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« Reply #24480 on: August 25, 2020, 05:59:09 PM »
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There are something like 2000 different languages in Africa, which seems like a good albeit broad rule of thumb as to a minimum of unique cultures.

My dude, the point is how can you claim its a uniquely American perspective when most slaves went to countries not being America?

Read a goddamn book.

Brazillians - for example - just consider themselves Brazillians, theres no BDOS movement or whatever :idont

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« Reply #24481 on: August 25, 2020, 06:04:32 PM »
Ah dude I’m not commenting on the underlying politics, just the stupidity of typing ‘I unfollowed trans folk’ on Era. Was that his first day on the site?!

Oh, I know. But I'm still pointing out the irony of unfollowing a transexual person being critical about how Harris (and Bidet) treated transexual people. :doge

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« Reply #24482 on: August 25, 2020, 06:12:26 PM »
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Theres racism in Brazil - of course - but the primary driver of prejudice is class / wealth based.
Do you really not believe the way race is considered in the US is unlike how it is pretty much everywhere else?
The US is a nation of immigrants, and for whatever reason they dragged along whatever backgrounds they had to further differentiate themselves as italian american / irish americans / polish americans / 1/16th Cherokee americans, etc etc etc.

That's not how non-americans think of themselves. Thats not saying racism doesn;t exist elsewhere... its just... different.

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« Reply #24483 on: August 25, 2020, 06:57:38 PM »
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Theres racism in Brazil - of course - but the primary driver of prejudice is class / wealth based.
Do you really not believe the way race is considered in the US is unlike how it is pretty much everywhere else?
The US is a nation of immigrants, and for whatever reason they dragged along whatever backgrounds they had to further differentiate themselves as italian american / irish americans / polish americans / 1/16th Cherokee americans, etc etc etc.

That's not how non-americans think of themselves. Thats not saying racism doesn;t exist elsewhere... its just... different.

In South America its justb openly acknowledged. If a Peruvian starts work in Colombia on his first dsy they will ask "where you from" A major no-no in the usa.  Then they will give them ethnic nickname.

There was a chinese woman running for office in Peru and she was labled chinita, little chinese woman by the media and she ran with it
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« Reply #24484 on: August 25, 2020, 07:15:28 PM »
In South America its justb openly acknowledged. If a Peruvian starts work in Colombia on his first dsy they will ask "where you from" A major no-no in the usa.  Then they will give them ethnic nickname.

There was a chinese woman running for office in Peru and she was labled chinita, little chinese woman by the media and she ran with it

Right, and their grandkids are just going to be "colombian", not think of themselves as "third generation peruvian-Colombian" or whatever, right?

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« Reply #24485 on: August 25, 2020, 07:20:32 PM »
are all these american exports like minimization of toxic masculinity, mangling of language to remove genders, lack of pride in one's own country/culture, and self-loathing just the modern form of colonialism

once again like always, america screams and beats its chest and says NO SOUTH AMERICX YOU CAN'T BE RACIST REEE and the rest of the world sighs and says alright already, we get most of our entertainment media from you guys anyway so I guess you've successfully forced a cultural shift on us again, this time without any troops even

things are going sooo well for your country we obviously want to model our society after yours
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« Reply #24486 on: August 25, 2020, 07:22:21 PM »
In South America its justb openly acknowledged. If a Peruvian starts work in Colombia on his first dsy they will ask "where you from" A major no-no in the usa.  Then they will give them ethnic nickname.

There was a chinese woman running for office in Peru and she was labled chinita, little chinese woman by the media and she ran with it

Right, and their grandkids are just going to be "colombian", not think of themselves as "third generation peruvian-Colombian" or whatever, right?

3rd generation Japanese immigrants in Brazil are still called Chinese my dude
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« Reply #24487 on: August 25, 2020, 07:25:19 PM »
In South America its justb openly acknowledged. If a Peruvian starts work in Colombia on his first dsy they will ask "where you from" A major no-no in the usa.  Then they will give them ethnic nickname.

