River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[clothedmacuser]

The status quo in this country is to already treat black people as the boy who cried wolf. I don’t think the takeaway from this story should be we become more skeptical of racism.

The thing is, nobody is ever there to prop up the victims of racism. If the default state is "we need to wait for more info", meanwhile there is a person who was a victim of racism waiting around for justice that most of the time doesn't come, because that's America. Skepticism only works as a benefit to one party.

I always like the "But statistics . . !" argument.

"POC rarely lie about racial attacks."  Well if he says aliens are responsible for the colony of gerbils up his butt, racist or not, I'm not gonna think it's the full truth.

[Boredfrom]

The problem is... When you demand empathy/sympathy always over skepticism. It does become that in many people's eyes. It becomes a more binary choice. I personally think skepticism is a very healthy thing. But when it causes friction with people who have strong emotion you're going to feel some heat.

I thought people had this shit figured out decades ago...

[Nintex]

Me: Watches Super Mario Maker 2 Direct

YouTube AlGoRitHm: Jimquisition #458 MARIO SUCKS DONKEY DICK 

[clothedmacuser]

. If that's the way you look at black folks who inevitably by statistical chance will inevitably get it wrong every once in awhile, well then, are you really helping anything up there on your high horse?

God damn, it's not statistics to say an odd event is an odd event.  If a meteor lands near my house saying "Well, statistically that doesn't happen," doesn't make the event any less real.

[clothedmacuser]

So yeah, sorry. If I see something that- to me as a black person- looks racist-y, and your reaction directly to me is to immediately go "Now hold on, let's think about this," you're not really endearing yourself to me. Of course this doesn't mean I can't be wrong. But me being wrong subsequently doesn't preclude you from taking away the wrong lesson, which is that the lack of skepticism in these issues is not born from some bloodthirsty desire to see random blue collar folks ruined.

As a corollary, being skeptical of a suspect situation doesn't make white people "bloodthirsty," to see a black person persecuted.  And it's not endearing to me (an who gives a shit what you think about me) if you look at a suspect situation and declare "anyone who wants more information instead of instantly judging is racist."

[Boredfrom]

The status quo in this country is to already treat black people as the boy who cried wolf. I don’t think the takeaway from this story should be we become more skeptical of racism.

Are we going to pretend Jussie Smollett doesn’t exist?

Maybe the best way to destroy the “Boy who cry wolf” argument is not acting hyper defensive when an actual case of this occurs?

[Lonewulfeus]

Me: Watches Super Mario Maker 2 Direct

YouTube AlGoRitHm: Jimquisition #458 MARIO SUCKS DONKEY DICK 

I’d watch it, I want to see if a plumber with a mouthful of donkey spunk swallows 

[clothedmacuser]

Twitter was a mistake.

Not when most of the time people get it right

That guy is so nakedly a fascist.  But since he's on the correct side . . .

[NegativeCrepe]

Twitter was a mistake.

Not when most of the time people get it right

(Image removed from quote.)


That guy is so nakedly a fascist.  But since he's on the correct side . . .

where did you find that picture of marrec?

[Uncle]

The status quo in this country is to already treat black people as the boy who cried wolf. I don’t think the takeaway from this story should be we become more skeptical of racism.

Are we going to pretend Jussie Smollett doesn’t exist?

Maybe the best way to destroy the “Boy who cry wolf” argument is not acting hyper defensive when an actual case of this occurs?

Much like OJ he was proved completely innocent of all crimes

[Boredfrom]

I think it's a mistake to conflate the people who were reacting against the woman in this story but were otherwise maintaining their composure with internet trolls. Nobody in this conversation (or on Era) was advocating behavior akin to calling this woman a "racist whore" in her dms. Even going there in this conversation is kind of besides the point.

 

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-agree-that-l3-37s-plot-in-solo-is-horrifying-and-that-the-writers-missing-how-horrifying-it-is-was-batshit-crazy-spoilers.119068/#post-21110449

Humans are soulless (biological) machines too. Spoiler: souls don't actually exist.

