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SmokyDave

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25800 on: September 16, 2020, 05:20:33 AM »
Quote from: KujoJosuke
https://youtu.be/tsOQE8BdWQA

Coco just did another stream with a segment about shaving

This time featuring the sentence "my minora...is burnt"

This kinda shit is exactly the kind of shit otaku need to hear, like women dealing with shit with their bodies that is painful, and sometimes for the man's benefit
I'm going to suggest that learning anatomy from an animated child might not be a great idea. You'll probably end up asking women if they 'burned their minora' whilst shaving, which makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Majora stupidity.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25801 on: September 16, 2020, 06:57:00 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/soviet-nostalgia-why-dont-we-ever-hear-about-the-positives-of-soviet-life.287423/

 :putin

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atrocities committed by the Soviet Union. Labor camps. Executions. Stalin's shite farming policies. Stalin's intentional starvation of certain areas. The brutal suppression of the Czeczlokian Revolution (Prague Spring).

 :comeon

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25802 on: September 16, 2020, 07:04:17 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nearly-two-thirds-of-us-adults-unaware-6m-jews-killed-in-the-holocaust.287465/

era: wtf? how can people not know that nazi germany was a bad place?
also era: damn, life under stalin sounds like it was pretty sweet

Nintex

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25803 on: September 16, 2020, 07:07:17 AM »
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My wife and I come from two parent families with multiple siblings and we're totally alone because of this. It sucks.

Had it not been for my time on GAF in the early 2010s, I might have been right with them.
 

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/trumpism-is-ruining-my-family-more-and-more.287315/
So for every ResetEra vote there is already a Trump vote that cancels them out and saying everyone was a Nazi for 4 years didn't work to persuade those Trump voters :ohhh
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VomKriege

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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25805 on: September 16, 2020, 07:21:04 AM »


GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25807 on: September 16, 2020, 07:29:07 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/even-though-a-lot-of-us-have-fond-memories-of-it-we-need-to-purge-era-of-the-old-place.287540/

More memory-holing ! :mods

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The community made the memes, the website didn't make the memes. The memes are not tainted. New memes will appear and take on just as the old memes did; you can't 'make new memes', because memes are organic.

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny day now, just waiting for the right thread to bring the funny

BIONIC

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25808 on: September 16, 2020, 07:37:02 AM »
Guys, remember the Dreamcast browser porn?

Remember guys?

Guys?
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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25809 on: September 16, 2020, 07:42:14 AM »
note that I'm not endorsing most of the gaf memes as actually being funny $30 italian meal dot jaypeg

SmokyDave

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25810 on: September 16, 2020, 08:04:29 AM »
There are plenty of Era memes, it's just that none of them are complimentary.

Guys, remember the Dreamcast browser porn?

Remember guys?

Guys?
I remember filling my VMU with pictures of Amber Micheal's tits and then spraying them all over in JSR. Not spraying all over them, sadly.

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25811 on: September 16, 2020, 09:09:07 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/soviet-nostalgia-why-dont-we-ever-hear-about-the-positives-of-soviet-life.287423/

 :putin

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atrocities committed by the Soviet Union. Labor camps. Executions. Stalin's shite farming policies. Stalin's intentional starvation of certain areas. The brutal suppression of the Czeczlokian Revolution (Prague Spring).

 :comeon

C) The Soviet Union is dead, so no harm propping up a dead regime

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VomKriege

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25812 on: September 16, 2020, 09:11:56 AM »
There are plenty of Era memes, it's just that none of them are complimentary.

Case in point :

This thread is an embarrassment. Jesus fucking christ.
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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25813 on: September 16, 2020, 09:25:08 AM »
this is why memes are leaving in droves

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25814 on: September 16, 2020, 09:25:39 AM »
READ STAFFPOST

tiesto

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25815 on: September 16, 2020, 09:38:05 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/soviet-nostalgia-why-dont-we-ever-hear-about-the-positives-of-soviet-life.287423/

 :putin

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atrocities committed by the Soviet Union. Labor camps. Executions. Stalin's shite farming policies. Stalin's intentional starvation of certain areas. The brutal suppression of the Czeczlokian Revolution (Prague Spring).

