Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-left-has-made-it-impossible-to-say-the-n-word-any-longer-dennis-prager.169990/

 

prager eh

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[railGUN]

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228080552244236288

 

noob question I don't twitter much how do you embed tweets on the bire?

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-south-park-trending-what-did-i-miss.169968/post-29101926

Then why do they have the polar opposite view on climate change to the one pushed in Manbearpig?

If it's "impossible to overstate" the influence, how come the majority of them are on the other side of the issue?
On one issue?

Let's look at millennial voting numbers and general involvement in politics for the last decade as another data point. Let's look at online discussion norms and how South Park episodes shaped criticism towards other issues and promoted "both sides are the same" in earnest.

Oh, I didn't realize they had sources to back up their statements.

the reply

2008 had the highest youth vote turnout ever. They also, along with Gen X and Gen Z, outvoted the boomers for the first time in 2018.

Why did this happen if South Park got into their heads and told them it was pointless?

[Lonewulfeus]

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228080552244236288

 

noob question I don't twitter much how do you embed tweets on the bire?

I think just remove everything after the numbers in the url.  I only know cause I spent a few minutes trying to figure it out the first time I linked a tweet and then never bothered again.  Also the tweet won’t show up in preview even if the link is correct so you gotta roll the dice.

[clothedmacuser]

The problem isn't South Park.

The problem is people identifying with a cartoon that consists of a kid feeding another kid pieces of his parents in Chilli and smearing shit on walls as a business venture.

Stupid people can't grasp that you can enjoy the show while not modeling your own life after it.

The problem isn't the actual product.  A smart and cultured person like me can handle our potato chips and milkshakes.  It's just that I care so much about the other people that I think it should be banned for them.  For people like me I will enjoy them at a restaurant on occasion and those most affected by such vices will simply have to become healthier.

[clothedmacuser]

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228080552244236288

 

noob question I don't twitter much how do you embed tweets on the bire?

I think just remove everything after the numbers in the url.  I only know cause I spent a few minutes trying to figure it out the first time I linked a tweet and then never bothered again.  Also the tweet won’t show up in preview even if the link is correct so you gotta roll the dice.

And yes, Excel jumped into the thread!

[railGUN]

I think just remove everything after the numbers in the url.  I only know cause I spent a few minutes trying to figure it out the first time I linked a tweet and then never bothered again.  Also the tweet won’t show up in preview even if the link is correct so you gotta roll the dice.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Guys, I just discovered this hot new show called South Park that’s making the kidz all do a nihilism.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228080552244236288

 

noob question I don't twitter much how do you embed tweets on the bire?

Oh no, she's writing for the she-hulk show 

[clothedmacuser]

http://You should watch It's Always Sunny to see what actual left leaning television under the guise of offensive humor looks like. Not the centrist trash that is south park.

But you see, it's making fun of the idea of the dumb people






Whore!  Sinner!  Jezebel!  Fornicator!

[benjipwns]

Let's look at online discussion norms and how South Park episodes shaped criticism towards other issues and promoted "both sides are the same" in earnest.

I hate this one so much because that's never been South Park's position on anything, even in the Turd vs. Giant Douche episode it goes out of its way to argue against this and make an entirely separate critique about the system.

South Park, when it gets philosophical, is almost always a critique of the self and its position is very anti-nihilist. The Wal-Mart episode, Gnomes, Butt Out, etc. Shit's blatant. It's funny how hard they miss it.

Coincidentally, Always Sunny is pretty much the same viewpoint.

[benjipwns]

I don't even know what Always Sunny being "left-leaning" is even supposed to mean, especially if South Park is "centrist" in comparison.

[benjipwns]

i dont think south park is anything but just matt and trey wanting to be contrarians for the sake of it because they have no real life experience

[Joe Molotov]

I don't even know what Always Sunny being "left-leaning" is even supposed to mean, especially if South Park is "centrist" in comparison.

