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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21240 on: July 18, 2020, 11:11:20 PM »
as a maltiborean

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21241 on: July 18, 2020, 11:20:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/consumerism-and-the-attachment-to-negative-brands-that-directly-hurt-trans-and-minority-viewpoints.250878/

I guess Banshee mcspook is tired of people ignoring the pinned bait thread and decided to be more direct. :lol
Anyone dumb enough to post in this new thread that isn't in lock-step with the OP is asking to get banned.
Someone needs to teach Banshee the importance of paragraphs lol. Who the fuck is gonna read that shit?

Also, these people are insane:

"I was very close to making a thread that would have asked if it was too late for Keanu Reeves to drop out of Cyberpunk because of differing moral and political leanings. I kept thinking, there are those times when problem individuals are written out and replaced, but I never see an individual actively remove themself from a problem game/developer.

I felt like that would be considered a big blow and get more journalistic and reader eyes on it from outside the industry.

But then I thought how the reactions would have gone and didn't bother. Yeah, I recognize the issue."

Why do these people hate CDPR again? I don't follow every single cancel culture thread.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21242 on: July 18, 2020, 11:40:28 PM »
 I wonder if everyone calling CP77 a shitty game could give me some advice, having played it in its entirety, about how best to build a high charisma corpo stealth hacker?
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« Reply #21243 on: July 18, 2020, 11:43:30 PM »
Why do these people hate CDPR again? I don't follow every single cancel culture thread.

Not enough penis/vagina customization options and mean tweets by the twitter team at CDPR.

http://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1281594925612703744

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21244 on: July 18, 2020, 11:50:29 PM »
Why do these people hate CDPR again? I don't follow every single cancel culture thread.

Not enough penis/vagina customization options and mean tweets by the twitter team at CDPR.

http://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1281594925612703744

So a bad joke and these folks have multiple page 20 page threads? How is this transphobic?

bdoughty

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21245 on: July 19, 2020, 12:01:58 AM »
It's Resetera, everything is transphobic.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21246 on: July 19, 2020, 12:02:37 AM »
Why do these people hate CDPR again? I don't follow every single cancel culture thread.

Not enough penis/vagina customization options and mean tweets by the twitter team at CDPR.

http://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1281594925612703744

So a bad joke and these folks have multiple page 20 page threads? How is this transphobic?
It's not. If you tried to explain how it's transphobic to someone IRL you would sound like an insane person.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21247 on: July 19, 2020, 12:04:50 AM »
Why do these people hate CDPR again? I don't follow every single cancel culture thread.

Not enough penis/vagina customization options and mean tweets by the twitter team at CDPR.

http://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1281594925612703744

So a bad joke and these folks have multiple page 20 page threads? How is this transphobic?
That one wasn't for the transphobia i think, but because only one vagina was, like, body shaming other types of vagina (?) some Mr. Incredible reach like that.
But the thread was made by a troll, so it's even more absurd.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21248 on: July 19, 2020, 01:00:36 AM »
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I think most of people don't even comment in those threads to avoid getting banned.

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ask staff I assume low activity which is unfortunately expected

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However it feels like the vast majority of people talking in these threads agree with you. The people who don't or don't care just ignore them, tho a few go big lengths to defend them and get banned.


They are still whining people aren't going into those threads and commenting. Why would they when only one viewpoint is allowed and anyone posting that's straying from that point is banned? It's easier and safer to just vote in a poll or ignore the thread entirely. Most of the sane, regular users on ERA have gotten the clue to avoid certain threads out of necessity. And whose fault do they think it is that ERA users are in self-preservation mode constantly?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21249 on: July 19, 2020, 04:55:46 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/consumerism-and-the-attachment-to-negative-brands-that-directly-hurt-trans-and-minority-viewpoints.250878/

I guess Banshee mcspook is tired of people ignoring the pinned bait thread and decided to be more direct. :lol
Anyone dumb enough to post in this new thread that isn't in lock-step with the OP is asking to get banned.

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As you know I made a massive thread that's still pinned

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21250 on: July 19, 2020, 05:08:05 AM »
Why do these people hate CDPR again? I don't follow every single cancel culture thread.

