Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Propagandhim]

I don't know, man.  I don't know.

[Nintex]

The amount of triggering in this thread is 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dusk-golem-%E2%80%9C-ps5-version-of-re8-is-struggling-and-causing-issues-with-development.288575/

Dusk Golem seems to be full of shit though.

Resident Evil 8 was fully playable a year ago(?) but now they've got these big issues because one console?
Capcom and Sony are pretty close, they would just help them sort it out or Capcom would just release and patch later.

None of it makes any sense as it started out as a cross gen game to begin with.

Can't imagine what the sales thread of the Harry Potter game will be like on ERA when (not if) the game sells millions.

They will have to make it through the release of Cyberpunk 2077 and the E L E C T I O N first 

[Propagandhim]

You not low = you ain't slick


imo

Ah, yeah found it on urban dictionary.  Still, the rest of his post.   

[HaughtyFrank]

You high = You high

 

[thisismyusername]

They've forgotten about CDPR

These transphobes sure do like to hide behind initials. I wonder what B-Dubs is hiding. Does the B stand for BIGOT??

No it stands for Bmarrec.

[Switters]

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Hahahaha. Buh et's Feythers...

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-most-watched-game-trailer-of-yesterdays-ps5-event-crosses-4-75million-views-in-21h.288824/

 

Edit: They locked it 

[Rman]

Can't they understand that people just wanna play video games and that's it? Not everything is a conspiracy. 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

We do not believe J.K. Rowling ‘hates’ trans people. We also welcome and accept that she is sympathetic towards trans children and teenagers.

                  Is mermaids transphobic propaganda?
                     /

New thread that also makes no mention of that sentence. https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-is-killing-trans-kids-hogwarts-legacy.288092/


It's hilarious to me that anyone on RE would get perma banned for a statement like this, and yet they claim that they offer plenty of room for discussions

Its shocking (okay, not shocking) how they can't even parse what that statement actually fucking says.

It's not that JKR has said anything that is inherently bad - its that it has brought the discussion into the public consciousness, as she is a prominent figure, and the - yes, BOTH SIDES DIPSHITS - absolutely fucking toxic vitriol that comes from that discussion is causing distress to people.

Like, if you are a teenage harry potter fan who is wondering if you are trans, and don't see anything wrong with something JKR has said, then you suddenly have the fucking Twitter Hordes screaming "Kill yourself FUCKING TERF", what are you being told by the people who supposedly are there to help you?
What is that specific message?

Kyuuji is doing more to cause self harm and suicidal tendencies in vulnerable youths than fucking JKR is.

[Snoopycat_]

We’ve actioned posts like this today, but if you see them, report them. Hell, pm me if you want and I’ll do it myself, it’ll only save me time.

Strange. Haven’t they been repeatedly claiming that all mod actions are done by committee

[Straight Edge]

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So Slayvern was Crazy Buttocks On A Train on NeoGAF.
 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Strange ERA ad

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I blame all my visits to "Gay Cop" searches on xhamster

You don't adblock era?

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-most-watched-game-trailer-of-yesterdays-ps5-event-crosses-4-75million-views-in-21h.288824/

 

Edit: They locked it 

It is no question that this game will be massive. This thread isnt just to highlight this but also I hope WB knows the reach they have in their hands with this product and act responsibly.

IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME

Can't they understand that people just wanna play video games and that's it? Not everything is a conspiracy. 

Being upset is their hobby.  It really makes a lot of sense if you look at it that way- they enjoy being or pretending to be offended.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

He's back!

Can we please stop with the "punishing" game rhetoric?

It's pure nonsense, through and through.

Do you buy every game released in the history of ever?

Going to go with no, because extremely few people would have the financial ability to even do such a thing.

So how do you choose which games you do buy, and which you don't?

And why, whatever reasons those may be, are those considered acceptable for you, but refusing to buy a game because the creator of the IP is a transphobic fuck is suddenly the thing that's unacceptable and "punishes devs"?

