the Regressive Left that is forcing the issue.
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Almost as bad as Big Paleo


I'm convinced, cause that girl is thicker than calcium deposits.



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Cauliflower Of Love

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this channel is amazing


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Tripon

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Raist

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Things that make you a nazi:

- Drinking milk
- Reading Books
- Not voting far-left
- Disapproving of Antifa or current "feminists"
- Using the near-universally understood hand gesture for "OK"

Did I forget anything?

Rahxephon91

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Yes, being white.

Or rather being white with no guilt for it.

PsychoBee

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reading novels about a dystopian future and philosophy is now alt right

can't wait for the black mirror OT to pop up so I can point out that it's actually an alt right dog whistle

I heard the alt right breathes air too, maybe ree should stop doing that lest they fall prey to nazi particles in the atmosphere
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Boredfrom

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Because the status-seeker doesn't care about ideas (or the consequences of them), they will say anything so long as it gains them status and power of some kind.

That sounds a lot like Reee.

BisMarckie

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/there-is-no-major-left-media-outlet-and-that-has-to-change.91651/

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Leftism is incompatible with the concept of mass media. There will never be a Leftist media outlet.

:neogaf

JayDubya

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There is no such thing as white privilege.

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.

These people live in a bubble of pure insanity and lash out angrily if the integrity of that bubble is ever threatened.

hhkcvaoitsso

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It's true, I read it in Pravda.
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agrajag

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It's true, I read it in Pravda.

Translator: pravda means truth

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Boredfrom

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There is no such thing as white privilege.

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.

 :snoop

hhkcvaoitsso

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This doesn't work, because progressives don't flock to talking points and authoritarian bullshit like the right wing does.
It's true, I also read this on Pravda.
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hhkcvaoitsso

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The type of people who tune into daytime news are disproportionately white and rural. Not exactly the demographics liberals should be trying to win over.
...is this true? I don't remember seeing this in Pravda.
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agrajag

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This doesn't work, because progressives don't flock to talking points and authoritarian bullshit like the right wing does.
It's true, I also read this on Pravda.

That's why the true progressives demodded you and banished you to the Shadow Realm (a.k.a. The Bire)

 :bolo

Spieler1

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Almost as bad as Big Paleo


:goldberg



This makes it look like parody. But the other videos not.  :thinking

hhkcvaoitsso

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I'm still not going to watch/read, but I'd be satisfied if CNN, NYT, etc laid off the false equivalencies
This is my favorite post

Oh that reminds me, I still have to cancel my subscription to NYT for the fifth time
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agrajag

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only pravda equivalencies pls

hhkcvaoitsso

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This post ends with a surprise
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The nature of intelligentsia leftism is at odds with the kind of lowest-common-denominator, high-engagement/low-critical-thought reporting typical of major news outlets.

In the age of social media this can be mollified somewhat because people can amplify individual voices beyond what they could've reached otherwise.

A few places I feel safe recommending:
https://jacobinmag.com/
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house
philosophy tube[:rofl]

Ocasio-Cortez is correct here in that in the 20th century, socialism/leftist thought was limited to academia, but in the information age it's possible to "radicalize" yourself. Sometimes it doesn't always work and sometimes people drop the ball or tunnel vision; this is where critical thinking on the part of the reader is absolutely crucial. The problem there is it's an intellectual pursuit for people who're already inclined to reject the status quo and this is a small amount of people overall. In my estimation it's mostly limited to urban/suburban youth and young adults with good non-STEM (STEM has its own tunnel vision problems) education.

And read the Communist Manifesto if you want to get started, it's brisk, it's easy to understand, it has a lot to say about the world we live in.
It's true! I read it in Pravda!! :rejoice
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JayDubya

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There is no such thing as white privilege.

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.


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It's true, tho. 

hhkcvaoitsso

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I thought we all got our news from this forum?
everyone annihilated
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agrajag

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the toxicity of our city, of our ciiiiiity

Boredfrom

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There is no such thing as white privilege.

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.


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It's true, tho.

Nah. Reee is insane and slacktivism obfuscated this concepts but Iím not going to pretend this stuff doesnít exist.

Don Rumata

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There is no such thing as white privilege.

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.


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 :iface

It's true, tho.