Left-leaning = I like it
Centrist = I don’t like it

[benjipwns]

South Park been center-right since the inception. They very, very seldom “lean left” outside of gay rights (which is fucking generous) and the PSP episode.

They typically show both sides and land in the middle or they straight up lean right. I remember in the early 2010’s seeing people make this claim and get shot down.

Kind of hard to call South Park “left leaning” in 2020 after the last 5 seasons or so.

South Park has pretty inconsistent politics that lean reactionary and nilhistic. Not really a left wing show at all.

It’s extremely fortunate it’s influence isn’t “impossible to overstate” honestly.

I often ponder how much South Park contributed to my past apathy towards politics and the like. (Of course, it'd hardly be the only factor: I practically lived under a political rock until 2016.)

South Park is the Fight Club of television in that it raised a generation of people completely unable to process a target of satire, creating heroes out of all the worst possible characters, and endlessly quoting their lines unironically while completely missing the point.

South Park broke a generation of television viewer and have left them emotionally broken, cynical and calloused to people around them, but it isn’t the only thing that did everyone in. 9/11 shifted everything.

South Park is part of the rich tapestry of chan-style faux-nihilism that formed at the time and continues to plague political rhetoric to this day.

[Joe Molotov]

South Park is 9/11 times 1000.

[benjipwns]

Left-leaning = I like it
Centrist = I don’t like it

"leaning"

I only watch revolutionary hard-left content like King of the Hill

[Cauliflower Of Love]

What do you expect from a crowd that defines actions by left/right instead of actions?

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican after all.

[HaughtyFrank]

Action for Children's Television founder Peggy Charren claimed that the show's use of language and racial slurs represents the depravity of Western civilization, and that it is "dangerous to the democracy."[

The Christian Family Network prepared an educational guide on how to "protect our youth from vile trash like South Park," and claims that their efforts to "restore morality, and protect life for the individual, family, and community" would be impeded if children watched the series

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_controversies

 

[benjipwns]

KOTH didn't just critique big box stores from their comfy elite perches, they blew up the Mega-Lo-Mart via direct action

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228019211311562752

[Tripon]

What a crazy series of takes.

Cornette kept proclaiming AEW would be out of business by the end of February. He said NXT would kill them in the ratings in the long run. Instead, except when Vince threw Rollins and Lynch and Drew and AJ and even won once, the gap has this year grown wider, in particular with the under 49 crowd.

They double them with teens and nearly double them in most under 50 demos. AEW doesn't appeal well at all over 50, which I learned very quickly, and so be it, in this environment where the key is 18-49 demo for advertisers and rights, that's oky.

I kept writing, using market values for television rights, that not only would they not be out of business, but their next contract would make them profitable in two years.

Cornette had three years to go crazy about how stupid they are, how none of those guys can draw, they don't know how to work, Tony is a money mark (a man with a business plan that looked smart from day one, and connections with TNT was a money mark because Cornette has no concept of modern business reality) because of the three-year deal in place where they would have mixed financial success.

Then the worst thing happened. The show was so successful that TNT ripped up the first contract 32 months early to sign a far more lucrative deal. Cornette's three years of time to say how stupid they were ended early.

Whether you like the product or not, as a business, AEW was a success wit the fans, and with the network they were in. They are making money a year ahead of projections.

Cornette was so sure this couldn't work even when it was clear it was working, because he had lost touch with the modern fan base, that he short circuited.

What people here fail to realize is that it doesn't matter what I like, or he likes, or anyone else likes when you look at it as a business.

As a fan, you can like whatever you want. he crossed over and wasn't talking as a fan but talking as someone looking at a business, and despite the facts of television values staring him in the face, he kept doubling down and digging the hole deeper.

His insane hatred for Kenny Omega ruined him. It was a sad thing.

To frame this as you agree with Cornette is fine about your taste in wrestling, that's subjective.

But I was never writing about that. I was writing about the viability of this as a business and how well it is appealing to a younger fan base.