There was a chinese woman running for office in Peru and she was labled chinita, little chinese woman by the media and she ran with it

Right, and their grandkids are just going to be "colombian", not think of themselves as "third generation peruvian-Colombian" or whatever, right?

3rd generation Japanese immigrants in Brazil are still called Chinese my dude

That's just casual racism, it's not how they self identify, right? They would just think of themselves as Brazillian, and if pressed that they have Japanese grandparents

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« Reply #24488 on: August 25, 2020, 07:28:37 PM »
why are you pressing these poor chinese people just leave them alone
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« Reply #24489 on: August 25, 2020, 09:00:40 PM »
Sage, there is still a lot of racism in Latinoamerica that people here try to deflect saying “is not like from US”. The racism here is mostly passive aggressive and “just joking but not really kind”. While minorities here tend to have a way less US centric view on race there is still a ton of issues that people prefer to ignore or brush off.

While I’m glad there is no the hypersensitive racial panic like in the US, the shitty thing is that actual racism is generally brushed off as a ‘non-problem’. So people here still make cringe racial jokes about a Afro Mexican singer or treat indigenous people as second class citizens.
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« Reply #24490 on: August 25, 2020, 10:35:01 PM »
Let’s be real with ourselves - this company is very careful to maintain a friendly relationship with the alt-right. Implying that American gun culture is not already crazy is doing just that.

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« Reply #24491 on: August 26, 2020, 12:28:18 AM »
CDPR is public enemy #1 for the usual sort there. They are going to shit up every thread about CDPR and/or Cyberpunk 2077 if you let them until the game comes out, proves that all their bitching and whining about how "tone deaf" and "alt-right friendly" it will be was baseless, and they move on to the next target they can launch their usual inquisition at. All while never acknowledging they were wrong. It's the Joker movie all over again for those idiots.

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« Reply #24492 on: August 26, 2020, 02:37:45 AM »
How are CDPR alt-right friendly? Are they assuming so because they’re Polish?  :teehee
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« Reply #24493 on: August 26, 2020, 02:53:06 AM »
How are CDPR alt-right friendly? Are they assuming so because they’re Polish?  :teehee

Their customer base is Gamers :yikes
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« Reply #24494 on: August 26, 2020, 03:39:45 AM »
Surely after so many threads, 2077 should be added to the banned games list right?

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« Reply #24495 on: August 26, 2020, 04:31:59 AM »
A big ‘gaming’ forum banning discussion of the hottest new release of the year would be :delicious

They probably won’t because it’s a big traffic driver to the site :trumps
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« Reply #24496 on: August 26, 2020, 05:31:06 AM »
Sage, there is still a lot of racism in Latinoamerica that people here try to deflect saying “is not like from US”. The racism here is mostly passive aggressive and “just joking but not really kind”. While minorities here tend to have a way less US centric view on race there is still a ton of issues that people prefer to ignore or brush off.

While I’m glad there is no the hypersensitive racial panic like in the US, the shitty thing is that actual racism is generally brushed off as a ‘non-problem’. So people here still make cringe racial jokes about a Afro Mexican singer or treat indigenous people as second class citizens.

That is true.  All asians are called Chinese or chino/chinita.  The casual racism from what I've seen is the casual racist banter you can pull with friends.  As in, "you dumb mick," or, "I thought you were mexican and you call this salsa?" At that level from professional workers it's jokey and funny.  Those casual jokes that are frowned upon in the USA are more broadly accepted world wide.

Yet at the same time the institutional racism is on another level.  There are caste systems, social stratification, and state actioned economic inequality.  In America saying it's not racism it's economic inequality is seen as a racist statement.  Saying "poverty is your fault," is the same.  Sometimes it's heavy handed but it's often true that it stems from a belief that you are better than another person. 

I'm confused now.  Maybe crushing hard on funny, jokey racism between colleagues is a better path to solving social inequality than accepting it.



