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[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/post-18371937

100% behind banning threads on THQ games and only allowing news threads like this about the company. Child Porn should be a hard line, period.

This is an old post in the THQ thread but I appreciate the simplicity and the number of layers removed between "users can't make threads about this game" and "pedophilia"

This is some Kevin Bacon shit

- User is banned from ResetEra
- The reason is because the user ignored the rules and made a thread to discuss Shenmue 3
- The user made a thread to discuss Shenmue 3 because he bought the game and was playing it and enjoying it
- Shenmue 3 is a much-anticipated video game made by Neilo and Ys Net headed up by a 60-year-old Japanese man who's had some hard luck in the industry at times
- He managed to get his sequel finally made through a successful Kickstarter and additional funding from Sony and publisher Deep Silver (funding announced Aug 2017)
- Through a series of incredibly silly events, THQ Nordic acquired Koch Media, parent company of Deep Silver in Feb 2018
- THQ Nordic has over 1000 employees, however at least one of them is a PR/social media manager
- This person decided to hold an impromptu, casual event where anyone can ask questions and the company can answer them, for fun
- This event was decided to take place at a board called 8chan
- 8chan has a lot of terrible users, but they tend to toe the line with what sort of content is allowed by US law
- However at one point in 2015, some really heinous shit was being posted and not taken down quickly enough, which got them temporarily blacklisted by Google until it was gone
- Therefore users discussing the game are directly supporting pedophilia and will be banned


Honestly I'm shocked they didn't take just a couple more steps

- 8chan is a site hosted on the internet, extending culpability to anyone who normalizes this communication platform
- The internet's creation can be traced back directly to significant contributions made by a man named Albert Gore
- Albert Gore was known to fraternize with a woman named Hillary Clinton
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[Uncle]

So....what's the plot about now?

It's not known if the game was ever about feminism, the posts resetera didn't like were from like 2014 when he was still spitballing ideas

It sounds like it's about a dude who can't jack into the fun matrix like everyone else

https://store.steampowered.com/app/612400/The_Last_Night/

Humans first knew the era of survival. Then they knew the era of work. Now they live in the era of leisure. Machines have surpassed human labour not only in strength, but in precision, intellect, and creativity. The fight for survival doesn’t mean food and water, but a purpose for living. People now define themselves by what they consume, not what they create.

The Last Night immerses you in the everyday life of Charlie, a second-class citizen living in a city brimming with augmentation and citizens living a gamified existence -- none of which Charlie can experience himself due to a childhood accident. Apathetic and disheartened by the seemingly pointless world around him, Charlie is presented with an opportunity to take matters into his own hands. But at what risk?

[HaughtyFrank]

lol at the updated title of the THQ thread

THQ Nordic holding an AMA on... 8chan (mainstream press now covering: Washington Post brings the heat)

Yes, these people are very concerned about the horrendous consequences this AMA had on children

[Great Rumbler]

So....what's the plot about now?

It's not known if the game was ever about feminism, the posts resetera didn't like were from like 2014 when he was still spitballing ideas

Yes, he's apologized for the stuff from 2014 numerous times and said that they don't have anything to do with what the game is today. Not that that's stopped RE from continuing to treat him as a pariah.

[Himu]

So they just shit on him because he's not a perfect person even though he has recanted? Why are they so mad? Why are they always mad at everything? Do they think this is a good advertisement for feminism? Why should anyone want to be a feminist if this is what being one constitutes?

[PogiJones]

So....what's the plot about now?

It's not known if the game was ever about feminism, the posts resetera didn't like were from like 2014 when he was still spitballing ideas

Yes, he's apologized for the stuff from 2014 numerous times and said that they don't have anything to do with what the game is today. Not that that's stopped RE from continuing to treat him as a pariah.

Which is so counterproductive to their cause. The point of punishment is to encourage a change of behavior. The change is motivated by the prospect of stopping the punishment. If you refuse to stop the punishment, you're undermining any power you had to effect change. Why would anyone apologize to these people?

