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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14401 on: May 16, 2020, 10:04:29 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/end-game-was-beautifully-written.206715/

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14403 on: May 16, 2020, 11:23:05 PM »
mods snuck this one in so I couldn't say they took a month to get it out of "duration pending", it was still duration pending on friday morning :rage



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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14405 on: May 17, 2020, 12:20:32 AM »
mods snuck this one in so I couldn't say they took a month to get it out of "duration pending", it was still duration pending on friday morning :rage

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*autistic screeching* mod-team must have Alyssa Milano on it.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14406 on: May 17, 2020, 12:43:36 AM »
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14407 on: May 17, 2020, 12:44:28 AM »
This thread makes me so frustrated with this place.

If you watch John's content or ever read his posts there should be ONE conclusion you jump to from him talking about Ion Fury. It's a build engine game in 2020 on modern platforms, and he finds that fascinating.

Jumping to the accusations or insinuations that because he likes a game or makes content about something with problematic people involved means he endorses that or doesn't care about it is short-sided and not related to the conversation at all. This thread isn't even about that shit, it's about the technical performance of the game and John came in to talk about *that*.

I hate how it feels like every thread on this board can feel like a minefield where someone is just waiting for the chance to start tearing anyone down at any minute over something barely related to what they're even talking about.

John's a great person, this behavior drives people away from this board.
wait, isn't Limited Run Games problematic too?!?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/limited-run-games-overjoyed-to-partner-with-thq-nordic.122252/
They couldn't ban this guy so they extra banned this dude for agreeing with him:

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14408 on: May 17, 2020, 12:46:47 AM »
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Video kinda sold me on the Switch version. Was planning on picking it and it brought back memories of playing Doom on my crappy PC in the 90s. XD
Case in point for why it's bad to uncritically cover this game lol

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14409 on: May 17, 2020, 12:48:57 AM »
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Hitler wasn't a white supremacist? He literally coined the term "Master Race" and practiced eugenics.
he was more of an aryan supremacist than a white supremacist, everyone was inferion to the aryan race, even other white skinned races

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14410 on: May 17, 2020, 01:12:48 AM »
They couldn't ban this guy so they extra banned this dude for agreeing with him:
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"prior serious ban"
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14411 on: May 17, 2020, 01:31:52 AM »
User Banned (Duration Pending): Being pedantic about Hitler's status as a white supremacist

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Hitler wasn't a white supremacist? He literally coined the term "Master Race" and practiced eugenics.
he was more of an aryan supremacist than a white supremacist, everyone was inferion to the aryan race, even other white skinned races

How long would you be banned for pedantically pointing out that Hitler didn't literally coin the term Master Race? He probably didn't even speak English.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14412 on: May 17, 2020, 01:59:50 AM »


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14413 on: May 17, 2020, 02:52:41 AM »
Now it's been like a decade since I was a mod/admin, but wouldn't it make more sense to a have a single Tara Reade shit thread rather than telling everyone to keep it to the hundreds of Biden threads? Unless of course your goal was to fan the flames so as to ban... oh...

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14414 on: May 17, 2020, 03:33:01 AM »
Now it's been like a decade since I was a mod/admin, but wouldn't it make more sense to a have a single Tara Reade shit thread rather than telling everyone to keep it to the hundreds of Biden threads? Unless of course your goal was to fan the flames so as to ban... oh...

ERAF approach to this has always been super confusing from the outside. Sometimes things have to be consolidated in a single thread, to the point of bloating, sometimes not. ERA will punish derailment but apparently it doesn't include copypasting a post about the crimes of THQN in two dozens threads.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14416 on: May 17, 2020, 04:01:49 AM »
another one of these threads?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ive-never-been-able-to-handle-any-form-of-trash-talk-in-multiplayer.206601/
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I've started a few multiplayer games while in quarantine, and it reminded me that I'm incapable of handling any sort of trash talk or toxicity from people I'm playing with.

There have been cases where I'm enjoying a game fully until a level of trash talk is directed at me, at which point it just breaks my drive to continue playing and ends up ruining my day. There have been occurrences where I give up on a game completely just because of one bad experience I had in one match.

