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« Reply #38580 on: August 22, 2019, 10:20:53 AM »
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1164306204102995969

Huh, this is pretty interesting.
I wasn't thinking "false flag" when I saw the OP about ion fury, but I was wondering why that poster was gunning for it so obviously hard that they were trawling through fucking months old discord logs looking for dirt, and got kicked out of the OT for trying to drum up a controversy.

I didn't realise they were the same poster who made a BFD out of the crash team watermelon skin too.

This is so depressing.

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« Reply #38581 on: August 22, 2019, 10:22:17 AM »
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1164306204102995969

Huh, this is pretty interesting.
I wasn't thinking "false flag" when I saw the OP about ion fury, but I was wondering why that poster was gunning for it so obviously hard that they were trawling through fucking months old discord logs looking for dirt, and got kicked out of the OT for trying to drum up a controversy.

I didn't realise they were the same poster who made a BFD out of the crash team watermelon skin too.

This is so depressing.

Looks like some gator just played themselves. They did all the hard work (scanning through months of discord chat) while RE got to have all the fun (being mad on the internet).
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« Reply #38582 on: August 22, 2019, 10:29:33 AM »
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1164306204102995969

Huh, this is pretty interesting.
I wasn't thinking "false flag" when I saw the OP about ion fury, but I was wondering why that poster was gunning for it so obviously hard that they were trawling through fucking months old discord logs looking for dirt, and got kicked out of the OT for trying to drum up a controversy.

I didn't realise they were the same poster who made a BFD out of the crash team watermelon skin too.

This is so depressing.

Yeah.   :(

I really would like to know how many of the people getting OUTRAGED :punch over all this stuff even buy these games.
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« Reply #38583 on: August 22, 2019, 10:32:41 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-cant-take-hearing-about-climate-change-anymore.136498/page-2#post-23829692

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« Reply #38584 on: August 22, 2019, 10:34:55 AM »
Yeah.   :(

I really would like to know how many of the people getting OUTRAGED :punch over all this stuff even buy these games.
You already know the answer to that. Resetti response to the devs apologizing was a mix of "good for them, too bad i was never going to get it" and "i still don't trust them so i won't be buying it"

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« Reply #38585 on: August 22, 2019, 10:35:20 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-cant-take-hearing-about-climate-change-anymore.136498/page-2#post-23829692

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"I strongly suggest you get off Era for a while. This place is the most scared, hyperbolic and negative community on just about everything I've ever seen...that I can't stop going to and posting on."   :doge
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« Reply #38586 on: August 22, 2019, 10:36:46 AM »
Going by statistics isn't proof of how hard something is.  Reading a few pages of a book at night is easy and statistics show the average person goes 20+ years without reading a single book.   Exercising and cutting calories is not difficult.  Losing weight is mechanistically simple, and unless you have other issues going on, should be quite easy to achieve over time like book reading.  Most of the world doesn't have an obesity problem - the Spanish and Japanese are not biological outliers and are not doing anything difficult.  Fat people that whine and care so much about movie/tv roles not reflecting their own bodies, but not enough to actually lose weight,  is the most first-world crybaby shit ever.   Time to be an adult.
Simple =/= easy and hard=/=complicated.
If your understanding of losing weight is limited to the idea of CICO, yes, losing weight is simple thermodynamics, but that's a very myopic view of the problem (which extends way past Fat Acceptance psychos).
Metabolism adapts and changes through the loss, making it harder and harder to keep up, and sometimes making drastic weight loss damaging (insofar that you gain back more weight than you lost).
Managing habits, macros, hunger and "other issues going on" IS part of the package, and it's simply disingenuous to think that it's simply a matter of CICO.

The fact that losing large amounts of weight and keeping it off isn't easy, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, or that people should normalize being obese, on the contrary, that fact that it can be hard to achieve, means there should be as little resistance to it as possible.

It is a matter of CICO.

The rest is mental.
Metabolism adaptation is mental?

This is as stupid as telling someone with depression to "snap out of it" because it's all in their heads.

Few people's metabolism is that stark. CICO is how you lose weight. Blaming it on metabolism is an excuse.

Many obese people will regularly use metabolism as an excuse and say,"that person must have good metabolism" for why they lost weight. It's a way to project insecurity. After a few weeks the body adjusts to eating less food.

Willpower is how you lose weight, metabolism or not. At that point you might as well use "bad genetics" for an excuse for not losing weight.
Metabolism adaptation after a severe calorie deficit is not a matter of opinion or willpower.
Just because some fatties don't understand the concept of metabolism, or use it as an excuse to keep eating like shit, doesn't make it less real.

It's the reason why a controlled, steady weight loss is better than a drastic one (aside from specific cases), as the former will allow your metabolism to adapt to your new calorie intake, without dropping too much, so that once the weight loss is over, you can revert back into a maintenance diet more easily, instead of having a fucked up metabolism that runs on 500kcal per day.
This doesn't mean that "she's thin cuz she has a good metabolism" is real or a good excuse, but handling metabolism through the dieting process is probably the most important factor a good and healthy weight loss.