My final thought, is extreme classism better than casual racism? 
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« Reply #24497 on: August 26, 2020, 05:33:36 AM »
A big ‘gaming’ forum banning discussion of the hottest new release of the year would be :delicious

They probably won’t because it’s a big traffic driver to the site :trumps

It would also require abiding to a moral code. 


But if they don't do it why should we?
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« Reply #24498 on: August 26, 2020, 07:06:35 AM »
Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/who-will-be-remembered-1000-years-from-now.274430/page-3
- Walt Disney: His name is quite possibly forever memorialized in the name of his company, and he really started the big animation boom and his company is everywhere now and likely will be in a 1000 years as well, barring some near world ending disaster/culture shock event that changes our trajectory.

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« Reply #24499 on: August 26, 2020, 07:14:50 AM »
Surely after so many threads, 2077 should be added to the banned games list right?
it's going to be restera's top 'i'm buying used/at discount/with a gift card' product of the year.
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« Reply #24500 on: August 26, 2020, 08:10:29 AM »
Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/who-will-be-remembered-1000-years-from-now.274430/page-3
- Walt Disney: His name is quite possibly forever memorialized in the name of his company, and he really started the big animation boom and his company is everywhere now and likely will be in a 1000 years as well, barring some near world ending disaster/culture shock event that changes our trajectory.

:crowdlaff  :girlaff :mueller :nintendo
I guess their socialist revolution has to wait another 1000 years  :trumps
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« Reply #24501 on: August 26, 2020, 10:48:55 AM »
I agree, don't argue. Just escalate immediately to violence. If anti-maskers really want that smoke, they can take a fist to the grill.

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« Reply #24502 on: August 26, 2020, 10:48:55 AM »
The more Cyberpunk is shown, the less interested I become :/

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« Reply #24503 on: August 26, 2020, 11:06:29 AM »
Wasn't there a study recently that showed that obese patients are less likely to get the needed help from their doctors and if you adjust for that, there isn't a big difference in deaths because of Covid?
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« Reply #24504 on: August 26, 2020, 11:14:51 AM »
isn't the guardian a banned sauce on :reeeee ?
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« Reply #24505 on: August 26, 2020, 11:18:45 AM »
The more Cyberpunk is shown, the less interested I become :/
Yeah, Nintendo makes it much easier to do a Media blackout
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« Reply #24506 on: August 26, 2020, 11:41:09 AM »
ResetEra has invented a new type of ban

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« Reply #24507 on: August 26, 2020, 11:46:24 AM »
:ohhh
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« Reply #24508 on: August 26, 2020, 11:50:31 AM »
b dubs coded it himself just for reset era liartous :karen
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« Reply #24509 on: August 26, 2020, 12:15:36 PM »
They rebooted the Nintendo direct speculation thread a few hours ago and it already has 1700+ posts. I don't understand what there is to talk about

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« Reply #24510 on: August 26, 2020, 12:19:33 PM »
They rebooted the Nintendo direct speculation thread a few hours ago and it already has 1700+ posts. I don't understand what there is to talk about
whining that they don't have any new releases and arguing over so called insiders lol

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« Reply #24511 on: August 26, 2020, 12:43:46 PM »
They rebooted the Nintendo direct speculation thread a few hours ago and it already has 1700+ posts. I don't understand what there is to talk about
whining that they don't have any new releases and arguing over so called insiders lol

I generally don't comment on this stuff just because I feel like it's impossible to not come across as just sour grapes whining that we aren't running the show anymore, but if there's like any one thing I would point to as a criticism of things being worse than how we handled it, it would be when they allowed a 24/7/365 Nintendo Direct speculation thread to not only exist, but exist as not even a buried community thread. It's an absolutely garbage thread premise that feeds on itself to exacerbate the situation. There's this constant ebb and flow in terms of whether the insiders are heroes are villains and their importance and vilification is fueled by this dumbass hype thread that they have let live. People are hyped about getting hyped about getting hyped. There's no actual, productive purpose to this thread other than people had fun once in a leadup to a Direct and now it's a meta thing where people are more into game hype than games themselves.