My approach to sapience is pretty much duck testing: if it behaves as if it's sapient, treat it as sapient, rights included; otherwise you're probably engaging in slavery. Chinese room arguments are best left as thought experiments; they're not much more than human exceptionalism and arbitrary gatekeeping.

 

We are talking about Star Wars, bro...

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I think it's a mistake to conflate the people who were reacting against the woman in this story but were otherwise maintaining their composure with internet trolls. Nobody in this conversation (or on Era) was advocating behavior akin to calling this woman a "racist whore" in her dms. Even going there in this conversation is kind of besides the point.

 

If only there was some kind of record of the reactions that certain people on era had on first hearing about this via twitter.

Oh, thats right.
We fucking do.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chipotle-manager-staff-tells-these-customers-they-have-to-pay-first-lol-up-tweets-change-story.81602/

Fuck these people

why weren't the employees who did this also fired along with the manager?

How can you be so goddamn stupid. Like you see them recording you how do you think this is going to go from here? Fucking idiots.

Absolute trash.

Fucking horrible. should've canned every single one of those employees

Fucking horrible. should've canned every single one of those employees

To them, a whole race’s dignity is less valuable than a burrito.

only a stupid, incompetent goddamn manager would care more about losing the cost of a few burrito bowls over the cost of the negative PR from blatantly racially profiling a group of black men going viral.

The issue is simple

Even if they did do that they only did it to black people and not white people

And they confused those black people for others

Shitheads

these morons are smart enough to realize social media is nearly dead, nobody carries phones anymore with video recording capabilities, and that surely her refusal of service will be forgotten within the hour. /s

hopefully they get fired immediately

just on Page 1

these are obviously distinguishable at first glance from internet trolls, due to the way they maintained their composure.

[cosmicblizzard]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-3#post-21110510

Furthering this fancy is the idea that plausible deniability concerning racism is magically a wholly separate from the discussion of how this specific Chipotle incident fits into the narrative concerning "The Mob Mentality™." No one went after her because they perceived her cooking skills to be subpar or something else equally frivolous. Absolutely no one cared about this woman until they perceived her to be perpetuating a significant issue that actually exists and has harmed millions over centuries. That was the source of the reaction. "This woman appears to be racist." And what else is the reflexive reaction to racism supposed to be? Storied neutrality? Fence-sitting? That's for people who don't get affected by these issues.

I'd have less of a problem with this logic if it was applied more broadly, but I know for a fact these same people were not giving Jews that perceived antisemitism from Omar or the Woman's March people the same level of respect and were right there attacking another marginalized group.  These people have blinders on and only care about their own myopic worldview.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-agree-that-l3-37s-plot-in-solo-is-horrifying-and-that-the-writers-missing-how-horrifying-it-is-was-batshit-crazy-spoilers.119068/#post-21110449

If the story were true, what difference does it make that people mistook her for white? Everyone engages in anti-Black behavior.

Two, she should sue the customers for slander(?).

Third, CNN will call out the reactionary mob who's lives are more likely than not encumbered by racism.... and on the other hand are on year 4 of giving a billion dollar platform to an openly racist administration and their cronies. You can't have it both ways fucksticks, you're part of the problem.

 

Sue the guys that cannot afford Chipotle’s food.

[stufte]

I can say with confidence that what happened to the Chipotle manager was FAR worse than an individual occurrence of racial prejudice. Fuck these idiot for not being able to see that.

[Boredfrom]

I think Powered Egg is also part of the problem...

[Boredfrom]

And that's unfortunate. But what you're asking people to do here is not just police words, but tone. The situation as originally presented was maddening. It's understandable that people would use harsh language and not be polite about their distaste. It's not understandable to use this situation as an excuse to attack this woman on any other grounds (her gender, her race, etc). That's the only distinction I could really argue from my position. And in my personal life it's what I live by. If you mistreat me, or someone who looks like me, based on our race? Oh, I'm going to talk all sorts of dog shit about you.