I feel like how easily this affects me mentally is not normal, and I wanted to ask if you or others have had a similar problem when playing games online, and what tips you have to not let toxic experiences like this influence mental health long-term.
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Agreed, it’s not just you. It’s a large reason why I respect Nintendo’s attitude towards online communication.
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This ruined Overwatch for me so I feel you. Mute everyone if you want to play MP. My solution was to drop Multiplayer online with randoms entirely. If you can find a group to play with it can be a good experience but I'm done playing with randoms.
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I'm kind of the same way. I get incredibly tilted when people start trying to bully me or other people on my team. I grew up in a toxic environment and just have zero patience for that shit.

It's why unless I'm playing with friends I always turn off chat/voice. Nothing anyone has ever typed at me or said to me on voice chat has ever been constructive or helpful enough for me to want to hear all the garbage .
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It's the main reason I always double check to see if my chat, messaging and friend request options are disabled. I'm really burned out with the "gamer community" to think they're not hateful toxic assholes.
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Trash talk just feels gross to me. Like there's something uncomfortably psychotic about talking that way to someone you've never met.
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Lots of open toxicity in this thread. Maybe your friends are okay with trash talking but maybe don’t pretend trash talking randos is acceptable?
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User banned (A week): Hostility; numerous bans for inflammatory drive-by posting

Trash talk makes the game. Get good or fuck off.

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Same. I am but a soft insecure marshmallow.
Takes little to break me.

I barely play multiplayer, but lucky for me, the ones I did play almost never had people on voice. I never played comp modes, so that likely helped.
I never touched my own mic, either.
this guy is using my old NeoGAF.com avatar, how do I report him for bullying :existential

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14417 on: May 17, 2020, 04:07:20 AM »
What are you implying? That I didn't storm off ResetERA.com after The Obliterator stole my username and turned it into a vast media empire?!? That I've been there the entire time posting under a wide variety of alt accounts?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14418 on: May 17, 2020, 04:21:30 AM »
The dude sounds like he couldn’t handle getting shit talked on animal crossing by jock villager.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14419 on: May 17, 2020, 05:40:15 AM »
That's how things go when you crave attention

Well, irony had a good run.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14420 on: May 17, 2020, 05:59:10 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-34243512
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Someone go into my thread please and tell me if I’m crazy or not, but, are we being targeted here?
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It seems like you're engaging with a lot of folks with 3 year old accounts and like 500 posts.

So yeah maybe.

As an aside maybe the mods should target accounts with suspect post counts who seem to only show up to spread bullshit anti-democracy rhetoric when they do post, instead of very active users who don't really say anything even all that controversial but get reported by said folks with low post counts and unclear motivations.

Just an idea. I've had my fair share of bans and honestly I don't really understand any of them. Like I get dogpiled for saying something that maybe isn't the collective viewpoint and then I get a ban for "hostility" just trying to defend myself for getting shit posted from all angles and I assume reported for doing so. Like it seems a bit fucked to me that you catch a month long ban for telling someone to fuck off who just called you a piece of shit on an internet forum. Like we can't handle an f bomb or something, on the internet.

Kirblar getting a perma is absolutely baffling. If I catch a ban for this post yeah I'll self request a perma.
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I dunno, this place is filled with people pretty open to admitting all sorts of politically unique opinions, I don't see why this is a bridge to far. We have open accelerationists, right?
That's news to me, care to point out said posts?

Edit: I'm serious, you see that shit please report it.
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Concur. Accelerationism (like all manners of doomerism, which I reckon are orthogonal but not exactly the same thing) is one of many things that bears discussion and deconstruction, not crackdowns.
No, it's not worth talking about advocating for Trump to win. The why of it doesn't matter, you'd still be advocating for Trump to win and look what's been happening. We've literally got hundreds of people (largely people of color) dying every damn day for no reason other than he's an incompetent bigot. You really think another four years of that is a good thing? I mean, shit, four years of Trump literally lead to people being so terrified they decided to go with Biden. Four more years and it'll probably be even worse.

If you're just momentarily frustrated then I get it, but actively wanting to make shit worse for tens of millions of people (killing a bunch in the process) on the off-chance you'll get what you want? That's fucked up.
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I don't believe anyone arguing for accelerationism is actually a leftist or progressive in any way. I don't buy that bullshit on the internet.
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Just popping in to say goodbye PoliERA. I get the picture now.

