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Re: FGC Player Infiltration Accused Of Physically/Verbally Assaulting Ex-Wife
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2018, 03:53:51 PM »
yeah i've seen a bit about that but i find it somewhat difficult to take "u/criminal-seonwoo-lee" at their word as being unbiased in the situation. there's not much to go on other than a few images and an audio recording that is not translated. supposedly it's also very difficult to access korean record websites without access to a korean ssn equivalent so there's not a lot of ways to verify this info.

what is kinda weird is they also accused him of defrauding razer when he was sponsored by them and markman immediately jumped in and said that wasn't the case but didn't say a word on the other parts.



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Re: FGC Player Infiltration Accused Of Physically/Verbally Assaulting Ex-Wife
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2018, 03:56:28 PM »
Who cares if they're unbiased if the facts they're presenting are true?

I'd be biased too learning about all that shit.

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2018, 03:58:18 PM »
 they are also the only one saying the facts/documents are true and there's no way to verify the info presented because no one can access the sites they are taken from, so it's not exactly a trustworthy source or info imo.

anyway his sponsor is doing an investigation into this and he's stepping away from competition until the investigation is done, so that's good enough for now.

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Re: FGC Player Infiltration Accused Of Physically/Verbally Assaulting Ex-Wife
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2018, 04:09:20 PM »
it's kappa, i dunno what you expect lol. i'm amazed they even had time to fit this post in between porn, posts about sfv being for mouthbreathers, and comparisons of FG stream numbers on a random wednesday

wait a sec, is white_phoenix the guy who tore up his basement over tekken losses? :lol
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 04:11:57 PM »
Kappa sucks and is a bad representation of the fgc. Most are stream monsters. They aren’t the fgc, Andrex. Guarantee that if this is true, infil might be banned from events in America. We don’t want that here.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 04:12:24 PM »
it's kappa, i dunno what you expect lol. i'm amazed they even had time to fit this post in between porn, posts about sfv being for mouthbreathers, and comparisons of FG stream numbers on a random wednesday

wait a sec, is white_phoenix the guy who tore up his basement over tekken losses? :lol

Nah Phoenix rising I think
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Re: FGC Player Infiltration Accused Of Physically/Verbally Assaulting Ex-Wife
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 05:45:06 PM »
Splitting this into its own topic.  Sure, it's about an FGC guy, but it has nothing to do with fighting games.

yeah i've seen a bit about that but i find it somewhat difficult to take "u/criminal-seonwoo-lee" at their word as being unbiased in the situation. there's not much to go on other than a few images and an audio recording that is not translated. supposedly it's also very difficult to access korean record websites without access to a korean ssn equivalent so there's not a lot of ways to verify this info.

what is kinda weird is they also accused him of defrauding razer when he was sponsored by them and markman immediately jumped in and said that wasn't the case but didn't say a word on the other parts.

There are some translations that have popped up and I didn't see anyone disputing them.  You can also feed his ex-wife's tweets into Google Translate and get a general idea of what she's been saying.  They are absolutely about a court case- The first one says that the opposing lawyers told her she can't say anything about the situation publicly. 

Apparently the facts/sequence of events are as follows:

1. Infiltration's marriage ends after only six months
2. His ex-wife took him to court, citing that he beat her numerous times.  He also verbally-abused her and she recorded it, but this was inadmissible in court and she got the transcription done, which was accepted.  She won this case.
3. Unsure if these events took place before or after this, but she got a restraining order against him, and when it was over, he assaulted her again.
4. A lawsuit is currently on-going and Infiltration is not required to be in court for this, just his lawyer.
5. After these events got out, his sponsor, Panda Gaming, suspended him from playing at TGS this weekend.

What I believe is not (supposedly) factual and can be treated more as rumor/hearsay is that he defrauded Razer and that he went to Japan this week to "escape" what was happening in Korea.  The latter makes no sense to me since he was supposed to be there for Panda Gaming at TGS.