Is it fucked up that this woman had vitriol aimed at her when she ultimately didn't deserve it? Absolutely. But that's not the fault of the people who reacted the way they did because this situation looked like countless other racist scenarios black people have seen play out and actually weren't pranks. It's the fault of the fuckboys who knowingly took advantage of that.

 

Also, is not the whole point of a moderator to “tone police”?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

1) Keeping in mind that this ultimately was a prank, I think it's fair to point out that 9 times out of 10 there isn't more to the story when it comes to these situations. So calling for that tends to read as dismissive at best, and worst a clear signal to search for the thing that will allow people to craft a "See!? He was no angel!" defense.

2) I'm not the all-seeing-mod who knows the story behind every ban. But banning for skepticism tends to only happen when you're skeptical in a way that dismisses concern for actual racism/sexism/homophobia/what-have-you that actually occurs.

1) It was just pranks bro!

2) We don't ban for skepticism, we add some other bullshit to it too!

[clothedmacuser]

People's reactions in any given video concerning racism are always based on a combination of video evidence and previous experience and/or knowledge based on the specific situation. It's not the ability to give a reasoning for one's gut reaction that is in contention. It's the fact that this situation happened to fall in naysayers' favor is- unwittingly or otherwise- being used to handwave black people's instinctive reactions to our lived experiences as nothing more than a vicious mob mentality.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/post-21112254

My actions and assumptions don't need to be based on evidence if I have a gut feeling.

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

that and defending PDP's thinly veined racist ass "war" against T-series

Oooohhhhh, and so close to derailing in the first post, but someone posted something relevant there instead.

Better luck next time!

[Pepinappe]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-3#post-21111354

And that's unfortunate. But what you're asking people to do here is not just police words, but tone.

So a regular Tuesday for Resetera mods then.

[VomKriege]

but Era is much better than other site, amirite?

Yes, because at least Era wants to see the bad people get punished.

[Shuri]

it seems that I'm late,but Wait, they named a star wars robot L3-37? 

 

[Boredfrom]

The issue that I have with your position is the same that I've had since the beginning. You're asking for me to police tone, and I can't do that. (I'm speaking personally here). Sustained harassment? Yes. Harassment campaigns? Yes. Gendered/racist attacks? Of course. Continuing to harass her even after the truth comes out. I'll personally do the dragging. But you're asking me to fault people for acting in a way that would have been seen as rational by most people if this weren't a ruse.

I'm capable of doing multiple things at once. I can feel genuine sympathy for this woman while also understanding the people who were responding to this situation as it was deceptively presented to them. I can do both of those things while condemning troll-like behavior because I always do. And I can do all of that while placing ALL the blame where I truly feel it belongs: on the fuckboys who knowingly manipulated this situation in the first place.

What I won't do, though, is add extra layers of skepticism to situations like this when most of the time its been demonstrated that that skepticism is only used as a cover to dismiss actual acts of racism and bigotry. I saw those boys as victims when I initially watched the video because, guess what, they usually are.

Is totally rational to harass someone for perceived racist behavior and not bothering to apologize if they we’re framed.

If your immediate and/or continued response to black people who had an understandable emotional reaction to an incident that appeared racist is to finger-wag at them about neutrality and objectivity, then you're really only giving cover to the "real" grifters who would indeed take this incident as a feather in their cap.

Why do you want to kill white babies so much, Nephente?

[benjipwns]

One more thing Elon Musk is ruining: The night sky.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-more-thing-elon-musk-is-ruining-the-night-sky.118971/

Oh my god shut the fuck up you whiny bitch

If these mega corporations aren't careful, pretty soon the general public won't be able to travel to space without potentially hitting one of them by accident. Not a fan of this at all.