Not enough penis/vagina customization options and mean tweets by the twitter team at CDPR.

http://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1281594925612703744

So a bad joke and these folks have multiple page 20 page threads? How is this transphobic?
That one wasn't for the transphobia i think, but because only one vagina was, like, body shaming other types of vagina (?) some Mr. Incredible reach like that.
But the thread was made by a troll, so it's even more absurd.
Excuse me? Gross fucking post.
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It's Mrs Incredible AKA Elastigirl that has long reach.  :wag
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21251 on: July 19, 2020, 05:43:18 AM »
Why do these people hate CDPR again? I don't follow every single cancel culture thread.

Not enough penis/vagina customization options and mean tweets by the twitter team at CDPR.

http://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1281594925612703744

So a bad joke and these folks have multiple page 20 page threads? How is this transphobic?

There's a handful of earlier incidents like that (one or two with the GOG.com account) but of the same order. Some people on ERA really have an axe to grind with CDPR, decided a couple of years ago they were bigots (if you ask me with a lot of confirmation bias about GAMINGyikes and Poland) and since then have been reaching for any straw to ignite some controversy. You had a string of outrage baiting threads last year :
- The v1 of the rules of the RPG had you losing points in "humanity" with each bodymod and the language lumped something akin to sex change in there. -Paraphrasing from memory but that was the gist of it- (IIRC the rules were amended and the creator recognized that while it wasn't the intent, it could be read with unfortunate implications.)
- Something because one of the gang are the "Savages" or such a name and have dreadlocks / some Haitian props going on (gang is multiracial both in the game and in lore. The RPG creator is black. And involved with CDPR).
- A piece of in universe art has a poster for a drink advertised by a babe with a visible dick bulge so it's FETISH YIKES because despite saying the contrary some people in ERA do not accept or understand that depiction and endorsement in fiction are not the same thing. (Artist is, IIRC, queer.)
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21252 on: July 19, 2020, 06:21:04 AM »
CDPR seem to be going out of their way to do right for transgender people but ree just aren’t having it :lol
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21253 on: July 19, 2020, 07:20:50 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/elderly-woman-shows-off-her-xenoblade-chronicles-collection.249387/

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Awh. Wish she could be on here. She's so nice.
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Can’t wait for them to cancel an old lady.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21254 on: July 19, 2020, 07:50:54 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/consumerism-and-the-attachment-to-negative-brands-that-directly-hurt-trans-and-minority-viewpoints.250878/

I guess Banshee mcspook is tired of people ignoring the pinned bait thread and decided to be more direct. :lol
Anyone dumb enough to post in this new thread that isn't in lock-step with the OP is asking to get banned.

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As you know I made a massive thread that's still pinned

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As soon as they posted that the mods unpinned it  :lol

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21255 on: July 19, 2020, 08:15:03 AM »
I liked it a lot

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21256 on: July 19, 2020, 08:20:10 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/knives-out-is-a-terrible-who-done-it-open-spoilers.250743/

No idea there'd be such a defense force for such a mediocre movie.

I'm guessing it's because it's a Rian Johnson movie.

The funny bit is this:

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poor OP doesn't get the movie, you and your wife deserve each other i guess
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That's reasonable. I mean that's a bit nasty of a reply for not liking the movie you beat off too.

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poor OP doesn't get the movie, you and your wife deserve each other i guess
You're probably a cunt
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I mean, wha? Can we get some truth in advertising here, because that insult was a pale shadow of what the other guy instigated with. Oooh, its because he said the

C-WORD

right?

Nope not prudes.


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21257 on: July 19, 2020, 08:24:15 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/consumerism-and-the-attachment-to-negative-brands-that-directly-hurt-trans-and-minority-viewpoints.250878/

I guess Banshee mcspook is tired of people ignoring the pinned bait thread and decided to be more direct. :lol
Anyone dumb enough to post in this new thread that isn't in lock-step with the OP is asking to get banned.
I wonder how long til the infighting and mass reporting starts because someone brings up Resetera as a brand to which (crazy) people have attached themselves.

bdoughty

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21258 on: July 19, 2020, 08:32:25 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/who-would-hank-hill-vote-for.250875/

Actually a descent question being posed. First Season Hank would probably vote for Trump. Every other season Hank would vote for Biden. He got less conservative as the years went on.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21259 on: July 19, 2020, 09:05:00 AM »
Can't square Hank Hill's views on steak with him voting for a man that eats well done with ketchup.  :doge