I'll miss the old you.
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To weigh in, it's very clear to me that those that think like me aren't welcome here. I'm largely a pragmatist; what works works. You support anyone marginalized, provided they support that system, one in which you raise people up.

I am a straight, white man who grew up with a gay father, a gay best friend, living in a black neighborhood, raised by a single mother and two strong grandmothers. All of which informed my worldview.

But this site, a respite among the plethora, fucked up. I do believe women, but that doesn't inherently mean believing every single woman in every single instance. Some people lie, some people misremember, some people conflate.

And we have a site beholden to what? A site where you can openly call someone a rapist? That their supporters are rape apologists? With no pushback? With zero goddamn moderation to the opposing views while other who correctly read the situation are banned?
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So, just want to toss my 2c in here, apologies in advance if I misspeak on something, it's late o'clock my time but clearly I'm not gonna get much sleeping done.

First off, we do ban people for accusations like that. We don't ban people for commenting on the existence of rape apologists, because they do exist, and yes, some of them do support Biden. Patriarchy is messy like that. But if anybody is directly saying "you biden lovers are rape apologists" or some variation on that, report them, please. We ban for that. We also ban for hostility, derails into other significant-news topics like policy announcements, that sort of thing. What we don't ban, and probably won't barring a significant new revelation, is people calling Biden a rapist.

The reason for this is twofold. Firstly, we mostly don't ban for stuff people say about public figures unless it violates our rules around bigotry. And secondly... well, I gotta ask you something first:
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With zero goddamn moderation to the opposing views while other who correctly read the situation are banned?
What's the correct read? Because I'll freely admit I don't know at this point. This is an unspeakably messy situation. In 2020, I'm not gonna act shocked when a powerful old white man gets accused of sexual assault. That's been sort of a theme of the last few years, it can really be just about anybody. So when Reade came forward and I listened to that interview she gave with Halper... She sure as hell sounded credible to me. And that's where the whole believe women thing kicks in. It means you take it seriously until you have real evidence otherwise. And we don't have that. But it's been made unspeakably messy. It got made messy by the Intercept writer coaching her and her brother. It got made messier when she pivoted from the National archives to the Delaware ones as soon as the Biden camp said they'd open the former. It got even worse than that when the Vox piece and then the new PBS one came out.

So, like, I think more than anything else, if I could call on anybody to do anything - and I realize I can't in here - it'd be to exercise more restraint. People don't like it when moderation does that, calls it censorship. "How can it be a discussion forum when only one side is allowed to talk?!?" and all that. And I get the sentiment, I do. But at the same time, if the situation is uncertain, and we know that abandoning uncertainty, calling Reade a liar or a Putin puppet or worse can do real harm to people, to other victims, to those thinking of coming forward... maybe just don't? Like, saying "I don't know what to believe any more" is a perfectly fine thing to do. Saying you're going to support Biden, also fine, not bannable unless there's some other context going on that twists the meaning significantly. And, yes, saying nothing is a valid option too. God knows that's how I made it through over the years. Staying quiet until I knew enough to speak with real, genuine certainty, which means I got a lot of time to listen and learn, and frankly I'm really glad I did, but... It's a tough one here, because we may never know for sure what happened. We might not get a clean resolution to this. And that's going to just...

God, this whole thing is such a misery-maker. That's unlikely to change.

Anyway, that's where I'm at, more or less.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14421 on: May 17, 2020, 06:10:10 AM »
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As an aside maybe the mods should target accounts with suspect post counts who seem to only show up to spread bullshit anti-democracy rhetoric when they do post, instead of very active users who don't really say anything even all that controversial but get reported by said folks with low post counts and unclear motivations.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/juniors-and-the-treatment-of-new-members-going-forward.1749/

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Update 2 - admin post:

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Just to chime in here. 'Juniors' won't be labeled as such. Everyone is considered a 'Member' visibly. There will be some posting restrictions, but as far as a visible way to distinguish one from another, that won't be the case. It was something that pretty much all of the moderation team felt was the right way to go.

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The amount of times I saw people type things skiing the lines of "be careful, junior" was ridiculous.

It was like a free pass to be snarky to someone, if you ended your sentence with ', junior'. I'd hate to see that carry on over here. Sure, with any community like this there are bound to be "celebrities", but everyone should be treated as equal, no matter if they've posted 10 or 10,000 times.