If CICO was all there was to it, being a nutritionist would be one hell of a job.

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« Reply #38587 on: August 22, 2019, 10:37:12 AM »
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1164306204102995969

Huh, this is pretty interesting.
I wasn't thinking "false flag" when I saw the OP about ion fury, but I was wondering why that poster was gunning for it so obviously hard that they were trawling through fucking months old discord logs looking for dirt, and got kicked out of the OT for trying to drum up a controversy.

I didn't realise they were the same poster who made a BFD out of the crash team watermelon skin too.

This is so depressing.

Looks like some gator just played themselves. They did all the hard work (scanning through months of discord chat) while RE got to have all the fun (being mad on the internet).

That is the thing that blows my mind, the people that supposedly care about the game and the devs see nothing wrong with shit on them for “bending the knee” and act like stupid idiots and patting themselves in the back. Some saying this is a a embarrassment to ERA when they could careless and moved on to another stuff to bitch about. Nothing was accomplished, everyone is more miserable.

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« Reply #38588 on: August 22, 2019, 10:39:18 AM »
Yeah.   :(

I really would like to know how many of the people getting OUTRAGED :punch over all this stuff even buy these games.
You already know the answer to that. Resetti response to the devs apologizing was a mix of "good for them, too bad i was never going to get it" and "i still don't trust them so i won't be buying it"

The reaction from real fans that bought the game has been not much better...

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« Reply #38589 on: August 22, 2019, 10:42:38 AM »
Going by statistics isn't proof of how hard something is.  Reading a few pages of a book at night is easy and statistics show the average person goes 20+ years without reading a single book.   Exercising and cutting calories is not difficult.  Losing weight is mechanistically simple, and unless you have other issues going on, should be quite easy to achieve over time like book reading.  Most of the world doesn't have an obesity problem - the Spanish and Japanese are not biological outliers and are not doing anything difficult.  Fat people that whine and care so much about movie/tv roles not reflecting their own bodies, but not enough to actually lose weight,  is the most first-world crybaby shit ever.   Time to be an adult.
Simple =/= easy and hard=/=complicated.
If your understanding of losing weight is limited to the idea of CICO, yes, losing weight is simple thermodynamics, but that's a very myopic view of the problem (which extends way past Fat Acceptance psychos).
Metabolism adapts and changes through the loss, making it harder and harder to keep up, and sometimes making drastic weight loss damaging (insofar that you gain back more weight than you lost).
Managing habits, macros, hunger and "other issues going on" IS part of the package, and it's simply disingenuous to think that it's simply a matter of CICO.

The fact that losing large amounts of weight and keeping it off isn't easy, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, or that people should normalize being obese, on the contrary, that fact that it can be hard to achieve, means there should be as little resistance to it as possible.

It is a matter of CICO.

The rest is mental.
Metabolism adaptation is mental?

This is as stupid as telling someone with depression to "snap out of it" because it's all in their heads.

Few people's metabolism is that stark. CICO is how you lose weight. Blaming it on metabolism is an excuse.

Many obese people will regularly use metabolism as an excuse and say,"that person must have good metabolism" for why they lost weight. It's a way to project insecurity. After a few weeks the body adjusts to eating less food.

Willpower is how you lose weight, metabolism or not. At that point you might as well use "bad genetics" for an excuse for not losing weight.
Metabolism adaptation after a severe calorie deficit is not a matter of opinion or willpower.
Just because some fatties don't understand the concept of metabolism, or use it as an excuse to keep eating like shit, doesn't make it less real.

It's the reason why a controlled, steady weight loss is better than a drastic one (aside from specific cases), as the former will allow your metabolism to adapt to your new calorie intake, without dropping too much, so that once the weight loss is over, you can revert back into a maintenance diet more easily, instead of having a fucked up metabolism that runs on 500kcal per day.
This doesn't mean that "she's thin cuz she has a good metabolism" is real or a good excuse, but handling metabolism through the dieting process is probably the most important factor a good and healthy weight loss.

If CICO was all there was to it, being a nutritionist would be one hell of a job.

Metabolism is just an excuse.

CICO really is all there is. Every diet is basically CICO repackaged.

If you eat less than what you burn every day you will lose weight, metabolism or not. Yes, metabolism is a factor. But not as much a factor as caloric intake and energy expenditure. If you eat like shit and don't exercise you'll gain weight. If you eat well but still eat too much while not exercising enough, you'll gain. If you limit your food intake and up your exercise for insurance you will lose weight.