 :comeon

Well, at least that thread led me to this:
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25816 on: September 16, 2020, 09:42:54 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/soviet-nostalgia-why-dont-we-ever-hear-about-the-positives-of-soviet-life.287423/

 :putin

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atrocities committed by the Soviet Union. Labor camps. Executions. Stalin's shite farming policies. Stalin's intentional starvation of certain areas. The brutal suppression of the Czeczlokian Revolution (Prague Spring).

 :comeon

C) The Soviet Union is dead, so no harm propping up a dead regime

 :brain

Even though a lot of us have fond memories of it, we need to purge Russia of the old place.
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tiesto

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25818 on: September 16, 2020, 10:17:44 AM »
Finished the first two chapters of Matt Yglesias' One Billion Americans while running a series of long errands today. The frame for it is really nice-how do you do American hegemony (which our elected officials more or less all support, and is separate from exceptionalism) in a way that's ethical and moral.

It's certainly a weird radical centrist sort of take, but between a far right trapped by their nativism and a far left trapped by their isolationism, it nice to see different thoughts from afield.

I recall that guy posted here a LONG time ago... I think I bought some games off him a while back.
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Kraftwerk

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25819 on: September 16, 2020, 10:30:02 AM »
Who owns era btw? Like, with Gaf you had Tyler rake in that ad money and he would show off his loft/condo a lot and go on vacations and shit. Who is getting all the ad money on era?

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25820 on: September 16, 2020, 11:05:45 AM »
Who owns era btw? Like, with Gaf you had Tyler rake in that ad money and he would show off his loft/condo a lot and go on vacations and shit. Who is getting all the ad money on era?

AFAIK cerium, zhugex, emily rogers and shinobi all chipped in a few bucks to get their godaddy registration or whatever, then as it became increasingly clear what era was, they all cashed out leaving cerium as sole proprietor, and he peaced the fuck out of actually being a member, so is just an absentee landlord for as long as it stays afloat.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25821 on: September 16, 2020, 11:10:30 AM »
Who owns era btw? Like, with Gaf you had Tyler rake in that ad money and he would show off his loft/condo a lot and go on vacations and shit. Who is getting all the ad money on era?

cerium is going to be he one holding the bag when the trial comes for housing all those creeps

Don Rumata

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25822 on: September 16, 2020, 12:13:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/soviet-nostalgia-why-dont-we-ever-hear-about-the-positives-of-soviet-life.287423/

 :putin

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atrocities committed by the Soviet Union. Labor camps. Executions. Stalin's shite farming policies. Stalin's intentional starvation of certain areas. The brutal suppression of the Czeczlokian Revolution (Prague Spring).

 :comeon
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Art and Culture was fully supported by the State.
How can you type shit like this with a straight face?  :lol
Although given RE's general opinion on censorship, it probably makes complete sense in their view.

Clockwork5

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25823 on: September 16, 2020, 01:15:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-national-guard-twitch-streamer-said-6-million-wasnt-enough-on-stream.287669/

NOT A CANCEL THREAD

Military streamer gets baited into reading a cryptically antisemetic username.

Vice.com: sharpens claws.

The thread is full of this hot take.
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The odds him of not knowing while simultaneously being racist to so many other folks is minuscule.

Actually, the odds are about 2 out of 3.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nearly-two-thirds-of-us-adults-unaware-6m-jews-killed-in-the-holocaust.287465/
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Dude actually sounds like a piece of shit
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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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« Reply #25824 on: September 16, 2020, 05:01:33 PM »
Amongst a thread of people who definitely made up their own minds based on the evidence and aren't just repeating dogma, yet are all unable to respond to the question "what exactly did JKR do?" with anything beyond a "It is known, use google";

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Fucking vile. This is an IP that gives influence to someone who is directly causing suicide attempts and self harm in trans children. Who is actively leading a charge for legislation to remove trans rights for women in the UK.
Link to anything about the suicide attempts and self harm? That sounds absolutely terrifying.
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As part of that email, we have disclosed something we hoped never to say. We say it now with permission from those involved. Without giving personal detail, without betraying confidences, we must represent the seriousness of the situation. We are aware through our work with families that there have been cases of self-harm and even attempted suicide following J.K.Rowling’s statements and the public response on social media and in the press. Surely this must cause us all to pause and question the way young trans lives are being debated in public.
(emphasis theirs)

https://mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/a-call-to-j-k-rowling/


:dunno

Quote from: Their own fucking mermaids link
We do not believe J.K. Rowling ‘hates’ trans people. We also welcome and accept that she is sympathetic towards trans children and teenagers.