[PogiJones]

And WHERE IS BENJI

[stufte]

So they just shit on him because he's not a perfect person even though he has recanted?

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Well he's also not a super progressive on twitter so they feel justified in their hate. 

[Anti-Monitor]

So they just shit on him because he's not a perfect person even though he has recanted?

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If people could change Liam Neeson wouldn't have killed four african american gentlemen today
 

[Himu]

So....what's the plot about now?

It's not known if the game was ever about feminism, the posts resetera didn't like were from like 2014 when he was still spitballing ideas

Yes, he's apologized for the stuff from 2014 numerous times and said that they don't have anything to do with what the game is today. Not that that's stopped RE from continuing to treat him as a pariah.

Which is so counterproductive to their cause. The point of punishment is to encourage a change of behavior. The change is motivated by the prospect of stopping the punishment. If you refuse to stop the punishment, you're undermining any power you had to effect change. Why would anyone apologize to these people?

Yeah, I'm confused. Changing minds and seeing their pov is why they're like this...right?

[PogiJones]

So they just shit on him because he's not a perfect person even though he has recanted?

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Well he's also not a super progressive on twitter so they feel justified in their hate. 

Well he called himself an  egalitarian

[Boredfrom]

Imagine if EA had done this. EA, one of the main pantomime villains in gaming, conducts an AMA on a website full of white supremacists that support and post child abuse and child porn. Gaming Youtubers everywhere would relentlessly swarm all over this like flies around a carcass, never willing to let go, because this is a legit goldmine. There would be material for weeks if not months, relentlessly and gleefully laughing at the company's expense for its association with child porn and loudly proclaiming it the worst PR disaster in living memory (most content creators and reports I imagine would gloss over the whole extreme homophobia and Nazism stuff). I can almost imagine the "EA ARE PAEDOS" video headlines and practically the whole of the gaming press going for the jugular with heavy hitting article after another. "After Anthem, EA drops to a whole new low!'

But since it's not EA or Activision but a smaller scale plucky publisher that so happens to have snapped up a whole bunch of formerly abandoned IPs that gamers remember and are fond of, the response has been as limp as a soggy rich tea biscuit left in a hot cuppa. Considering this is not some comparative "oopsie" where a single social media employee opts to be a bigot on Twitter but senior figures within the company making the active decision to happily play ball with some of the worst dregs the wretched corners of the internet have to offer and did not nope out after a nanosecond, is extraordinarily damning. In electing to give this story some of the most feeble coverage ever while sounding like they accept the bullshit apology as something genuine and said in good faith, the gaming press have failed spectacularly. In sounding as timid and feeble as they do, they are content with letting these guys off the hook. An all round trash fire.

The year may be young, but the magnitude of this fiasco is so damning and so great in multiple ways which go beyond the simple fact that there is almost certainly a pervasive corporate culture within THQ Nordic thinking it is worth courting child porn loving white supremacists, that I can't imagine this being topped as ResetEra's 2019 Fail of the Year. A travesty for the innocent employees and developers who had to watch in horror as their dipshit bosses went ahead with this stunt. A travesty for the gaming press in how reluctant it's been to rake THQ Nordic's asses over the coals for being chummy with regulars on a white supremacist child porn cesspool. A travesty for decent people as a whole with yet another likely confirmation that the company may get away with this relatively unscathed, but now protected by its own freshly recruited online brownshirts army.

And as for the CEO who would rather say and do nothing about this, your silence is more than enough to indicate tacit approval. To speculate that you're a coward would be way too charitable. To suggest you simply don't care would be way too kind. No, you flat out approve this shit given your sustained silence and without an ounce of moral integrity, would just rather it blows over. No reasonable CEO would stare at this raging fire, point to the guy holding the can of petrol and with suspicious burn marks all over him and be all "yeah what he said" and hope the inferno will quietly put itself out.