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I was planning to make a post to state how dissatisfied I was with how Juniors were treated at the old place. It was really appalling and it discouraged a lot of people from participating. In addition, I want to see no mentions in this place of how a higher post count is indication of a more "valid" opinion.

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Agree with its 100%. Pissed me off to no end when someone would post, "lol, junior," at the old place. Our words should be evaluated on content and context, not some tag under our name.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14422 on: May 17, 2020, 06:12:53 AM »
Post 20 times per day or your opinion doesn’t mean shit noob :wag

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14423 on: May 17, 2020, 06:12:56 AM »
Also fucking  :heh at "accelerationism" being an offense.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14424 on: May 17, 2020, 06:14:21 AM »
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It's a shame what's happened to this community thread and the forum in general. Really soured on discussing politics at all around here now. Wtf am I gonna do now...
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14425 on: May 17, 2020, 06:21:05 AM »
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And like that, Reset Era is instantly on a great path, imo.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/juniors-and-the-treatment-of-new-members-going-forward.1749/post-152171
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14426 on: May 17, 2020, 06:23:41 AM »
User Banned (2 weeks): Ignoring staff post; backseat moderation

Is this not a drive by off topic post? As this thread is about DF video and the technical aspects. I would like it if we stayed on topic. because dragging DF through the mud especially john is not cool.
but there's no [STAFF POST] in this thread :huh

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14427 on: May 17, 2020, 06:25:22 AM »
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Just to chime in here. 'Juniors' won't be labeled as such. Everyone is considered a 'Member' visibly.

I love this

https://www.resetera.com/threads/juniors-and-the-treatment-of-new-members-going-forward.1749/post-130436
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14428 on: May 17, 2020, 06:26:11 AM »
So many accounts in that thread I haven't seen in years, and I'm not just talking about the banned ones.
It's well known that minorities and women have been leaving the forum for years due to its virulent bigotry endorsed by the staff.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14429 on: May 17, 2020, 06:28:11 AM »
User Banned (2 weeks): Ignoring staff post; backseat moderation

Is this not a drive by off topic post? As this thread is about DF video and the technical aspects. I would like it if we stayed on topic. because dragging DF through the mud especially john is not cool.
but there's no [STAFF POST] in this thread :huh

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PRO TIP: if you don’t see a staff post it’s probably placed above the reply box which I’m assuming you need an account to see.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14430 on: May 17, 2020, 06:29:08 AM »
Whatever will we do without poliera to guide us?! 😢
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14431 on: May 17, 2020, 06:34:22 AM »
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Myself, I usually watch DF retro videos, but haven't watched this one nor do I want to, because I don't want Ion Fury's devs to see the watch count for the video go up and think there is tacit agreement in their views.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14432 on: May 17, 2020, 06:35:19 AM »
Whatever will we do without poliera to guide us?! 😢
Accelerate.

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« Reply #14433 on: May 17, 2020, 06:40:54 AM »
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Not to call anyone out specifically, but the uncritical "thanks for the video" posts in the middle of a long discussion come off really tone deaf.
Yes, thank you.

For all the talk about harassment against df, personally I feel the one being attacked by this sort of passive agressive behaviour. It's just a way of dismissing the discussion withou catching a ban.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14434 on: May 17, 2020, 06:57:15 AM »
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Ideally, the df and eurogamer crew would get together and decide to release a statement that the team as a whole does not endorse bigotry and hate, taking Dark1x and other individuals out of the spotlight as good as possible. Now there would definitely still be people directly attacking Dark1x, but it may soften the blow.
I think a better mea culpa would be a donation to charity, personally. Saying your sorry is easier than acting upon it.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14435 on: May 17, 2020, 07:04:45 AM »
This is the Future PoliERA prevented.  :-\
https://youtu.be/FDVCmYEYaFE?t=162
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14436 on: May 17, 2020, 07:08:33 AM »
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Ideally, the df and eurogamer crew would get together and decide to release a statement that the team as a whole does not endorse bigotry and hate, taking Dark1x and other individuals out of the spotlight as good as possible. Now there would definitely still be people directly attacking Dark1x, but it may soften the blow.
I think a better mea culpa would be a donation to charity, personally. Saying your sorry is easier than acting upon it.
:lol

We're doing this again heh ?  :gurl
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benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14437 on: May 17, 2020, 07:13:19 AM »
We're doing this again heh ?  :gurl
I assume you mean discussing where all the excess profits go from ResetERA.com. Surely after the moderators are paid, they go to setup game programming design journalism schools for underprivileged children as was proposed originally.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14438 on: May 17, 2020, 07:17:17 AM »
Didn't Dark10x recently did a post about how he couldn't take it anymore during the pandemic?
Some panic about how he went to Xbox to see the new console and might've been in danger or some shit.