They did 111,000 buys with no television for their first PPV. They've sold out six major arenas in less than 40 minutes. The head of MGM Grand told ESPN that the ticket demand for their show was like a Mayweather or McGregor fight. Chicago in September had a ticket demand equal to that of GSP vs. Jake Shields according to ticket industry because of 62,500 different individuals in the queque trying to get tickets that sold out in 10 minutes.

Yes, some weeks are so-so, and last week they drew their first crowd under 3,000. It's the wrestling business--but overall they averaged more than 6,200 per event in 2019 and averaged 100,000 PPV buys per show in 2019.

There's stuff I like and stuff I've absolutely hated in AEW. People who listen know that, but I'm talking business here and would be a fool to say they've hit mostly home runs, had a few strikeouts, and have changed the face and pay structure of the industry in a good way.

At the end of the day, they are people far smarter than Cornette on modern wrestling, far more up to speed and living in the present. If they were Cornette, this thig would have died just like ROH struggling to draw 400 with Cornette and then doing triple that when the Young Bucks got hot and he was long gone.

Instead of addressing facts because they don't line up with his preconceived notion, he'll start calling me gay or senile or whatever. It's not a fight or a feud, it's a guy who short circuited because he was so certain about something he was so wrong on, that all the evidence was there telling him he was wrong on, and he dug his heels in more and more each time.

I was so hoping when the TV deal was signed that he would at least admit that they succeeded and the industry had a real alternative. Instead, it got him so mad that this was the result.

Honestly, I feel sorry for those of you who can't see this.

http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=161213;p=2#000046

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Dave Meltzer

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[benjipwns]

User Banned (2 weeks): hostility, antagonizing other users

This is some galaxy brain shit right here, the fact is a fascist should not be allowed in the Democratic party. I don't know what else to tell you, if you're disheartened by that then I suggest some introspection about what values you want from candidates running for office on the democratic ticket.

Buying your way into an election and lying about your history is not democratic support.

I'm so confused.

And tired.

[benjipwns]

I do so enjoy the attempts to silence the minority support in this thread attacking Bloomberg by waving a statistic in our faces. Very appreciative. Makes me feel very welcome here.

Black History Month Ladies and Gentlemen.

[benjipwns]

If someone can't even be bothered to check a ballot, they probably won't be doing any of that other stuff. Let's be honest.

Because the people saying that nonsense have probably never had to worry about being denied the right to vote in their lives, have never had to worry about their vote being suppressed, and probably live comfortably enough and have enough privilege to insulate themselves from electoral politics and GOP victories. Or they might just be dim.

Oh I missed this attack on me. My bad. So, we're talking privilege, right? Ok, cool.

I am bi, disabled, neurodivergent, mentally ill, and poor.

So maybe you, and others who have chosen to take this same tact in the recent past, should chill on assuming other people's privileges just so you can leverage petty personal attacks over them saying things you disagree with.

And I'm a gay teacher in a red state with no employment protections. If I get a good ol' boy boss who doesn't like the flick of my wrist, my ass is grass.

Voting is sacred, perhaps the most sacred right. Direct action is fine and good and noble; voting is fundamental and is the goal of much of that direct action.

at the last line

[ShutUp]

South Park still sending ERA into a fit of rage never gets old. Funny how so many who suddenly hate the show were it's most adamant defenders right up until the introduction of the PC Principal character. Matt and Trey pointing the mirror at ERA types made their blood boil. 

[clothedmacuser]

I'm not distorting anything. You don't like him, you shouldn't, he's gross and awful and unfit for the office, that's all true. But our feelings on him should not be the arbiter of who gets to be the Democratic parties nominee. The voters should decide that, that's their right. Otherwise what's the point of all this?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/democratic-presidential-primary-february-ot-it-cant-be-worse-than-iowa-right-discussion-guidelines-in-op.167107/post-29093269

Summit Time!

[clothedmacuser]

Summit Cancelled.

