Shenmue I and II HD thread

[bork]

That's what I watched and a German one 

e: also didn't digital foundry give their dumb approval too?

John probably didn't play enough to encounter any of these.

This kind of shit needs to stop, but I guess the sites have got to crank out videos ASAP.  He was hyping up Onrush, too- glad I didn't fall for that shit. 

[BisMarckie]

I guess I'll wait before buying this on steam tonight. 

[Tasty]

Hoping these kinks are worked out whenever I get around to playing these, which is presumably next summer before III (but I fully believe it's not making that date anyways, so...)

[Himu]

Being told by other Shenmue fans that I was the only who liked analog control in II and that I should deal with it because all modern games use a run button right now. Apparently I’ve been playing a game I regularly play for the past 12 years wrong.

[bork]

that I should deal with it because all modern games use a run button right now

Are you posting on REEE again? 

Oh, GAF?  What did you expect?

[Positive Touch]

haven't tried 2 yet but 1 is 99% fine. If there isn't a fix for them today then I'm sure it'll come soon enough, but right now it plays as stable as most any other game.

except for that one cutscene y'all are talking about; that seems to fuck up for everyone lol

[Himu]

that I should deal with it because all modern games use a run button right now

Are you posting on REEE again? 

Oh, GAF?  What did you expect?

No Shenmue Facebook group

[Himu]

Pc version apparently less buggy

https://www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-current-build-of-the-pc-version-is-so-much-better-than-consoles.364/

[bork]

Pc version apparently less buggy

https://www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-current-build-of-the-pc-version-is-so-much-better-than-consoles.364/

There's bugs in all three versions- Lots of PC bugs reported in this thread:

https://www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/shenmue-i-ii-issues-bugs-thread-shenmue-dojo.340/

There really is no excuse for two old games to be re-released in this state.

[Positive Touch]

lmao these aren't overly buggy ports lol this is getting overblown

[bork]

lmao these aren't overly buggy ports lol this is getting overblown

Totally.

https://twitter.com/pete_tnt/status/1032017584705683458

[Tasty]

Being told by other Shenmue fans that I was the only who liked analog control in II and that I should deal with it because all modern games use a run button right now. Apparently I’ve been playing a game I regularly play for the past 12 years wrong.

It was wrong when Super Mario 3D World replaced analogue control with a wrong button, so it's probably wrong here too.

We have analogue sticks for a reason.

[Tasty]

Though changing it to a run button wouldn't bother me much in a walking simulator like Shenmue as much as in a 3D platformer so it's hard for me to get too worked up about it.

[Himu]

Let’s talk positives.

Shenmue 1 with Japanese voices might well be one of the most atmospheric games of all time. It’s not the best va but it’s still pretty dam good for its time. It just brings you so much more in the game world and it feels fantastic.

[Himu]

Though changing it to a run button wouldn't bother me much in a walking simulator like Shenmue as much as in a 3D platformer so it's hard for me to get too worked up about it.

You run a lot in Shenmue though

[mormapope]

Silent Hill HD collection and the ZoE HD collection amount to the definition of bad remastering. Every HD remastering or collection for games past the 360/PS3 gen has a funky taste somewhere if you look hard enough.

The MGS HD collection was immaculate and bluepoint handled it. I still would get a visual glitch in MGS2 where all the water had a digital artifact rainbow rainbow pattern. The DMC HD collection on 360/PS3 had a bug where the Royal Guard style in DMC3 wouldn't work as intended, one of the abilities straight up wouldn't work.

All my rambling aside, these ports seem serviceable, and there aren't really fucked up issues yet.

[Himu]

Working on a video with general tips and tricks for new or returning Shenmue players

[daycru]

Ugh might break down and buy before price drops, listening to the OST on YouTube

[Himu]

I’m having a blast

[Himu]

Holy shit I got kids silver dural!!!

[Himu]

Great us gamer post.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-fans-who-never-let-shenmue-die

And great post from a Shenmue newcomer!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shenmue/comments/996tel/first_timers_thoughts/

[Sho Nuff]

Silent Hill HD collection and the ZoE HD collection amount to the definition of bad remastering. Every HD remastering or collection for games past the 360/PS3 gen has a funky taste somewhere if you look hard enough.

The MGS HD collection was immaculate and bluepoint handled it. I still would get a visual glitch in MGS2 where all the water had a digital artifact rainbow rainbow pattern. The DMC HD collection on 360/PS3 had a bug where the Royal Guard style in DMC3 wouldn't work as intended, one of the abilities straight up wouldn't work.

All my rambling aside, these ports seem serviceable, and there aren't really fucked up issues yet.

I think most DC ports have been okay since the Dreamcast just pushed raw polygons without any weird PS2-grade Emotion Engine Vector Unit frame buffer nonsense trickery. JUST DRAW THEM POLYGONS BABY

[paprikastaude]

I had no problems so far except it's not possible to turn the fucking bloom off. After a few seconds it will always come back. I only tried in the ingame menu though, maybe it works if I change it straight in the opening menu.