Like, this logic is nonsense through and through.

Like, when someone complains about the combat in a game, and says they aren't feeling it and it's not for them, do you then retort "but what about the people responsible for the graphics? Why are you punishing them for something they have nothing to do with?"

Or alternatively, if it's the artstyle a person has a problem with, that they love the combat, story, writing, gameplay, everything else, but hate how the game looks, would you get on their case for punishing the innocent programmers who have nothing to do with the artwork?

And we can do the same thing with pretty much any aspect of game development.

Like, writing. Let's say the writing of a game is pure atrocious. Like, the basic narrative, the worldbuilding, even basic shopkeeper dialogue makes little sense sometimes. But everything else is wonderful. Is it "fair' to punish the work of the innocent developers because the writing team dropped the ball?

You almost NEVER see anything even close to that, because nonetheless people have limited income, and can only buy so many games no matter how many they might love to play if finances were unlimited, but they're not. So there are are a variety of reasons that are considered "acceptable" to not buy a game due to those reasons, even if those "punish" "innocent" developes.

Why should this be any different?

Why is it it almost never considered punishing innocent developers just because you don't like one particular part of a game, whether it be writing, artwork, combat, or whatever, but something, like, having moral objects to the vile rhetoric of the creator of the IP itself is what's suddenly a bridge to far and is of all things what's "punishing innocent developers"?

Just no matter which way you slice it, nonsense through and through that makes no sense if you apply even an iota of thought to it, and I'm sick and tired of it just happening to pop up in threads like this every time and never when someone say complains about say the motion controls of say a game like Skyward Sword on the Wii, "but yeah, but think about all the innocent developers that have nothing to do with that."

You practically never see it.

Instead, it's almost always some case of bigotry where this argument of suddenly caring for the developers pops up.

And I'm just sick and tired of, because even in the cases where it is genuinely intended and heartfelt, it's still nonetheless nonsense and gibberish through and through that makes absolutely no sense.

Because ultimately consumers have limited money. They can't possibly buy every game in existence.

Thus, even if they want to buy a ton more games than they actually do, because of those limited resources, they have to use some sort of factors to determine which ones to play and which ones not to.

Whether that's gameplay, writing, artwork, price, some combination of the above, etc, those are all accepted and are in no way considered "punishing innocent developers" even though they just as easily could by that logic.

So why should refusing to buy a game because the creator of the IP is a bigot be any different, at all? If it's just fine to refuse to buy a game because of the art design, if it's just fine to refuse to buy a game because of the writing, if it's just fine to not buy a game because of the gameplay, and none of that is "punishing innocent developers" why in the world would this be any different?

I am just so sick of that argument.

Especially when in the same breath it makes absolutely NO MENTION OF THE TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTIVELY HARMED BY ROWLING'S WORDS AND RHETORIC EACH AND EVERY DAY. And we're talking REAL, PHYSICAL HARM HERE. Self-harm and suicidal-ideation and even attempts.

But no, we have to hear more about "innocent devs" being punished, which are strangely absent and we have no people suddenly ganing up on someone for say refusing to buy a game because it has a terrible combat system, because that's not fair to the narrative designer or writers, or any such thing.

No, every single time, it's only topics like this, where the "punishment" angle gets brought up.

But it's nonsense through and through and just as valid a reason for not buying a game as any other.
It's just as valid as not having the money period.
It's just as valid as not liking the graphics or art design.
It's just as valid as not liking the writing or narrative design of the game itself.
It's just as valid as not like the basic moment-to-moment gameplay.
It's just as valid as being dissatisfied with basic graphics or control options.
Or any number of any other reasons, which people use to justify not buying games each and every day, without being accused of "punishing developers."

This is no different, at least it shouldn't be.

Alas, every single time there's a controversy like that, suddenly that nonsense argument pops up again, and we have to hear all about it, despite not hearing about it in a single other one of those circumstances.

I wonder why...