[benjipwns]

I'm not distorting anything. You don't like him, you shouldn't, he's gross and awful and unfit for the office, that's all true. But our feelings on him should not be the arbiter of who gets to be the Democratic parties nominee. The voters should decide that, that's their right. Otherwise what's the point of all this?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/democratic-presidential-primary-february-ot-it-cant-be-worse-than-iowa-right-discussion-guidelines-in-op.167107/post-29093269

But the voters won't decide, the delegates will. That's their hangup with the Electoral College isn't it? And how Prime Ministers are chosen in other countries right?

[TVC15]

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Summit Cancelled.

That coronavirus, man. Taking out billion dollar movies and summits

[thisismyusername]

South Park is 9/11 times 1000.

My god that's...

[tuna_love]

team America is just further proof of Trey and Matt's right of centre right leaning love of the military complex

[benjipwns]

Plus they made that sitcom making Bush look lovable!

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-south-park-trending-what-did-i-miss.169968/post-29105751
thank you Sayuz

[zepblackstar]

she is writing for the She-Hulk show on Disney+

This won't end well.

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228019211311562752

[benjipwns]

woman banned:

User Banned (6 Months): Consistent pattern of trolling with intent to disrupt healthy discourse; repeated violation of intercommunity guidelines.

Shame on Bernie for hiring staffers who have even gotten close to appearing to suggest that people be doxxed

[railGUN]

Matt Reeves shows off new Batsuit for The Batman - 12 pages in a day

Black History Month 2020 [The BHM ERA Challenge] - 2 pages in 10 days

 

[benjipwns]

What did Boss get banned for?

User Banned (2 weeks): hostility, antagonizing other users

This is some galaxy brain shit right here, the fact is a fascist should not be allowed in the Democratic party. I don't know what else to tell you, if you're disheartened by that then I suggest some introspection about what values you want from candidates running for office on the democratic ticket.

Buying your way into an election and lying about your history is not democratic support.

[benjipwns]

So, anyone that knows about polls and stuff, can you explain why Biden and Warren are flopping like they are?

I’d been following the polls and iirc, Biden and Warren were 1, and 3 respectively. What happened? Is this a normal occurrence with polls?

benji, I heard you know about "polls and stuff", could you please explain?

data entry error probably in my experience

[paprikastaude]

Remember when people made fun of conservatives freaking out about the dangers of things like South Park and Joker towards children.

[railGUN]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-wife-teacher-just-got-arrested-at-school.170019/

 

Stop posting about this online, ask mods to lock, and yes call a lawyer.

Get a lawyer. Do not discuss the details of this online or on social media. If you're wife is a member of a teacher's union there might be legal services available through the union.

Get a lawyer immediately.

Delete all of this.

too late 

http://archive.is/NlESH

[railGUN]

It's weird to act like media and fandom can't influence

The alt right was partially birthed from a reaction to criticism of video games.

Okay, so you post on a large video game message board that often criticizes video games. Therefore, you are a member of the alt-right?

[team filler]

[team filler]

young shosti, this vid is from a time before you were born... you wouldn't understand 

[OnlyRegret]

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228019211311562752

just looks gibberish to me, then again, my exposure to SP is hovering above zero

[VomKriege]

It's weird to act like media and fandom can't influence

The alt right was partially birthed from a reaction to criticism of video games.

Okay, so you post on a large video game message board that often criticizes video games. Therefore, you are a member of the alt-right?

Only gaming side.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'm reminded of when Era was starting off and was still being raided by straight up unabashed Nazis, and you had a South Park thread say it's okay to use blackface when you're mocking Kanye West because he deserves it.

what

no, but I remember that sarah silverman thread where two current era mods said blackface is fine in tropic thunder and always sunny in philadelphia because of who the joke was actually aimed at, spoilers it was aimed the exact same way in SP and that sarah silverman skit

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

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            Is this loss?
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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

i dont think south park is anything but just matt and trey wanting to be contrarians for the sake of it because they have no real life experience

ffs era, there's a shortage of spiderman_pointing_at_spiderman.jpeg right now thanks to the coronavirus, could you chill with this shit for a bit?