 

Thank you for stating the obvious.

[Snoopycat_]

That was yesterday. Today Liam was busy holding an AMA about his love of Nazi cosplaying on 12 Chan

[Uncle]

And WHERE IS BENJI

FOR I MUCH DESIRE TO SPEAK WITH HIM

[Coffee Dog]

I like how they treat mod sanctioned thread derailment as some sort of solution; you can just discuss the game like you would any other if you don't take obvious ban bait.

When cyberpunk releases, or any big deep silver or thq Nordic game, will people get banned for reminding other users of the ignore list? Is it bannable to choose not to engage and simply settle for navigating the shitshow of a thread?

[Boredfrom]

I dunno, I find great joy in exposing their dumb asses for more people to see. It's actually incredibly easy and requires very little effort. They are, after all, trying to normalize fucking child pornography. "Ignoring the trolls until they go away" demonstrably never works, on the other hand.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/page-101#post-18381279

 

[PogiJones]

So....what's the plot about now?

It's not known if the game was ever about feminism, the posts resetera didn't like were from like 2014 when he was still spitballing ideas

Yes, he's apologized for the stuff from 2014 numerous times and said that they don't have anything to do with what the game is today. Not that that's stopped RE from continuing to treat him as a pariah.

Which is so counterproductive to their cause. The point of punishment is to encourage a change of behavior. The change is motivated by the prospect of stopping the punishment. If you refuse to stop the punishment, you're undermining any power you had to effect change. Why would anyone apologize to these people?

Yeah, I'm confused. Changing minds and seeing their pov is why they're like this...right?

If I'm going to be a generous as possible to their rationale, they're focusing more on being a deterrent than being correctional. They don't want to correct the infidels; they want to make going against the dogma so unpalatable that fewer people do it.

The problem with their rationale is they think they have enough power to act as a deterrent, when they actually have like 10% of the userbase of most individual gaming subreddits.

[Boredfrom]

Wait a minute, 8chan is not banned by google search anymore...

 

[Himu]

TBH RE makes me proud to be an American. They make me proud to be American because we have a system like this:



And not like what they would have if they implemented their form of justice. Being American is so great. Watching congress do its thing today puts so much more faith in what Obama said about the subject,"the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." It's so great watching politics and policy happen as people actually do things rather than just get mad on the internet all the time.

[Jenkem]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lets-remember-the-time-kevin-bacon-and-his-cowboy-sidekick-saved-a-small-town-from-terror-incarnate.102382/

[Cauliflower Of Love]

benji is in court! leave him alone!

[agrajag]

And WHERE IS BENJI

FOR I MUCH DESIRE TO SPEAK WITH HIM

this one kind of bumps, but THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD is a timeless classic

 


wait that's the same song yours was just truncated

[Boredfrom]

So....what's the plot about now?

It's not known if the game was ever about feminism, the posts resetera didn't like were from like 2014 when he was still spitballing ideas

Yes, he's apologized for the stuff from 2014 numerous times and said that they don't have anything to do with what the game is today. Not that that's stopped RE from continuing to treat him as a pariah.

Which is so counterproductive to their cause. The point of punishment is to encourage a change of behavior. The change is motivated by the prospect of stopping the punishment. If you refuse to stop the punishment, you're undermining any power you had to effect change. Why would anyone apologize to these people?

Yeah, I'm confused. Changing minds and seeing their pov is why they're like this...right?

If I'm going to be a generous as possible to their rationale, they're focusing more on being a deterrent than being correctional. They don't want to correct the infidels; they want to make going against the dogma so unpalatable that fewer people do it.

The problem with their rationale is they think they have enough power to act as a deterrent, when they actually have like 10% of the userbase of most individual gaming subreddits.