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21261 on: July 19, 2020, 10:12:00 AM »
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For a company that is so careful with maintaining a family-friendly image
That image has been dead for a while. Extorting children/parents to keep save data safe. Selling trash joy-cons to consumers fully knowing that it's a broken product not fit for sale. Putting the same trash joy-cons in the Switch Lite. Nah, that image is stone dead. They're in it for the money only and Waifus probably rake in cash for them.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21262 on: July 19, 2020, 10:31:24 AM »
I'm probably late to the party on this one, but apparently the word "savage" is considered a racial slur now?


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21263 on: July 19, 2020, 10:45:37 AM »
Always was

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21264 on: July 19, 2020, 11:07:46 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-direct-speculation-ot10-bakugan-with-the-wind.245581/page-338
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21265 on: July 19, 2020, 11:10:04 AM »
I'm probably late to the party on this one, but apparently the word "savage" is considered a racial slur now?

Was used on Native Americans.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21266 on: July 19, 2020, 11:16:18 AM »
I suppose outside of using it to describe Native Americans, I never gave it much thought. Not like it was a part of my vocabulary, but I see it used around the internet quite often.

There's an ongoing discussion about whether or not it was okay for the Yankees manager to use the word to describe his players and it made me question it.

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« Reply #21267 on: July 19, 2020, 11:17:43 AM »
Macho Man Randy N-Word.


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21270 on: July 19, 2020, 11:56:25 AM »
I'm probably late to the party on this one, but apparently the word "savage" is considered a racial slur now?

Absolutely. If the nword is one, savage absolutely needs to be one.
Rocket League btfo. Add it to the list mcspooky.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21271 on: July 19, 2020, 12:17:29 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gaming-has-a-big-problem-with-arab-muslim-stereotyping-video-analysis.251088/#post-40113663

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This is mainly a Western problem not just gaming where every facet of entertainment paints Muslims into a singular box. Especially in the US where the average muslim rep are arab muslims even though the majority of muslims in the US are Black muslims



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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21272 on: July 19, 2020, 12:24:49 PM »
Ideally we could have a discussion regarding those who detransition but such news stories and the way they are presented, especially in the context of trans rights being eroded in the UK, serve to marginalise and de-legitimise trans people. We feel it's in the best interests of trans people on this site to close this topic.

CHALLENGING THE NARRATIVE IS NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR ACTIVIST MEMBERS

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21273 on: July 19, 2020, 12:31:39 PM »
Let's unpack why;

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I think this part is important, before anyone coughROWLINGcough claims this is a large phenomenon:
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Research by Stonewall showed that of the 3,398 transgender patients who had appointments at an NHS Gender Identity Service between 2016 and 2017, less than 1% said they had experienced regret after transitioning or had detransitioned.

"I don't think we should make any special accomodation for what amounts to only about 1% of the group" says trans activist without a hint of irony or self awareness

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I think this part is important, before anyone coughROWLINGcough claims this is a large phenomenon:
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Rowling has already claimed this

Rowling did not in fact claim this, she was quoting - thats what this symbol "" means, its not for emphasis - someone who was also not claiming that, and got doublecancelledplus for doing so

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From what I've heard about the Tavistock Centre there was complete mis-management where they just didn't listen to clinicians and allowed go ahead to treatment with the minimum of patient contact where only one interview was enough (rather than the 2-3 guidelines stipulated).

Also these clinicians were told not to raise their concerns to independent body (think it's one person IIRC) who are there to make sure things were done right.

Gonna be a lot of fall out over this I expect.

People raising concerns were silenced and accused of transphobia just for the act of raising concerns, says report with zero parallels to be drawn in a hastily locked topic.

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« Reply #21274 on: July 19, 2020, 12:37:00 PM »
Ideally we could have a discussion regarding those who detransition but such news stories and the way they are presented, especially in the context of trans rights being eroded in the UK, serve to marginalise and de-legitimise trans people. We feel it's in the best interests of trans people on this site to close this topic.

CHALLENGING THE NARRATIVE IS NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR ACTIVIST MEMBERS
By all means they can lock, ban, and ignore anything that gives prominent members the vapours, but I wish they wouldn’t then pretend to have a well rounded outlook on gender politics in the UK in future topics.