What I'm saying is, will ResetEra claim another victim?


Also, what has  Krejlooc the indie dev actually developed?  ???
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14439 on: May 17, 2020, 07:22:00 AM »
Another double ban!
User Banned (3 Days): Antagonizing another user
User Banned (2 Weeks): Conspiratorial Rhetoric and Antagonizing Another User Across Different Posts

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14440 on: May 17, 2020, 07:23:33 AM »
lol you could ban the whole last page of that thread for "hostility" and "antagonizing another user" if you wanted to and didn't play favorites
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I don't give a shit about the farce that is modern day politics in America and believing that it actually does anything to help the poor and working class citizens. It seems reality is sorta lost on you though.
No I live in it. The only farce here is your idea that you don't inderectly support Trump with your inaction. But it's ok because you live in CA. Your conscience is clear. What a joke. I hope your influence is narrow and dwindles to nothing in time. It will be my mission to make sure everyone who is able stops racism while you help out. "Locally".

benjipwns

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« Reply #14441 on: May 17, 2020, 07:25:47 AM »
And with the concerns now having been raised, if they do nothing, the alt-right will see this as a victory. Haha the SJWs tried to push their agenda and got BTFO

DF and Eurogamer should, if they're not already, look for ways to support John and the rest of their staff against potential harassment - the kind of harassment you describe, not the criticism some people on this board are describing as harassment. John's content is great, I totally get why he would be excited to discuss a game like this, and he doesn't deserve harassment. But I think we're past the point now where not taking a stand one way or the other is an option.

I think the suggestions above about a charity donation or DF and Eurogamer presenting a united front against bigotry to take and take some of the heat off John personally are pretty good.
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I agree with everything you've posted. No matter how they react going forward, they're going to upset someone. At that point, I'd follow my heart and do what's right, personally, but that's easy for me to say when I know one group would harass you personally in dangerous ways while the other wouldn't. For all the talks of "harassment" in this topic, nobody is actually attempting to harm John.

Ultimately, I wish they just had never made this video. And I'm willing to bet 100% John is feeling the same way right now.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14442 on: May 17, 2020, 07:36:30 AM »
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Clearly you don't know my thinking and philosophies on white supremacy, nor in general are well versed about how much of a racial caste system America continues to exist under. The idea that it isn't everywhere is patently absurd. I suggest you start here with this book: Racism Without Racists. You have a day off now, and we're in a pandemic; even if you're essential, you have nothing else to do.
The idea that white supremacy isn't everywhere is patently absurd.

According to the administrator of ResetEra.com at the crossroads of the gaming industry and pop culture
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14443 on: May 17, 2020, 07:38:31 AM »
And with the concerns now having been raised, if they do nothing, the alt-right will see this as a victory. Haha the SJWs tried to push their agenda and got BTFO

DF and Eurogamer should, if they're not already, look for ways to support John and the rest of their staff against potential harassment - the kind of harassment you describe, not the criticism some people on this board are describing as harassment. John's content is great, I totally get why he would be excited to discuss a game like this, and he doesn't deserve harassment. But I think we're past the point now where not taking a stand one way or the other is an option.

I think the suggestions above about a charity donation or DF and Eurogamer presenting a united front against bigotry to take and take some of the heat off John personally are pretty good.
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I agree with everything you've posted. No matter how they react going forward, they're going to upset someone. At that point, I'd follow my heart and do what's right, personally, but that's easy for me to say when I know one group would harass you personally in dangerous ways while the other wouldn't. For all the talks of "harassment" in this topic, nobody is actually attempting to harm John.