[Transhuman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chipotle-manager-staff-tells-these-customers-they-have-to-pay-first-lol-up-tweets-change-story.81602/page-9#post-15097659

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chipotle-manager-staff-tells-these-customers-they-have-to-pay-first-lol-up-tweets-change-story.81602/page-9#post-15097417

Gone but not forgotten

[Boredfrom]

I think a bigger takeaway should be the fact that people are so desperate for food that they're willing to risk committing a crime to do so, and that the employee was so afraid of being reprimanded that she took the initiative to refuse service to them, yet it's being portrayed that either the black people or the employee were in the wrong instead of questioning why it even has to come to this in the first place

 

[Transhuman]

"Desperate for food"

[Boredfrom]

If your first reaction to these types of situations is to be skeptical, I do not want to be around you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21119764

Me neither.

[Raist]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-3#post-21110510

Furthering this fancy is the idea that plausible deniability concerning racism is magically a wholly separate from the discussion of how this specific Chipotle incident fits into the narrative concerning "The Mob Mentality™." No one went after her because they perceived her cooking skills to be subpar or something else equally frivolous. Absolutely no one cared about this woman until they perceived her to be perpetuating a significant issue that actually exists and has harmed millions over centuries. That was the source of the reaction. "This woman appears to be racist." And what else is the reflexive reaction to racism supposed to be? Storied neutrality? Fence-sitting? That's for people who don't get affected by these issues.

I'd have less of a problem with this logic if it was applied more broadly, but I know for a fact these same people were not giving Jews that perceived antisemitism from Omar or the Woman's March people the same level of respect and were right there attacking another marginalized group.  These people have blinders on and only care about their own myopic worldview.

Nepenthe sounds grumpy. Xir probably ran out of white babies lately.

[Raist]

One more thing Elon Musk is ruining: The night sky.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-more-thing-elon-musk-is-ruining-the-night-sky.118971/

Oh my god shut the fuck up you whiny bitch

If these mega corporations aren't careful, pretty soon the general public won't be able to travel to space without potentially hitting one of them by accident. Not a fan of this at all.

I'm sure a few thousand satellites roaming around an area of half a billion square kilometers is what will be the end of space travel for the general populace

[benjipwns]

If your first reaction to these types of situations is to be skeptical, I do not want to be around you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21119764

always 👏 trust 👏 media internet 👏 first 👏 impressions 👏

[Uncle]

1) Keeping in mind that this ultimately was a prank, I think it's fair to point out that 9 times out of 10 there isn't more to the story when it comes to these situations. So calling for that tends to read as dismissive at best, and worst a clear signal to search for the thing that will allow people to craft a "See!? He was no angel!" defense.

2) I'm not the all-seeing-mod who knows the story behind every ban. But banning for skepticism tends to only happen when you're skeptical in a way that dismisses concern for actual racism/sexism/homophobia/what-have-you that actually occurs.

1) It was just pranks bro!

2) We don't ban for skepticism, we add some other bullshit to it too!

example of era acceptable skepticism:

"while extremely unlikely, it is possible that these men were actually guilty of stealing from this chipotle, but I must stress this is EXTREMELY unlikely (but still possible (but seriously unlikely)).  And even if they did, this woman shouldn't have wielded her power over a black man in this way.  And also this would be an extremely unfortunate turn of events, because alt-right assholes would use this example for years to come and would be hedging a narrative/rhetorical loss for the good guys (which is why even though possible I don't think it's likely plz don't ban)."

[clothedmacuser]

I think a bigger takeaway should be the fact that people are so desperate for food that they're willing to risk committing a crime to do so, and that the employee was so afraid of being reprimanded that she took the initiative to refuse service to them, yet it's being portrayed that either the black people or the employee were in the wrong instead of questioning why it even has to come to this in the first place

 

In the end this is an issue of worker unions.   They should just unionize and false latinx on black racism will be a thing of the past

[benjipwns]

example of era acceptable skepticism:

"while extremely unlikely, it is possible that these men were actually guilty of stealing from this chipotle, but I must stress this is EXTREMELY unlikely (but still possible (but seriously unlikely)).  And even if they did, this woman shouldn't have wielded her power over a black man in this way.  And also this would be an extremely unfortunate turn of events, because alt-right assholes would use this example for years to come and would be hedging a narrative/rhetorical loss for the good guys (which is why even though possible I don't think it's likely plz don't ban)."

always 👏 believe 👏 women 👏

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-agree-that-l3-37s-plot-in-solo-is-horrifying-and-that-the-writers-missing-how-horrifying-it-is-was-batshit-crazy-spoilers.119068/#post-21110449

Humans are soulless (biological) machines too. Spoiler: souls don't actually exist.

