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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56520 on: February 01, 2019, 04:23:10 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ny-times-y-a-author-pulls-her-debut-after-pre-publication-accusations-of-racism.97146/


Weird how none of these posters seem to recognize this behavior in themselves

So far the responses are all reasonable in that thread. Is this the turning point? Does the derangement fever start going down from here?

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56521 on: February 01, 2019, 04:28:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ny-times-y-a-author-pulls-her-debut-after-pre-publication-accusations-of-racism.97146/


Weird how none of these posters seem to recognize this behavior in themselves

From the twitter character:

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Sensitivity Reads

In sensitivity reads, I will thoroughly read through your manuscript for any plot points, language, imagery, etc. that is likely or prone to offend marginalized people. This will include both a line by line indication of any insensitivities as well as a report detailing any major plot elements that should be reexamined and/or changed. I will only read for marginalizations that I have first-hand experience with. The responses I provide are to help you improve your manuscript and mitigate harm. My sensitivity reads are in no way an endorsement for your writing or allyship. You may choose to accept or reject any advice I provide and I do not guarantee that any sensitivity reads will protect you from critique or offense.

Note: As I’ve said many times before, marginalized people are not a monolith. I can only provide knowledge and advice per my own experience with these marginalized identities. Other members of the same marginalization may very well disagree with what I consider sensitive or insensitive.

I will read for the following marginalizations:

    Black/Black American/Black Caribbean/African Diaspora*/Afro-Latinx
    East Asian/Asian American/Chinese*/Japanese
    Latinx/Puerto Rican*
    Mental Illness/ADHD/Anxiety/Depression/Suicide/Bipolar Disorder
    Queer/Bisexual*/Pansexual/Aromantic/Asexual/Genderfluid/Genderqueer*/trans*/mlm*/wlw relationships*

*- identities that I share for whom my expertise is less refined. I’ll read for all of these identities, but I recommend secondary readers whose experiences may align more closely.

Please include which identities you’d like me to read for when submitting your manuscript. I will point out all sensitivity issues I see (even for marginalizations that I do not share if pertinent), but my focus will be on the identities requested.

I require a minimum of two (2) weeks for sensitivity reads, but completion time may vary depending on traffic. For sensitivity reads, I charge $.01/word with a $10 minimum charge. All sensitivity reads for stories under 1,000 words will cost $10. *Discounts are available for students and marginalized authors. Please email for a specialty quote.
https://ctcallahan.com/author-services/

If the good folks at resetera ever followed a link (they dont, they only read titles) theyd find out that their outrage culture could be profitable!



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A sensitivity consultation is where I will discuss with you the premise of your story, character tropes, and other potential insensitive material before you begin writing. This service is intended to help you determine if a story is too sensitive for you to write outside of your lane, to determine potential pitfalls, and examine the safest approaches to your work before dedicating your time to the writing process. Many problematic stories would benefit from this service more so than a sensitivity read because it protects stories from being written on a problematic foundation. For a sensitivity consultation, I will read over a summary of your story as well as a summary of its characters. I will then send a detailed analysis featuring any potential problems I see along with explanations and advice on how to avoid these pitfalls. Additional consultations may be requested as alterations are made to the original concept drafts.


aaaaaand this is why people use pen-names.



Bonus: This is what the same twitter character does:

https://twitter.com/MuMD0G/status/1091363266318790659
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56522 on: February 01, 2019, 04:31:12 PM »
That Danielle Riendeu girl has brought up that she's an emt at least 1000 times since starting at that site. Jesus christ get a personality or something.

I like Riendeau but I only listened to podcasts, never read her stuff. Yeah she brought the EMT bit some times here too but I thought she was fairly personable for a videogame journalist.
How many podcasts did you listen to? I only listened to a couple but she consistently brought it up at least once an episode. She struck me as just another boring white girl that does well in academia but has no authenticity whatsoever.