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« Reply #21275 on: July 19, 2020, 12:50:33 PM »
They basically admit that they're incapable of acknowledging this topic. They're mad that it gives terfs ammunition but it only gives them ammunition because communities like RE treat it like a dirty secret.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21276 on: July 19, 2020, 01:04:05 PM »
Ideally we could have a discussion regarding those who detransition but such news stories and the way they are presented, especially in the context of trans rights being eroded in the UK, serve to marginalise and de-legitimise trans people. We feel it's in the best interests of trans people on this site to close this topic.

CHALLENGING THE NARRATIVE IS NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR ACTIVIST MEMBERS
Transitioning in Bad Faith. :wag

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21277 on: July 19, 2020, 01:04:32 PM »
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Ideally we could have a discussion regarding those who detransition but such news stories and the way they are presented, especially in the context of trans rights being eroded in the UK, serve to marginalise and de-legitimise trans people. We feel it's in the best interests of trans people on this site to close this topic.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21278 on: July 19, 2020, 01:12:33 PM »
They basically admit that they're incapable of acknowledging this topic. They're mad that it gives terfs ammunition but it only gives them ammunition because communities like RE treat it like a dirty secret.

Its because what certain activists claim - that you are whatever you say you are - is fundamentally at odds to a medical condition requiring chemical or surgical solutions to resolve, and doing things like coaching people on what to say to a doctor, not actually answering what they are being asked truthfully is harmful to individuals.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21279 on: July 19, 2020, 02:16:45 PM »
Let's unpack why;

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I think this part is important, before anyone coughROWLINGcough claims this is a large phenomenon:
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Research by Stonewall showed that of the 3,398 transgender patients who had appointments at an NHS Gender Identity Service between 2016 and 2017, less than 1% said they had experienced regret after transitioning or had detransitioned.

"I don't think we should make any special accomodation for what amounts to only about 1% of the group" says trans activist without a hint of irony or self awareness

Not that I disagree with your general sentiment but to be fair the bit you quoted doesn't mention special accomodation unless I'm missing something. I don't think it's dishonest to point that detransitioning is AFAIK a fairly minor phenomenon to put it in proper context and perspective.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21280 on: July 19, 2020, 02:38:16 PM »
I'm probably late to the party on this one, but apparently the word "savage" is considered a racial slur now?

Absolutely. If the nword is one, savage absolutely needs to be one.

Disney now has its blackface moment and has to remove an entire song and/or movie from their catalog



it's even both-sidesism with the song having the natives calling the settlers savage too as if it's "just as bad when they do it"
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« Reply #21281 on: July 19, 2020, 03:02:01 PM »
Let's unpack why;

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I think this part is important, before anyone coughROWLINGcough claims this is a large phenomenon:
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Research by Stonewall showed that of the 3,398 transgender patients who had appointments at an NHS Gender Identity Service between 2016 and 2017, less than 1% said they had experienced regret after transitioning or had detransitioned.

"I don't think we should make any special accomodation for what amounts to only about 1% of the group" says trans activist without a hint of irony or self awareness

Not that I disagree with your general sentiment but to be fair the bit you quoted doesn't mention special accomodation unless I'm missing something. I don't think it's dishonest to point that detransitioning is AFAIK a fairly minor phenomenon to put it in proper context and perspective.

I don't see the relevance in bringing up the proportion of people affected, outside of of an attempt to 'downplay' the issue because taking additional steps to minimise harm makes things slightly more inconvenient for the larger group.

Like, if the discussion was about preventable deaths in traffic accidents, saying "oh, but only 1% of car crashes at low speeds are fatal" when discussing, say, making seatbelts mandatory is true, but also irrelevant to the underlying issue being what can society do to prevent unnecessary fatalities in traffic accidents when there are steps that can be taken to bring that percentage down to near zero.

When we're talking about elective medical procedures, a rate of 1% of people being harmed by a procedure that was not done under duress in an emergency scenario absolutely should involve a conversation about how to avoid a needless harm, even if that discussion is awfully inconvenient to a particular ideology to have.