Simple. Bringing up metabolism, saying,"weight loss is harder for others because of metabolism" is just excuse making. End of.
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« Reply #38590 on: August 22, 2019, 10:43:21 AM »
The reaction from real fans that bought the game has been not much better...
Very true, but they did buy the game at least. Resetti goes hard in the internet war but always seems to have a reason to not buy a game

cue someone posting about all the people saying they won't buy egs games lol

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« Reply #38591 on: August 22, 2019, 10:44:20 AM »
The devs were dumb to bend the knee and I hate it when they give in to a dozen mouth-breathers.
However that does not stop me from playing, enjoying and even promoting or recommending the game to others.
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« Reply #38593 on: August 22, 2019, 10:52:36 AM »
Women being held to standards that men aren't is inherently a feminist issue

What does that have to do with promoting health at every size, that being 300 lb is beautiful, the idea that a woman's worth has more to do with how she looks than her ideas?

 
B) Women in media are generally held to stricter standards regarding physical attractiveness than men - true
 

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« Reply #38594 on: August 22, 2019, 10:54:41 AM »
Metabolism is just an excuse.

CICO really is all there is. Every diet is basically CICO repackaged.

If you eat less than what you burn every day you will lose weight, metabolism or not. Yes, metabolism is a factor. But not as much a factor as caloric intake and energy expenditure. If you eat like shit and don't exercise you'll gain weight. If you eat well but still eat too much while not exercising enough, you'll gain. If you limit your food intake and up your exercise for insurance you will lose weight.

Simple. Bringing up metabolism, saying,"weight loss is harder for others because of metabolism" is just excuse making. End of.
If i didn't know better i'd think you were trolling me, jesus christ.
CICO and metabolism are two different, complementary concepts.

I swear CICO people think they've discovered water being wet every time, when really we all understand how CICO works, but there are layers of efficiency and EFFICACY beyond that point, that you wouldn't even consider for whatever reason.
I mean if CICO was all there was to it, you wouldn't even mention excercise, just lay on the couch and eat 200kcal per day, done... not very healthy though, is it?

Somehow this is me making the argument that fat people are fat because they got unlucky with their metabolism(?), which has nothing to do with my argument.
There are smart(er) ways and dumb(er) ways to tackle a diet, thinking that CICO is all there is to it, is fucking stupid. End of.

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« Reply #38596 on: August 22, 2019, 10:58:54 AM »


The inhumanity!  :brazilcry

Get manipulated by a fucking degenerate brehs  :heh

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« Reply #38597 on: August 22, 2019, 10:59:48 AM »
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« Reply #38598 on: August 22, 2019, 10:59:48 AM »
Going by statistics isn't proof of how hard something is.  Reading a few pages of a book at night is easy and statistics show the average person goes 20+ years without reading a single book.   Exercising and cutting calories is not difficult.  Losing weight is mechanistically simple, and unless you have other issues going on, should be quite easy to achieve over time like book reading.  Most of the world doesn't have an obesity problem - the Spanish and Japanese are not biological outliers and are not doing anything difficult.  Fat people that whine and care so much about movie/tv roles not reflecting their own bodies, but not enough to actually lose weight,  is the most first-world crybaby shit ever.   Time to be an adult.
Simple =/= easy and hard=/=complicated.
If your understanding of losing weight is limited to the idea of CICO, yes, losing weight is simple thermodynamics, but that's a very myopic view of the problem (which extends way past Fat Acceptance psychos).
Metabolism adapts and changes through the loss, making it harder and harder to keep up, and sometimes making drastic weight loss damaging (insofar that you gain back more weight than you lost).
Managing habits, macros, hunger and "other issues going on" IS part of the package, and it's simply disingenuous to think that it's simply a matter of CICO.

The fact that losing large amounts of weight and keeping it off isn't easy, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, or that people should normalize being obese, on the contrary, that fact that it can be hard to achieve, means there should be as little resistance to it as possible.

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The problem with this rationale is you can just reductively apply it to anything until everything can be justified as being non-easy.   Why ought we not just claim reading a book isn't easy, too - after all, you can understand why people rarely do it:  many people are too depressed, anxious, incurious, genetically predisposed to laziness, have an attention-deficit, etc.  When are things easy and when are things hard?  If you look at the individual, you can easily find rationalizations for why it isn't easy.  At some point you have to pick the starting point up by its bootstraps if you want to make sense of a world that considers that there exists 'easy' things and 'hard' things.  I pick it up at what is biologically feasible for the average person to do with what the average person considers minimal effort.  Reading a book is easy.  Cutting 500 calories per day and not engorging yourself on food is mechanistically easy. 

For a depressed person or a person who is not mentally resilient (read: mental resilience is not conscious force of will, it's a predisposition for the lack of ability to handle psychological stress), then losing weight could be hard.    But is it hard to lose weight?  No.  You can separate the individual's sense of psychological difficulty with it to the biological and mechanistic simplicity that human beings have to using up excess energy.  The danger in relying on the individual, is that you rob him of the ability to discover how easy losing weight can be - which is often the case with people who are able to lose weight, but never thought they could.