                  Is mermaids transphobic propaganda?
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:isthis

VomKriege

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25825 on: September 16, 2020, 05:20:47 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/spotify-ceo-defends-keeping-transphobic-joe-rogan-podcasts-online.287822/

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If Spotify doesn't want to deplatform Rogan perhaps they should suggest guests that counter transphobic and alt-right viewpoints. Someone that can actually explain trans-athletics and BLM and things like that.

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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25826 on: September 16, 2020, 05:39:55 PM »
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"In the case of Joe Rogan, a total of 10 meetings have been held with various groups and individuals to hear their respective concerns," Ek said, according to three sources. "And some of them want Rogan removed because of things he's said in the past."

so Era then

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"Others have concerns specifically over a recent episode," Ek said. "And Joe Rogan and the episode in question have been reviewed extensively. The fact that we aren't changing our position doesn't mean we aren't listening. It just means we made a different judgment call."
Might as well not waste everyone's time then

so Era then

Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25827 on: September 16, 2020, 05:43:01 PM »
Why would spotify deplatform somone they’ve just paid a hunna milli to :doge
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25828 on: September 16, 2020, 05:48:21 PM »
Why would spotify deplatform somone they’ve just paid a hunna milli to :doge

Cause it's a "bad look"

VomKriege

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« Reply #25829 on: September 16, 2020, 05:58:22 PM »
Fuck capitalism ! But billion valued corporations should have even more editorial input on artists, creators and producers.
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VomKriege

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« Reply #25830 on: September 16, 2020, 06:03:20 PM »
But only the good kind, not Netflix pulling that episode of Community or Nintendo filtering "ACAB".
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25831 on: September 16, 2020, 06:58:49 PM »
Quote from: Their own fucking mermaids link
We do not believe J.K. Rowling ‘hates’ trans people. We also welcome and accept that she is sympathetic towards trans children and teenagers.

                  Is mermaids transphobic propaganda?
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:isthis
New thread that also makes no mention of that sentence. https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-is-killing-trans-kids-hogwarts-legacy.288092/


It's hilarious to me that anyone on RE would get perma banned for a statement like this, and yet they claim that they offer plenty of room for discussions

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25832 on: September 16, 2020, 07:15:12 PM »
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Thank you OP. Dumping again as to my thoughts around giving this IP a place for people to fawn over it here. Was sent to staff. Will raise it again in the criticism thread but I have zero fucking faith in anything regarding this forum and trans issues moving forward. Fucking nill.

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Rowling is not simply vile, she is actively corrosive toward public policy governing trans lives in the UK (and elsewhere through being cited during discussions around legislation) as well as trans lives directly.

This is not some abstract or indirect hurt. It is direct and it is mounting.

She is as much - if not more when speaking about the UK - a detriment to lives than Joe Rogan or Kaitlyn Bennett. A literal detriment, in that people are having their rights threatened and lives threatened directly by her.

Mermaids speak without ambiguity as to their cases of suicide attempts and self harm in trans children as a direct result of Rowling's output.

Is the aim of deplatforming to attempt to curb real danger through limiting influence, or is it in fostering discussion in individual spaces? I'd argue the former takes priority over the latter and we sit within a large and reputable gaming space, one that is capable of some degree of influence. We are actually in a position to do what we can in our small corner, and we aren't because we wish for people to have a space to discuss her work.

Which I understand - to be clear. It's a legitimate thought and it makes sense as presented. It just doesn't hold a candle to the actual discussion for me - when we're talking about someone whose growing influence is directly being weaponised to influence real-world changes for trans women and children in the UK.

To me the priority becomes actually becoming what we claim in these times and heavily rebuke what this has now become. Before perhaps there was a leg for the other avenue, but it was long before charities citing her as the cause for suicide in children, people actively taking her prompts and using them to push to deny bathroom access to women, and members of government citing her in attempting to do the same or similar/worse.

There should be a distinct gaming side thread to educate. Threads about how vile she is should continue. Allowing in any form the ability to fawn over her work/IP is a genuinely disgusting thought to me as someone trans in the UK and at a time that this is occurring around us with it only seeing set to increase in severity and passion.