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« Reply #21282 on: July 19, 2020, 03:10:05 PM »
I don't think it invalidates the discussion and it's not what I read in that specific quote.
I'll give them the argument that with news stories focusing on this some people might think it's an issue more rampant than it is and actual numbers help get things in the right perspective.

It doesn't make that personal story less valid or real, or that issue off limits.
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« Reply #21283 on: July 19, 2020, 03:15:08 PM »
I don't think it invalidates the discussion and it's not what I read in that specific quote.
I'll give them the argument that with news stories focusing on this some people might think it's an issue more rampant than it is and actual numbers help get things in the right perspective.

It doesn't make that personal story less valid or real, or that issue off limits.

I wouldn't give them that, because it applies equally to trans itself, no one anywhere is calling to put trans issues into perspective due to it only being 0.6% of the population

like "ok CDPR is trying to provide good options for trans representation here, but if it's not 100% perfect let's just keep this in perspective that there really aren't a lot of trans people in the world and most people are going to be satisfied playing a cis male or female"
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21284 on: July 19, 2020, 03:19:51 PM »
I don't think it invalidates the discussion and it's not what I read in that specific quote.
I'll give them the argument that with news stories focusing on this some people might think it's an issue more rampant than it is and actual numbers help get things in the right perspective.

It doesn't make that personal story less valid or real, or that issue off limits.

I mean, obviously that persons story is off limits as the topic got locked due to - what I'm pretty fucking sure is - high volume of reports, and that persons story (and others) obviously is invalid as people in that thread are literally calling her transphobic for the life she has lived, and as you can see on twitter just recounting these peoples stories also gets buried by a slew of accounts screaming transphobia just for retelling someones life experience.

You're right that its an uncharitable read of that persons post that they are pursuing an agenda instead of just neutrally stating an observation, but the fact is that its pretty much only people pushing that agenda who are left on era at this point in time, as they have successfully silenced any challengers to that agenda with moderator complicity.

:idont

VomKriege

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21285 on: July 19, 2020, 04:16:15 PM »
I was just defending (if that) the specific quote. Obviously on the larger point that ERA can't handle it, I can only agree.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21286 on: July 19, 2020, 04:48:43 PM »
I've just always hated this idea of probability being used as a conversation-ender.  It's such a cold way of looking at things and basically tells the minority of people that end up on the side of low chances that they don't matter.  False accusations, detransitioning, whatever.  It's just a repurposed "tyranny of the majority" argument that these people are supposed to be against.

I'd rather they just admit that human collateral damage is acceptable.  It's just platitudes otherwise.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21287 on: July 19, 2020, 05:34:51 PM »
I was just defending (if that) the specific quote. Obviously on the larger point that ERA can't handle it, I can only agree.

sure, questioning an assumption doesn't imply endorsing the antithetical assumption, or an attack - this isn't era. You're absolutely correct there is more than way to interpret what was said.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21288 on: July 19, 2020, 05:42:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-to-ask-why-is-nintendo-allowing-games-like-waifu-uncovered-on-the-switch-eshop.249897/

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For a company that is so careful with maintaining a family-friendly image, it's strange to me that they are allowing stuff like this on their store.

I don't get it at all.

Edit: And to clarify, I'm not looking at it from a "mature content" viewpoint in terms of violence or sexualized characters. Obviously, Switch has games like Borderlands and Xenoblade 2.

Nor am I outraged or asking for it to be taken down. But my surprise comes from the fact that the literal point of the game -- the entire gameplay loop -- is blatant misogyny. That is the game from head to toe.

 :doge




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Thanks OP buying this now
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Won't someone think of the children??
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Yeah, they shouldn't promote games where waifus are this ugly. Shame on Nintendo.
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because a lot of nintendo fans are pedo's
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Hm never heard of this game, is there a demo?
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*complains about Waifu Uncovered*

Meanwhile:

    Doom
    Borderlands
    Skyrim
    Mortal Kombat 11

All are on the Switch, all of which have ridiculous amounts of violence - Doom and MK having the most gruesome level of murder and dismemberment.

You're saying porn is worse than murder, gore, and dismemberment?
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, OP. Will buy :D

:woody
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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21289 on: July 19, 2020, 05:45:49 PM »
You can fit the entire population of the world into Texas with a giant Paris like city.