The metabolism thing is a non-starter, IMO.  Only in very extreme cases does metabolism affect the ability to lose weight.

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« Reply #38599 on: August 22, 2019, 10:59:51 AM »
Metabolism is just an excuse.

CICO really is all there is. Every diet is basically CICO repackaged.

If you eat less than what you burn every day you will lose weight, metabolism or not. Yes, metabolism is a factor. But not as much a factor as caloric intake and energy expenditure. If you eat like shit and don't exercise you'll gain weight. If you eat well but still eat too much while not exercising enough, you'll gain. If you limit your food intake and up your exercise for insurance you will lose weight.

Simple. Bringing up metabolism, saying,"weight loss is harder for others because of metabolism" is just excuse making. End of.
If i didn't know better i'd think you were trolling me, jesus christ.
CICO and metabolism are two different, complementary concepts.

I swear CICO people think they've discovered water being wet every time, when really we all understand how CICO works, but there are layers of efficiency and EFFICACY beyond that point, that you wouldn't even consider for whatever reason.

Somehow this is me making the argument that fat people are fat because they got unlucky with their metabolism(?), which has nothing to do with my argument.
There are smart(er) ways and dumb(er) ways to tackle a diet, thinking that CICO is all there is to it, is fucking stupid. End of.

Fat people regularly say things like,"it's your genetics" "you have a fast metabolism, you're so lucky" and you're bringing up stuff like metabolism. What else is it going to read like?

And yes, CICO is all there is to it. CICO is literally the process in which weight is lost. The rest is in the details. It means going for longer walks, doing HIIT, buying smaller plates, eating smaler portions. Even getting bypass surgery is still CICO in the end because you're eating less aka consuming less calories.

People regularly accuse of thinner people having faster metabolism and using that an excuse for inaction which you are currently propagating.

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-biggest-reason-you-gain-weight-as-you-age-has-nothing-to-do-with-your-metabolism
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« Reply #38600 on: August 22, 2019, 11:01:23 AM »
Will Era apologize for being led astray by a 4chan activist? Not a good look! :awesome
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« Reply #38601 on: August 22, 2019, 11:02:14 AM »
That is the thing that blows my mind, the people that supposedly care about the game and the devs see nothing wrong with shit on them for “bending the knee” and act like stupid idiots and patting themselves in the back. Some saying this is a a embarrassment to ERA when they could careless and moved on to another stuff to bitch about. Nothing was accomplished, everyone is more miserable.

that's the whole point

that's what trolling is, making everyone more miserable, because you know what to say/do to make them behave predictably

the way you avoid that is not playing the game which is a three way street

a) chan person doesn't dig the stuff up just to get a rise out of people
b) if they see the shit anyway, era doesn't blow it out of proportion and #outrage #cancel
c) if they get #cancelled, the affected company doesn't make a big show of apologizing and patching everything
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« Reply #38602 on: August 22, 2019, 11:02:16 AM »
cant get fat if you HIIT jerk off 12 hours a day  :betty

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« Reply #38603 on: August 22, 2019, 11:05:48 AM »
Urineanalist?
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« Reply #38604 on: August 22, 2019, 11:09:27 AM »
Looks like some gator just played themselves. They did all the hard work (scanning through months of discord chat) while RE got to have all the fun (being mad on the internet).

actually takes no time at all, in discord you can just search for key problematic phrases and it highlights all of them for you dating back to the beginning of time

SJW was said in this channel on June 3, April 20, Feb 4, Feb 2...

I also wouldn't say RE had fun, other than in the sense that this is what they DO all the time for whatever schadenfreude/circle of depression reason they do it, the fun for the channer was seeing them lose their minds
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« Reply #38605 on: August 22, 2019, 11:10:49 AM »
That is the thing that blows my mind, the people that supposedly care about the game and the devs see nothing wrong with shit on them for “bending the knee” and act like stupid idiots and patting themselves in the back. Some saying this is a a embarrassment to ERA when they could careless and moved on to another stuff to bitch about. Nothing was accomplished, everyone is more miserable.

that's the whole point

that's what trolling is, making everyone more miserable, because you know what to say/do to make them behave predictably

For example: HEY CINDI  :cody


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« Reply #38606 on: August 22, 2019, 11:12:27 AM »

Fat people regularly say things like,"it's your genetics" "you have a fast metabolism, you're so lucky" and you're bringing up stuff like metabolism. What else is it going to read like?
I have no idea why you keep bringing up what a bunch of copers say, when it has nothing to do with what I am arguing.
Saying CICO's all there is to it, is like asking for good business advice and being told "lol, spend less than you make" it may sound like a witty soundbite, but it's pretty fucking dumb way to simplify the problem.