I don't know a thing the South Korean legal system, but what has me scratching my head a bit here is that if he was taken to court and it was proven that he was beating the shit out of and verbally abusing his wife (like a psycho- if you read the translations, it's some sick, sick shit), then assaulting her after a restraining order was issued, how the hell he is not in jail and allowed to leave the country?  Furthermore, NOBODY in Korea said anything about this until now?  Nobody at all?

The counter people are saying is that "it's a part of Korean culture and this stuff happens often," but...come on.  I find that hard to believe.  Also wondering why A) Random Reddit guy pops up and says he/she knew all this for months and months and only now came forward and B) why everyone is so quick to believe of all it.  I don't just mean REEEEEEEEE, where they all immediately began shitting on him when we didn't have much to go on, but even his sponsor.  The fact that they are taking this so seriously already to me is a sign that this stuff is probably all true.

The best response I've seen towards this situation was a tweet that said something along the lines of "either Infiltration did some horrible, sick shit or someone is trying to bury the guy with false information...and either way, it's entirely fucked up."
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Re: FGC Player Infiltration Accused Of Physically/Verbally Assaulting Ex-Wife
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 05:55:45 PM »
wait a sec, is white_phoenix the guy who tore up his basement over tekken losses? :lol

Wasn't that Pheonix_Rising?

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Re: FGC Player Infiltration Accused Of Physically/Verbally Assaulting Ex-Wife
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2018, 06:00:43 PM »
wait a sec, is white_phoenix the guy who tore up his basement over tekken losses? :lol

Wasn't that Pheonix_Rising?

Yup.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2018, 07:02:59 PM »
Also wondering why A) Random Reddit guy pops up and says he/she knew all this for months and months and only now came forward and B) why everyone is so quick to believe of all it.  I don't just mean REEEEEEEEE, where they all immediately began shitting on him when we didn't have much to go on, but even his sponsor.  The fact that they are taking this so seriously already to me is a sign that this stuff is probably all true.
People love to believe and perpetrate drama, especially the FGC. it's basically just a giant, cliquey highschool even now.

The sponsor thing doesn't mean much to me. All these sponsors are very brand conscious and I see it more of a thing like "we said we're looking into it since people won't stop tweeting us so we can't let this dude out there with our gear on while this is a big thing". kinda the same way chris hardwick was taken off tv while his thing was being investigated.

the whole "korea is okay with domestic abuse" idea sorta rings false with me as well but i'll admit i don't know shit about their culture.
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Re: FGC player Infiltration accused of physically/verbally assaulting ex-wife
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2018, 10:26:26 PM »
There’s no fucking way infiltration steps on USA soil for a tournament any time soon. Piece of shit.
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Re: FGC player Infiltration accused of physically/verbally assaulting ex-wife
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2018, 12:07:44 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/9he2ya/translation_of_the_transcript/

 :(

Yeah, I read that while reading through the initial post. It's brutal and damning. Anyone that hasn't read it, uh... don't.

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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2018, 09:34:58 PM »
Uh that transcript is wild fucked up.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2018, 09:10:25 AM »
Update on this situation:

Banned from the CPT until 2020 and released from Panda Global:
https://capcomprotour.com/capcom-response-charges-seon-woo-infiltration-lee/

Investigation summary (which I think is from Panda Global's findings?):
https://www.scribd.com/document/393305829/Investigation-Summary

There's some interesting points being made here.  One is that a lot of the stuff the anonymous source posted on reddit, that got him in trouble in the first place, are either greatly exaggerated or completely false.  It doesn't appear that any of the previous transcripts of him being a verbally-abusive monster are actually true.

There was one report of domestic violence, or at least this is what led to Infiltration accepting the charge with urging from the police (he did not have a lawyer at the time):
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On October 29 Ms. X obtained a medical note from a hospital which states she was diagnosed on October 23 with bruising and an injury to the wrist with no hospitalization necessary. The medical note is short, with limited information and no description of injuries or locations other than wrist. No photographic evidence of the injury was ever submitted to court.[source: medical note, legal file]

It appears that Infiltration may be the one who started the break up and wanted to get his stuff out of the house.  It's possible that any injuries were sustained from both of them having a domestic spat.