Nah. Reee is insane and slacktivism obfuscated this concepts but Iím not going to pretend this stuff doesnít exist.
Carlin had a good bit about "the male disease".


benjipwns

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Ocasio-Cortez is correct here in that in the 20th century, socialism/leftist thought was limited to academia
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The problem there is it's an intellectual pursuit for people who're already inclined to reject the status quo and this is a small amount of people overall. In my estimation it's mostly limited to urban/suburban youth and young adults with good non-STEM (STEM has its own tunnel vision problems) education.
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And read the Communist Manifesto if you want to get started, it's brisk, it's easy to understand, it has a lot to say about the world we live in.
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benjipwns

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The type of people who tune into daytime news are disproportionately white and rural. Not exactly the demographics liberals should be trying to win over.
...is this true? I don't remember seeing this in Pravda.
This seems like one of those things that's inherently true because of population demographics by themselves, but nobody would bother to check to confirm.

The easiest confirmation is probably the ads.

Which means it's disproportionately people who had bladder mesh surgery.

benjipwns

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I honestly feel uncomfortable watching Fox. The American flag fluttering behind their hosts to tie them to nationalist sentiments, their constant mockery and dismissal of any criticism or opposition to the Republican party, the intentional demonization of key targets and stereotyping of Democrats in general, the word-for-word regurgitation of arguments against Republicans and for Democrats with the groups flipped. It strains belief to think that their hosts actually buy their own rhetoric rather than using words to manipulate motions and achieve their political goals with no thought to what they actually mean.
This dude needs more Lou Dobbs.

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Normally I would say no! Terrible idea. But last year I conducted a study with a colleague on the development of the narratives around antifa and the conclusion we drew is that media sources that attempt to be objective (even if at times progressive leaning) end up inadvertently reinforcing alternative conservative narratives and thereís no major outlet to balance things out.

So the research says: yeah, actually we do - but only to help erase the impact of Infowars, Breitbart, etc. if far-right outlets didnít have so much traction and reach, we wouldnít need it.

Source: am a researcher in rhetoric, conducted study on virality and reach, pub passed review and is forthcoming
:rejoice primary sourcing :rejoice

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hhkcvaoitsso

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-mundane-enjoyment-do-you-find-more-pleasurable.91678/
This is not exactly one of Piecake's best threads

But good on him for getting a bunch of Reseterazens to talk about their bowel function
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benjipwns

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Would this not also be fixed simply by eliminating things like FOX News and Breitbart? If they are the issue, and I agree that they are, isn't the solution just to get rid of them and not emulate them? A lot of our issues are a result of Reagan deregulating things and opening the door to AM talk radio and things like FOX News, should we not just undo what he did?
you are just the worst

how did they ever make you an admin

hhkcvaoitsso

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The FCC regulation was because of the limited number of radio stations that could be broadcasting. With YouTube and cable there's really no issue in getting your PhilosophyTube content whenever you want.
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benjipwns

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No, we need Trump to personally decide what cable news and websites are allowed or not. And quickly, before the 2020 election.

benjipwns

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We just have to undo, whatever it was that Reagan must have did, then things will fall into their natural state of regulation that keeps away the Nazi's.

hhkcvaoitsso

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Fact check: Ajit Pai blocked the Sinclair/Tribune merger.

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benjipwns

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Fact check: Ajit Pai blocked the Sinclair/Tribune merger.

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Clearly they were afraid of a large combining of left-wing and minority voices.

benjipwns

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Problem is you'd just be trading one problem for another with this solution. Do this and the truth becomes irrelevant, literally no one will want to hear it. They'll just go to what they agree with. Democracy doesn't work unless the people are properly informed. It's why we're having the problems we are, this solution would just be doubling those very same problems instead of solving them.

The only solution that gets us out of the spiral is the end of FOX, adding a left-wing version of it would just speed the spiral up. This wouldn't actually fix anything.
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Part of why said reinforcing happens though is due to the right demonizing reporters and news outlets as left-wing for the last few decades, since Reagan opened pandora's box. Yes, there will always be bias, but the issue is how far that bias has been allowed to go. Creating a second extreme won't really help with that as you'd just create a place for people to go to that would feed into their biases.

I actually do agree with your best solution, but I would argue that there are already left wing sources out there to apply said pressure and that we just need to chop down the overgrowth that has been allowed to happen on the right.
This is why we need to limit the free press to protect democracy.
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