I really think they are also overstimating that Washington Post article, but who knows. The fact that the article is relative fair and the title is not clickbait:

‘I do not condone child pornography’: Game company backtracks after Q&A on site once banned by Google

[Uncle]

By the way in case you're wondering exactly how angry and motivated to action ResetEra is right now

[HaughtyFrank]

benji is in court! leave him alone!

Oh my God...

Benji disappears...
Michael Cohen testifies...

[Himu]

I'm not defending 8chan, but remember when Reddit had a kiddie porn subreddit? Neogaf had a former pedophile mod and you weren't allowed to talk about it for months lest you risk a ban. Being banned from google doesn't really mean much.

[agrajag]

Оставте старика Бенджи в покое.

[Uncle]

I'm not defending 8chan, but remember when Reddit had a kiddie porn subreddit? Neogaf had a former pedophile mod and you weren't allowed to talk about it for months lest you risk a ban. Being banned from google doesn't really mean much.

Also Twitter literally just banned artwork depicting minors two days ago

After operating for 13 years

[Boredfrom]

I'm not defending 8chan, but remember when Reddit had a kiddie porn subreddit? Neogaf had a former pedophile mod and you weren't allowed to talk about it for months lest you risk a ban. Being banned from google doesn't really mean much.

I though they were permabanned from google not that they even had a fucking wikipedia article. 

[james]

I'm not defending 8chan, but remember when Reddit had a kiddie porn subreddit? Neogaf had a former pedophile mod and you weren't allowed to talk about it for months lest you risk a ban. Being banned from google doesn't really mean much.

Jailbait isnt the same as kiddie porn, ask Amirox

[Himu]

I'm not defending 8chan, but remember when Reddit had a kiddie porn subreddit? Neogaf had a former pedophile mod and you weren't allowed to talk about it for months lest you risk a ban. Being banned from google doesn't really mean much.

Also Twitter literally just banned artwork depicting minors two days ago

Right? So uhhh...

[Boredfrom]

For some people, like myself, it's less about "ignoring them until they go away" and more that because I've been calling them out over the years, be it on Twitter or my site, it just becomes too exhausting. It's like ramming your head against something that is as dense and as stupid as a brick wall over and over and expecting the outcome to change.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/page-101#post-18381590

 

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

[Boredfrom]

Yeah, wtf Kotaku. You’d think they of all outlets would be better at this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/page-101#post-18382099

   

[stufte]

Yeah, wtf Kotaku. You’d think they of all outlets would be better at this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/page-101#post-18382099

   

WHY WON'T OUR CHOOSEN GAMING BLOG HATE AS HARD AS WE ARE???

[PogiJones]

Michael Cohen being benji is like the funniest thing to me

[Uncle]

Yeah, wtf Kotaku. You’d think they of all outlets would be better at this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/page-101#post-18382099

   

Kotaku was lenient because the article was written by the guy who was accused of sleeping with Quinn and kicked off the Gamergate controversy in the first place so it's not like he would have any personal investment in 8chan or anything

[ResetBanBot]

Wait a minute, 8chan is not banned by google search anymore...

 

It hasn't been for years. I think you now officially qualify as a journalist for your fact checking.

[Bore Expert]

Оставте старика Бенджи в покое.

ты не скользкий

 

[Boredfrom]

Wait a minute, 8chan is not banned by google search anymore...

 

It hasn't been for years. I think you now officially qualify as a journalist for your fact checking.

 

[PogiJones]

Michael Cohen, after a grueling day of testifying and working to take down the president, hops online and posts endless quotes of Frank O'Connor's ramblings and calls someone incelsiorlef

[Uncle]

I don’t think that was an accusation he deep dicked that doggy.  Woof

ok sure gator

[agrajag]

Оставте старика Бенджи в покое.

ты не скользкий

 

 

[Shuri]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-will-not-return-as-deadshot-in-suicide-squad-2.102405/

 Truth is, Gunn probably doesn't want to waste millions  again on fading B-listers  Will Smith. His last movie that didnt flop was Hancock, released in 2008, 11 years ago..