A bunch of "idle weekends". And yeah she brought it up several times along with her relation to her parents, the New England upbringing and a few other things. I probably wouldn't have listened if Rob Zacny didn't co host though. She's wayyyy too much into Nintendo for me.
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56523 on: February 01, 2019, 04:35:02 PM »
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56524 on: February 01, 2019, 04:38:03 PM »
Quote from: Pata Hikari, post: 17481316, member: 38421
They love it because there aren't any minorities.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-dont-understand-anyone-that-loves-rural-living.97097/page-5#post-17481316

Yes they are all racist

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56525 on: February 01, 2019, 04:41:38 PM »
Quote from: Pata Hikari, post: 17481316, member: 38421
They love it because there aren't any minorities.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-dont-understand-anyone-that-loves-rural-living.97097/page-5#post-17481316

Yes they are all racist

PATA HIKARI BITCH AN ASIAN CHICK JUST PUT A DIVERSE CAST IN HER BREAKOUT BOOK AND PEOPLE RAN HER OUT OF TOWN BECAUSE SHE PUT TOO MANY MINORITIES IN IT
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56526 on: February 01, 2019, 04:44:40 PM »
"Oh Ms. Zhao we are delighted to see you didn't let the criticisms get you down and have resubmitted your novel!  How are you tackling the subject of race this time?  Have you managed to address the issues while maintaining a diverse cast?"

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56527 on: February 01, 2019, 04:48:04 PM »
"Oh Ms. Zhao we are delighted to see you didn't let the criticisms get you down and have resubmitted your novel!  How are you tackling the subject of race this time?  Have you managed to address the issues while maintaining a diverse cast?"

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no, she should probably just change them all into werewolves  :lol :lol :lol

Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56528 on: February 01, 2019, 04:53:29 PM »
The only way to stop a bad guy with a dickwolf is a good guy with a werewolf

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56529 on: February 01, 2019, 04:55:21 PM »
"Oh Ms. Zhao we are delighted to see you didn't let the criticisms get you down and have resubmitted your novel!  How are you tackling the subject of race this time?  Have you managed to address the issues while maintaining a diverse cast?"

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no, she should probably just change them all into werewolves  :lol :lol :lol

but for the love of god, don't give your werewolf a surname derived from Scandinavian culture unless you're actually from Scandinavia. "James Wolfson" is a big no no. Stay in your lane you murican bitches.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56530 on: February 01, 2019, 05:07:21 PM »
"Oh Ms. Zhao we are delighted to see you didn't let the criticisms get you down and have resubmitted your novel!  How are you tackling the subject of race this time?  Have you managed to address the issues while maintaining a diverse cast?"

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no, she should probably just change them all into werewolves  :lol :lol :lol

Yes the solution to tackling issues of race is the Zootopia model, make everyone a furry and then everyone criticizing you is kinkshaming  :rollsafe
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56531 on: February 01, 2019, 05:13:26 PM »
"Oh Ms. Zhao we are delighted to see you didn't let the criticisms get you down and have resubmitted your novel!  How are you tackling the subject of race this time?  Have you managed to address the issues while maintaining a diverse cast?"

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no, she should probably just change them all into werewolves  :lol :lol :lol

Yes the solution to tackling issues of race is the Zootopia model, make everyone a furry and then everyone criticizing you is kinkshaming  :rollsafe

Akshually, i read her thread and surprise, surprise - it turns out that everyone who criticizes her awful take is a troll.  ::)

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56532 on: February 01, 2019, 05:36:53 PM »

Bonus: This is what the same twitter character does:


So some Twitter asshole wrecked someone's career to try and push their 'woke consultant' grift.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56533 on: February 01, 2019, 05:42:46 PM »

Bonus: This is what the same twitter character does:


So some Twitter asshole wrecked someone's career to try and push their 'woke consultant' grift.

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Note: As I’ve said many times before, marginalized people are not a monolith. I can only provide knowledge and advice per my own experience with these marginalized identities. Other members of the same marginalization may very well disagree with what I consider sensitive or insensitive.

They literally undercut the service they are offering.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56534 on: February 01, 2019, 05:56:26 PM »

Bonus: This is what the same twitter character does:


So some Twitter asshole wrecked someone's career to try and push their 'woke consultant' grift.

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Note: As I’ve said many times before, marginalized people are not a monolith. I can only provide knowledge and advice per my own experience with these marginalized identities. Other members of the same marginalization may very well disagree with what I consider sensitive or insensitive.

They literally undercut the service they are offering.

:girlaff

They also undercut it right here.

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    Mental Illness/ADHD/Anxiety/Depression/Suicide/Bipolar Disorder

"Yes, this is someone I would like to hire"
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56535 on: February 01, 2019, 05:56:26 PM »
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This account's Tweets are protected.
Only confirmed followers have access to @AuthorCCallahan's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56536 on: February 01, 2019, 06:01:48 PM »

Bonus: This is what the same twitter character does:


So some Twitter asshole wrecked someone's career to try and push their 'woke consultant' grift.