To note too - I was a large Harry Potter fan. I had the first editions, I went outside bookstores on release, my ex and I had a Gryffindor themed anniversary. I just fundamentally understand the difference in need to discuss the work of a bigot relative to deplatforming someone from having their work promoted and raised at a time when they're actively causing real, physical harm to trans lives in this country.

benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25833 on: September 16, 2020, 07:18:43 PM »
Mermaids is a interesting organization that has at times said they want all kids on puberty blockers by default, want trans kids to have access to gender confirmation surgery and other extreme positions. I'm not sure they "speak without ambiguity" regarding anything they can fundraise off of.

benjipwns

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« Reply #25834 on: September 16, 2020, 07:22:59 PM »
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To note too - I was a large Harry Potter fan. I had the first editions, I went outside bookstores on release, my ex and I had a Gryffindor themed anniversary.
Of course.

clothedmacuser

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25835 on: September 16, 2020, 07:29:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-announced-avalanche-coming-2021-up-coming-to-ps4-ps5-pc-and-xbox-family.287813/post-45616913

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That was an interesting TIMING to announce this ...

Real strange of them to announce the game in a gaming promotion event.  What do you really want to say Sony?  Hmmmmm?
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Every fucking page if it needs it.
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25836 on: September 16, 2020, 07:36:39 PM »
Cyberpunk just became old news

benjipwns

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« Reply #25837 on: September 16, 2020, 07:42:32 PM »
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I wouldn’t buy the game used. Hell, I won’t even borrow it from someone. Screw Rowling.
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I am not buying the Mein Kampf: teen edition, no matter how cool the concept is or my childhood
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It should have been clear by the entire fucking trans/nb community either moving or being banned from here, but this forum holds zero fucking spine around trans issues.
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Imagine that you are a girl who loves Harry Potter. That you've read the books, seen the movies, love the universe.

And the creator of your favorite thing in the world tells you no, that you are actually a boy.
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Again, it's your choice, but I'm sure the game will sell fine without your support, where as J.K is literally killing children.
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if they were to make a donation to a trans rights org, it would go a long way in my eyes that at least something good is coming out of it. Then again, they are also based in the anti-Lgbt capital of the country, Salt Lake City, so that's not likely.
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I'll either buy used, use Gamefly, or hope it's on GamePass and play it on PC. She won't get a dime from me.
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On that note: the only thing I hadn't decided up to this point was whether or not to donate my harry potter books, or just recycle them. Well, the decision has been made, in light of this news. I don't want to even indirectly contribute to any more suffering, via a situation like the one you described. So into the recycle bin they go. And at least whatever new paper products made out of them won't be garbage, unlike their author.
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We shouldn't wait for an actual suicide for the sake of semantics
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JK Rowling, you better stop ending trans lives, or we are going to summon Bahamut from the Final Fantasy XVI trailer on your @$$!
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Hope we get a similar reminder before Cyberpunk releases too that transphobia is not acceptable.
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There is a direct causal link between her and the death of trans kids
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the devs get paid regardless of whether the game does well or not.
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Sure was a good week for them to announce this.
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Seeing transphobic shit like this is why my best friend never looks at this fucking forum.

Can't say I blame them.
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The devs already got paid. You’re just paying executives and Rowling.
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Cool flex that you don’t care about trans people killing themselves.
Don't be shocked if we found out that in typical Gamer™ fashion this poster actually likes that.
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Where'd our trans posters move to???
Discord or another forum that gives a tangible fuck about trans people.
:whew

Uncle

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25838 on: September 16, 2020, 07:47:32 PM »
the new cyberpunk :rejoice
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VomKriege

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« Reply #25839 on: September 16, 2020, 07:50:07 PM »
I really....REALLY.....don't give a fuck about video games

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Yulwei

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« Reply #25840 on: September 16, 2020, 07:50:20 PM »
 :lol :lol :lol

the dudes in that thread going "day 1." and ignoring absolutely any reeing about JK rowling are braver than the troops

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« Reply #25841 on: September 16, 2020, 07:55:11 PM »
I genuinely don't understand how the trans community on era could feel neglected. The place rightfully has zero tolerance for transphobic content or transphobic people.

But wanting to ban the discussion of an IP - like a fucking fictional world - because the person who invented it is a transphobic asshole seems so strange to me.

People aren't excited for the game because they ideologically identify with JK Rowling and her opinions on trans folk. They're excited because they read Harry Potter when they were 10.