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The problem with this rationale is you can just reductively apply it to anything until everything can be justified as being non-easy.   Why ought we not just claim reading a book isn't easy, too - after all, you can understand why people rarely do it:  many people are too depressed, anxious, incurious, genetically predisposed to laziness, have an attention-deficit, etc.  When are things easy and when are things hard?  If you look at the individual, you can easily find rationalizations for why it isn't easy.  At some point you have to pick the starting point up by its bootstraps if you want to make sense of a world that considers that there exists 'easy' things and 'hard' things.  I pick it up at what is biologically feasible for the average person to do with what the average person considers minimal effort.  Reading a book is easy.  Cutting 500 calories per day and not engorging yourself on food is mechanistically easy.

For a depressed person or a person who is not mentally resilient (read: mental resilience is not conscious force of will, it's a predisposition for the lack of ability to handle psychological stress), then losing weight could be hard.    But is it hard to lose weight?  No.  You can separate the individual's sense of psychological difficulty with it to the biological and mechanistic simplicity that human beings have to using up excess energy.  The danger in relying on the individual, is that you rob him of the ability to discover how easy losing weight can be - which is often the case with people who are able to lose weight, but never thought they could.

The metabolism thing is a non-starter, IMO.  Only in very extreme cases does metabolism affect the ability to lose weight.
Easy and hard are subjective and relative terms, it's why i mentioned statistics in the first place.
People at large are capable of losing weight, but have a hard time keeping the weight off.
This tells you what? This tells you that beyond CICO, people don't know how to handle the problem in the long term: Having a more active life style, don't use food as an anti depressant, learn to portion control, beware of hidden calories (soft drinks, alcohol etc) and so on and so forth.
It's true that obesity is mostly a problem in a person's mind, but that is why the way to combat it isn't just to go "CICO, lol it's easy!".

Insisting that something is "easy" is really a pointless endeavor, because what's easy for one person, it may not be for the next.

As for the metabolism thing: It's about keeping the weight off, not about losing it.
If you're fat, you very likely have an extremely slow metabolism in the first place, since you ingurgitate so many excess calories on the daily.
Again i'm not arguing about two people having two different metabolisms, i'm saying the same person has a changing metabolism THROUGH the diet.

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« Reply #38607 on: August 22, 2019, 11:17:34 AM »
Goddamn enough with the obesity shit. Can we go back to talking about Spiderman?

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« Reply #38608 on: August 22, 2019, 11:18:29 AM »
4chan troll to Era
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« Reply #38609 on: August 22, 2019, 11:19:42 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-yesterday-i-learned-i-may-well-be-on-the-autism-spectrum-unsure-how-to-feel.136465/post-23827062
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oh fucking no. no this is such a disgusting, horrible, and straight up wrong take. god i'm angry.

autism is not a disease. you don't "catch" autism. you don't acquire autism through lifestyle decisions. autism will not kill you. autism will not make you sick. perhaps the comorbid associations with autism may impact your health, but an autism diagnosis will not. you do not "recover" from autism. autism is NOT a disease. it is a developmental disorder that impacts every single autistic person differently.

your hot fucking take is harmful. it hurts autistic people. it is the reason autistic people are killed, raped, and abused. you don't come into a thread where someone has received an autism diagnosis, and spread misinformed anti-autism bullshit. get out of here. sorry if this isn't written very well, i'm pretty angry.

please do some reading before spreading your opinions on the internet.
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please...read...the sources... all those quotes you added in are tongue in cheek comments about NEUROTYPICALS. i.e., people WITHOUT autism. god idk whether to laugh or cry.

autistic people ARE different. in the same way that you and i are different (thank christ lmao) and have different wants and needs. i am not autistic. however, i worked in the disability field for several years, and so i am extremely passionate about supporting people with disabilities, especially autistic people.

i am angry because you are wrong. you are wrong in the same way that if you claimed the sky is pink you would be wrong. in the medical context of autism, you are wrong. in the social context of autism, you are wrong.

and i am angry because i spent a good portion of my career trying to advocate for autistic people who did not have the resources to fight against people with opinions like you.

yes, autism is a disorder and not a disease (and even the term 'disorder' is heavily contested, if you would take the time to google it). please learn the difference. please take the time to learn more because you are ignorant. this is my last comment also because the time it would take to help you overcome your bigotry would take more energy than i am willing to give you.
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« Reply #38611 on: August 22, 2019, 11:20:53 AM »

I have no idea why you keep bringing up what a bunch of copers say, when it has nothing to do with what I am arguing.
Saying CICO's all there is to it, is like asking for good business advice and being told "lol, spend less than you make" it may sound like a witty soundbite, but it's pretty fucking dumb way to simplify the problem.


LOL.

I gave actual ways to solve the problem in the very post you quoted! American plates have increased 3 inches in the past 50 years. In Europe they still eat on 10 inch plates, which was standard in America in the 1950's and 60's. Go to Amazon and buy 9.5 inch plates. Boom. You are instantly eating LESS CALORIES just buy eating off a smaller plate. Then learn about portions. What's a healthy portion of rice? What's a healthy portion of veggies? What about meat, if you eat that at all? Bam. Suddenly you're realizing you overate. Once you factor the calories from fast food, being more informed in your choices, AND upping your exercise? You will lose weight.