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« Reply #24512 on: August 26, 2020, 12:50:40 PM »
Nintendo Direct hype is one of the few traffic drivers to the site. Hell, it nearly crashed the site today.

All in the Nintendoverse go to ResetEra for their Nintendo Direct rumor fix and all those 'insiders' show up there to get a virtual blow job  :popular
and then of course complain if people call them out on their bullshit and get protected by the mods.

There's countless YouTube channels doing the same thing. Nintendo Direct is the ultimate click bait tool.
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« Reply #24513 on: August 26, 2020, 12:51:51 PM »
As a normal Nintendo fan, I simply wait for a tweet from Nintendo with a scheduled direct. You know, like any sane person that has a life outside of their Switch console.

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« Reply #24514 on: August 26, 2020, 12:52:10 PM »
Sour grapes of not being abused 24/7 in an unwinnable, unpaid position overseeing a bunch of fellow morans on the Internet.
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« Reply #24515 on: August 26, 2020, 12:55:49 PM »
Nintendo directs are just as shit as State of Play/Playstation Directs, so... :goty2


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« Reply #24517 on: August 26, 2020, 01:03:59 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion.270630/page-28#post-43145298

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« Reply #24518 on: August 26, 2020, 01:06:07 PM »
I think it would've helped if Nintendo had given some sort of pointer of when they would provide updates on their product line-up especially once they started to roll out the third party announcements.
Usually their fans accept the long waits because they have these set moments like E3 where they share information but E3 was a no-show this year.

The flood of Nintendo Direct spam is not exactly helping their third party partners either. I think they will clamp down on these leakers once again, like they did before.
Surely it shouldn't be too hard to figure out who those people are at this point. My LinkedIn still lights up with NoE people everytime something 'genuine' leaks lol.

But if anything COVID-19 has shown how poor these game publishers are at communication.
The movie industry did a far better job in that regard despite Disney and the likes having the same crazy fanbase.
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« Reply #24519 on: August 26, 2020, 01:08:41 PM »
All in the Nintendoverse go to ResetEra for their Nintendo Direct rumor fix and all those 'insiders' show up there to get a virtual blow job  :popular
and then of course complain if people call them out on their bullshit and get protected by the mods.

We routinely banned insiders for getting shit wrong. And it wasn't just out of vindictiveness. It was also just trying to save people from themselves. Like... I don't think all insiders are prima donnas who are out for internet fame. I think these are people who have conversations with industry people and have sometimes shaky and sometimes rock solid info. I think they have trouble contextualizing the reliability of their info because doing so might jeopardize their contact. I think there are people on the internet who are receptive to having any info they can get regardless of its ability to be confirmed. Early stages rumor? Good enough for me!

But the problem is just that when you have people devoted to doing nothing but synthesizing this information into the "Current Rumor Bible" you've created a monster. It's no longer just "somebody heard from their uncle that there might be a new F-Zero game. That would be neat wouldn't it?" It becomes "so if you combine what Insider A said with what Insider B said, we now know to expect these titles to be announced. Couple that with Person C and we are now completely off to the races in not only getting hyped up about an unnaounced Direct, but we also know when it will be, when it will be announced, and what will be in it." This nonsense feeds on itself and now all of a sudden we are constantly on the precipice of wondering whether Nintendo is reviving Space World. All based on nothing.

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« Reply #24520 on: August 26, 2020, 01:10:53 PM »
They rebooted the Nintendo direct speculation thread a few hours ago and it already has 1700+ posts. I don't understand what there is to talk about

without seeing the exact breakdown of posters I do wanna be fair

on a site with a large population, and a thread which is visible on the first page, I don't see anything wrong if 1000 people pop in to make one post on their thoughts and then forget about it, that will get you a high post count for a topic where nothing much can be said

the problem is the 5% of posters who are apeshit and post hundreds of times
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« Reply #24521 on: August 26, 2020, 01:16:38 PM »
Leaking is an act of love

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« Reply #24522 on: August 26, 2020, 01:17:38 PM »
As an insider, I don't feel safe on this forum anymore now.
Thanks for nothing guys.  :maf
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« Reply #24523 on: August 26, 2020, 01:22:31 PM »
I don't think all insiders are prima donnas who are out for internet fame.