VomKriege

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« Reply #25842 on: September 16, 2020, 07:57:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/should-era-stop-threads-on-the-hogwarts-game-being-made.288107/

Quote from: Kyuuji
Please don't with such a half baked thread and with a poll.

You don't even mention her direct result in suicide attempts and self harm in trans children. You don't even cite any my post.

Isn't some chucklefuck jolly moment for me/us to have people that have no fucking interest in us weigh into.

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While we sometimes do de-platform personalities/creators, we don't allow metacommentary threads on the specifics.
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Uncle

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25843 on: September 16, 2020, 08:08:00 PM »
I genuinely don't understand how the trans community on era could feel neglected. The place rightfully has zero tolerance for transphobic content or transphobic people.

But wanting to ban the discussion of an IP - like a fucking fictional world - because the person who invented it is a transphobic asshole seems so strange to me.

People aren't excited for the game because they ideologically identify with JK Rowling and her opinions on trans folk. They're excited because they read Harry Potter when they were 10.

and again I think there's room for a little [citation needed]

most of the conversation surrounding rowling seems to be people calling her transphobic while she says no I'm not over and over

she's not exactly out there posting troll tweets every day, if you actually read some of her posts on the subject she goes into great detail about how her heart goes out to these people who are suffering

it's like you agree with her on these 100 points but the 2 controversial standpoints she keeps defending have people dismissing everything else

in an ideal world you could hash this out respectfully and shake hands at the end and go on with your day, disagreeing but ultimately enriched by the conversation


just remember, everyone who disagrees with you is out to insidiously waste your time and take you around in circles while they smugly laugh
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25844 on: September 16, 2020, 08:12:37 PM »
I don't know what they want. Do they just want people to virtue signal, saying "fuck JKR" and "Fuck TERFs"? Do they want people to say they won't buy the game when there's no way to know if that person kept their word?

Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25845 on: September 16, 2020, 08:14:42 PM »
I really....REALLY.....don't give a fuck about video games

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I mean, to me it's not a nuanced question at all because I try to consistently prioritize minorities over my media consumption habits

You have an avatar from an Activision-Blizzard game!

Did everyone literally forget about the Hong Kong issue? 

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25846 on: September 16, 2020, 08:16:05 PM »
I genuinely don't understand how the trans community on era could feel neglected. The place rightfully has zero tolerance for transphobic content or transphobic people.

But wanting to ban the discussion of an IP - like a fucking fictional world - because the person who invented it is a transphobic asshole seems so strange to me.

People aren't excited for the game because they ideologically identify with JK Rowling and her opinions on trans folk. They're excited because they read Harry Potter when they were 10.

And nobody is saying, "I support her bigoted views."  They are saying, "wow, this game that used her IP looks amazing.  I can't wait to play as harry Pottsworth and imagine living in that big castle."  It's not like going to a Ted Nugent concert.  It's more like reading those Cthulhu stories they all pretend to love. 
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25847 on: September 16, 2020, 08:18:10 PM »
I don't know what they want. Do they just want people to virtue signal, saying "fuck JKR" and "Fuck TERFs"? Do they want people to say they won't buy the game when there's no way to know if that person kept their word?
Yes, and bans for anyone who doesn't.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25848 on: September 16, 2020, 08:19:42 PM »
I mean, one of the reasons they jumped down JK Rowling's throat was because of this controversial tweet:

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1269382518362509313

Trying to gaslight others into believing "alternative facts" and then proceeding to label them a bad word [transphobic in this case] if they don't..  that's very trumpian imo :doge

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25849 on: September 16, 2020, 08:22:34 PM »
I genuinely don't understand how the trans community on era could feel neglected. The place rightfully has zero tolerance for transphobic content or transphobic people.

But wanting to ban the discussion of an IP - like a fucking fictional world - because the person who invented it is a transphobic asshole seems so strange to me.

People aren't excited for the game because they ideologically identify with JK Rowling and her opinions on trans folk. They're excited because they read Harry Potter when they were 10.

and again I think there's room for a little [citation needed]

most of the conversation surrounding rowling seems to be people calling her transphobic while she says no I'm not over and over

she's not exactly out there posting troll tweets every day, if you actually read some of her posts on the subject she goes into great detail about how her heart goes out to these people who are suffering

it's like you agree with her on these 100 points but the 2 controversial standpoints she keeps defending have people dismissing everything else

in an ideal world you could hash this out respectfully and shake hands at the end and go on with your day, disagreeing but ultimately enriched by the conversation


just remember, everyone who disagrees with you is out to insidiously waste your time and take you around in circles while they smugly laugh

Yeah fair point. I haven't followed the terf stuff closely but it appears like she has some weird views on gender/sex that are problematic in 2020 but don't necessarily equate to "I hate trans people".