Maybe because it was always a nonsense argument, through and through, whether the people using it consciously realized that or not, and either way, I wish we could just retire it, but alas....

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I agree with other posters here that we need to seriously sit down and have a conversation about banning discussion of certain games with problematic aspects or that we know will directly fund problematic people. If that means losing discussion about huge AAA games and franchises on this site, I can live with that. There are a million other places on the internet where people can go to discuss that stuff. If ResetEra wants to truly take a stand against these behaviors and ideals it's going to mean big, painful steps.

While I wholeheartedly agree with the principle, the sad fact is that we'll soon run out of games we can discuss, at least as far as AAA(A) segment is concerned.
We should ban HP over author (and direct beneficiary) transphobia.
We should ban Ubisoft over covering for sexual predators and harassers and misogyny.
We should ban Activision-Blizzard for catering to dictatorship that puts its citizens in death camps.
We should ban THQ for catering to nazis and pedos.

Soon enough we can pack up the gaming side because we'll be able to talk about, idk, some indies maybe.

Do It!

After careful vetting by staff, the only game we are now allowd to talk about is Night In the Woods.
Sorry?
Oh... 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

They've forgotten about CDPR

These transphobes sure do like to hide behind initials. I wonder what B-Dubs is hiding. Does the B stand for BIGOT??

I thought it stood for his motto

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[bork]

I agree with other posters here that we need to seriously sit down and have a conversation about banning discussion of certain games with problematic aspects or that we know will directly fund problematic people. If that means losing discussion about huge AAA games and franchises on this site, I can live with that. There are a million other places on the internet where people can go to discuss that stuff. If ResetEra wants to truly take a stand against these behaviors and ideals it's going to mean big, painful steps.

While I wholeheartedly agree with the principle, the sad fact is that we'll soon run out of games we can discuss, at least as far as AAA(A) segment is concerned.
We should ban HP over author (and direct beneficiary) transphobia.
We should ban Ubisoft over covering for sexual predators and harassers and misogyny.
We should ban Activision-Blizzard for catering to dictatorship that puts its citizens in death camps.
We should ban THQ for catering to nazis and pedos.

Soon enough we can pack up the gaming side because we'll be able to talk about, idk, some indies maybe.

Do It!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-is-killing-trans-kids-hogwarts-legacy.288092/page-11#post-45728264

There are so many fantastic indies coming out all the time, we wouldn't really be missing out tbh

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Jesus fucking christ

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-call-to-eras-developers-and-mods-about-the-think-of-the-poor-devs-argument.288614/

this is the post that will prevent holding office be mocked when his game sales outside of literally giving it away in a humble bundle are non existent

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-most-watched-game-trailer-of-yesterdays-ps5-event-crosses-4-75million-views-in-21h.288824/

 

Edit: They locked it 

Why don't they just take it a step further and just ban the game from ERA? If posting how it is the most watched trailer is out of bounds, how the hell is other, more significant discussions about the game can be allowed operating under that logic? How can the game have an OT if more benign discussions about the game that isn't filled with "Fuck Rowling" or "Fuck TERFs" isn't allowed?

Cerium and all want to have their cake and eat it too. They want the traffic--and ad revenue--that discussion of these big, "problematic" games bring to the site, but they still want to virtue signal that the game is bad, anyone who buys it and enjoys it is bad, and that they are on the "right side" of the issue. So they allow the game to exist on ERA, but only as a dumping ground for meaningless virtue signaling.

[Switters]

Thanks Kyujji, for "having the strength and energy" to crusade on an middling video game message board "that clearly doesn't care about you and your kind" where if anyone gives you whiff of attitude is swiftly banned from existence by the moderators who "don't give a shit about trans issues".

 

[Joe Molotov]

Jesus fucking christ

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-call-to-eras-developers-and-mods-about-the-think-of-the-poor-devs-argument.288614/

Nobody should give a crap about the developers.

Death of the author.

[stufte]

lol fuck Era. That game is gonna sell like hotcakes and there nothing their impotent rage can do about it.