CICO.

Easy as shit logistically.

You must have willpower to change.

Bringing up metabolism is fatlogic dog shit excuse making.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38612 on: August 22, 2019, 11:22:53 AM »
for Cindi enjoy these good eats gurl!

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« Reply #38613 on: August 22, 2019, 11:23:34 AM »
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it is the reason autistic people are killed, raped, and abused.
Why in the world of Era is everyone always being raped and abused  :derp
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« Reply #38614 on: August 22, 2019, 11:24:16 AM »
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it is the reason autistic people are killed, raped, and abused.
Why in the world of Era is everyone always being raped and abused  :derp

They wish. Bloody incel fucks

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38615 on: August 22, 2019, 11:25:08 AM »
for Cindi enjoy these good eats gurl!

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Food addiction.  :-\

This is sad. I feel for her but get your YouTube ad money, boo.

I can't laugh at people killing themselves.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38616 on: August 22, 2019, 11:25:44 AM »
There is a very simple way to lose weight;  work out a lot and don't eat very much.   Do mostly cardio but do some resistance training as well. 

It's difficult as hell though;  eating less is hard on it's own, working out makes you  hungrier.     Will power.

Healthy?  That's another question lol

It's not just or necessarily eating less (unless you're downing like five cheeseburgers every day), but eating healthier.  Cut the shitty junk food and drink out and watch as pounds magically melt away.  But yeah, portion control is needed if you're going off the charts.

I think these people's problem is that they're thinking being "thick" is the same thing as being obese.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38617 on: August 22, 2019, 11:25:59 AM »
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Holy fuck at the people saying Autism is a disease and needs curing... I am astounded that that line of thinking can still happen.


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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38618 on: August 22, 2019, 11:27:07 AM »
also I will not be held accountable for the alt right fish eaters you'll be receiving due to the algorithms.

Remember guys drink bleach it cures autism, sure the FDA tells you it doesn't typical big pharma throwing money around.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38619 on: August 22, 2019, 11:27:46 AM »
Angry MCU fans vs. angry Sony Ponies is the true crossover event of the summer.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38620 on: August 22, 2019, 11:28:59 AM »
Bringing up metabolism is fatlogic dog shit excuse making.

He brought up that every human's metabolism changes when they diet, particularly if you do an extreme diet. 

That's all he was talking about; you keep ranting as if he's talking about the "I have a bad metabolism" fat person excuse.. he's not.

He's saying CICO is reductive because of things like how your body adjusts to eating less calories (lowers resting metabolism.)   

He said metabolism makes it harder for certain people to lose weight so sounded like excuse making to me.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38621 on: August 22, 2019, 11:30:54 AM »
Didn't we basically already know that the CTR controversy was started by a troll? I could have sworn y'all talked about that.

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« Reply #38622 on: August 22, 2019, 11:32:14 AM »
also I will not be held accountable for the alt right fish eaters you'll be receiving due to the algorithms.

Remember guys drink bleach it cures autism, sure the FDA tells you it doesn't typical big pharma throwing money around.
There is a cure for autism, just kill everyone else.

Also, alt right fish eaters?
I thought they were all trying to lift and replaced all S J W produced food with brainpower9000, McDonalds and filtered rainwater.
I'm sort of disappointed the alt-right trend was never to try and look like Hermann Goering and I'm personally partly to blame for that.  :fbm
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« Reply #38623 on: August 22, 2019, 11:33:28 AM »
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Damn :( Reading through Carla's story about Kleiman, Canadian police protected Kleiman in one instance and the legal system couldn't even protect Carla:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vancouver-british-columbias-anime-revolution-allows-two-convicted-serial-harasser-sex-offender-to-attend-summer-2019-event-victims-sharing-stories.136497/


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Eventually, she said he asked for her social media and e-mail passwords and Carla complied, but she knew it this wasn't what she wanted from a relationship. She tried to break things off with Kleiman in early 2014.

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This prompted what Carla described as a cycle of harassment. Carla stated that Kleiman began calling her home phone number at all hours until she relented and began communicating with him again. She learned that Kleiman had discreetly recorded their Skype conversations, including illicit images and videos. She said he then expressed interest in flying to see Carla at her home. Carla became scared that if she did not relent to his requests, he would share her photos with her strict parents. She also felt that in the event of a sexual assault, she would not be able to turn to her country's authorities for assistance.

“I wanted to be with someone special, I wanted [my first sexual experience] to be something that was positive. I kinda knew that I might have to give that up. So at the end of the visit I gave up...what I had left of myself.” Carla described putting on a "facade" for Kleiman with the hopes that she would be able to escape the relationship once she moved to Toronto for college in 2014. She began changing all of her passwords in order to lock Kleiman out of her accounts and cease contact with him.