[Snoopycat_]

I do so enjoy the attempts to silence the minority support in this thread attacking Bloomberg by waving a statistic in our faces. Very appreciative. Makes me feel very welcome here.

Black History Month Ladies and Gentlemen.

Not for nothing but no black guy in history has ever started a sentence with, I do so

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228019211311562752

simpsons did it first tho

[Raist]

Oh dear. Cap' about to get cancelled.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-evans-poses-with-a-young-girl-and-her-gleeful-father-ted-cruz-over-evans-new-civic-engagement-project.170016/

[VomKriege]

I guess his whole thing might end up being vapid punditry but it really has come down to even addressing in (pseudo) journalistic people you strongly disagree with being "sus".
Though the part that's even funnier is the ones trying to provide cover to that aforementioned ERAcrime.

Evans seems like a good guy so I'm going to assume this is one of those situations where he's doing right by a kid.

 

[BisMarckie]

All she needs is some good old black ding dong

Checked Neogaf and immediately found filler‘s alt

[HaughtyFrank]

Isn’t this in opposition to everything Chris claims to stand for on social media?

He LOVED the Botham hug.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-evans-poses-with-a-young-girl-and-her-gleeful-father-ted-cruz-over-evans-new-civic-engagement-project.170016/post-29107234

Being mad that someone liked an act of forgiveness. Just what is wrong with this guy

[VomKriege]

It would actually be interesting to see a full write up on if Bloomberg or Joe Rogan has said more openly racist/transphobic things.

That whole discussion

https://www.resetera.com/threads/democratic-presidential-primary-february-ot-it-cant-be-worse-than-iowa-right-discussion-guidelines-in-op.167107/post-29104141

[VomKriege]

That JesseEwiak guy is lit :

Not...really? I'm sure some random DNC staffer got an e-mail monthly, and ignored it, because they assumed the company the Iowa Democratic Party had hired was competent.

Then again it's the party that got phished by Russian Princes so...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/democratic-presidential-primary-february-ot-it-cant-be-worse-than-iowa-right-discussion-guidelines-in-op.167107/post-29099708

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/democratic-presidential-primary-february-ot-it-cant-be-worse-than-iowa-right-discussion-guidelines-in-op.167107/post-29101164

User banned (1 week): Ignoring the staff post in regards to sniping.

...why are you quoting me here?

My post has nothing at all to do with the other one you quoted.
it was a mistake.

btw how are you holding up with the Bernard surge? who are you rooting for now

[bork]

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lol imagine thinking anyone here cares about getting big visitor numbers. you stupid fucks

bork is a fat tyrant though so one point there

Things must be going to slow at reeeeeeeeee for them to keep looking to the bore for content.  But TIL that I'm the admin here, we care about visitor numbers, and that this thread was closed! 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/democratic-presidential-primary-february-ot-it-cant-be-worse-than-iowa-right-discussion-guidelines-in-op.167107/post-29098323

Matt

As I read all your posts from today in this thread, I was strongly reminded of the YouTube channel Innuendo Studios's The Alt-Right Playbook series. Specifically, the episode titled "You Go High, We Go Low." If you haven't seen it, or if it's been a while, I suggest you watch it. In fact, I want you to watch it, because otherwise you'll never understand where the people who've been responding to you are coming from, and why your seeming obsession with the "democratic process" and its "integrity" (your words) can be aggravating to them - and frankly, to me as well.

(...)

This stance of yours wouldn't be so frustrating if ERA wasn't supposed to be a safe space for the very vulnerable people Bloomberg has harmed... But it kind of is. Well, some of us try to make it that anyway. And you're not helping when you do this. Especially not as a mod. Honestly, I find your takes unsettlingly detached from reality.

Do better, dude.