[Joe Molotov]

lol fuck Era. That game is gonna sell like hotcakes and there nothing their impotent rage can do about it.

Shut up, no one gives a shit about devs!

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-most-watched-game-trailer-of-yesterdays-ps5-event-crosses-4-75million-views-in-21h.288824/

 

Edit: They locked it 

Why don't they just take it a step further and just ban the game from ERA? If posting how it is the most watched trailer is out of bounds, how the hell is other, more significant discussions about the game can be allowed operating under that logic? How can the game have an OT if more benign discussions about the game that isn't filled with "Fuck Rowling" or fuck TERFs" isn't allowed?

Cerium and all want to have their cake and eat it too. They want the traffic--and ad revenue--that discussion of these big, "problematic" games bring to the site, but they still want to virtue signal that the game is bad, anyone who buys it and enjoys it is bad, and that they are on the "right side" of the issue. So they allow the game to exist on ERA, but only as a dumping ground for meaningless virtue signaling.

ah, the Patrick Klepek model which has seen huge success with 1UP GameSpy G4 Waypoint Vice Gaming

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rock-blames-the-democrats-for-letting-the-pandemic-reach-america-while-they-were-too-busy-on-impeachment.288752/

cancel culture doesn't exist, but if it did this is the point where people start saying "of course, I never thought he was funny"

[ShutUp]

Era: nobody should give a fuck about the developers

Also Era: fuck crunch in the industry and what it does to developers

That first sales thread when the Hogwarts game tops the charts will be legendary. Assuming the election doesn't end the site first.

[M]

I am buying that trash Harry Potter game just to spite Era. Don't even like Harry Potter.

That thread from that dev is bait for people to get banned. No dev on era is going to argue against that point and everybody knows this. As soon as a dev goes in there and argues against it, they would get dogpiled and banned.

[stufte]

I am buying that trash Harry Potter game just to spite Era. Don't even like Harry Potter.

This is just as dumb as them not buying it because of JKR. Don't go full ERA.

[benjipwns]

This is horrible. I looked up to her as a kid and I'm sure a lot of kids these days do too. To hear the transphobic things she's been saying must be devastating for young trans HP fans. She's using her platform dangerously and irresponsibly and she doesn't care.

She would love transgender women to face danger as a consequence for their "choice". Of course she does not care. Skateboarding downhill is something to be called dangerous and irresponsible. This is premediated murder.

[HaughtyFrank]

This is horrible. I looked up to her as a kid and I'm sure a lot of kids these days do too. To hear the transphobic things she's been saying must be devastating for young trans HP fans. She's using her platform dangerously and irresponsibly and she doesn't care.

She would love transgender women to face danger as a consequence for their "choice". Of course she does not care. Skateboarding downhill is something to be called dangerous and irresponsible. This is premediated murder.

This is premediated murder.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Her...

Her billions of dollars are the direct result of the Harry Potter franchise.

You cannot be this obtuse.

Should you really be an admin here? You seem to berate people more than anyone else here. I just said that her platform was built by Harry Potter.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Should you really be an admin here?

*bites tongue* What I'm questioning if is you should be an user here.

A cynic might say weltall_zero is doubling down since he realised some of the trans crowd were gunning for him after ket-kat, and his ban for being an obnoxious cunt got vanished by a friendly neighborhood moderator

[jorma]

Era: nobody should give a fuck about the developers

Also Era: fuck crunch in the industry and what it does to developers

That first sales thread when the Hogwarts game tops the charts will be legendary. Assuming the election doesn't end the site first.

i dunno, they seem to have forgotten that they're waging an eternal war against CDPR, and their game is out in two months or so

[Uncle]

Should you really be an admin here?

*bites tongue* What I'm questioning if is you should be an user here.

an üser here

[VomKriege]

Remember all the emotional distress and let down to NDevs to see their work on Last of Us 2 being leaked and presented piecemeal in a sub-optimal manner ?