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Note: As I’ve said many times before, marginalized people are not a monolith. I can only provide knowledge and advice per my own experience with these marginalized identities. Other members of the same marginalization may very well disagree with what I consider sensitive or insensitive.

They literally undercut the service they are offering.

:girlaff

They also undercut it right here.

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    Mental Illness/ADHD/Anxiety/Depression/Suicide/Bipolar Disorder

"Yes, this is someone I would like to hire"

um no all of those things provide them with more credibility

"oh look honey he's so culturally/racially sensitive that he even acknowledges his own privileged point of view, and look he has all the disorders as well so we know his suffering provides him with maximum perspective on how to be sensitive to those issues"
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56537 on: February 01, 2019, 06:15:30 PM »
If you write characters who are DEFINED by their sexuality/skin color/etc. in a book where those traits have no bearing on the plot, then those are badly written characters.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56538 on: February 01, 2019, 06:31:02 PM »

Sadly, they're this guy.

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Talking about useless information, a reporter actually identified the man a couple of years ago. His name is Josh 'Randy' Sullivan and he is exactly as smart as you thought he was. This is his twitter account: https://mobile.twitter.com/BirdsOnBats06

Relevant part of the interview:
"Randy, thanks for talking with me. First off, let's get some background. Where are you from, and what do you do?

I'm from Decatur, Illinois, born and raised. And until a few months ago, I worked at the local corn sugar factory.


As I'm sure you know, the photograph of you at the‒

‒I can't talk about that. I'm in the process of suing that photographer and a bunch of internet people, if I can find a lawyer who'll represent me. [To tape recorder] If anyone listening to this is a lawyer or an attorney, please contact my twitter so I can sue somebody."
Source: https://www.sbnation.com/2011/7/17/2279239/get-a-brain-morans

Yep, he thought people were listening to the journalist's tape recorder.
Presumably he never found anyone to help him sue those pesky internet people, poor guy.
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56539 on: February 01, 2019, 06:35:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ny-times-y-a-author-pulls-her-debut-after-pre-publication-accusations-of-racism.97146/


Weird how none of these posters seem to recognize this behavior in themselves

That situation is pretty horrible and is pretty depressing she cave. Huge mistake for her.

Reee lack of self awareness is also pretty shitty. Bunch of scumbags.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56540 on: February 01, 2019, 06:37:04 PM »
Randy from the corn sugar factory, for fucks sake.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56541 on: February 01, 2019, 06:40:01 PM »

um no all of those things provide them with more credibility

"oh look honey he's so culturally/racially sensitive that he even acknowledges his own privileged point of view, and look he has all the disorders as well so we know his suffering provides him with maximum perspective on how to be sensitive to those issues"

It also waived indemnity for outrage insurance if you fall for their grift purchase their extremely valuable insight and they tell you your pansexual Alaskan never nude would definitely enjoy ice cream, and some twitterati ends up calling you an insensitive shitlord and starting a gofundme to have your books withdrawn and pulled because they're lactose intolerant

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56542 on: February 01, 2019, 06:41:45 PM »
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According to that article, YA publishers are now hiring sensitivity readers to read manuscripts and point out any problematic or harmful aspects promoted or present in the text.

Oh boy, that is horrible. Fuck this world.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56543 on: February 01, 2019, 06:46:41 PM »
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Did you read the entire point she was making or just the first line?

What she was talking about wasn't that books with problematic content should be shut down, but that there are numerous hands that touch a book before it comes out who have the ability to guide the author, so it's not entirely just the author who is to blame if it come out.

Frankly, I think it's entirely justifiable to question the motives of people who are focusing on that one line at the expense of the main thrust of the argument.

That is what Literature needs, books created by committees and focus testing.

Go fuck yourself L Thammy, I hope you die in a fire.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56544 on: February 01, 2019, 06:52:05 PM »
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According to that article, YA publishers are now hiring sensitivity readers to read manuscripts and point out any problematic or harmful aspects promoted or present in the text.

Oh boy, that is horrible. Fuck this world.

All I can think of is the Penn & Teller Sensitivity Training Bullshit episode
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56545 on: February 01, 2019, 06:55:21 PM »
Ree’s going to implode if the Jussie Smollett attack turns out to be fabricated.