[Boredfrom]

 

Suicide Squad didn’t flop commercially, though.

[Shuri]

Suicide Squad didn’t flop commercially, though.

Yes but, I highly doubt  many people went to see it because of Will Smith.

[Boredfrom]

Uh, oh. ShockingAlberto getting defensive:

Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/page-102#post-18383266

[stufte]

They're calling developers? Jesus, these people are insane.

[Uncle]

Oh shit, I just remembered, THQ owns Deep Silver who published Metro Exodus, an Epic exclusive. I wonder what Epic's stance is on exclusively hosting a game from a publisher that's owned by THQ Nordic, that's gotta be a bit of a bad look, PR wise.

Watch this space I guess!

 

Oh but wait it doesn't stop there!

THQ Nordic is based in Vienna, Austria, I wonder if Austria realizes they are harboring a game holdings company which supports pedophilia and Nazi sites?  Austria was pretty heavily entrenched in Nazi Germany, surely they don't want the slightest whiff of any companies based there supporting the rise of modern Nazism?

I'm going to contact my Austrian embassy, it'd be nice if others who live in different countries would be willing to contact theirs, too

[Boredfrom]

Is already a bad look that Epic paid for a last minute exclusivity while blindsiding the Metro devs.

[Uncle]

Wait, that thread has been open for about 24 hours

It's at 102 fucking pages

There have been 3 and a half posts per minute for 24 hours straight

[Boredfrom]

They're calling developers? Jesus, these people are insane.

 

ShockingAlberto is a journo.

[stufte]

They're calling developers? Jesus, these people are insane.

 

ShockingAlberto is a journo.

You spelled "Blogger" wrong.

[PogiJones]

Talking about another forum's history and connection to child porn is bannable as cross-forum drama.

This ban was handed out in a thread about another forum's history and connection to child porn.

 

[Boredfrom]

They're calling developers? Jesus, these people are insane.

 

ShockingAlberto is a journo.

You spelled "Blogger" wrong.

Just saying that is weird to see Imran is getting defensive as Era is shitting on gaming journos.

[PogiJones]

They're calling developers? Jesus, these people are insane.

 

ShockingAlberto is a journo.

You spelled "Blogger" wrong.

Just saying that is weird to see Imran is getting defensive as Era is shitting on gaming journos.

You mean to say they're demonizing journalism?!

[HaughtyFrank]

Okay, can I ask what further news you wanted outlets to keep doing today? I have tried to call multiple THQN people today, they're in lockdown mode. What story did you want from that? "Company that didn't comment yesterday is hella not commenting today"?

Well, yes, informing people that they are actively dodging answering about this is worthwhile. If no pressure to answer is applied, they have no reason to do so. They want this to pass.

"Breaking news, still no response"

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-black-culture-community-ot-4-melanin-and-estrogen-the-new-kryptonite.74863/page-160#post-18383274

Bct is mad. Papa slay gotta sort it

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-black-culture-community-ot-4-melanin-and-estrogen-the-new-kryptonite.74863/page-160#post-18383274

Bct is mad. Papa slay gotta sort it

It's really too bad that there's a screenshot above saying 1 week which would make any changes to his jailtime real obvious

You mean because be brought up gaf? He wasn't the only one to do that. But the only one banned.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thq-nordic-holding-an-ama-on-8chan-mainstream-press-now-covering-washington-post-brings-the-heat-read-threadmarks.102061/page-50#post-18377591

Did they bring up in a similar way?

page-50#post-18377591

Slayven makes the same mistake linking directly to posts that people here do

on his own forum

[Uncle]

He got banned for the cross forum drama and the accustions. On top that wasn't his first time doing such a thing. Like I said he was doing fine up to he started making it personal.

Pointing out a posters hyperbolic and hypocritical post, is considered making accusations and making it personal ?