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    On October 22,, 2017 an altercation occurred between Player and Ms. X following a discussion regarding ending their relationship. Both parties threatened to call the police to report each other for assault and fought over Ms X’s phone. [source: Full audio transcript]

    The excerpts are from an authentic certified document. They were presented out of order, and omitted informative elements of the interaction of the two parties:
    ●References made to the source of conflict: Player wanting divorce.
    ●Both parties threatening to report the other for assault. Ms. X: “You report, I report, let each of us report!”
    ●Player stating: “How can you accuse me of assault if there was no violence.

    On October 29 Ms. X obtained a medical note from a hospital which states she was diagnosed on October 23 with bruising and an injury to the wrist with no hospitalization necessary. The medical note is short, with limited information and no description of injuries or locations other than wrist. No photographic evidence of the injury was ever submitted to court.[source: medical note, legal file]

    On November 2, 2017, the day before the restraining order was lifted, Player contacted Ms. X to inform her that he and his mother will arrive the following day to collect his personal belongings. Ms. X replies to Player that if he does not intend on moving back in with her she will not open the door for him.[source: text message records]

    From October 27, 2017 - November 30, 2017, Ms. X made repeated attempts to contact Player. The messages sent include requests that Player not pursue divorce and other statements showing concern for Player’s well being. Player did not respond to these communications outside of arranging to pick-up his belongings.[text message record, October 27, 2017 - November 30, 2017]

We're never going to know because his ex-wife did not respond to Panda Global when they reached out to her. 

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Re: FGC player Infiltration accused of physically/verbally assaulting ex-wife
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2018, 09:11:25 AM »
a lot of the stuff the anonymous source posted on reddit, that got him in trouble in the first place, are either greatly exaggerated or completely false
who could have expected that to be the outcome?! :doge

banned til 2020 is a pretty wack outcome, but at least now he can take the time to learn a good game instead...like Tekken!

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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2018, 09:23:31 AM »
a lot of the stuff the anonymous source posted on reddit, that got him in trouble in the first place, are either greatly exaggerated or completely false
who could have expected that to be the outcome?! :doge

banned til 2020 is a pretty wack outcome, but at least now he can take the time to learn a good game instead...like Tekken!

People were saying that the now-false transcripts were legal, so who the hell knows.  I now would really like to know who created all that shit in an attempt to ruin his life.

I can understand the ban since he did plead guilty to domestic violence/assault/whatever the legal term is here and she did go to the hospital although it wasn't serious.  It's just that if it turns out that it was a minor spat and he was trying to get out of the house or get his stuff and she hurt her wrist from trying to stop him, then played it up as something worse...well.  I can't condone violence of any kind like that, no matter how minor it may be, but we also don't know how it happened- maybe he attacked her or maybe she attacked him and he tried to defend himself?

But note that she wouldn't let him in the house, despite him being legally cleared to enter the home to get his belongings, then tried to pursue legal action against him when he broke the locks.  It all comes across as a relationship that went and ended badly for both of them.

Naturally REEEEEEEE is full of people continuing to condemn the man despite the links being posted in the thread's OP.  :doge  His rep and chances of getting another sponsor could be ruined from this.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2018, 10:07:31 AM »
Ok. You’re still cool infil
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2018, 10:24:57 AM »
A ban for the rest of this year seems fair to me. The rest is just Capcom overreacting. The dude had one charge from last year that he already (literally) paid his dues for and the case is closed.

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2018, 11:01:47 AM »
Eh, till 2020 is fair, I feel. The 18 year is nearly over. 19 is about to start. It's essentially a "year" ban. A slap on the wrist, but minor.

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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2018, 11:42:21 AM »
I have a hard time believing that there is 100k black people in Korea with the same Korean name.  :hmph
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