[bork]

I had no problems so far except it's not possible to turn the fucking bloom off. After a few seconds it will always come back. I only tried in the ingame menu though, maybe it works if I change it straight in the opening menu.

Seeing others saying the same thing. 

[Himu]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-time-shenmue-players-your-thoughts-and-impressions.63499/

[Positive Touch]

i want to win the home versions of the arcade games this time. i never fucking win those.

[Himu]

The best dates for raffle are Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, January 1-4. You’re more likely to win the raffle on those days.

[Bebpo]

Silent Hill HD collection and the ZoE HD collection amount to the definition of bad remastering. Every HD remastering or collection for games past the 360/PS3 gen has a funky taste somewhere if you look hard enough.

The MGS HD collection was immaculate and bluepoint handled it. I still would get a visual glitch in MGS2 where all the water had a digital artifact rainbow rainbow pattern. The DMC HD collection on 360/PS3 had a bug where the Royal Guard style in DMC3 wouldn't work as intended, one of the abilities straight up wouldn't work.

All my rambling aside, these ports seem serviceable, and there aren't really fucked up issues yet.

Kinda aside, but did they fix that DMC3 issue? Would like to replay DMC3 someday and I love the RG parties so that sounds bad.

[Himu]

Also Pos, increasing your raffle win: click x (ps4) or A (Xbox, Dreamcast) to the sound of Ryo shuffling the tickets. You press the confirm button after the fifth shuffle right before the X/A icon pops up.

[bork]

Silent Hill HD collection and the ZoE HD collection amount to the definition of bad remastering. Every HD remastering or collection for games past the 360/PS3 gen has a funky taste somewhere if you look hard enough.

The MGS HD collection was immaculate and bluepoint handled it. I still would get a visual glitch in MGS2 where all the water had a digital artifact rainbow rainbow pattern. The DMC HD collection on 360/PS3 had a bug where the Royal Guard style in DMC3 wouldn't work as intended, one of the abilities straight up wouldn't work.

All my rambling aside, these ports seem serviceable, and there aren't really fucked up issues yet.

Kinda aside, but did they fix that DMC3 issue? Would like to replay DMC3 someday and I love the RG parties so that sounds bad.

Don't see anyone talking about a problem with Royal Guard in the PC/PS4/Xbone versions.

[Himu]

Great thread!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-time-shenmue-players-your-thoughts-and-impressions.63499/

[HardcoreRetro]

Them people finding out you have to look at an in-game map to find out where you are.

That was one of my favourite things in the first Darkness game. To properly use the subway you gotta read the signs and there's public information displays to find your bearings. (End up watching all old cartoons on the tv in the homeless guy's shopping cart instead of going where you have to go. Think there's entire movies on it. On Jackie's birthday you can watch the entirety of To Kill a Mockingbird with his girlfriend.)

[kingv]

I guess i preordered this... just got a notice to pick it up st Best Buy.

[Himu]

Them people finding out you have to look at an in-game map to find out where you are.

That was one of my favourite things in the first Darkness game. To properly use the subway you gotta read the signs and there's public information displays to find your bearings. (End up watching all old cartoons on the tv in the homeless guy's shopping cart instead of going where you have to go. Think there's entire movies on it. On Jackie's birthday you can watch the entirety of To Kill a Mockingbird with his girlfriend.)

That sounds cool.

[HardcoreRetro]

It's one of my favourite games from the PS3/360 era. FPS game with a heavy emphasis on storytelling. Same people that made the Chronicles of Riddick game.

[Himu]

It's one of my favourite games from the PS3/360 era. FPS game with a heavy emphasis on storytelling. Same people that made the Chronicles of Riddick game.

I’ll check it. Riddick is one of my favorite FPS games.

[Positive Touch]

ngl i am sad they didn't work in the passport disc. i mean i knew they wouldn't, but still. i liked the online functions in those old dreamcast games; they had a lot of unique artwork.

[Himu]

ngl i am sad they didn't work in the passport disc. i mean i knew they wouldn't, but still. i liked the online functions in those old dreamcast games; they had a lot of unique artwork.

Yeah same. That would have been my dream scenario: Shenmue  with working passport. Being a fan that came after they shut down the servers, I never got to experience passport. Thankfully the data (character profiles) was extracted to places like Dojo so it wasn’t lost entirely. A lot of features like winning cans can’t be used without it. Speaking of winning cans, take them to tomato for a free raffle. Save em up for Christmas.

[Himu]

That reset thread has made my heart grow three times today. I can’t handle so many positive impressions of my favorite games!! After so long! The ridicule, the jokes, the trolls! We made it!!!!

[Positive Touch]

i honestly thought most people would write it off real fast; I'm honestly surprised that so many people have taken to it. kinda reminds me if last year's FF12 rerelease, as both games were really ragged on at release but have since gained acceptance bc their unusual gameplay isn't so unusual anymore.

[Himu]

Sometimes you live long enough to become the hero

[Himu]

https://www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/shenmue-i-re-release-16-9-cutscenes-fix.358/

Espirral

[Kurt Russell]

i want to win the home versions of the arcade games this time. i never fucking win those.