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56546 on: February 01, 2019, 06:57:26 PM »
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If you read the entire article it seems publishing is changing and you have more editorial focus on sensitive content. It’s rather interesting.

Censorship is always interesting.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56547 on: February 01, 2019, 07:06:55 PM »
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According to that article, YA publishers are now hiring sensitivity readers to read manuscripts and point out any problematic or harmful aspects promoted or present in the text.

Oh boy, that is horrible. Fuck this world.

What a racket. Publishers going to sue their sensitivity readers if they pass a story and someone on Twitter blows up on it? It’s NEVER enough. I’m rather impressed, wonder how much they get paid. You go Little Queer Werewolf.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56548 on: February 01, 2019, 07:15:57 PM »
Ree’s going to implode if the Jussie Smollett attack turns out to be fabricated.
Celebrities and Reee posters are nuts for putting al their eggs into that basket, there’s almost no shot it happened exactly as he claimed

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56549 on: February 01, 2019, 07:26:18 PM »
Ree’s going to implode if the Jussie Smollett attack turns out to be fabricated.
Celebrities and Reee posters are nuts for putting al their eggs into that basket, there’s almost no shot it happened exactly as he claimed

nah like stories before it, once it doesn't fit their narrative they will never speak of it again and if someone brings it up then it will be labelled as a dogwhistle 

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56550 on: February 01, 2019, 07:34:52 PM »
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Okay, so look at it this way. Someone wants to publish a book in which they've accidentally included content which, if actually published, would cause controversy that might give the author blowback. What are the author's options?

They can go through publishing it themselves or go through vanity publishing, both options in which the author pays for the book to be out instead of getting paid by the publisher, in which case no one's going to care about editing their work and they'll just have to suck up the blowback. Look at the Saving the Pearls novel mentioned earlier, which involves oppressed white characters that have to use blackface to fit into society.

Or they can go through a traditional publisher, in which case the publisher can reject it to avoid the issue completely, provide guidance so that the blowback can be avoided while still getting the thing out, or can publish it anyway and let the blowback potentially hit the author.

Between these situations, the only one where someone is actually taking the interest in helping the author is the one where the author is being given guidance.

And those people are the Editors you bitch. If you care about the author you will not riot because the mean book said something that troubled you.

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« Reply #56551 on: February 01, 2019, 07:59:01 PM »
Ree’s going to implode if the Jussie Smollett attack turns out to be fabricated.
no it wont because whoever says I told you so will be banned

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56552 on: February 01, 2019, 08:37:07 PM »
It's not fabricated.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56553 on: February 01, 2019, 08:38:43 PM »
At this point whose not on their outrage shitlist?

First page and almost every reply is virtue signalling. For anything else it would count as thread derailment

https://www.resetera.com/threads/idris-elba-in-talks-to-star-in-max-landis-supernatural-thriller-deeper.97113/

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56554 on: February 01, 2019, 08:47:31 PM »
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Ew. Max Landis.

I tweeted at Elba, could be entirely possible he didn't know it was a Max Landis project, or about his history of being an awful human being. Elba seems like the kinda guy who wouldn't want to be associated with Landis, but might be lack of knowledge rather than poor judgement.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56555 on: February 01, 2019, 08:48:03 PM »
Ew. Max Landis.

I tweeted at Elba, could be entirely possible he didn't know it was a Max Landis project, or about his history of being an awful human being. Elba seems like the kinda guy who wouldn't want to be associated with Landis, but might be lack of knowledge rather than poor judgement.

 :rofl


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56556 on: February 01, 2019, 08:48:19 PM »
At this point whose not on their outrage shitlist?

First page and almost every reply is virtue signalling. For anything else it would count as thread derailment

https://www.resetera.com/threads/idris-elba-in-talks-to-star-in-max-landis-supernatural-thriller-deeper.97113/

haha and you get a couple replies down the page

"did anything actually come of the Max Landis #metoo?"

