Author Topic: Game of Thrones Season 8, we can finally stop waiting on GURM (Read 164019 times)

i think the problem is that they definitely did steps 1-7. But they missed out on steps 8 and 9 and went straight to 10. Dany didn't do something morally questionable prior to this so it falls flat for some. Again a casualty to the shorter episode length. I think if they showed the journey to King's Landing, with them stopping over at, I don't know, the Riverlands and Dany demanding piety while also claiming to be a liberator and ending up burning people who don't bend the knee - not soldiers, not lords, but civilians - it would be that "oh shit" moment that would have led to proper build up. Instead, they teleported around the map and the character development suffered.

Because right now a lot of people saying this is out of character are saying her past kills are justified. She needs that one morally questionable kill before the big bang. To me, that morally questionable kill is burning the Tarley's. But many of her defenders consider that justified between they wouldn't bend the knee during wartime.

VomKriege · « **Reply #1155 on:** May 17, 2019, 04:20:26 AM »

Remind me of how they ruined Sugar Cane Throne with Napo trying to re-enslave the population. WTF, totally inconsistent !

agrajag · « **Reply #1156 on:** May 17, 2019, 05:04:34 AM »

Quote from: Momo on May 17, 2019, 12:50:45 AM

PJSalt

saw this video too, it's good but I didn't want to post it and maki riotous go

Momo · « **Reply #1157 on:** May 17, 2019, 05:16:43 AM »

never be afraid to mine salt borne of salt borne of salt

Don Rumata · « **Reply #1158 on:** May 17, 2019, 07:26:50 AM »

Quote from: Momo on May 17, 2019, 12:50:45 AM

PJSalt

You'd have to pay me actual money for me to click on a video from a channel called "trope anatomy", tbqh.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1159 on:** May 17, 2019, 07:49:05 AM »

Never saw this but its awesome

TEEEPO · « **Reply #1160 on:** May 17, 2019, 10:04:46 AM »

youtube was a mistake

agrajag · « **Reply #1161 on:** May 17, 2019, 11:15:12 AM »

no one is saying she's not been nuts dumdum, people are saying that spontaneously burning down an entire city of innocent peasants is out of character.

Nintex · « **Reply #1162 on:** May 17, 2019, 01:51:36 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #1163 on:** May 17, 2019, 02:02:36 PM »

GUYS

Two

More

Days

Till the last episode of Game of Thrones! We will be free from GRRM!!!

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1164 on:** May 17, 2019, 02:09:00 PM »

*

*until the shitty spin offs

Himu · « **Reply #1165 on:** May 17, 2019, 02:16:50 PM »

Quote from: CatsCatsCats on May 17, 2019, 02:09:00 PM

*

*until the shitty spin offs

No, we will still be free from GRRM’s incomplete story.

agrajag · « **Reply #1166 on:** May 17, 2019, 02:21:44 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 02:02:36 PM

GUYS

Two

More

Days

Till the last episode of Game of Thrones! We will be free from D&D!!!

ftfy

and I have no wish to be free from GRRM until he finishes his homework.

Himu · « **Reply #1167 on:** May 17, 2019, 02:37:30 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on May 17, 2019, 02:21:44 PM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
GUYS

Two

More

Days

Till the last episode of Game of Thrones! We will be free from D&D!!!

ftfy

and I have no wish to be free from GRRM until he finishes his homework.

I’ll admit that I’m more hyped for Winds than ever!

Nola · « **Reply #1168 on:** May 17, 2019, 03:05:04 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on May 17, 2019, 11:15:12 AM

no one is saying she's not been nuts dumdum, people are saying that spontaneously burning down an entire city of innocent peasants is out of character.

I think the fact it has been a week and the entire fanbase is divided to the point of essays and YouTube videos about whether the character development presented to the audience adequately established the motive's for her decision says all that needs to be said about whether D & D actually developed the character effectively or stuck this landing with the story.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1169 on:** May 17, 2019, 03:14:59 PM »

More like a fraction of the fanbase can't get over the fact that these aren't the fucking books, and some corners have to be cut to make it within these seven seasons.

People literally talking about and debating if dragonfire can tear down stone walls..

Who fucking cares honestly. It's an enjoyable tv show, not the word of god.

agrajag · « **Reply #1170 on:** May 17, 2019, 03:17:11 PM »

Nola

Don Rumata · « **Reply #1171 on:** May 17, 2019, 03:17:25 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 02:02:36 PM

GUYS

Two

More

Days

Till the last episode of Game of Thrones! We will be free from GRRM!!!

Never been that hyped for GoT, to be honest, my peak was probably around season 3 or 4, but then i just followed it through inertia.
I'm curious to see how they resolve the Dany thing now, but not much beyond that.