"Won't someone think of the devs" is a pretty dumb line of argument in general IMHO but it's always amazing to see the wind change in real time to suit whatever favorite conclusion is en vogue for the top controversy of the day. For Christ's sake, ERA made a point of policy of banning people for assuming any "laziness" ever in game development (or business decisions in game development) and now we're told "devs feeling" are totally immaterial and a non-sequitur ?

[VomKriege]

I think it would be good for the developers to publicly disowned Rowling and her views. If members of the main cast did it, also can they.

I doubt they can do that and remain employed for long. For all we know some may have left the project early, unsung heroes we'll never know about.

[VomKriege]

I honestly feel a group at resetera should really compile and come up with a group of companies that are beyond nasty, and any OP that is pushing a game from that company should start with a mod warning that this game is being made by or supported by a company that is harmful and destructive to other humans.

Official ResetERA Seal of Quality

[Yulwei]

I look forward to the day JK Rowling gets indicted for first degree murder. 

[Uncle]

I think it would be good for the developers to publicly disowned Rowling and her views. If members of the main cast did it, also can they.

I doubt they can do that and remain employed for long. For all we know some may have left the project early, unsung heroes we'll never know about.

learn about your new development project from WB

exchange sober glances with your coworkers

you all know in your heart of hearts this means producing a game for a terf

quietly whisper to your friend, "I'm going to work on this game for a while, but I'm definitely going to leave the project early"

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-is-a-character-in-cyberpunk-2077-quest-in-nomad-path.288947/page-5#post-45799817

Disappointing, wouldn’t be me were I in the position.

[Don Rumata]

I agree with other posters here that we need to seriously sit down and have a conversation about banning discussion of certain games with problematic aspects or that we know will directly fund problematic people. If that means losing discussion about huge AAA games and franchises on this site, I can live with that. There are a million other places on the internet where people can go to discuss that stuff. If ResetEra wants to truly take a stand against these behaviors and ideals it's going to mean big, painful steps.

While I wholeheartedly agree with the principle, the sad fact is that we'll soon run out of games we can discuss, at least as far as AAA(A) segment is concerned.
We should ban HP over author (and direct beneficiary) transphobia.
We should ban Ubisoft over covering for sexual predators and harassers and misogyny.
We should ban Activision-Blizzard for catering to dictatorship that puts its citizens in death camps.
We should ban THQ for catering to nazis and pedos.

Soon enough we can pack up the gaming side because we'll be able to talk about, idk, some indies maybe.

Do It!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-is-killing-trans-kids-hogwarts-legacy.288092/page-11#post-45728264

There are so many fantastic indies coming out all the time, we wouldn't really be missing out tbh

They actually have a bone to pick with 40% of indie devs, too.

[Don Rumata]

Is arrogant Sony, dare i say... back? 

[VomKriege]

Imagine being a voice actor and you get passed up on gigs for youtubers and games journalists

Think of the VAs ?

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-is-a-character-in-cyberpunk-2077-quest-in-nomad-path.288947/page-5#post-45799817

Disappointing, wouldn’t be me were I in the position.

she should've left the project early 

[VomKriege]

Did you also know that all highly regarded Cyberpunk media was backed and funded by mega corporations?

Wasn't the tabletop game essentially self published ?
 

I don't care enough to look into who published Neuromancer, if they qualified as a "mega corporation" and if commissioning a book and maybe paying an advance mean they "backed and funded" the project from inception.

[Ghoul]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-is-a-character-in-cyberpunk-2077-quest-in-nomad-path.288947/page-5#post-45799817

Disappointing, wouldn’t be me were I in the position.

she should've left the project early 

Oh lord, I hope she isn't a dateable character 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-is-a-character-in-cyberpunk-2077-quest-in-nomad-path.288947/post-45807221

Yikes... I guess ?

[Tektonic]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-is-a-character-in-cyberpunk-2077-quest-in-nomad-path.288947/post-45807221

Yikes... I guess ?