"nope it was just rumor"

but no one will notice and he'll go on being a persona el gratin and now Idris Elba too by proxy
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56557 on: February 01, 2019, 08:54:00 PM »
Ree’s going to implode if the Jussie Smollett attack turns out to be fabricated.
Celebrities and Reee posters are nuts for putting al their eggs into that basket, there’s almost no shot it happened exactly as he claimed

It sounds crazy, but then there are crazy motherfuckers out there. Like that Youtube video I posted recently of Ryan Stone who got 160 years in prison for going on a crazy rampage robbing cars and speeding down the highway. It happened in 2015 but I only just learned about it. He would go so far then stop, throw someone out of another car and speed off down the highway again. At one point he stole a car with a child still in the back seat. He nearly killed a police officer as well. You would think that is crazy enough, but it was the reason he gave that was beyond belief. He learned that you can actually make money off Youtube. So he hatched a plan to create one of the biggest car chases in history using multiple cars and then eventually making money off the footage on Youtube by copyright striking the channels showing it and claiming the money. What....What?

So yeah, crazy things happen. That said, if it turns out to be fake, I wouldn't be surprised if it is then claimed it was a social experiment(lol). That seems to be what happens when one side gets caught. Like the Democrats making fake Russian bot accounts and then claiming it was a social experiment when they got caught.

Either way, it best to wait and see what happens.


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56558 on: February 01, 2019, 09:07:27 PM »
The whole situation is just baffling

If you're a famous actor you don't rub bleach all over your primary source of income and go to the hospital to lie just to earn woke points

But if you're an idiot maga enthusiast in a world full of security cameras and cell phones in the middle of a crowded city, you don't completely get away with something like this with zero sightings/no rations used/Big Boss rank earned

So what the fuck
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56560 on: February 01, 2019, 09:21:34 PM »
The whole situation is just baffling

If you're a famous actor you don't rub bleach all over your primary source of income and go to the hospital to lie just to earn woke points

But if you're an idiot maga enthusiast in a world full of security cameras and cell phones in the middle of a crowded city, you don't completely get away with something like this with zero sightings/no rations used/Big Boss rank earned

So what the fuck

Yeah the lack of CCTV footage is weird. When that former Russian spy and his daughter got poisoned in Salisbury in the UK, they could pretty much track the agents that did it from Gatwick Airport to London, and from London to Salisbury. In London especially, you could track someone from CCTV camera to camera, from one side of London to the other.

I would imagine in a city like Chicago, it would be difficult to avoid cameras.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56561 on: February 01, 2019, 09:27:51 PM »
That would explain it.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56562 on: February 01, 2019, 09:30:08 PM »
He either got beat up for someone other reason and invented an anti-Trump way to sell it or he and his manager are mentally ill and thought this was a good way to up his profile and sell some albums and concert tickets

They have some cooberating footage just no footage of the attack. 

This isn't the UK, surveilance isn't as widespread or organized or done by the government as much.   The police largely have to request footage from a shit ton of random businesses and then piece that together with stuff they control if they have any. 

The fact they have footage of him walking around, and 2 guys walking around.. and nothing else.. suggests there's legitimately holes in the area where there are no cameras, or where the police have yet to obtain footage.

Surveillance by the government here is way more specific, like surrounding government buildings, or if it's done by the police in specific hot spots for crime.

You’re wrong. Chicago has a ridiculously wide net of police controlled cameras

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/05/26/us/chicago-police-surveillance.amp.html

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56563 on: February 01, 2019, 09:33:21 PM »
They have some cooberating footage just no footage of the attack. 

This isn't the UK, surveilance isn't as widespread or organized or done by the government as much.   The police largely have to request footage from a shit ton of random businesses and then piece that together with stuff they control if they have any. 

The fact they have footage of him walking around, and 2 guys walking around.. and nothing else.. suggests there's legitimately holes in the area where there are no cameras, or where the police have yet to obtain footage.

Surveillance by the government here is way more specific, like surrounding government buildings, or if it's done by the police in specific hot spots for crime.

Chicago is different than a lot of US cities though, it has invested a shit ton of money in wide-spread CCTV. The only evidence they have (that has been made public) is that there are 2 people walking in the vicinity of where he claimed to be attacked and a video from the lobby of his complex showing him with a noose around his neck.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56564 on: February 01, 2019, 09:37:21 PM »
You'd think if it was targeted (as in, premeditated such that a threatening letter was sent and they went around with a noose and bleach) there'd be more than "two people walking"

They'd be seen standing around for several hours waiting for him to show up

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56565 on: February 01, 2019, 09:38:49 PM »
For the record, I have no idea what to believe. It's a super fishy story, and the lack of ANY video showing anything is odd, but I'm not going to call the dude a liar. I'm just in it for the Twitter lulz, because the MAGA turds and the Woke turds are fighting an excellent war with a tiny sliver of info to go on.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56566 on: February 01, 2019, 09:43:43 PM »
I'm just as surprised there was no one around, no one looking down from a building above, like what is this an industrial construction zone

No one whipping out a cell phone, no one driving past, like is there even anyone who saw him walking around with a noose in the following minutes?