Diz also said in his post " All of this holier than thou" which was at everyone in that thread that was calling for a ban. Not one just the one poster.

By that line of logic, i should have been banned for my posts in the Catherine thread. Or even more recently, The Overwatch actress being harassed thread.

The lines crossed are apparent, you can talk about something without wilding out. Other posters do it everyday.

But the line crossing isn't apparent though. Otherwise i wouldn't be arguing the reason for his ban.

And if that's considered line stepping. Why haven't i been banned for those two thread i mentioned ?

Please point out exactly how Diz's post is considered breaking the TOS.

Shy to Slayven:

[counterhit]

Imagine if EA had done this. EA, one of the main pantomime villains in gaming, conducts an AMA on a website full of white supremacists that support and post child abuse and child porn. Gaming Youtubers everywhere would relentlessly swarm all over this like flies around a carcass, never willing to let go, because this is a legit goldmine. There would be material for weeks if not months, relentlessly and gleefully laughing at the company's expense for its association with child porn and loudly proclaiming it the worst PR disaster in living memory (most content creators and reports I imagine would gloss over the whole extreme homophobia and Nazism stuff). I can almost imagine the "EA ARE PAEDOS" video headlines and practically the whole of the gaming press going for the jugular with heavy hitting article after another. "After Anthem, EA drops to a whole new low!'

But since it's not EA or Activision but a smaller scale plucky publisher that so happens to have snapped up a whole bunch of formerly abandoned IPs that gamers remember and are fond of, the response has been as limp as a soggy rich tea biscuit left in a hot cuppa. Considering this is not some comparative "oopsie" where a single social media employee opts to be a bigot on Twitter but senior figures within the company making the active decision to happily play ball with some of the worst dregs the wretched corners of the internet have to offer and did not nope out after a nanosecond, is extraordinarily damning. In electing to give this story some of the most feeble coverage ever while sounding like they accept the bullshit apology as something genuine and said in good faith, the gaming press have failed spectacularly. In sounding as timid and feeble as they do, they are content with letting these guys off the hook. An all round trash fire.

The year may be young, but the magnitude of this fiasco is so damning and so great in multiple ways which go beyond the simple fact that there is almost certainly a pervasive corporate culture within THQ Nordic thinking it is worth courting child porn loving white supremacists, that I can't imagine this being topped as ResetEra's 2019 Fail of the Year. A travesty for the innocent employees and developers who had to watch in horror as their dipshit bosses went ahead with this stunt. A travesty for the gaming press in how reluctant it's been to rake THQ Nordic's asses over the coals for being chummy with regulars on a white supremacist child porn cesspool. A travesty for decent people as a whole with yet another likely confirmation that the company may get away with this relatively unscathed, but now protected by its own freshly recruited online brownshirts army.

And as for the CEO who would rather say and do nothing about this, your silence is more than enough to indicate tacit approval. To speculate that you're a coward would be way too charitable. To suggest you simply don't care would be way too kind. No, you flat out approve this shit given your sustained silence and without an ounce of moral integrity, would just rather it blows over. No reasonable CEO would stare at this raging fire, point to the guy holding the can of petrol and with suspicious burn marks all over him and be all "yeah what he said" and hope the inferno will quietly put itself out.

 

Thank you for stating the obvious.

I was going to post this whole thing, it's fucking hilarious. Reset Era is trying so hard to push this "THQ supports pedophilia" angle when it is just an opportunity for a naked power play on their part. It's all in "bad faith", as they would say. Going onto 8chan was clearly dumb for a brand/PR move, but there's still a natural limit to how much you can say that means, it doesn't really give you the license to make shit up. However, if history (limited to just videogames/GAF even) tells us anything though, if you say it enough and ban anything that opposes you, you might just be able to convince yourself and everyone around you.

Anyway Anthem is definitely set for 2019 Fail of the Year, RIP Bioware. I hope this retar- Alex Jones intellect level individual loses his shit.