Ultimately, I wish they just had never made this video. And I'm willing to bet 100% John is feeling the same way right now.
:brain

But words are violence.  At least when they do it to our side.  When we do it to them it's just harmless rhetoric.



lol you could ban the whole last page of that thread for "hostility" and "antagonizing another user" if you wanted to and didn't play favorites
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I don't give a shit about the farce that is modern day politics in America and believing that it actually does anything to help the poor and working class citizens. It seems reality is sorta lost on you though.
No I live in it. The only farce here is your idea that you don't inderectly support Trump with your inaction. But it's ok because you live in CA. Your conscience is clear. What a joke. I hope your influence is narrow and dwindles to nothing in time. It will be my mission to make sure everyone who is able stops racism while you help out. "Locally".

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14444 on: May 17, 2020, 07:43:55 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-many-of-you-don’t-take-pain-killers-of-any-kind.206523/

Why does this thread bother me so much? 5 pages of people saying shit like “I hate painkillers so I just deal with my headaches” Like why wouldn’t you just take an Advil?
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I don't for two reasons:

1) I don't want my body to get used to it for the day I absolutely need it

2) I need to monitor the pain to make sure it doesn't get worse, and more importantly, you DO NOT want to prevent a fever as it's a defense mechanism and it can lead to disasters if there is a spread in your body that it didn't fight
I think this is my fav.
First, NSAIDs don’t lose efficacy with use.
Second, a fever can kill you dumbass. A temp of 101+ isn’t doing a damn thing for you and can cause brain injury or if you don’t take something for it can climb to 104+ and then good luck homie.

It’s nice to know that during a pandemic that can cause life threatening fevers, resetera is out there fighting the fight against life saving NSAIDs. I just don’t understand these people.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14445 on: May 17, 2020, 07:48:02 AM »
JCVD                               JCVD
DOUBLE BAN

Another double ban!
User Banned (3 Days): Antagonizing another user
User Banned (2 Weeks): Conspiratorial Rhetoric and Antagonizing Another User Across Different Posts

I could understand this happening if bans were handled by individual mods in uncoordinated fashion, but I was told they never did that.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14446 on: May 17, 2020, 07:53:19 AM »
And with the concerns now having been raised, if they do nothing, the alt-right will see this as a victory. Haha the SJWs tried to push their agenda and got BTFO

DF and Eurogamer should, if they're not already, look for ways to support John and the rest of their staff against potential harassment - the kind of harassment you describe, not the criticism some people on this board are describing as harassment. John's content is great, I totally get why he would be excited to discuss a game like this, and he doesn't deserve harassment. But I think we're past the point now where not taking a stand one way or the other is an option.

I think the suggestions above about a charity donation or DF and Eurogamer presenting a united front against bigotry to take and take some of the heat off John personally are pretty good.
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I agree with everything you've posted. No matter how they react going forward, they're going to upset someone. At that point, I'd follow my heart and do what's right, personally, but that's easy for me to say when I know one group would harass you personally in dangerous ways while the other wouldn't. For all the talks of "harassment" in this topic, nobody is actually attempting to harm John.

Ultimately, I wish they just had never made this video. And I'm willing to bet 100% John is feeling the same way right now.
:brain

Funny that, I didn’t see any alt right types harassing him, just a bunch of pricks trying to batter him because he liked a game from what you describe as a problematic dev? Hmmmm

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14447 on: May 17, 2020, 07:59:31 AM »
Can we move on to something more interesting already?
So you want the alt-right and dirtbag-left to win? Because they're the only ones who want people to "move on" from defending the marginalized. :karen

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14448 on: May 17, 2020, 08:04:28 AM »
that's the world you already inhabit

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14449 on: May 17, 2020, 08:06:05 AM »
Exactly as I planned all along.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14450 on: May 17, 2020, 08:07:10 AM »
Now make a donation to me or else I'll e-mail your embassy.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14451 on: May 17, 2020, 08:08:52 AM »
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Ideally, the df and eurogamer crew would get together and decide to release a statement that the team as a whole does not endorse bigotry and hate, taking Dark1x and other individuals out of the spotlight as good as possible. Now there would definitely still be people directly attacking Dark1x, but it may soften the blow.
I think a better mea culpa would be a donation to charity, personally. Saying your sorry is easier than acting upon it.
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Great idea considering how it did fuck all for the ion fury devs to the point where everyone has forgotten about it

benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14452 on: May 17, 2020, 08:09:28 AM »