My approach to sapience is pretty much duck testing: if it behaves as if it's sapient, treat it as sapient, rights included; otherwise you're probably engaging in slavery. Chinese room arguments are best left as thought experiments; they're not much more than human exceptionalism and arbitrary gatekeeping.

 

We are talking about Star Wars, bro...

Glad I didn’t watch Solo, that sounds dumb as fuck.

[Joe Molotov]

example of era acceptable skepticism:

"while extremely unlikely, it is possible that these men were actually guilty of stealing from this chipotle, but I must stress this is EXTREMELY unlikely (but still possible (but seriously unlikely)).  And even if they did, this woman shouldn't have wielded her power over a black man in this way.  And also this would be an extremely unfortunate turn of events, because alt-right assholes would use this example for years to come and would be hedging a narrative/rhetorical loss for the good guys (which is why even though possible I don't think it's likely plz don't ban)."

always 👏 believe 👏 women 👏

Mod, please feel free to delete this post if necessary.

[Raist]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21121520

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21122152


 

[Transhuman]

Keep in mind resetera bans people for "advocating piracy".

[Transhuman]

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/post-21123101

You can blame right-wing cretins and even the left's insistence that debate always magically exposes the truth, for the "demonization of critical thinking" by allowing bad-faith actors to use plausible deniability as a cover to gaslight minority issues, social justice topics, and outright science. Compound this on top of the fact that America refuses to seriously address systemic grievances- and thus the collective populace indoctrinated in its ideals deserves no benefit of the doubt- and eventually the unheard are going to shake and maneuver within their means.

So yeah, sorry. If I see something that- to me as a black person- looks racist-y, and your reaction directly to me is to immediately go "Now hold on, let's think about this," you're not really endearing yourself to me. Of course this doesn't mean I can't be wrong. But me being wrong subsequently doesn't preclude you from taking away the wrong lesson, which is that the lack of skepticism in these issues is not born from some bloodthirsty desire to see random blue collar folks ruined. If that's the way you look at black folks who inevitably by statistical chance will get it wrong every once in awhile, well then, are you really helping anything up there on your high horse?

You're just projecting everything that happened into the framework of your own biases again.

There's some very simple shit that was wrong in the original thread. The 6th post in the thread is you asking why the entire staff wasn't fired instead of just the manager.Then there's the exchange where someone mentioned there clearly seemed to be history between the customers and the employee based on how they were talking (100% right btw), to which you responded "The investigation revealed that it wasn't them". Purely false information, which you thought you read in this article http://www.startribune.com/chipotle-fires-st-paul-restaurant-manager-retrains-staff-after-viral-video/500733081/ even though it says nothing of the sort.

If the moderators are the ones picking up their pitchforks first and spreading bad information then you can't expect much more from the average poster.

[VomKriege]

I can feel a lot of histories of history originating in that Chipotle thread.

[VomKriege]

ERA has found a new prank target.