I mean there's different levels to it.. but I'd say 99 times out of 100 there's at least an attention seeking aspect to it, it's only natural.. you share a secret about a hobby and you get a ton of positive attention.  Hard for people to balance that against any consequences, particularly if they aren't an ACTUAL insider (aren't breaking an NDA personally.)

Sure. That's absolutely part of it. I'm just saying I do think some of the drive is just "wow, these people really want knowledge. I have some (dubiously reliable) knowledge. Everyone wins by me sharing what I 'know'." I don't think it's pure vanity, even though it does fuel into it.

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« Reply #24524 on: August 26, 2020, 01:26:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion.270630/page-28#post-43145298

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A big change I;d like is when you get notices of reports you made resulting in actioning there should be a clickable link so you can see which post it was... though maybe that's just a me problem because I report a lot and lose track,

Of course it's Excel

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« Reply #24525 on: August 26, 2020, 01:27:32 PM »
I think riotous is a cynic. I would leak the shit out of any information if I had some just for the hell of it, and I certainly don't care about cred.

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« Reply #24526 on: August 26, 2020, 01:28:13 PM »
Also I've been listening some Chapo and looking back on the ERA handwringing about their many thought crimes...
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« Reply #24527 on: August 26, 2020, 01:29:24 PM »
I don't think all insiders are prima donnas who are out for internet fame.

I mean there's different levels to it.. but I'd say 99 times out of 100 there's at least an attention seeking aspect to it, it's only natural.. you share a secret about a hobby and you get a ton of positive attention.  Hard for people to balance that against any consequences, particularly if they aren't an ACTUAL insider (aren't breaking an NDA personally.)

Sure. That's absolutely part of it. I'm just saying I do think some of the drive is just "wow, these people really want knowledge. I have some (dubiously reliable) knowledge. Everyone wins by me sharing what I 'know'." I don't think it's pure vanity, even though it does fuel into it.

Back when I was still in this game, there was a group of insiders you were part of. They consisted of people with reliable contacts and good information. You'd cross reference and discuss your findings with other people that knew things.
The danger of that was of course that people tried to get in this group by making shit up. Because once you got in you could easily say: "Oh yeah, I got that too" and seem totally legit. But this sword was double edged because some of us also had to routinely make up nonsense (although obvious nonsense) to keep our sources protected. From what I remember though, this shit wasn't as cryptic. If something leaked it would be quite specific. Like SEGA is doing a Sonic racing game or whatever. We weren't dumping some random numbers and letters that people had to piece together to stir up the hype.

The big change was Surfergirl I think and later the likes of Emily Rogers.
A new generation of leaker persona's and of course Twitter, which made it much easier for this to flow beyond page 32 in a media create sales thread on NeoGAF.
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« Reply #24528 on: August 26, 2020, 01:30:15 PM »
Play it tactical.
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« Reply #24529 on: August 26, 2020, 01:58:37 PM »
That's a good point. ResetEra cultivates this toxic culture with bullshit like claiming official threads and gatekeepers for every community and imposing a hierarchy based on how many posts someone has made.
They've chased off and scared way the actual developers, journalists and other industry people and are left with crazies with no industry connections.   
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« Reply #24530 on: August 26, 2020, 02:27:10 PM »
I guess I just see it as making conversation, only it's even more interesting than a regular conversation, because it involves information not meant for distribution.

Not that I follow gaming side or resetera/NeoGaf leaker-culture at all, I admit I am way outta my depth on any epecifics, but it's hard to say that most people do it for positive attention, because the positive attention comes regardless. If you leak big, there's always gonna be people trying to lionize you even if you're just trying to benevolently spread some information you know people want because you'd hope other people would do the same

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fucking riotous turning me into someone who looks at human behaviour with optimism. What happened to me

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I guess piracy brings out my sentimental side

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« Reply #24531 on: August 26, 2020, 02:30:27 PM »
resetera has probably done more to hurt the left than cth

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« Reply #24532 on: August 26, 2020, 02:34:53 PM »
I think riotous is a cynic. I would leak the shit out of any information if I had some just for the hell of it, and I certainly don't care about cred.