Himu · « **Reply #1172 on:** May 17, 2019, 04:00:57 PM »

Quote

The only way an entire season of “Game of Thrones” appears overnight is if you ignore it. And for about eight years and seven seasons that’s what I did. I thought I was being principled. The show started in 2011, deep in President Obama’s first term, and a feudal fantasy seemed like a complacent retreat. Whatever progress was supposed to look like, it seemed unlikely to be happening in this show’s fictional country of Westeros. But I also didn’t want to repeat the work I had already tried to do with other bleak, saga television, like “The Walking Dead.” Other people were going to have to watch the show for me.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/arts/television/binge-watch-game-of-thrones.html

nachobro · « **Reply #1173 on:** May 17, 2019, 06:22:19 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 02:02:36 PM

GUYS

Two

More

Days

Till the last episode of Game of Thrones! We will be free from GRRM!!!

i'll never be free cause he's never gonna finish the goddamn books

Nintex · « **Reply #1174 on:** May 17, 2019, 07:07:38 PM »

The more you look at the lore, the more the following theory makes sense.

For the finale D&D asked George "Who wins the Game of Thrones?"
And he said: "Isn't it obvious Littlefinger is the protagonist. He set everything in motion, made every move and started nearly every war. From the murder of John Arryn, the Betrayal of Ned, the feud between the Lannisters and the Starks, the alliance between the Lannisters and the Tyrels(that finished off Stannis) to telling the Faith Militant that Cersei had commited a sin.". Varys said: "A man with no morals, he'd stand to be king of the ashes"

"Oops we killed him last season because it looked cool"

daemon · « **Reply #1175 on:** May 17, 2019, 07:14:26 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 01:41:16 AM

i think the problem is that they definitely did steps 1-7. But they missed out on steps 8 and 9 and went straight to 10. Dany didn't do something morally questionable prior to this so it falls flat for some. Again a casualty to the shorter episode length. I think if they showed the journey to King's Landing, with them stopping over at, I don't know, the Riverlands and Dany demanding piety while also claiming to be a liberator and ending up burning people who don't bend the knee - not soldiers, not lords, but civilians - it would be that "oh shit" moment that would have led to proper build up. Instead, they teleported around the map and the character development suffered.

Because right now a lot of people saying this is out of character are saying her past kills are justified. She needs that one morally questionable kill before the big bang. To me, that morally questionable kill is burning the Tarley's. But many of her defenders consider that justified between they wouldn't bend the knee during wartime.

Dany: I want to burn things for my throne
Tyrion:You probably shouldn't
Dany: Advisor said I shouldn't do it so I won't do it

*Advisor loses 3 alliances and a significant portion of her fleet*

Tyrion: When you hear the bells pls stop
Dany:

PS: she's not mad, she realized she can only go the usurper way, which means gaining the throne by bloodshed.

Himu · « **Reply #1176 on:** May 17, 2019, 07:16:19 PM »

Quote from: daemon on May 17, 2019, 07:14:26 PM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 01:41:16 AM
i think the problem is that they definitely did steps 1-7. But they missed out on steps 8 and 9 and went straight to 10. Dany didn't do something morally questionable prior to this so it falls flat for some. Again a casualty to the shorter episode length. I think if they showed the journey to King's Landing, with them stopping over at, I don't know, the Riverlands and Dany demanding piety while also claiming to be a liberator and ending up burning people who don't bend the knee - not soldiers, not lords, but civilians - it would be that "oh shit" moment that would have led to proper build up. Instead, they teleported around the map and the character development suffered.

Because right now a lot of people saying this is out of character are saying her past kills are justified. She needs that one morally questionable kill before the big bang. To me, that morally questionable kill is burning the Tarley's. But many of her defenders consider that justified between they wouldn't bend the knee during wartime.

Dany: I want to burn things for my throne
Tyrion:You probably shouldn't
Dany: Advisor said I shouldn't do it so I won't do it

*Advisor loses 3 alliances and a significant portion of her fleet*

Tyrion: When you hear the bells pls stop
Dany:

(Image removed from quote.)

PS: she's not mad, she realized she can only go the usurper way, which means gaining the throne by bloodshed.

I’m not saying I agree with them. Just that their criticism makes sense.

team filler · « **Reply #1177 on:** May 17, 2019, 07:19:50 PM »

daemon · « **Reply #1178 on:** May 17, 2019, 07:21:58 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 07:16:19 PM

I’m not saying I agree with them. Just that their criticism makes sense.

I think we've had plenty of morally questionable deaths by Dany. She comes to any place, gathers absolutely zero intel about it and wants to "do justice" by punishing innocent people. Right now Dany despises the commoners of KL for not understanding all her sacrifice for humankind. And on her last cry for help before doing something she would've rather avoided, Jon went all "m'lady" on her, meaning the isolation was complete.

Himu · « **Reply #1179 on:** May 17, 2019, 08:08:19 PM »

I agree. That doesn’t mean it also wasn’t rushed too.

agrajag · « **Reply #1180 on:** May 17, 2019, 08:44:29 PM »

look at this johnny come lately motherfucker

team filler · « **Reply #1181 on:** May 17, 2019, 09:24:05 PM »

daemon · « **Reply #1182 on:** May 17, 2019, 09:41:59 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 17, 2019, 08:08:19 PM

I agree. That doesn’t mean it also wasn’t rushed too.