Apparently he was still wearing the noose in his apartment when the police arrived?
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56567 on: February 01, 2019, 09:44:06 PM »
It's not that there's gaps, it's that the only thing that they've found is a dark video of 2 randos out walking 30 mins before the attack. There's no footage or eyewitnesses of people running away, or suspicious vehicles, or *anything*.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56568 on: February 01, 2019, 09:44:18 PM »
his grindr date got too heated so he invented a cockamamie story about being lynched in maga country
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he claims he was on the phone while the assault happened but won't allow police to listen to it for intel
also he keeps the noose around his neck for 45 minutes after calling the police
also 2 magapedes walk around chicago at 2am with rope and a bottle of bleach and nothing happens to them
also these magapedes not only watch empire but are intimately familiar with this actor and his work

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56569 on: February 01, 2019, 09:46:41 PM »
The phone call is a strict NDA situation, he was discussing his role dubbing some lines for the first black Smash character in upcoming DLC

If the cops heard it they would leak the info and compromise his career
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56570 on: February 01, 2019, 09:49:41 PM »
yah the phone bit is stupid, lol. And it's what most of the MAGA turds are leaning on on twitter.  :doge

*edit* lol did you even read Uncles post Riotous? hahahahaha

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56571 on: February 01, 2019, 09:53:51 PM »
If the cops heard it

The fuck are you guys talking about?

How could the cops "hear" a phone call he alleged happened 45 minutes earlier?

wow he really made this hoax involve everything about trump.. pottery

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56572 on: February 01, 2019, 10:00:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/yall-are-sleeping-on-claire-redfield.97203/

Quote from: AdaWong, post: 17491903, member: 29681
Thanks to everyone so far for appreciating the detail! Don't worry, I do this for myself because I love sharing the shit I like to do on my free time haha. But yeah it's hilarious how Era thinks you're trolling if your OP is one line but also thinks you're trolling if your OP has stuff backing up your claims. XD







....yes. You're missing the entire point of all the data I'm crunching. The huge gap but similar clear rate is an important piece to the hypothesis and conclusion.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56573 on: February 01, 2019, 10:04:41 PM »
When SSB jokes go too far. Good job Uncle, you bastard.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56574 on: February 01, 2019, 10:13:36 PM »
Since you guys are back on the jussie situation, a twitter i've been following from a reporter with sources in the cpd said that the police have not seen any evidence of him having a broken rib, and that the security footage of him entering his building shows him still holding his subway sandwich.

So he was on the phone and holding his subway when he was attacked, and neither were damaged or stolen in the 'attack'? Every new piece of info makes it less believable.

https://twitter.com/RaferWeigel/status/1091460453388017666

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56575 on: February 01, 2019, 10:13:59 PM »
rye sr loves ssb jokes!


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56576 on: February 01, 2019, 10:18:37 PM »
yah the phone bit is stupid, lol. And it's what most of the MAGA turds are leaning on on twitter.  :doge

*edit* lol did you even read Uncles post Riotous? hahahahaha

Yes I read the post;  it was the second post in a row that acted like the cops could somehow "listen" to something on his phone.

And yes I read the rest of his joke, it makes no sense because.. again.. what the fuck would the cops "hear"?

so you are saying the cops DON'T need to sit down and listen?  :doge

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56577 on: February 01, 2019, 10:18:58 PM »
As soon as the investigation turns towards him it’ll fall apart. The phone logs and figuring out where the letter came from will be easy enough

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56578 on: February 01, 2019, 10:26:10 PM »
Honestly going from tiny Twitter info to info is stupid. Like what does holding his sandwich exactly mean? Was he munching on it? Ok, that's suspicious as hell. Was it wrapped and he just carried it home? That sounds normal to me. I'd carry my stuff home, even if beaten up.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #56579 on: February 01, 2019, 10:31:19 PM »
what type of sammy we talkin' here?
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