That makes it even weirder.

Like if someone created a thread talking about Chinatown people would chime in about Polanski but nobody would be suggesting that any talk of the film should be banned from the damn site or that people who think it's a good movie hate rape victims.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25850 on: September 16, 2020, 08:25:03 PM »
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There are an awful lot of "Day 1!!!!!!" Drive bys all of sudden from accounts with relatively low post counts...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-announced-avalanche-coming-2021-up-coming-to-ps4-ps5-pc-and-xbox-family.287813/post-45629162
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25851 on: September 16, 2020, 08:26:42 PM »
I really....REALLY.....don't give a fuck about video games

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I mean, to me it's not a nuanced question at all because I try to consistently prioritize minorities over my media consumption habits

You have an avatar from an Activision-Blizzard game!

Did everyone literally forget about the Hong Kong issue?

supporting hong kong is a dog whistle for hating china which is a dog whistle for supporting trump
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25852 on: September 16, 2020, 08:30:36 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-announced-avalanche-coming-2021-up-coming-to-ps4-ps5-pc-and-xbox-family.287813/post-45617024
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They already got paid. Don't worry about them.

Jesus, wtf is up with this dev worship bullshit around here? I swear its like some bizarro version of cop/troop worship. They get paid a wage, they're fine. They're just people going to an office and doing a job. They aren't going to see a dime of the actual sales, that goes to the C-levels and stock holders.

Miserly Dev Rhetoric? 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-announced-avalanche-coming-2021-up-coming-to-ps4-ps5-pc-and-xbox-family.287813/post-45629960
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Just seen too many devs being laid off because of games not meeting sales target, some of them after months of crunch, some of them without paid overtime, and some with health issues that are not helped by losing their jobs.

No need for hostility, people are concerned about the well-being of others. You can engage in discussions in better ways.

Reported.  The Devs knew what they were doing when given a chance to work on HP
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25853 on: September 16, 2020, 08:31:36 PM »
I've never read a Harry potter book. I've not seen any of the movies.
am I an ally?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25854 on: September 16, 2020, 08:33:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-announced-avalanche-coming-2021-up-coming-to-ps4-ps5-pc-and-xbox-family.287813/post-45616913

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That was an interesting TIMING to announce this ...

Real strange of them to announce the game in a gaming promotion event.  What do you really want to say Sony?  Hmmmmm?
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Every fucking page if it needs it.

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kyuji really is copy pasting it in every page  :neogaf

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25855 on: September 16, 2020, 08:37:28 PM »
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Warner should just buy her out and kick her to the curb. I wonder if there is a way for them to sue her for intentionally sabotaging a brand that she leases to them.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25856 on: September 16, 2020, 08:40:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-announced-avalanche-coming-2021-up-coming-to-ps4-ps5-pc-and-xbox-family.287813/post-45616913

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That was an interesting TIMING to announce this ...

Real strange of them to announce the game in a gaming promotion event.  What do you really want to say Sony?  Hmmmmm?
 :brain

second go

Yeah, they should have really waited till after Rosh Hashanah weekend.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25857 on: September 16, 2020, 08:41:47 PM »
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It is very hard to separate this body of work from the creator of the universe. It’s almost very similar to Richard Wagner and his compositions and work. He wrote the popular Ride of Valkyries but was also a Nazi
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Died 13 February 1883
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25858 on: September 16, 2020, 08:46:43 PM »
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It is very hard to separate this body of work from the creator of the universe. It’s almost very similar to Richard Wagner and his compositions and work. He wrote the popular Ride of Valkyries but was also a Nazi
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Died 13 February 1883
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He had a deal with Spotify.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #25859 on: September 16, 2020, 08:48:18 PM »
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It is very hard to separate this body of work from the creator of the universe. It’s almost very similar to Richard Wagner and his compositions and work. He wrote the popular Ride of Valkyries but was also a Nazi
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Died 13 February 1883
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Das Judenthum in der Musik :ufup

He wasn’t a Nazi since nazis weren’t around then but like most Germans in the 1800’s he was a virulent antisemite