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But Carla said Kleiman found a way into her accounts once she entered Canada. She reported it to her local precinct but hit a dead end. Eventually, she said he showed up at her place of work at the local shopping center. Carla relented by giving Kleiman the address where she was living with her father.

 :doge

I mean... what?
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38624 on: August 22, 2019, 11:33:37 AM »
for Cindi enjoy these good eats gurl!

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What the fuck is in that bowl? Vampire puke?  :holeup

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« Reply #38625 on: August 22, 2019, 11:36:49 AM »
There is a very simple way to lose weight;  work out a lot and don't eat very much.   Do mostly cardio but do some resistance training as well. 

It's difficult as hell though;  eating less is hard on it's own, working out makes you  hungrier.     Will power.

Healthy?  That's another question lol

It's not just or necessarily eating less (unless you're downing like five cheeseburgers every day), but eating healthier.  Cut the shitty junk food and drink out and watch as pounds magically melt away.  But yeah, portion control is needed if you're going off the charts.

I think these people's problem is that they're thinking being "thick" is the same thing as being obese.

Watch out for this.

I've seen people eat chicken sandwiches over hamburgers because it's "more healthy", ignoring the fact that the chicken is fried.

There's lots of "just eat clean" stuff out there, but zero changes to portions. A lot of people think just because you're eating healthy means you can eat as much as you want, when their goal is to lose weight, obese people have a poor litmus test of what "no longer hungry" even is. My dad, the person with all the obesity related diseases, thinks he can eat as much as he wants as long as it's healthy. This is also where people think they're eating "healthy" and end up drowning their salad in dressing, oil, bread crumbs, and cheese.

So yeah, it is about eating less for most people. Once you realize a table spoon of oil is like 200 calories you'll stop using it in salads reallll quick.

Moderation is key. There's nothing wrong with a burger now and then. There's nothing wrong with having a pizza. Maybe just have one slice.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38626 on: August 22, 2019, 11:37:59 AM »
per the metababolism denial thing, although it averages out in the longterm, a man and a woman on an identical diet is going to see the man losing weight twice as fast as the woman in the first few months, because, yes, metabolism.
That's a scientific fact that you are free to research and verify for yourself.


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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38627 on: August 22, 2019, 11:38:28 AM »
for Cindi enjoy these good eats gurl!

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What the fuck is in that bowl? Vampire puke?  :holeup

I think it's like pure butter with franks hot sauce and blood of children, I love the top comment
 
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38628 on: August 22, 2019, 11:39:42 AM »
Didn't we basically already know that the CTR controversy was started by a troll? I could have sworn y'all talked about that.

It sure seemed like it, but there was still some plausible deniability between resetera usual ressetterrraing to their Special Interest Groups.
The fact the same poster also put out a hit on Ion Fury makes that plausible deniability a lot more suspect.

e: and "downplaying other users concerns" as a bannable offence would certainly suggest its a lot fucking easier to start a witch hunt when rational people can't chime in with "fucking seriously? Bro. Come the fuck on"
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« Reply #38629 on: August 22, 2019, 11:41:37 AM »
per the metababolism denial thing, although it averages out in the longterm, a man and a woman on an identical diet is going to see the man losing weight twice as fast as the woman in the first few months, because, yes, metabolism.
That's a scientific fact that you are free to research and verify for yourself.

I'm not denying metabolism, but it's probably the last thing to worry about when it comes to weight loss.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38630 on: August 22, 2019, 11:42:22 AM »
Didn't we basically already know that the CTR controversy was started by a troll? I could have sworn y'all talked about that.

It sure seemed like it, but there was still some plausible deniability between resetera usual ressetterrraing to their Special Interest Groups.
The fact the same poster also put out a hit on Ion Fury makes that plausible deniability a lot more suspect.
Troll contract service  :brain

Want to destroy your competitor?
Get a competing product of the market?
Replace a top billed actor?
Ruin someone's shot at political office?

My DM's are open.
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« Reply #38631 on: August 22, 2019, 11:46:35 AM »
From our seniors

https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/weight-maintenance-is-so-much-harder-than-it-used-to-be.37321/#post-879090

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All my life I've been slender, never had to worry about what I ate, gained under 25 pounds each pregnancy (5 kids) which I quickly shed, and had no weight issues at all, just fluctuated between 130 and 135. I'm 5' 8 1/2 so that was a good weight for me. Don't hate me for all that, because it didn't last....menopause hit OMG!!!  :mad:

I was close to 15 pounds heavier before it really hit home that this wasn't just my normal fluctuation. Another 15 pounds before I realized that focusing on losing the weight wasn't going to cut it, I first of all needed to just stop the gain!!! Another 10 pounds before I ended up tipping the scale at 175 pounds before I managed to even stop gaining! At least it was evenly distributed so I didn't look quite as heavy as I was.