 :american

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« Reply #14453 on: May 17, 2020, 08:10:22 AM »
Great idea considering how it did fuck all for the ion fury devs to the point where everyone has forgotten about it
FACT CHECK:
they also said they’d donate a large sum of money (I forget how much) to a trans-supporting charity but I have never seen anything to indicate that actually happened

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14454 on: May 17, 2020, 08:12:31 AM »
Only GAF/GAFv2 can spin harassing some dude who dared to talk about a game into a righteous cause. :american

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14455 on: May 17, 2020, 08:12:31 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-many-of-you-don’t-take-pain-killers-of-any-kind.206523/

Why does this thread bother me so much? 5 pages of people saying shit like “I hate painkillers so I just deal with my headaches” Like why wouldn’t you just take an Advil?
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I don't for two reasons:

1) I don't want my body to get used to it for the day I absolutely need it

2) I need to monitor the pain to make sure it doesn't get worse, and more importantly, you DO NOT want to prevent a fever as it's a defense mechanism and it can lead to disasters if there is a spread in your body that it didn't fight
I think this is my fav.
First, NSAIDs don’t lose efficacy with use.
Second, a fever can kill you dumbass. A temp of 101+ isn’t doing a damn thing for you and can cause brain injury or if you don’t take something for it can climb to 104+ and then good luck homie.

It’s nice to know that during a pandemic that can cause life threatening fevers, resetera is out there fighting the fight against life saving NSAIDs. I just don’t understand these people.

I drink too damn much to be taking taking painkillers.  Also, alcohol takes away the the pain and I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real . . . Dun dun dun.
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benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14456 on: May 17, 2020, 08:17:04 AM »
Only GAF/GAFv2 can spin harassing some dude who dared to talk about a game into a righteous cause. :american
Nobody was harassed, stop spreading alt-right myths. It was purely constructive criticism to help better inform viewers so they would know not to purchase the game. The only harassment is now from the alt-right who are attacking ResetERA.com, a known haven for bigots, in the comments of the video.

Not surprised to see a pro-filler dreamer spreading alt-right lies tbqh.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14457 on: May 17, 2020, 08:22:34 AM »
FACT CHECK:My filler dream was completely non-sexual, we just smoked some weed together :hmph

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14458 on: May 17, 2020, 08:29:22 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-many-of-you-don’t-take-pain-killers-of-any-kind.206523/

Why does this thread bother me so much? 5 pages of people saying shit like “I hate painkillers so I just deal with my headaches” Like why wouldn’t you just take an Advil?
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I don't for two reasons:

1) I don't want my body to get used to it for the day I absolutely need it

2) I need to monitor the pain to make sure it doesn't get worse, and more importantly, you DO NOT want to prevent a fever as it's a defense mechanism and it can lead to disasters if there is a spread in your body that it didn't fight
I think this is my fav.
First, NSAIDs don’t lose efficacy with use.
Second, a fever can kill you dumbass. A temp of 101+ isn’t doing a damn thing for you and can cause brain injury or if you don’t take something for it can climb to 104+ and then good luck homie.

It’s nice to know that during a pandemic that can cause life threatening fevers, resetera is out there fighting the fight against life saving NSAIDs. I just don’t understand these people.

Whatever floats everyone's boat, I guess, but lumping every medication down to Advil in the same bag of potential addiction (?) or character weakness (?) is unscientific and not really helpful.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #14459 on: May 17, 2020, 08:32:21 AM »
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If people are going to contact Eurogamer about putting a warning on their article you may as well contact IGN, PC Gamer, Destrucoid, Game Informer, etc too. They all have positive reviews up without any disclaimer.

Of course this post has been and will be ignored.

"What? you're telling me that no one gives a shit about this and now I have to contact every outlet, industry wide, to voice my displeasure that their reviews didn't mention the gay joke?

Nah, lets just gang up on Poor John and the rest of the industry will definitely get the message. Anyway, Poor John is the only sucker that will actually acknowledge our outrage. And he is even on our side, so if we just fucking drill it into him that he is literally harming me with his technical analysis he will surely stick around and become our closest ally, Right?"