... You trying to insinuate what with this?

so just to keep up, influencer we like, likes pewdiepie is.. ok?.. just so confused...

[Averon]

So they dug up a tweet of hers about Pewdepie from years ago to justify their need to crucify her for daring to appear in CP 2077 and they still claim "cancel culture isn't a thing?" I don't understand how these people think they themselves aren't the same toxic shitheads they constantly whine about

[remy]

This guy better be getting paid for all the effort and hustle he does on era. Dude had all the Sony announcements yesterday ready to go the moment they dropped or even a moment before.



actual marketer doing astroturfing or some random just shilling for brands  ?

considering calling out astroturfing is inexplicably a bannable offense in the reset constitution almost assuredly a marketer.

[benjipwns]

WB knows their investment is taking a nose dive, they better PR their collective asses off.

[Hermit]

WB knows their investment is taking a nose dive, they better PR their collective asses off.

saving this for when the game sells millions

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-is-a-character-in-cyberpunk-2077-quest-in-nomad-path.288947/post-45807221

Yikes... I guess ?

... You trying to insinuate what with this?

so just to keep up, influencer we like, likes pewdiepie is.. ok?.. just so confused...

She doesn't even say that she likes him, just that it's sad that a faceless corporation is now the number one. It's the pettiest shit 

[Momo]

We do not believe J.K. Rowling ‘hates’ trans people. We also welcome and accept that she is sympathetic towards trans children and teenagers.

                  Is mermaids transphobic propaganda?
                     /
 

New thread that also makes no mention of that sentence. https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-is-killing-trans-kids-hogwarts-legacy.288092/


It's hilarious to me that anyone on RE would get perma banned for a statement like this, and yet they claim that they offer plenty of room for discussions

Its shocking (okay, not shocking) how they can't even parse what that statement actually fucking says.

It's not that JKR has said anything that is inherently bad - its that it has brought the discussion into the public consciousness, as she is a prominent figure, and the - yes, BOTH SIDES DIPSHITS - absolutely fucking toxic vitriol that comes from that discussion is causing distress to people.

Like, if you are a teenage harry potter fan who is wondering if you are trans, and don't see anything wrong with something JKR has said, then you suddenly have the fucking Twitter Hordes screaming "Kill yourself FUCKING TERF", what are you being told by the people who supposedly are there to help you?
What is that specific message?

Kyuuji is doing more to cause self harm and suicidal tendencies in vulnerable youths than fucking JKR is.

Just curious, if you had to articulate, the people who have a problem with what JKR has been saying, not just the people saying fuck her, but all the people who explain themselves. What do you think they took issue with, in your own words?


You say she didn’t say anything “bad”. So what did she say?

[benita]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/liz-gillies-from-dynasty-27-marries-husband-47-who-she-met-on-victorious-while-she-was-17.289124/page-2#post-45820022

I guess because Dan Schenider is probably a pedophile, every other man who worked on his shows must ALSO be one, or something.

I mean I don't know. Everyone who reads Harry Potter hates trans people and everyone who goes on Joe Rogan is a nazi so you tell me.

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-is-a-character-in-cyberpunk-2077-quest-in-nomad-path.288947/post-45811283

I reeeeeaally did not need to see this...

 



 

[benjipwns]

I’m sure she’ll recuse herself from covering this game in any way just like every other games media personality who was in a game.

oh wait…

rhetoric associated with a hate movement

[ShutUp]

WB's investment is taking a nose dive as the reveal trailer already has over 4 million views in just a day. WB must literally be shaking in fear right now.

[Uncle]

WB's investment is taking a nose dive as the reveal trailer already has over 4 million views in just a day. WB must literally be shaking in fear right now.

the thing to pay attention to is the like to dislike ratio 

[FUME5]

Jesus fucking christ

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-call-to-eras-developers-and-mods-about-the-think-of-the-poor-devs-argument.288614/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1251670/Divinoids/