Twitch Streamer/YouTuber DarksydePhil Makes Racist/Transphobic Jokes While Livestreaming Nioh 2 Alpha

We have to end him.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitch-streamer-youtuber-darksydephil-makes-racist-transphobic-jokes-while-livestreaming-nioh-2-alpha.119086/

Oh and it's "desperate for food" guy

[benjipwns]

You do realise that people other than Era members read these boards, right? Resetera gets a lot of traffic from people interested in games even if they're not posters or agree with the political leanings of the site. There are even saddos that relish in pointing out what the latest thing we're "outraged" at is.

oof, big yikes if true

[VomKriege]

Exactly this. Identifying him as a streamer and youtuber is just legitimizing him further

Don't defile those most noble of titles

[benjipwns]

Absolutely grotesque. People need to clapback on these alt-right fools, stifle them at every turn, dry up their sources of income and deplatform with continuous unrelenting rigor until these nazi scum are panhandling on the streets.

it's dsp

[benjipwns]

I'd never even heard of him until now. Sifting through this thread makes me wonder why he's still around.

In one of his videos he pretended to be a Nazi killing Jews.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chipotle-manager-staff-tells-these-customers-they-have-to-pay-first-lol-up-tweets-change-story.81602/page-9#post-15097659

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chipotle-manager-staff-tells-these-customers-they-have-to-pay-first-lol-up-tweets-change-story.81602/page-9#post-15097417

Gone but not forgotten

Banned for "Concern trolling, derailing thread", so they were directly saying that questioning the outrage is a derail

[VomKriege]

It means that the people who largely pay for him have a big source of somewhat dispensible cash that he manipulates out of them by constantly pretending to be dire straights and begging for money.

Wow ERA you can't let go of identity politics ever, can you ?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitch-streamer-youtuber-darksydephil-makes-racist-transphobic-jokes-while-livestreaming-nioh-2-alpha.119086/page-3#post-21119842

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-fda-just-approved-zolgensma-the-world-most-expensive-drug-and-it-cost-2-125-million.119074/#post-21111584

I lived in socialism. It sucked ass. How about you?

Uh-oh 

Edit: People immediately backed down "well I'm saying socialism but I meant strong social democracy, not Marxism-Leninism". You're no fun ERA

Venezuela is dictatorship predicated on oil and gas exports. Its situation has literally zero to do with socialism

That's like saying that North Korea is a democratic republic because it's in the name. It's specious reasoning.

If it talks like a Marxist-Leninist, invokes Marxism-Leninism in every speech and document, and seize Kulak property like a Marxist-Leninist than it has obviously nothing to do with Socialism, you shitlord.

Own that shit a little bit you ERA petits bourgeois.

[benjipwns]

I've been falsely banned twice for "downplaying hate speech", despite having done no such thing.

USER BANNED (THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE): MISREPRESENTING MODERATOR ACTIONINGS, HISTORY OF HISTORY, DOWNPLAYING HATE SPEECH AND INSTITUTIONAL RACISM, TRANSPHOBIA

[iPaul]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21121520

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21122152


 

Commies should get the rope.

[VomKriege]

Even China thinks Marvel fanboys' box office wars are fucking stupid.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/china-has-ended-cinema-screening-of-avengers-endgame.119106/#post-21124712

[Don Rumata]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21121520

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-how-an-internet-mob-falsely-painted-a-chipotle-employee-as-racist.119047/page-5#post-21122152


 

Commies should get the rope.

Ah yes, the forum posting, Disney loving, Overwatch playing "communists". 

[Snoopycat_]

Oh Jeez. Ree can't even watch a fun video about Nazis without getting superior as fuck.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-just-call-me-a-nazi.119107/

[benjipwns]

51 replies in...

This thread has been derailed with cross-forum drama. It seems unlikely to recover, so it has been locked.

like ten had mentioned GAF

[Snoopycat_]

"a friend of mine who still occasionally looks at the old place linked me a post of someone."

Friend.

Ok Hermann.

[VomKriege]

In reaction to Avengers : Endgame distribution being perhaps shut prematurely in China...

Guess I need to go see it 2 more times.

That's the real meaning of Socialism, unlike Chavismo or Leninism 

[tummyfat]

Royalan was one of most obnoxious YAS QWEEN Hilary supporters on GAF and now he’s wearing a Kamari Harris shirt in his avatar, he fucking loves supporting unelectable train wrecks