"i would totally risk my entire career by leaking shit i'm not supposed to leak - just for the hell of it", says the guy without a job


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« Reply #24533 on: August 26, 2020, 02:40:54 PM »
resetera has probably done more to hurt the left than cth
Given that everyone knows 93% of Catastrophic Testicular Haemorrhages occur in the right bollock, I don’t really know how to take your post.

Edit: also, CTH really isn’t suitable subject matter for a joke. It can be harrowing, I’ve been told.

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« Reply #24534 on: August 26, 2020, 02:48:49 PM »
I think riotous is a cynic. I would leak the shit out of any information if I had some just for the hell of it, and I certainly don't care about cred.

"i would totally risk my entire career by leaking shit i'm not supposed to leak - just for the hell of it", says the guy without a job

I used to steal shit from my old work all the time for the hell of it, if that helps.

And I have a job, it's just not a "job" job

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« Reply #24535 on: August 26, 2020, 03:07:17 PM »
You are just really hung up on the idea of people seeking positive attention.. being some negative thing.   You are in general incredibly hung up on that I've noticed.

I'll cop to that. I don't think attention-seeking behaviour is healthy, especially if the motive is "love me so I matter". Anyone who is looking for validation through other people runs the risk of a misspent life. It's like that Jim Carey quote: "I think everybody should get rich and famous and do everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that it's not the answer."


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« Reply #24536 on: August 26, 2020, 03:12:14 PM »
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I don't think attention-seeking behaviour is healthy, especially if the motive is "love me so I matter".

Isn't that the core to stand-up comedy? Where you put yourself out there emotionally (and physically) in a effort to get people to validate you? Especially modern comedy, where there is more credence given to those that put themselves out there more. The riskier you are, the better received you can become.

 

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« Reply #24537 on: August 26, 2020, 03:13:08 PM »
I don't think all insiders are prima donnas who are out for internet fame.

I mean there's different levels to it.. but I'd say 99 times out of 100 there's at least an attention seeking aspect to it, it's only natural.. you share a secret about a hobby and you get a ton of positive attention.  Hard for people to balance that against any consequences, particularly if they aren't an ACTUAL insider (aren't breaking an NDA personally.)

Sure. That's absolutely part of it. I'm just saying I do think some of the drive is just "wow, these people really want knowledge. I have some (dubiously reliable) knowledge. Everyone wins by me sharing what I 'know'." I don't think it's pure vanity, even though it does fuel into it.

The ones that aren't in it for pure vanity are the ones that don't leak stuff.

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« Reply #24538 on: August 26, 2020, 04:08:44 PM »
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I don't think attention-seeking behaviour is healthy, especially if the motive is "love me so I matter".

Isn't that the core to stand-up comedy? Where you put yourself out there emotionally (and physically) in a effort to get people to validate you? Especially modern comedy, where there is more credence given to those that put themselves out there more. The riskier you are, the better received you can become.

Putting yourself out there emotionally? Maybe modern comedy I guess.

In standup you chase laughter from the crowd, but only because that's the point. You can play music without a live audience or applause, but in standup you're playing the audience.

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« Reply #24539 on: August 26, 2020, 04:32:42 PM »
I think riotous is a cynic. I would leak the shit out of any information if I had some just for the hell of it, and I certainly don't care about cred.

"i would totally risk my entire career by leaking shit i'm not supposed to leak - just for the hell of it", says the guy without a job

I used to steal shit from my old work all the time for the hell of it, if that helps.

And I have a job, it's just not a "job" job

let's just say that i don't believe that if you got a job in comedy you'd leak the scripts to the show in advance just for the hell of it