Tried every current diet out there to lose the weight, to no avail. Lose a bit, gain it back. Finally, after doing much research about what was happening to my body, I finally realized that I had to evolve a "diet" <way of eating> that I could maintain for the rest of my life, because I wasn't ever again going to be able to be eat the way I used to, and I needed to figure out a way to eat that I could actually sustain for the rest of my life, once the weight was gone, and that would facilitate a slow and steady loss rather than the dramatic plummet I was originally going for.

With much chagrin because it was the very LAST thing I wanted to do and the thing I had avoided up till this point, I started counting calories. Ugh. I found an app (My fitness Pal) that made that chore less onerous. This was back in 2014. For the next year I slowly lost the weight, averaging 2 - 3 pounds a month, going from that original 175 pounds to a much more comfortable 145 pounds....still 10 pounds more than I'd averaged for so many years, but my body just kinda leveled out at that point, the weight loss stopped, my joints stopped hurting, I could move easily and quickly again, and I realized that unless I wanted to cut calories more drastically (and I didn't) this was now maintenance for me.

I've maintained that general weight since. I fluctuate some (143 - 147) but it stays in that general range. Or rather, it WAS staying in that range. I've noticed this last 6 months that it's gotten harder to maintain it. I'm eating the same, maintaining the same level of physical activity, but I'm struggling more and more with staying under 147. It's very frustrating.

My question to all is how have you maintained an acceptable weight? Are you walking, going to the gym, lifting, doing Pilates, what? I have to change something because what has worked for me this last 4 years is no longer as effective.

What's worked for you?

You going to go over there and shame them Cindi?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38632 on: August 22, 2019, 11:47:08 AM »
per the metababolism denial thing, although it averages out in the longterm, a man and a woman on an identical diet is going to see the man losing weight twice as fast as the woman in the first few months, because, yes, metabolism.
That's a scientific fact that you are free to research and verify for yourself.

Right, and this is exactly the point.  Women have slower metabolisms than men because of less lean mass and a higher natural ideal bodyfat percentage threshhold.  Do women blame their metabolism on their inability to lose weight?   

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38633 on: August 22, 2019, 11:49:07 AM »
per the metababolism denial thing, although it averages out in the longterm, a man and a woman on an identical diet is going to see the man losing weight twice as fast as the woman in the first few months, because, yes, metabolism.
That's a scientific fact that you are free to research and verify for yourself.

Right, and this is exactly the point.  Women have slower metabolisms than men because of less lean mass and a higher natural ideal bodyfat percentage threshhold.  Do women blame their metabolism on their inability to lose weight?

I mean, all these fat earther posts cindi is reposting seem to be from women, soooo.....

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38634 on: August 22, 2019, 11:50:27 AM »
Didn't we basically already know that the CTR controversy was started by a troll? I could have sworn y'all talked about that.

It sure seemed like it, but there was still some plausible deniability between resetera usual ressetterrraing to their Special Interest Groups.
The fact the same poster also put out a hit on Ion Fury makes that plausible deniability a lot more suspect.

e: and "downplaying other users concerns" as a bannable offence would certainly suggest its a lot fucking easier to start a witch hunt when rational people can't chime in with "fucking seriously? Bro. Come the fuck on"

The whole "downplaying other users concerns" ban reason is really just a defacto trump card the moderators use because it has no practical definition and can be applied to anyone who has any disagreement with anyone which, on a message board, is everyone.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38635 on: August 22, 2019, 11:50:58 AM »
per the metababolism denial thing, although it averages out in the longterm, a man and a woman on an identical diet is going to see the man losing weight twice as fast as the woman in the first few months, because, yes, metabolism.
That's a scientific fact that you are free to research and verify for yourself.

Right, and this is exactly the point.  Women have slower metabolisms than men because of less lean mass and a higher natural ideal bodyfat percentage threshhold.  Do women blame their metabolism on their inability to lose weight?

I mean, all these fat earther posts cindi is reposting seem to be from women, soooo.....

Women tend to emotionalize their experiences and struggles more than men.  News at 10.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38636 on: August 22, 2019, 11:51:22 AM »
I'm 6'4" and 58kg so it's hard for me to even understand how people become fat. To lose weight all you have to do is nothing at all.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #38637 on: August 22, 2019, 11:52:02 AM »

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« Reply #38638 on: August 22, 2019, 11:55:52 AM »
I'm 6'4" and 58kg so it's hard for me to even understand how people become fat. To lose weight all you have to do is nothing at all.

I'm in the same boat. I was a big ole' fatty when I was younger but then shot up to 6'4" and while I'm certainly not skin and bones, I have no idea how I'd get proper fat. It would be so expensive.

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« Reply #38639 on: August 22, 2019, 11:57:24 AM »
for Cindi enjoy these good eats gurl!

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That  lady is on the verge of tears.

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