I won one - never have done before. Can I actually play it?

[Positive Touch]

bam got the space harrier disc fuck I'm awesome


If you check under the tv in ryo's living room you can find a Saturn. use your game disc in front of it and now you can play your game without going to the arcade!

[Kurt Russell]

How the fuck is there a Saturn in 1986?!

[bork]

How the fuck is there a Saturn in 1986?!

Ryo's uncle's cousin's father's friend worked at Sega.

[Himu]

Okay so, Shenmue HD doesn’t have soft reset. How do I use money exploits in 2 quickly and quickly reset after falling off a plank?

[Himu]

I'm a recent Yakuza convert. 0 was my first and now I love the series

Now that I'm finally playing Shenmue, the whole "Yakuza is a better/evolved Shenmue" thing is just utterly baffling. The games couldn't be more different. It's like saying Fallout 3 is a better STALKER because they're both post-apocalyptic and have guns

Yakuza is a JRPG-esque brawler with copious amounts of combat, with insane over-the-top moments that somehow work perfectly with the emotional yakuza drama. It's fast and frenetic and flashy and everything revolves around fighting.

Shenmue is slow and sedate, a 3D visual novel/adventure game that occasionally has some combat, but is more concerned about letting you meander around town and being a slice-of-life proto-immersive sim.

The only similarities that Yakuza and Shenmue share is that they're story driven and that they happen in lively atmospheric sandboxes. Beyond that, the games are nothing alike. I don't get this continued insistence that Yakuza and Shenmue are so similar because they aren't, at all. They're practically in entirely different genres, their pace and gameplay and designs are so different

MORE_BADASS

[StealthFan]

Nicca just fought some schoolgirls

[Trent Dole]

https://twitter.com/GameSack/status/1032881307179610113

[kingv]

Going to pick up from Best Buy this afternoon... but not exactly sure when I will start it. So many games coming out soon.

[paprikastaude]

I'm curiously digging the forklift quest, but this is also where the glitches got out of control. So far it was mostly sound glitches whose extent was bearable in contrast to the overall game time. But now the forklift bg song is bugged, it can't repeat more than a couple of times and any new event will add different kinds of broken noise until you restart the game from the PS menu.  And you can't restart during the job, because you can only save afterwards. Also I just now saw that the entire training progression might be screwed up.

Admittedly, I'm still playing unpatched, since in my setup I usually keep my PS4 offline. It's funny. This is only the second offline HD game for which ever needed the day 1 patch - and it's a Dreamcast port. Christ Sega, fuck you.

[StealthFan]

Widescreen cutscenes are now bugged gonna wait for patch

[Himu]

I'm curiously digging the forklift quest, but this is also where the glitches got out of control. So far it was mostly sound glitches whose extent was bearable in contrast to the overall game time. But now the forklift bg song is bugged, it can't repeat more than a couple of times and any new event will add different kinds of broken noise until you restart the game from the PS menu.  And you can't restart during the job, because you can only save afterwards. Also I just now saw that the entire training progression might be screwed up.

Admittedly, I'm still playing unpatched, since in my setup I usually keep my PS4 offline. It's funny. This is only the second offline HD game for which ever needed the day 1 patch - and it's a Dreamcast port. Christ Sega, fuck you.

Get the patch.

And the job is relaxing and fun as shit. I like to maximize my profits and beat the quota every day.

[Himu]

Disc 3 is the best part of the game. The mix of investigation and action with mundanity is Shenmue incarnate. Fantastic section and if you like that you're safe down the rest of the road.

[HardcoreRetro]

Here's some positivity for this negative thread.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

You might get a kick out of the like/dislike ratio on the vid Cindi.

[close]

[Himu]

my problem with all these impressions and reviews is there's nothing on the superior game: shenmue II. In today, when Shenmue Ii is bundled, no one talks about it. Because Shenmue 1 is such a massive fucking litmus test to pass to even get to it.

My opinion can be summarized as follows: judging Shenmue franchise as a whole solely via 1 makes you a dumb fuck.

[mormapope]

my problem with all these impressions and reviews is there's nothing on the superior game: shenmue II. In today, when Shenmue Ii is bundled, no one talks about it. Because Shenmue 1 is such a massive fucking litmus test to pass to even get to it.

My opinion can be summarized as follows: judging Shenmue franchise as a whole solely via 1 makes you a dumb fuck.

 

I'd say this is the case because Shenmue 2 in the United States was officially released on OG Xbox in 2002. Shenmue 1 is a quintessential part of any Dreamcast collection. Shenmue 1 got a lot more exposure due to circumstance.

Shenmue 2 was critically acclaimed at the time I believe. I played Shenmue 2 first, and it was difficult playing Shenmue 1 the first time due to that.

[Joe Molotov]

Importing the Shenmue 2 Euro version on Dreamcast 

A CD-R with Utopia written on it in black marker

[Himu]

I also imported.

But even now no one talks about II. Read the reviews. It's all Shenmue I.