Yeah, I feel we're missing one episode, because having the consequences of these actions and conclusion crammed in one episode... i don't quite see it. But i'll wait and see, then we can conclude if it was worth the effort.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1183 on:** May 17, 2019, 10:14:31 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #1184 on:** May 17, 2019, 10:18:24 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #1185 on:** May 18, 2019, 12:55:01 AM »

Mandark · « **Reply #1186 on:** May 18, 2019, 01:16:29 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on May 17, 2019, 11:15:12 AM

no one is saying she's not been nuts dumdum, people are saying that spontaneously burning down an entire city of innocent peasants is out of character.

She doesn't see them as innocents. She sees them as essentially having committed treason by going to King's Landing and accepting Cersei's protection.

Now there's a good chance D&D explain it in an interview with "oh yeah she was PMSing real bad that's how women get" but still.

team filler · « **Reply #1187 on:** May 18, 2019, 01:39:54 AM »

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #1188 on:** May 18, 2019, 03:34:22 AM »

Quote from: Philip Cardgage on May 18, 2019, 12:53:16 AM

Finally caught up. This is what happens when you raise a generation on Marvel movies.

People now expect characters with clear motivations and carefully plotted stories that adequately build to a satisfying conclusion?

agrajag · « **Reply #1189 on:** May 18, 2019, 07:59:16 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on May 18, 2019, 01:16:29 AM

Quote from: agrajag on May 17, 2019, 11:15:12 AM
no one is saying she's not been nuts dumdum, people are saying that spontaneously burning down an entire city of innocent peasants is out of character.

She doesn't see them as innocents. She sees them as essentially having committed treason by going to King's Landing and accepting Cersei's protection.

Now there's a good chance D&D explain it in an interview with "oh yeah she was PMSing real bad that's how women get" but still.

that's possible. Is that well communicated in the show? Not at all. In the episode she makes a crazy face and snaps. If that's the kind of "misdirection" they use to "subvert expectations" then that's cheap and not at all good writing.

agrajag · « **Reply #1190 on:** May 18, 2019, 08:00:17 AM »

btw, I haven't seen Endgame, hut GRRM showered its writers with praise, for what its worth.

Potato · « **Reply #1191 on:** May 18, 2019, 08:11:35 AM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on May 17, 2019, 10:14:31 PM

Nice. Could have gone with Fight Fire with Fire as an alternative version.

Raist · « **Reply #1192 on:** May 18, 2019, 08:52:38 AM »

Quote from: filler on May 18, 2019, 01:39:54 AM

I like how "his" rewriting is basically a collection of popular fan theories that have been around on reddit and whatnot for years

Jon should have been the one to kill the NK, while dying in the process. It was his mission for like, 2 seasons. Arya had fuck all to do with any of it, she basically pops up out of nowhere and killsteals.

That would also make Dany's snapping a lot more logical, since it'd be the second time she loses the man she loves - and this time arguably Cersei is responsible, since she told them she'd send help to fight the dead (which was Jon's preoccupation for a while). They never presented it as her giving that much of a fuck about Jorah.
Obviously, that would have required first a little bit more development to Jon and Dany's relationship than what was basically a couple of tinder dates. The whole tension about who gets the throne was just distinguished mentally-challenged as well.

agrajag · « **Reply #1193 on:** May 18, 2019, 08:57:39 AM »

fan rewrite of Episode 8 that basically has the same outcomes but where things actually make sense and are carry more emotional weight

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1194 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:08:30 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on May 18, 2019, 08:57:39 AM

fan rewrite of Episode 8 that basically has the same outcomes but where things actually make sense and are carry more emotional weight

Fuck off with this fanfic bullcrap man.

Just stop it.

Jesus christ

this is like the worst fanbase I'm actually almost ashamed to be a fan of the show myself with how cringe the fanbase is.

agrajag · « **Reply #1195 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:09:28 AM »

suck a diiiiicccccccc

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1196 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:10:31 AM »

Reading fanfic

agrajag · « **Reply #1197 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:11:27 AM »

the last few seasons are a fanfic you dumb bitch

agrajag · « **Reply #1198 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:15:25 AM »

MMaRsu the GoT super-stan

via Imgflip Meme Generator

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1199 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:34:29 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on May 18, 2019, 09:11:27 AM

the last few seasons are a fanfic you dumb bitch

Hahahahaha so salty af

I have nothjng against the writers, some of you seem to have some sort of personal beef for writing less than you expected.

Cry me a fucking river you little bitch.

Its a tv show not the word of god, oh noes the last season has a slight dip in quality now I'll go watch endless fanfic on Youtube and bitch about it ad nauseum :yuck :lol

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Author Topic: Game of Thrones Season 8, we can finally stop waiting on GURM (Read 164019 times)