:dunno

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21290 on: July 19, 2020, 05:49:44 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-to-ask-why-is-nintendo-allowing-games-like-waifu-uncovered-on-the-switch-eshop.249897/page-2#post-39944745
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because a lot of nintendo fans are pedo's
You’re confusing nintendo fans with competitive smash players

Not banned because it's true?  :lol

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God....I am just so fucking disgusted. Show me a similar game that allows you to do this to men and I'll level out, but there is a sickening amount of games like this and for there to be this movement of weirdos who want to fight back against "censorship" just to have games like this just......turns my stomach.

 :social :social2 :gamergate
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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21291 on: July 19, 2020, 05:53:37 PM »
:pika
(ice)

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21292 on: July 19, 2020, 05:57:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-to-ask-why-is-nintendo-allowing-games-like-waifu-uncovered-on-the-switch-eshop.249897/page-3#post-39971028
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*complains about Waifu Uncovered*

Meanwhile:

    Doom
    Borderlands
    Skyrim
    Mortal Kombat 11

All are on the Switch, all of which have ridiculous amounts of violence - Doom and MK having the most gruesome level of murder and dismemberment.

You're saying porn is worse than murder, gore, and dismemberment?
In the USA, yes. Are you old enough to remember Janet Jackson and the Super Bowl performance back in 2004?

They've already forgotten about this year's super bowl?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-333#post-28782644
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You know how everyone likes to laugh (or be disgusted) at Xenoblade 2 character design?  Hope you didn't watch the superbowl half time show, this could almost be DLC for the game.  Everything has to keep getting racier and racier I guess (don't forget the twerk off).   At least she has human proportions I suppose, unlike Xenoblade 2.

I think it certainly doesn't help the situation imo when one of the most watched television shows does something like that.  I'm sure people look at that and use it as a bar in some way as what's acceptable.  But it's not just the superbowl, you see that kind of in a lot of prime time media, especially anything to do with modern concerts.

:marimo
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21293 on: July 19, 2020, 06:02:19 PM »
I mean, obviously that persons story is off limits as the topic got locked due to - what I'm pretty fucking sure is - high volume of reports, and that persons story (and others) obviously is invalid as people in that thread are literally calling her transphobic for the life she has lived, and as you can see on twitter just recounting these peoples stories also gets buried by a slew of accounts screaming transphobia just for retelling someones life experience.
It's a story where a woman literally eliminates a trans person from existence just because she disliked him, that's blatantly transphobic.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21294 on: July 19, 2020, 06:03:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-to-ask-why-is-nintendo-allowing-games-like-waifu-uncovered-on-the-switch-eshop.249897/page-5#post-40002072

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How about we stop trying to police what other people like?
Shoot 'em up games with poorly drawn anime characters are extremely problematic.

 :lol
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« Reply #21295 on: July 19, 2020, 06:04:27 PM »
User banned (duration pending): misogynistic trolling. Previously banned for the same thing.

Need a switch version of Huniepop
Tryna play it in the break room

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21296 on: July 19, 2020, 06:04:39 PM »
You can fit the entire population of the world into Texas with a giant Paris like city.

:dunno

Lets imagine the traffic that a city with a population of 7.8 billion would have

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21297 on: July 19, 2020, 06:32:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-to-ask-why-is-nintendo-allowing-games-like-waifu-uncovered-on-the-switch-eshop.249897/page-5#post-40002072

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How about we stop trying to police what other people like?
Shoot 'em up games with poorly drawn anime characters are extremely problematic.

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I don't give a shit what you are, do not tell me how to interpret things. I told you how I saw the scene, if you saw it differently and choose to see malice behind everything, that's fine.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21298 on: July 19, 2020, 06:32:41 PM »
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Won't someone think of the children??
Actually, this is exactly what I was thinking about.

This one joke was slick enough.  :shh
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #21299 on: July 19, 2020, 06:44:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-where-is-the-body-fat.251280/

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Is gaming the only medium where like 90% or all people never get represented?

At this point, in all games there is essentially just one type of people, gym/fitness people. They might be bulky with muscles but they never have what regular people have, body fat.

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Oh dear Americans.....
.......

Serious, I kinda like plain girl but hate average boys protag in games, Japanese game of course.

Plain girls are charming, plain boys just feel like "prepare to self insert, losers"

 :jgames :itagaki :expert
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